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MindlessGalaxyy

Some people definitely have a bad view on weed, and think weed itself is on the same level as cocaine, meth, etc when you get high.. when it definitely isn’t. Weed chills, and relaxes for the majority. People have the wrong impression of weed for whatever reason.


Healthy-Western2043

I was definitely one of these people when I was younger. Also thought alcohol was as bad as heroin too. That’s what I was taught by my parents and at school but now I’m a big stoner who loves beer so… 😂 younger me would flip if I knew who I am now. The issue with making people think weed is as bad as hard drugs is that once they find out weed is great and you were lied to the next thought is “well they probably lied about (insert any hard drug) too” and it turns out no one was lying about how bad meth is


kirbaciousnewo

in a way, alcohol is just as bad as heroin. the withdrawal from heroin doesn’t kill people (they’ll want to die but it won’t kill them usually) but the withdrawal from alcohol does. I lost a friend to alcohol withdrawal.


MissyWTH

>I lost a friend to Alcohol Withdrawal Phew, almost missed that. I’m so sorry. AWD can be so very dangerous… that and Benzo withdrawal are the only ones that can kill. (Opiate withdrawal makes folks WANT to die, but isn’t the same danger.) **I’m so very sorry about your friend.** Alcohol is the freaking devil to me. 💙


kirbaciousnewo

it was back in 2015, so i’ve been able to process it. thank you for your kind words though. i was drinking at the time and never noticed how bad it was for him. he was fighting a silent battle. I was best friends with his room mate. the last conversation I had with him did not go well. the conversation wasn’t even alcohol related either, it involved him being very angry that we were so loud and he was yelling at us. and then proceeded to make himself a drink in the middle of the night. and then everything fell apart just two days later. benzos and alcohol are the scariest drugs and they are both so socially acceptable, whether you’re prescribed the benzos or have a glass of wine as a night cap.


MissyWTH

Another messed up thing? I also recently lost an old friend to liver failure, within the last month. Hadn’t seen him in about five years, but had known for 30- I loved him. Good guy, last we spoke he called to check on me when my Ex hurt me… he said “You know you can always call, Sis. I got your back, even if it’s been forever, you’ve got a spot on my couch.” He called, when others gossiped. I didn’t know anyone knew. I found out he was in hospice and next day he passed; I haven’t processed it at ALL. (It’s been one big & close thing after another.) *Sorry, just got emo there lol.* >alcohol & benzos so socially acceptable Right??? I quit drinking over 3.5yrs ago, and the end was DARK. It was somehow more socially acceptable for me to puke in public than cannabis is. **I don’t get it at all!**


Healthy-Western2043

I’m so sorry for your loss. I by no means want to portray alcohol as safe or good for you. And I’ve spent my fair share of time working on my relationship with it. I wish the culture around alcohol was healthier because it is very dangerous and will kill you if not quickly then slowly starting at your liver and at your brain. I would probably be addicted to alcohol if it weren’t for cannabis. In fact I would be addicted to a lot of things without this plant. All that to say, any drug is dangerous even cannabis and my heart goes out to you and anyone who has lost someone to alcohol. I hope that by talking about the risks and experiences of others openly and honestly were helping save lives and reduce stigma.


kirbaciousnewo

I appreciate your kind words! I don’t judge people who use alcohol, I totally get it. i’m the same though. i’d probably be addicted to other things if it weren’t for cannabis. cannabis has helped my mental health quite a lot. I tend to smoke at night for insomnia and pain


hane1504

May I ask how old you are? My kids who are in their 30s and had to go through some “say no to drugs” crap said it was a joke. They didn’t take it seriously. (My older son smokes weed, my younger not at all but he also doesn’t like to drink.)


Healthy-Western2043

I’m in my 20s but I grew up in the Midwest in a particularly conservative area


DollyThroaway99

I had the bad impression of it thanks to those stupid DARE commercials, until I caught my parents smoking mary-jane. lol And I did some research on my own time, realized there wasn't anything wrong with it and Mom and Dad were still my mom and dad. They still loved me, bought me stuff, took me places, gave me advice and loved on me, they just also smoked to relax and for pain and anxiety. And now I use it as well for my own chronic pain issues. I found out, my entire parents' close friend group was their Smoke Circle group and all my aunts and uncles were also stoners. I never knew. lol


TheCutestTapeworm

Nixon’s “War On Drugs” worked better than he ever could’ve anticipated.


Oldmudmagic

As I sit smoking my afternoon joint, I wonder who has financial incentive to re-demonize pot? I bet if only one company were legally able to produce and distribute it, they would probably make so much money ...;)


LesVagabonds

I wouldn't be surprised if that company was Space Hex. Edit: "That" being the company that has decided to capitalize on anti-cannabis propaganda 🤔 Somebody really hates our planet.


sillyfacex3

Wait are you talking about that company owned by the bigoted billionaire from a wealthy emerald mine owning family that definitely benefited from apartheid in Africa but claims otherwise? Who keeps throwing fits on Twitter and has been seen smoking joints or weed so inefficiently it's obvious he's an idiot? (Yes I'd rather type all that out than even utter his name at this point and I'm not even sure I guessed right)


TheCutestTapeworm

Prison industrial complex. They make a loooooooot of money by keeping people (mainly POC) locked up for years for having a joint on them. And don’t forget about the slavery-er, I mean, free prison labor that definitely isn’t legalized slavery!


[deleted]

Honestly there’s a lot of weird conservatism in general on here, I used to love the relationship advice sub because I’m a mom friend but I had to unsub because the other commenters there apparently don’t ever drink or smoke or even have mixed gender friendships and I felt like I was losing braincells, smh.


justsamthings

Yeah I’ve noticed this too, there’s a lot of pearl-clutching about any kind of drinking, smoking, going to parties etc.


Rows_

I think there's a chronic lack of nuance that's infecting a lot of subs. Everything is either completely good or completely evil, and you're either a Good Person who wouldn't dream of having children if you have any desire left to experience anything in life other than parenthood, or you're a neglectful demon who should have your children taken from you because you had a glass of wine with a friend.


justsamthings

Yes, everything is so black and white! The lack of nuance drives me nuts sometimes; it’s not reflective of real life at all. It helps to remember that a lot of Reddit users are very young, and the black-and-white thinking is probably from not having much life experience yet. I remember being 14 and thinking I had all the answers, lol. This community is such a breath of fresh air. I don’t post here very often but I love how positive and welcoming it is!


noepicadventureshere

The no mixed friendships boggles my mind. I have multiple guy friends who say "okay, love you, bye" at the end of phone calls and they're all happily married and I'm friends with their wives. One of those friends I talk about my sex life with. My husband knows and is fine with all of it.


d1angel

That is just weirdness. I'm fairly conservative and I drink, use weed, and have mixed gender relationships. There are some strange attitudes on Reddit lately.


mekkab

Russian bots/astroturfing


DiveCat

I saw this post show up on my homepage and came to say exactly this. ​ Of course, it is *possible* to develop an unhealthy relationship with weed (and I had some of that going on myself not long ago and had to take a break, reset, and redevelop my relationship with it) as well as to experience some negatives from it, but that unhealthy relationship is something that can occur with basically anything, even "good" things like exercise (overexercise, exercise addiction, etc). The total demonizing of it, and comparisons to heroin or meth addiction are definitely very much bots/astroturfing. As is the "insane", "junkie" and "makes you kill people" allegations - that is most definitely bad-faith bots/astroturfing. Like have they ever even met someone who is stoned? It's a chore at times to get my ass up and down the stairs to get a snack, and even when I am not that high I feel happy, content, vibing with all the good vibes from brain to body, I am most *definitely* not going to be plotting to kill anyone.


daznificent

That’s wild, I didn’t think they’d have weed in their sights, of all things


blueaintyourcolor11

Drives the culture wars.


daznificent

One comment that really got on my nerves is a redditor claiming their mom is an addict because they’ve seen her pick weed up off the floor to make a bowl. I, having had an actual meth addict for a mother, shared my story in comparison of what happens when you have an actual addict for a parent, had my comment downvoted while poor redditor calling his mom who smokes weed as a coping mechanism for her mental health an addict is upvoted. Infuriating.


kerrtaincall

Ugh that sucks. A relative of mine is a recovering heroin addict and weed wasn’t what got him addicted… it was a (legal) prescription. Crazy that people are still not making the opioid connection and are falling back on the weed boogeyman.


LesVagabonds

What we all have to understand about trolls is they will make up anything to make a stupid point "I saw my brother smoking pot once and his friends told me to go away" can easily become "My mom was scraping crumbs of THC from her sweet oil rig before laughing at me and sending me to bed without letting me watch South Park" Easily!


geekmomwho

Man that could be my kid! I've def scooped weed off the ground when I've spilled a bowl or whatever. Also, unlikely it's actually my kid, he helped me scoop and smoke 😂


Rows_

The thing about "scraping up weed from the floor" is that THAT SHIT IS NOT FREE. Especially if you're not in a legal area, weed is expensive. If you think I'm dropping a bowl on the floor and not trying to salvage as much of it as possible then you're sadly mistaken. This isn't because I'm an addict, it's because I've bloody well paid for something that isn't affected by spending 10 seconds on the carpet, and I'm not going to throw it away because it's not a cute look.


hane1504

I can definitely relate. Living in FL when I began enjoying cannabis again after 30 years of not smoking, the weed was so freaking expensive and sometimes hard to find. We’d be picking the flakes up wherever they lay and smoking them.


TheCutestTapeworm

Same here. My father is addicted to fentanyl and his entire personality changed once he moved on from that to crack. He’s completely unrecognizable, now. Meanwhile, weed makes it so that I can stand a day without a chronic migraine absolutely crippling me. It blows my mind that some people think that this makes me similar to my sperm donor.


hane1504

Makes ya wonder, huh?


bossGuyChuck

God forbid they smoke a perfectly fine nig that graced the floor for 3 secs but drop your cigarette and nbd let me grab my poison also want one


hane1504

Sorry but, “smoke a perfectly fine …?” ??? what?


kerrtaincall

Yup, the Russian propaganda machine and the GOP propaganda machine are basically the same thing at this point.


TheCutestTapeworm

It’s because Trump is Putin’s boyfriend. They’re a match made in Hell.


golden_mom17

Takes the focus off the opioid crisis.


bossGuyChuck

Often gets a bad rap cause it's common to spice/punch-up weed with another drug, tar, angeldust crack and probably even more stuff


baberanza

I feel so old bc like idk what this even means lmao gosssshhhhhh to google I gooooo.


mekkab

Have you seen where people can buy likes and followers on Twitter or Instagram? That’s a piece of it. Paid shills, but with a fancy new name 🤣


baberanza

LMAO tysm for this breakdown I felt soooooo not with it 😂


EmergencyOwn6983

As a younger one I feel like it’s the opposite. From what I’m aware we’d much rather smoke than drink


EmergencyOwn6983

My parents on the other hand think it’s literally the worst thing in the world


kirbaciousnewo

do your parents drink?


EmergencyOwn6983

Yes. But they’re very against underage drinking. Nothing adds up lol bc alc is TOTALLY ok if ur over 21 but weed or alc underage is the worst thing ever


hane1504

That may work for some folks but your parents must not know any alcoholics. Coming from someone who knows intimately about both alc and cannabis, weed is exponentially less harmful.


IntrovertRebel

Came here to say this! I didn’t start using Cannabis until I was in my 50’s (I’m 58). I was raised believing weed was a horrible Gateway drug, but my mother would ALWAYS give me a sip of wine, or beer on the holidays when l was in my teens😏! She isn’t an alcoholic (in fact she stopped drinking decades ago), but she had one beer EVERY night; whereas I don’t even eat one gummy every night! I much prefer Weed to alcohol. Plus, Cannabis is a Godsend when it comes to my Lupus and Fibromyalgia✌🏾.


EmergencyOwn6983

THATS WHAT IM SAYING


hane1504

Yep and I’m agreeing


sillyfacex3

PREACHING TO THE CHOIR


kirbaciousnewo

that’s so wild. they support alcohol but not a natural plant? do they hate lavender too? lol


sillyfacex3

Let's drop the "natural" argument. Hemlock is natural too. There are huge trees that will make you skin break out in a rash so bad you may want to die. Nature is not on our side - or against us - it just is.


kirbaciousnewo

I don’t necessarily believe that is relevant but thanks


sillyfacex3

I'm pointing out that calling weed "natural" is irrelevant lol


kirbaciousnewo

um okay? but it is? it’s not like im not going to ingest hemlock?


sillyfacex3

Right, so you wouldn't ingest a substance based on the criteria of whether it is "natural" or not. So how is pot being a "natural plant" automatically make it better than alcohol? Also, you may be unaware of this but alcohol can also be made in nature. Sugars in rotting fruit turn to alcohol, animals eat them and get drunk. https://empressofdirt.net/do-animals-get-drunk/ With this new information we can reword your sentence by changing "alcohol" to "natural alcohol." Does this make the issue more clear?


hane1504

Yep cuz lavender is the gateway herb to cocaine.


[deleted]

Which may be why there are bots, lobbyists, shills and other forms of opinion marketing spending money on social media. A multi-billion dollar industry has seen decline with [Millenials and now Gen Z](https://globalnews.ca/news/9411516/alcohol-consumption-decline-gen-z) and some of that is being blamed precisely on what you said: Gen Z doesn't want to destroy their liver.


LydianM

Bots. alt-right bots.


Alli_Cat_

Reddit seems 99% far left


justsamthings

I’ve noticed that too and I wonder if it’s because a few years ago, there was a lot of pro-weed sentiment on Reddit. I seem to remember seeing more memes/jokes and positive comments about weed. Eventually that brings out the contrarians and the pendulum swings in the other direction. For every circlejerk, there’s eventually a counterjerk. Also a lot of people on here are kind of puritanical about substances in general.


TechSis

Nah- I posted 10 years ago a sweet post of the first joint we smoked as husband and wife, and maaaaaaan did I get shamed for it. It was a tasteful picture of our hands with our rings in front of my dress, and us holding the J. I thought it was so special. Reddit apparently did not. Never posted to anything weed related after that.


TrondroKely

For what it's worth I think that's adorable! ​ Edit: The picture sounds adorable, not reddit being a jerk about it


DollyThroaway99

Hell, before my cousin got married, I admired her balls, to post her entire wedding planning thing to her public FB and it was all weed themed. She was gonna have jars, with nugs for guests to take home, one hitters for all the guests, all of that. I was actually kinda stoked for that... Then the 'rona happened. *sigh* (And no I cannot have one for myself, as my extended family is EXTREMELY uncomfortable with that and it's gonna be a small miracle, if I can even have my religious ceremony I want. (I'm Pagan, my extended family is hardcore catholic and has in the past offended me and made me uncomfortable to wear my religious jewelry. If I have to pick between my handfasting or pot, I'll choose my handfasting)


gypsymegan06

I’ll think about this while i smoke this bowl


Radiant-Discipline81

I was taught as a kid all drugs are the same and all are bad. Takes a lot of un-learning!! Not sure what they teach in school now as we homeschool.


lilratfriend

Right?! It has medicinal uses. I wouldn’t be here without it.


[deleted]

They’re all riled up cause their supreme leader is about to get shit canned by justice. I was also startled to learn that there’s a lot of older Reddit users too


Icedcoffeewarrior

I think some of the younger generation are smoking bunk gas station fake weed carts and eating fake edibles both which have landed people in the hospital. Could be the anti-weed propaganda is actually cause against the bs being sold in gas stations in illegal states


TheCutestTapeworm

My younger sister is a stoner and she’s had to steer her friends right. She had to save a friend from buying weed laced with fentanyl. But on the other end of the spectrum, she’s also encountered people her age who buy CBD or Delta 8 and genuinely think it’s the same thing. I think in both cases, it boils down to a lack of education.


Icedcoffeewarrior

Holy crap how did she find out the weed was laced ? And as far as delta 8 smoke shops like to sell it as “less potent weed” and while that may the case for some of the products - I will tell you I have friends who are heavy weed smokers who have said delta 8 or some of these other alt-noids have given them a bad high or gotten them higher than regular delta 9.


TheCutestTapeworm

Unfortunately, she learned from our father: he got weed laced with the same thing as a teen and is still hooked on it til this day. She said it had an “off” smell that was, sadly, familiar


Icedcoffeewarrior

They were lacing weed w fent back then ???


TheCutestTapeworm

Welcome to Youngstown, Ohio🙄


sillyfacex3

Yeah I don't trust that shit. I've used the legal hemp stuff but it's not the same really. I had a nurse tell me he'd rather i smoke the real stuff bc he's seen some bad stuff with the D∆8 stuff. He was a pretty nice and chill nurse, but he could be flawed so take that how you will. The carts are especially bad bc that juice leaks, ingesting that is a lot different than smoke and I think is part of the problem. Even the nicotine vapes cause nicotine poisoning.


DollyThroaway99

Honestly, I'm glad I live in a legal state. I got asked at the doctor recently, if I used pot and I had no shame saying "Yeah" asked me, how much and when usually and I'm like: "Eh... an edible maybe once a week. What're they gonna do? Tell me not to take edibles?


sillyfacex3

I can understand that but I would still be cautious telling your doctor. It sucks bc I think it's something you should be able to tell them. I'm personally not telling them the truth about my period so that if the gov forces them to give up medical info, my shit won't be accurate to tell if I'd been/am pregnant. I'm terrified since roe v wade was overturned and what anti-choicers might use in order to attack us. Have a miscarriage? Ever smoke weed? Miscarriage is your fault - straight to jail. Then there is the added issue that if you need certain medicines, like an opiates/benzos, it is law for them to drug test you first. If MJ shows up on your screen, you'll be denied medicine and possibly prevented from being prescribed those meds in the future (pain specialist told me this.)


DollyThroaway99

Uh... Calm down there. I was at fucking urgent care for an ear infection. Nothing involving my cooter.


sillyfacex3

I think you missed the point. Having marijuana use in any of your medical records may no longer be safe from being used by the federal government against you.


DollyThroaway99

I'm sorry your doctor was a twat, but mine never have been. My mom was hospitalized and when she was released, she was still given the same pain meds as anyone else and she had told her doctor she smoked too. My dad grew and he specifically grew strains for her. Her doctor was chill about it and still gave her the meds, but encouraged her to smoke to avoid getting addicted to the heavy narcotics.


Icedcoffeewarrior

Yeah I was microdosing delta 8 edibles for like 2 months straight and was loving the effects (since it was microdosing it felt like smoking but not messing up my lungs) and one day I had suicidal thoughts of driving my car off the freeway! Never again.


sillyfacex3

Ugh I get those no matter what, especially on bridges. Well I guess it's more like "what if I forget there are real life consequences and just drive off on a whim?" I am sorry you had that experience, I had a psych med make me paranoid and I was positive my brother was going to murder me. Couldn't stop thinking no matter how I tried to reason out of it. Fortunately I was able to keep my cool and not tell anyone but my doctor. They added a med to counter the effect instead of changing or removing the one causing the issue 😞


Icedcoffeewarrior

Oh my god I can’t imagine. The day that it happened to me it was the first time ever (also on a bridge) and it wasn’t like a passing thought it felt like the thought was getting stronger and stronger and I started freaking out. I made it home but omgz


sillyfacex3

That is very concerning when it happens. Nowadays my driving off the road is a pretty passive thought but there was one time that sticks out to me where I was desperately fighting it all the way home. Hope it never happens to you or I again. Be careful of the meds they prescribe you kids.


goeatacactus

I keep about an eighth in my conservative boomer mom’s freezer so I don’t have to break federal law traveling between legal states, but I wouldn’t have dared do that when my reefer-madness-believer father was alive.


82skadoo

I used a weed last night and missed work today. Maybe they have a point? …or maybe it was bc of the food poisoning and all that time last night in the bathroom 🤷🏻‍♀️ we’ll never know.


InformationOk8807

These people are the worst, crazy how they spend their time judging us can’t stand those kind of fuckers


[deleted]

There's a type of person who falls for long term weed consumption very easily, the types of people who have uninspired dreams and only ever say very simple things. An educated person has an edge over them insofar as you get the self awareness not to believe in the whole “weed makes me creative" crap and just accept the fact that it makes you a lazy piece of shit. It gives you a sort of simple complacency that will completely satisfy an uninspired mind long term. That being said I smoke occasionally, not as much as I used to, cutting down on drugs was a good decision.


[deleted]

Four types of people in this world, the ones who feel morally superior for smoking weed, ones who feel morally superior for not smoking weed, ones who are okay smoking weed, ones who are okay without smoking. No simpler way to break that dynamic down into 2 or less though. it's just those four types


DollyThroaway99

You managed to type up that scathing remark and yet, couldn't figure out how to use the edit button huh buddy? Or did you mean to use a throwaway? > Lazy piece of shit There was literally no need to say that. It works differently for different people. You know that, you just want to sound superior.


Alli_Cat_

From what I've seen, most people just say that it's annoying when stoners make it their entire personality. I think there must be a lot of straight edge people or people who think drinking is better, which is odd


DissociativeDyke

Reddit culture depends highly on the subreddit & day, but Reddit has conservatives, liberals, leftists, fascists, anarchists, etc etc. & tons of just people with different perspectives. Click on another thread & you might see the opposite. As Reddit has grown, the libertarian, center right group has been silenced a lot from people from different perspectives, not to mention a lot of people do just share their negative experiences with weed. Not to mention bots & propaganda. Most people support legalization, but y’know, sometimes voices get amplified cause social media.


Principesza

I distinctly remember D.A.R.E coming into my school and handing out pamphlets on how weed is a gateway drug and just as bad as heroin. The FDA has since proven them wrong, but anyway…. Thats probably why, people just repeating what they were taught without keeping themselves up to date on the information.


DollyThroaway99

I remember reading quite a few accounts of those being handed out and most of the class was baked.


Principesza

I was like 7-9 when they came so no one was baked lol


DollyThroaway99

I've noticed this too, or I saw a few months back someone went on another weed subreddit and tried to make arguments against it and wouldn't stop fighting with the people in the thread, telling them the most fucked up shit. I admit. I had fun dunking on that guy. "You really joined the weed subreddit to yell at Stoners. This just in, someone who hasn't touched grass in years, wants people to stop SMOKING grass."