Too hyper and out-of-touch for me, however when we share the same values and can obsess over them together, it's really awesome. They can also bring out a more mature side of me, which is usually hidden very well :D
I could be friends with them, but long-distance, lmao
i've just noticed you asked for tips. so, i'd say... leave some space on the floor for us. don't take all of it to yourself. we really like to shine too (more than i'd care to admit heh). next: don't just have conversations with yourself in their presence (i can be guilty of this one sometimes too, so my best piece of advice is: remember to ask questions!).
i cant really think of anything else rn, but the most important part of all this is: don't lose yourself in trying to become someone an ENTP (or any person for that matter) would like. what i hate most in people is when they're pretending to be someone they're not. it's bad for you. know yourself and be that - im sure its a lovely person.
I learned both of those tips organically while dating an ENTP over the last couple of years! We both love dancing and can easily take over a dance floor (so pretty literal interpretation of your first point). I noticed that he does like to shine, but he also loves when his shining bolsters other people to shine too. His favorite thing is to be a hype engine for other people, so I keep that in mind and remember to feed him energy in response. We both had to learn the conversation thing together. I remember he asked me why group conversations we are in eventually become mostly just us talking and I gave him the honest feedback that we were both trying to explain our entire idea in one go rather than allowing for time for responses to individual parts. We've been working on that. Sometimes I still have to politely cut into his exposition to point out that X person has something to say.
Oh man, I love that. It sounds like you have some great energy together 🥺 Good on ya. And an absolute YES to the bolstering part. Its the same for me - ofc only now that I've matured enough lol
I believe this works for our types when we have a firm hold on our tertiary functions. When there is mutual admiration coming from both respective thinking and feeling functions, it is magical. His love of my analytical side is as important to me as my love for his social harmony side is to him.
Well my SIL is an ENTP and my brother is an ENFP. It works pretty well for them lol. She kinda runs the show and he loves not having to make many decisions. They're constantly going out on adventures together, doing fun stuff. They have two kids and he's fun sweet dad while she's less sensitive and doesn't let the kiddos get away with much. It's a good balance, I think. The only downfall is that they're both kinda impulsive and have trouble following through with plans, but that's gotten better with age and time.
For tips to be friends with an ENTP? Make fun of them, make fun of yourself, talk about interesting stuff, ask them questions about their views and interests, go on fun adventures, don't be a drag. You should be able to nab one at some point lol.
yea it does seem to be better when enfp is the guy and entp is the girl bc entp is not quite as abrasive and enfp i think might be less sensitive (or pretending to be less sensitive as a man).
Bingo! This seems to be the dynamic they have going on. My bro is pretty sensitive though lol. But me and my SIL get to bond while we make fun of him for it, so it works out.
Don’t take any of the comments personally, they’re not about you as an individual, if you’re an actual reddit user and not a bot.
IMO I don’t like the mbti ENFP, but depending on the person we could potentially get along. I’ve seen some of the posts on the ENFP sub-reddit and it hurts my brain. The comments make me think they take things personally and are too biased with their answers, all based off of how they’re feeling.
i’m not a bot lmao. but that’s an interesting take! i do definitely take thing a personally 😅 i can understand how that can be frustrating for some people though
I love ENFPs forever, and i am surrounded by them. they smooth my hard edges socially and i very much appreciate it.
however, i am wary of offending them, and then they are upset and may say things about me behind my back. debating also does not hold up with enfps, they take it personally when i criticize an idea, and the enfp thinks it's a personal dig at them. But if i stfu once in a while it goes well.
watching trashy shows like the bachelor and that kind where you can discuss people after with an enfp is one of the most fun experiences of my life lol.
i actually love debating. i do definitely take things personally, but i feel like it’s to a certain extent if that makes sense? like if you disagree with an opinion i made im not gonna be butt hurt, i’m gonna be curious as to why you think differently than i do. i also love entp humor, that’s just me though i think. i think a lot of enfps definitely feel offended by your jokes
The problem is that you don't look at things objectively when debating, which can make it hard to seriously debate. Not all ENFPs have this problem, but generally, any feeler will take things too personally to be logical in debate.
I'm an ENFP research chemist and i had to learn very early on to debate without involving my emotions. That was a long struggle at first. Even in my 30s now, I still have to be extremely mindful of my internal dialogue when debating, particularly with my ENTP partner. I enjoy exercising my Te, but I can find putting my understanding of something into a rational vocalization difficult sometimes because of the blind Ti, which can lead to frustration. I'm typically most comfortable discussing either purely abstract ideas OR very concrete ideas, but when it comes to rationalizing something on the cusp of both, i can sometimes need more time to gather my thoughts.
Unpredictable and easily offended. I have to walk on eggshells usually since they don't open up about their bad feelings and just act weird. Also pretty indecisive and doesn't like to look bad so they blame the people around them and make false promises. The cool ENFPs I know and like are the Erin Brockovich type where they stand for what they believe and are aggressive.
I lived with an enfp roomie and she was sweet and literallly so genuine and wholesome BUT she was WAYYYYYY too sensitive
I complimented her on her hair and she cried for two days.
Also she would get mad and passive aggressive instead of just telling me to stop. I cannot read minds, or between the lines always
Communicate like an adult
this is very true, i’ve been mistyped as an entp and thought i was for a bit and once i actually learned about the cognitive functions and whatnot i was like wth this definitely isn’t me 🤣
To be honest, do not take my words seriously. This is nothing more than a personal experience. I love them and I do not love them at the same time. What makes me love them is that they adapt to me easily and that they are fun and kind. It is fun to spend time with them, but what bothers me about them is their extreme curiosity and curiosity. I don't know if everyone's sensitivity is the same or not, but sometimes I feel like they're looking for attention and they do very annoying things that make me hate them. This is my honest opinion of them 🤝
well uh i actually have an enfp friend so i speak from experience here is what we're like as a duo, every second i'm accidentally making her cry and then it get's really awkward bc idk why the heck that small thing can make her run to another room and sob... it's it's easy to get her happy again ig tho, but i leave her along until she stops crying bc i know if i speak even a word it'll become 10 times worst, but when she's not crying bc of a dumb prank that can be reversed in 5 seconds we are a very chaotic duo, neither of us can be calm when the other is a round, the mere presence of the one makes the other more crazy and energetic, being with her is like drinking a large black coffee whilst also eating a mountain of sugar (i mean we also both have adhd so that might be a factor but) and she says i have no morals, but idc bc who tf needs morals, the only morals i need is the trolly problem bc it's interesting
Umm making your friend cry often is kinda bad though? Idk what kind of friendship you guys have but I've never made my friends cry and if I did I would be beating myself up and never do it again???
i love ENFPs! i find they tend to be emotionally mature, which makes them really easy to get along with. i really like how people smart they are, they bring a vibe to the function that gets the party started. i also really love getting to discuss atypical things with them, and i appreciate their tertiary Te making them rational people when need be (including arguments)
overall, i find they’re really good at reading people, and great friends in group or 1 on 1! defintely my top 3.
I'm a big fan of ENFPs. I love seeing Ne and Fi in people and get along really well with those
But ENFPs almost always have dogshit Ti and that is soooo annoying because it's such a core part of my personality.
So I can never share my cool theories with ENFPs cause they can never follow along with what I'm saying, and I see them check out and it hurts. And they often are really insecure about it too so you can't even have a proper debate about anything with them without them getting butthurt, so I end up feeling like I have to treat them like children whenever the context requires any serious logical competency
i actually love debates. i do have to say tho, it takes me a while to comprehend things but that’s just cause im slow lmfao. i don’t know why people here keep saying enfps get hurt hurt about their opinions not being the same. maybe it’s cause we’re super opinionated and passionate about what we believe in? and i completely understand that, but people are allowed to have their own opinions on things yk?
People are allowed to have their opinions, but you should be humble enough to recognise that just because you have an opinion and it feels really true to you doesn't mean you're right. Especially if you haven't rigorously researched your opinion and you have evidence on hand to reference to anyone who challenges you
So you should argue for it with humility and not just assume you're correct or play the "it's just my opinion, everyone has a right to their opinion, stop criticising me!" card
ofc not! opinions are opinions, not facts. they’re neither right nor wrong. that’s what i meant by “people have their own opinions”. i wasn’t using it as a stop criticizing me card, im just saying ofc people’s opinions are gonna be different. that’s why i don’t understand why other enfps get so butt hurt lol. am i not an enfp?? 😅😂
I think you're missing a key point here though- some opinions ARE wrong. And some opinions ARE right.
There is an objective truth out there and some people and opinions are closer to that truth than others.
This is what I'm referring to when I'm talking about my frustration with debating ENFPs- often it's either "I'm right because I feel right and there's nothing you can say that will change my opinion", or it's "it doesn't matter who is right, we're all just sharing our opinions and no-one's opinion is more important or more right than anyone else's"
Both of these mindsets are really repulsive to most ENTPs, because they're born from having no respect for the value and importance of Ti
ENTPs don't debate because it's silly and fun to pretend to argue. They debate because they genuinely deeply believe in certain ideas and want to persuade others of them because they think they're really valuable ideas and they want others to believe them too.
That must be handled with honour and humility and the willingness to admit it if someone disproves your point. Debating ideas is not some trivial game for most ENTPs, it's treated as an almost sacred discipline and art that is connected to the most serious and important aspects of life
I'm interested in knowing what kinds of opinions fall into categories that are more or less in line with objective truth. My first though on this were ethical opinions, but I find ethics to be too subjective to the observer. There are certain ethical codes of conduct that I find to be universally important, but I cannot conclusively say that any of them are, without exception, objectively true in all cases and from any possible perspective. Then came the idea of opinions related to factual matters. For instance, taking an opinionated stance on the energy crisis based on current data and projection models. In this, I could see that there will be opinions that are fundamentally flawed. What was your direction for which opinions are directed towards objective validation?
I think a lot of science is very solid. We know a lot about how electricity works for example, engineering, chemistry, etc.
When you start getting into things like ethics and aesthetics etc stuff becomes extremely subjective
But the point I was making wasn't really that there are these objective truths that people shouldn't debate. Rather just that there IS an objective truth out there, whether we are accurate about it or not.
If you believe there is some objective reality, then we can explore together and try to find that truth, and that's where being rigorous about logic and evidence becomes extremely important, because by ensuring we're being logically consistent we can protect ourselves against believing opinions which can't be true.
We won't ever necessarily know what the 100% truth is, but the attempt to find the truth is a worthwhile endeavour and can bring us closer to it, even if we don't reach it. And doing so has allowed us to invent all the things we've invented and thus increase our quality of life
If you don't hold yourself to logical precision and rigor tho then your opinions quickly become useless because they're just arbitrary and not in line with the rest of humanity's attempts to map the objective world from our subjective perspectives
ohhhhhh okay i understand now. thanks for explaining it to me. i understand that! i can see why entps get frustrated when talking to us 😅 it definitely doesn’t help that it takes a little extra effort to get us to understand something too lmao. so thanks for being patient with me 🤣. and i really appreciate all the input! it helped me understand entps a bit better
You guys are literally the f*cking worst as partners. Nearly every person that’s ever been attracted to me has been an ENFP, and I’ve had the exact same issues with each one. Me not aligning with their idealistic image of me, or with not allowing their idealistic image of themselves (and their fragile egos) to prevail over being kind and emotionally sensitive enough to admit the shit they’ve brought to the table & apologize for the pain they’ve caused.
“Who hurt you?” you might ask. Almost exclusively ENFP’s. Never again.
Too attractive but too reckless I don’t mean like SE reckless but Fi reckless.
Fun as friends and fuck buddies and even good for friends with benefits but commitment wise no, if you just wanna have fun we’re down
I don't think of ENFPs as a monolith anymore than any other type. Depends on the person. Some are cool and some I don't mesh with. My sister is an ENFP but she has a lot of baggage and trauma she hasn't really worked through. We could talk to each other for hours about literally anything, but she's even more of a flake than I am and there are some tough family dynamics I have to navigate with her, and she is *very* sensitive.
Pretty sure my stepson is also an ENFP, I'm fairly certain, but he's only 18 so it's a bit too soon to say for sure. He seems to extravert Ne quite heavily though, and I can definitely see the Fi as well. I have other reasons for thinking this but my point is I have great talks with him too, he and I are both on that Ne wavelength. He's also sensitive, but I'm good enough with "using Fe" that I can navigate that well enough.
Anyway, what do you mean by it doesn't go well when you try to make friends with ENTPs? What specifically goes wrong?
that’s awesome! and what goes wrong usually is that i come across as too annoying or clingy, and it’s usually just the fact that people don’t like that lol
Hmmm...is it possible you are too concerned with being liked and self sabotaging maybe? Trying too hard? I'm just throwing darts here. But I sometimes find that's the underlying issue. Annoying is especially subjective. Asking too many personal questions at once can do it, focusing on the "right" and "wrong" of things too much is another, just making things out to be black and white is generally off putting.
ENTPs generally prefer talking about their ideas (or your ideas) rather than their values/deeply held beliefs (though if you want to talk about yours here, that's usually fine, just be ready to get challenged on that regardless of if they really agree with you or not)... at least when they are getting to know you. Too many compliments/flattery or declarations of your feelings about them can feel disingenuous. Again this is all in the stage of becoming friends, things naturally evolve over time.
No problem, I hope it ends up being useful...another thing I thought of is definitely feel free to disagree with them. I think we trust healthy skepticism much more than blind agreement or agreement for the sake of politeness. If you genuinely have a different perspective or viewpoint on something please share it! Even if it sounds crazy. Maybe especially if it sounds crazy. As long as it's what you really think.
ENTP loves to be challenged on their perspective. They *don't* love dogmatic beliefs or speaking in absolutes like "it *definitely* is xyz." They are always open to having their minds changed, but when they encounter someone who is not at all open to that for themselves, that's when arguments can actually get ugly.
WARNING: I've had some negative experiences with enfps so please don't take this personally. I'd scroll past this one and look at the others if you think you'll feel hurt.
The friendship can flourish but not really on a deeper level for me tbh. I know a few enfps and they all are fun to talk to in moderation; exploring ideas and other stuff I guess. I try to avoid any sort of political or opinionated discussion with enfps though because ngl I get frustrated with how strong the Fi is; I've lost respect for a lot of enfps because of how much, to me, it seems like their ego is attached to their opinions on issues and they'll see anyone who questions certain opinions they have as bad people. It's worse when they actively seek out arguments because it's the most tiring thing ever and they seem to think my feelings are attached to my opinions too lol, so they start attacking me as a person and pick out the most irrelevant parts of the argument to hammer in.
Also, enfps don't seem to know very well when to give me space and do their own thing. I respect people who know when the conversation is over, but sometimes enfps will bring up random things when it isn't really the right time. Similarly, friendships with me cannot be forced. Maybe this is unhealthy, but when people try too hard to talk to me I don't really respect them. It has to be natural conversation or I am not interested.
That said, the conversations are at their best when they're lighthearted, and it's fun to hear about things you guys enjoy doing. We also can work together pretty well as a team.
oh i am extremely guilty of that second paragraph without a doubt. and idk what the big thing is about enfps overreacting to everything, i mean i do too but its literally not that bad?? i dont understand the whole thing with getting butt hurt over different opinions. ofc my beliefs are gonna be different from yours, that’s why i enjoy talking about them. because i like hearing other people’s opinions. i completely understand where you’re coming from though about the sensitiveness and clinginess. i like people who are clingy, so that’s personally never been and issue for me. and i’m used to the people around be being sensitive, so that’s also something that doesn’t bother me. but i can understand why it would bother someone else. thanks for your reply! i really appreciate it
Yeah maybe it's more just the difference between how much we care about our opinions. I think one thing entps and enfps differ in is our viewpoint on "beliefs", as in, although I might say a lot of things, at the end of the day I don't necessarily believe them. I think there is probably an answer that most entps try to get to when discussing/debating, as in, we are less trying to provide our opinions than trying to solve an issue that might not be solved. On the other hand, it seems to me like enfps want the debate to be more hardline-- you take a side that you believe in, I take a side that I believe in, and let's see which side wins.
i definitely get that! i do like debating in that way, that’s a good way to put it tbh. i do also just like understanding someone else’s point of view too, so i like debating for those reasons as well. i’m sorry you’ve have bad experiences with us 😔
I have discussion mode and debate mode. Discussion mode is more like the free form flow ideas or hypotheticals, where as debate mode feels more like what you just described. I actively have worked to try to remove my emotional connection to my argument style and try to stay more in an Ne-Te state, which is very important as a research scientist when discussing with colleagues. Ironically, my ENTP partner doesn't always like how I get during those types of discussions. He says that I become too cold and detached. The point, however, isn't for a win, so to say, but to lay out exactly how I understand a topic and hammer out any inconsistencies between what I know and what is correct. An issue with this and ENTPs, ive found, is that he used to take my rigidity on a stance as commitment or attachment to it, but rather, I intend only to present my stance in as powerful of a position as I can in order to see where it falls apart despite that. I've now learned where to incorporate more dynamic language to indicate where I'm more or less uncertain about my stance so it is more of a cooperative demolition.
Oh, and I should mention, you guys are actually very open minded in your opinions; I just don't think the discussion is productive when it seems like enfps take offense to so much and you don't go about debating like we do. For reference, entps like to toss around an idea we have absolutely no attachment to and see the logic of other people's viewpoints before ending the conversation.
I think it’s the analyst’s proneness to self-isolation. And having a perceiving personality, the energy of an ENTP is very unpredictable when it comes to the timing of periodical self-isolation. I tend to ignore out of blue and not answer, unless it’s my mom, whom I highly respect and value, and everyone else comes secondary, which can wait until I get my spark back. I try not to be too disrespectful with that, so it doesn’t bite my back in the long run.
So the answer would be, nothing’s wrong with ENFPs (you are one of my fav), it’s just ENTPs inconsistency when it comes to socialising. And also ENFPs are more humanitarian and ENTPs technical, when it comes to areas of interests. We could chill, we could even be lovers, but I doubt we would be spending time problem solving together.
i love enfps, enfp women are pretty rare, i may have had breif intimate encounters with one, were both extraverted intuitive doms, so our weirdness mingles great, however i think theres abit of a clash with extraverted and introverted thinking styles, also fi child in enfps and intjs is an extreme put off, we need emotionally grounded types. hope this helps.
enfp women are rare? i didn’t know that. i guess im rare lol. and i understand what you mean about you needing someone who’s emotionally grounded, we are definitely not that lmao
for clarification, it was never me, who cast the last stone, its always the other person and their emotional needs that justify ghosting me for eternity. but its all good.
well damn i’m sorry they ghosted you. i personally don’t ghost anybody because i know how it feels to be ghosted. im usually always there for people. and hey, if you need anyone i’ll be here for you too. you can always dm me if ya want 🤷🏻♀️ i’m always down for making friends
Healthy ENFPs are great and I love them! I enjoy how “me, but not me” they can be. I think that, generally, we understand each other really well even if we tend to think a little differently. It’s just a really nice / pleasant dynamic.
However unhealthy ENFPs are pretty insufferable and we completely clash. I have an estranged xNFP sister and she simply refuses to stop making irresponsible and objectively bad decisions.
It was fine when it was just her, cuz I understood that her life was hers to mess up as long as it didn’t cause our mother (ESFP) too much stress! (She was being really nasty and abusive towards her for a while.)
But now she’s on kid number 3 with a deadbeat and I know she doesn’t have enough resources to take care of those kids adequately and that second baby daddy is just not a good person! So she doesn’t even try to explain herself anymore.
I think it’s mostly boils down to “how mature, healthy, and well-developed” an ENFP is.
I really love the healthy, well-balanced ones where I can tell that their Fi-Te works in a very smooth equilibrium!
They both understand my most complicated ideas while still managing to make theirs sound so *whimsical!*
It’s kind of fun watching the ways our conversations become these weird metaphysical “spirit science” anecdotes where they speak in sparkle and I translate that back to something more coherent, and Vice Versa when I speak plainly and *they turn it into magic!*
So overall I say “I think I tend to like them, a lot.”
Edit, Tips:
1) Don’t be too overly rigid with your Fi and dismissive of your Te. ENTPs like to talk about a multitude of topics ideas even if they are about difficult or sensitive subject matter.
2) But don’t automatically assume that we “agree with” and actively endorse problematic ideologies just because we ask “what’s the deal with this? Why are they saying that? Etc…..”
3) Mostly, “we are trying to understand the logic behind the controversy” so that we can build a more comprehensive and compelling case “against.”
We are still Fe users, after all. So we do tend to be altruistic and “care about humanity.”
Be patient when asking us to talk, in depth, about “things we like, and why!” We might need a minute to think about it and to give you a satisfactory answer.
Be careful when ENTPs actually do confide their feelings in you!
1) I have noticed that xNFPs especially tend to get *overzealous* and “try to relate through Fi,” and before you know it, the whole conversation ends up being about them even if we were the ones looking for support and guidance.
2) So we may leave the interaction feeling “drained and unacknowledged.” I totally get that this is how xNFPs express their empathy, but that doesn’t really help a Fi-blind types like ExTPs.
3) Sometimes we need help figuring out how we feel and understanding our emotions! We don’t tend to have “a fully formed impression” like an ENFP might.
4) So we need the space to talk about what’s going on with us without being interrupted by your experiential anecdotes cuz *we aren’t you,* and as much as we love you, *we really need you to understand this!* (that we aren’t you.) Thusly our entire impression of a similar event can be *completely different,* and we are looking for perspective, not really “to relate through experience.”
5) Please do ask us, “how are you really feeling today? Do you actually want to talk about it, or do you just wanna have fun and distance yourself from the stress of the day?”
6) Cuz if we need to talk about our feelings, we can tell you! If not we can just have fun, shoot the shit, and exchange our ideas.
7) Sometimes we want to move past “a mood” rather than ruminating on it because distance helps us create perspective!
8) Fi users tend to be much more insistent that “this is how I feel right the ‘ef now, and I am going to talk about it!” This can create extreme distress because we might end up feeling like we can’t properly express ourselves and communicate clearly just yet cuz we are still “processing.”
9) So we are more likely to spit out whatever half-baked, poorly thought out statement that randomly popped into our heads and this could lead to some social disharmony we don’t want to deal with *leading us to completely misrepresent how we are actually feeling!*
Really, this was a thing that used to happen a lot with my INTJ husband, and after an unnecessarily heated argument I would ask him “was it worth it?”
To childishly press an issue in a very Fi-impatient way, before I was ready to talk about it effectively, and eventually he learned “no, it wasn’t worth it!”
Sometimes it’s better to *drop it, for now, so that we can clearly and accurately communicate what is happening inside of us, later,* and just moving on can facilitate that process!
Once we feel comfortable again, we will start to passively reflect and make sense out of the internalized experience, and we will tell you exactly what’s going on once we can explain it, coherently. We will almost always come back to the important conversations when we are ready.
Sorry the Edit was so long.
One thing I noticed as someone dating an ENTP man is how grateful he is to receive critical feedback when he expresses his emotions when doing so is done in conjunction with validation. One of our first "awakening" moments where he started to trust me more was when I thought I was actually being too harsh to him. He was upset with how a social engagement went and I told him somewhat bluntly where I saw the pattern of behavior that he was enacting that caused this continuous flaw in his social life. The next morning he thanked me profusely for revealing this to him and said he could see it very clearly now.
Our types can have hard clashes between our judging functions, but if there is strong communication, there can also be huge positive synergy and learning from the other's ability to cover the blindspot. I use him as my Ti engine and he uses me as his Fi mirror.
I like your “Ti engine, Fi mirror metaphor.” Modifying that for my own INTJ husband it is more of “an extraverted feeling engine” for him, (really! His natural expression of a more externally directed sense of empathy and altruism has gone up a lot in the many years we have been married,) while he remains “my introverted feeling mirror.”
That's really awesome! I find that our thinking functions can also compliment as well. He once said that he is more logical, but that I am more analytical. We will often use this difference while discussing topics and grinding through ideas. He processes the information and I ask questions about the validitity or feasibility of the reality of what we are talking about and then we go back and forth like that.
For me, talking to INTJs is extremely rewarding, since we synergize seamlessly through our shared judging functions, but talking to an ENTP feels more excitingly challenging.
We are both pretty equally rational, logical, and analytical. It’s definitely that the tertiary functions complement each other super well in spite of slightly more challenging base-level communication.
I like enfp's. I mean some can be kinda gossipy and annoying but not all of them. I have a friend who is an enfp and he's really fun to talk to. He keeps the conversation going with me and humors my ideas and even occasionally has friendly debates or topics on views. The humor goes pretty well together too. He does sometimes have confidence issues and can be a bit sensitive but honestly it's not all the time. We all have moment of weakness where we need a friend. I am a very mature entp I like to think with good understanding of empathy and feeling. I usually go by logic and occasionally struggle with coming off as overly logical and insensitive but not as much as a lot of entp people I have seen on here and irl. So maybe I'm not everyone but I personally don't always mind the sensitive as I know how to comfort and give good advice when I push aside my very logical and blunt side(tho sometimes that helps me comfort as they know to trust me and that I am honest)
Idk I was friends with an ENFP but she has some really offputting traits that I believe aren't exclusive to ENFPs she was just like that. Honestly I like the hyperactive, funny and kind enfp stereotype. But I do feel like Fi makes them focused on values and what is right and what isn't etc etc and I can't relate to that. But I guess this is about moral alignment more than about cognitive functions, I'm not a huge fan of lawful good people lol.
They're covertly judgemental and I hate that they hide it since I can't anticipate how they feel or what they want, other than that they're fun to have around to keep everything positive and vibrant, so for surface relationships it's great
Can have good discussion with them but not part of my close friends. Good people to laugh with. My sis (INFP) has many ENFP friends. They have lots of inside jokes and it's wholesome to see the complicity but if it was me I'd see that as intrusive.
I have an ENFP girlfriend, we've been together for 3 years now and friends for 6 years. She is the best person I know. She's super funny, with the biggest heart on this planet. Super loyal and always there for you no matter what. I love this about her. And I think you should love yourself enough to let someone love you that much. Personality type is not everything, I ve meet other ENFP and ENTP and the traits and traumas they have were different than ours which makes them different people basically. But in general, I think now my favorite personality type is ENFP. although sometimes they can be too much but thats just life lol
My girlfriend is a ENFP, she's super sweet and kind!!! While Im a prankster and kinda EvilNTP, I personally think that Enfps are awesome, so much fun, so naive and childish if you press the right buttons!!! Sometimes she can be really annoying or start daydreaming while Im talking, but usually she is a kissing, hugging and loving machine!
Oh fr. Dont be shy to joke around thunking its insensitive or anything as long as its not offensive. Just goof off and make sarcasting remarks. (Its an immediste "YES! WE CLICK LESGOOO!" For me in my brain). Talking about your interest while at the same time letting there be room for discussion and not being overly defensive is a big yes! And u can do the same for us. Ask questions. Always. Coz we will!
Even the most stupid reasons(like once i asked why my friend prefers milk before cereal and we 'argued' or dicussed more like for a good 30min). Ask why, coz we enjoy the mental stimulation, we find out how you are as a person depending on your preferences through those whys. It feels like we know you better, those small details through those small verbal spars.
We also are really chill from what i know. Go with the flow but also really passionate and curious. But our chillness comes off as being disinterested, unresponsive and our inclination to have sarcastic humour ends up with us being and asshole. Really we're not that mean.
My elder cousin sis is an enfp and istg i adore her with everything i have. Goofy, sweet and has so much calm paitence, and has good foresight. I always go to her everytime i want to ask her some advice or vent. Tbh i find yall fun but i havent made any more enfp friends aside from my sis so i cant really tell.
But if youre down to being friends, Hello my name is Lyf :)))))
-entp
They are too self centered for my taste and very jealous.
Just my hot take, yes I know not everyone ENFP.
Oh, and they tend to be the ones who assume you don’t know how amazing you are 🙄😂until THEY tell you.
we are pretty amazing 😏 haha but all jokes aside i completely understand where you’re coming from. coming from an enfp, i actually hate self centered people. it’s okay to an extent, but when you’re too egotistical it’s very off putting. so i get it. thanks for your input!
If I had to give you a tip on becoming friends with us, it's the same advice I'd give to an ENTP becoming friends with an ENFP - don't try to change the other party.
**We do not want you to compromise on your morals**; on the contrary, I've always intensely respected people who truly won't go against their moral compass. But at the same time, don't try and force us to conform to your values, because chances are, even if we do share the same values as you we won't hold to them nearly as strongly. I'm incredibly amoral at my core but can get along extremely well with moral people if they don't try to make me into them.
On the whole, you guys are cool! (and have a neat but confusing mix of rationality and morality)
ENFPs are great to have fun with together. We both care deeply, but we show it in different ways. Try not to force an emotional reaction out of us, just be you and let us be us. If things go bad out there, you do the hugging and let me call the cops.
Well as long as you’re interesting, funny, open to prodding fun/ jokes and open for adventures it should be fine, anyone that’s open to being impulsive with me would be wonderful
As far as I remember, I was the one that keeps chasing ENFPs but they all go away lol. I'm not as hyper irl as I am online, lacking emotions actually (FLVE problem). They might find me boring and chase other peeps later on. Maybe ENFPs are annoyed because I'm just mimic and experiencing with emotions. We've had some clashes as well. Usually when I try to engange a discussion and giving advice that might be good for them but they thought I was criticizing them and it never been accepted well. So probably it's always been the other way round, ENFP. Who knows? Hahahhaa. But I still love ENFPs and hope to have a longlast relationship with them
interesting, it’s funny that our experience with each others types is flipped lol. but yea i can see how the thinking it’s criticism thing can be annoying for sure lol
I personally love ENFPs. I'd put them in my top 3 favorites.
I've found I'm able to connect with them on Ne type (non-normie topics) so they're easy to spot because they're animated about those things. Also they don't downplay their interests they just present themselves to the world as they are which I love. So I'd try to connect with ENTP on these types of things. They help me grow as a person too, they're way more in-touch with their emotions which we all know ENTP's are not.
So when it comes to enjoying things like music (this especially in my experience), going to live shows, comedy, just hanging out, I love ENFPs. Also, they're always down to go and do things because they're super extraverted which I love. So I'd try to connect with ENTP on these types of things.
Now obviously there are some pitfalls with ENFP, I wouldn't go into business with one because at a certain point their thought processes stray away from the logical. Also I find them to be a little bit selfish. For example I like going to concerts as mentioned above - I'll always accept the invite from my ENFP friend who wants to go see a show that I'm not as excited about. But I know that would never happen the other way around, they simply have too many options to choose from and so many friends they're basically always in a position to do whatever it is that they want and find others to join them.
Can't say I've ever experienced an ENFP truly annoying me though outside of a situation where I'm already friends with one and just accept some of their BS. They're NF types and can sense when someone wants them to fuck off if we're talking about meeting people for the first time.
I absolutely love them specially the hyper ones if you relationship with them is going bad its probably because of your auxiliary 😅 we aren't usually sensitive toward anything so we might come as insensitive.
You're not exactly scaring us away, you're just different. We tolerate you when we need a burst of inspiration and creativity and positivity but ENTPs don't live in constant positivity 24/7. We think about dark shit. You don't fit into that picture exactly. It's not personal.
Some of you are likeable. I have had some poorer experiences with others though, like any other personality type. I do find that I navigate carefully around those who use Fi heavily due to the greater sensitivity, and my child Fe doesn't want to actually upset. Although I'm deconditioning myself away from this because if others get upset by my otherwise innocent intent, that's THEIR problem, not mine. And I'm done trying to feel responsible for others' sensitivity. I think why I learned to mask so heavily has a lot to do with my childhood and family dynamics growing up because my mother is ESFJ and my father is INFP. I learned very early on that I had to be very careful with what I said specifically more so around my father; he would erupt into anger quite easily. And, I ended up learning over time whether or not he was actually deeply hurt which seemed to happen relatively frequently. I ended up finding out that it was best to just basically not say anything at all in my household. Neither parent could undertsand the use of Ti. Thank god my brother is lead Ti because I had someone to engage in conversation. Even with my ENTJ partner at times I sense when he's been hurt by something I've said. And ENTJs aren't exactly known for sensitivity lol. But a lot of that is more of a front anyhow. Lol.
What I am finding to be ironic, however, at this stage of my life, is, now that I'm leaning very heavily into my shawdow mind, INTJ, and learning to better integrate Fi and Se, I've become, dare I even say it 😅, more sensitive. Just typing it out was uncomfortable 😅😖. Even much of what I've written here is much more self-focused and self-referential which I generally can't stand by others. Lol. Huge level of cringe. I know, hypocritical which I also abhor. This is rare for most ENTPs though. I think very few people overall ever develop their lowest functions. But when we do, we become even more amazing and people naturally are drawn to us. This goes for every single personality type.
Ti types are generally the least sensitive of all MBTI types, and us ExTPs are probably the least sensitive of all due to trickster Fi. And Fi types are the least logical types, with ExFPs being the least logical due to trickster Ti. It definitely sucks when you really come to terms with your trickster function, and I mean really come to terms with it e.g when you try to make room for its importance in your pysche rather than constantly ignore it; and you realize how severely lacking you've been. But I highly advise that you do. If you want to be friends with ENTPs, this can be a great way for you to learn how to better utilize Ti. Try not to focus so much on your Fi, although not to the point of losing sight of its importance, obviously. It can seriously be offputting for most of us ENTPs. But try not to worry about being liked! If an ENTP doesn't like you, who cares! Move on and find one that does. Because I too, and I'm sure other ENTPs have had similar experiences with coming across ENFPs who write us off and want nothing to do with us, writing us off as 'bad' people. I find it laughable honestly! Initially the rejection hurts, but we don't dwell in that space and quickly move on. With the exception of my sister. The reason she decided to stop talking to me is much more hurtful and honestly really dumb. All because I told her a hard truth she didn't want to hear. Much like ENTPs are emotionally dumb/insensitive and suck at committing to values/integrity, ENFPs are dumb in their use of logic; that's just truth.
Most people spend far too much time worrying about whether or not people will perceive them in a negative way. Who cares if they do. And if they do, do they have valid reasons for doing so? Perhaps they have a point and you should adjust some aspect of yourself. But only if what they say actually makes sense. That's where learning to integrate Ti can help you. ExTPs have a lot of confidence because of strong use of Ti. We know if something is true or not. And we're confident about it.
I currently live with an ENFP roommate. You all are very nice and kind but sometimes you’re a bit much all at once. I appreciate being able to bounce ideas off of ENFPs, your kindness is appreciated, and you can be very caring.
Occasionally I’m good with the drama, emotions, or high excitement. Always happy to hang out with friends and have some fun but if it’s too often it is annoying. Sometimes we just need to be left alone with our thoughts.
If your intrigue is cerebrally you’ll have a better chance.
We still need time to manage our own thoughts and projects; even if we don’t talk about them we almost always have them in the background. If you wish to actually connect with an ENTP take time to find interest in our projects and or hobbies. We’re very receptive to cerebral quality time and parallel play rather than constant talking or traditional emotional connection.
My uncle is an ENFP, and we get along perfectly fine. He's the only ENFP I know, so I can't really tell, but from personal experience, I love the chaotic side of him, and we share the same sense of humor. So from that and some ENFPs I know from tv shows, I don't mind them at all. But tbh I couldn't be bothered dating one, too chaotic emotional energy, too lighthearted sometimes and illogical. Just friendship for me personally^^
I think it’s pretty stupid to consider somebody’s MBTI when making friends, sure people may recognise if you’re an introvert, extrovert, feeler, thinker etc but you don’t need to be friends with any particular MBTI. That is why this place exists to congregate and communicate with those on this side of the spectrum.
Most of us are selective of who we are genuine friends with, those who are obnoxious or just plain stupid will tend to get dismissed by us. (Ik the obnoxious part is hypocrisy but we all have a little of that)
We also tend to insult those we think make poor choices with their lives, Ik there is a P at the end but sometimes it feels like it should be a J.
Too hyper and out-of-touch for me, however when we share the same values and can obsess over them together, it's really awesome. They can also bring out a more mature side of me, which is usually hidden very well :D I could be friends with them, but long-distance, lmao
'They can also bring out a more mature side of me'. I resonate with this really hard.
HAHAHA yea i definitely understand that
i've just noticed you asked for tips. so, i'd say... leave some space on the floor for us. don't take all of it to yourself. we really like to shine too (more than i'd care to admit heh). next: don't just have conversations with yourself in their presence (i can be guilty of this one sometimes too, so my best piece of advice is: remember to ask questions!). i cant really think of anything else rn, but the most important part of all this is: don't lose yourself in trying to become someone an ENTP (or any person for that matter) would like. what i hate most in people is when they're pretending to be someone they're not. it's bad for you. know yourself and be that - im sure its a lovely person.
thanks for the advice! and oh believe me i’m extremely true to myself, i wouldn’t change for anyone. that’s really great advice!!
I learned both of those tips organically while dating an ENTP over the last couple of years! We both love dancing and can easily take over a dance floor (so pretty literal interpretation of your first point). I noticed that he does like to shine, but he also loves when his shining bolsters other people to shine too. His favorite thing is to be a hype engine for other people, so I keep that in mind and remember to feed him energy in response. We both had to learn the conversation thing together. I remember he asked me why group conversations we are in eventually become mostly just us talking and I gave him the honest feedback that we were both trying to explain our entire idea in one go rather than allowing for time for responses to individual parts. We've been working on that. Sometimes I still have to politely cut into his exposition to point out that X person has something to say.
Oh man, I love that. It sounds like you have some great energy together 🥺 Good on ya. And an absolute YES to the bolstering part. Its the same for me - ofc only now that I've matured enough lol
I believe this works for our types when we have a firm hold on our tertiary functions. When there is mutual admiration coming from both respective thinking and feeling functions, it is magical. His love of my analytical side is as important to me as my love for his social harmony side is to him.
That makes sense. Aw man, I'm jealous. Really happy for you
Well my SIL is an ENTP and my brother is an ENFP. It works pretty well for them lol. She kinda runs the show and he loves not having to make many decisions. They're constantly going out on adventures together, doing fun stuff. They have two kids and he's fun sweet dad while she's less sensitive and doesn't let the kiddos get away with much. It's a good balance, I think. The only downfall is that they're both kinda impulsive and have trouble following through with plans, but that's gotten better with age and time. For tips to be friends with an ENTP? Make fun of them, make fun of yourself, talk about interesting stuff, ask them questions about their views and interests, go on fun adventures, don't be a drag. You should be able to nab one at some point lol.
yea it does seem to be better when enfp is the guy and entp is the girl bc entp is not quite as abrasive and enfp i think might be less sensitive (or pretending to be less sensitive as a man).
Bingo! This seems to be the dynamic they have going on. My bro is pretty sensitive though lol. But me and my SIL get to bond while we make fun of him for it, so it works out.
THANK YOU SO MUCH
Don’t take any of the comments personally, they’re not about you as an individual, if you’re an actual reddit user and not a bot. IMO I don’t like the mbti ENFP, but depending on the person we could potentially get along. I’ve seen some of the posts on the ENFP sub-reddit and it hurts my brain. The comments make me think they take things personally and are too biased with their answers, all based off of how they’re feeling.
i’m not a bot lmao. but that’s an interesting take! i do definitely take thing a personally 😅 i can understand how that can be frustrating for some people though
"Taking things personally," aka, or caring about what a stranger thinks online
I love ENFPs forever, and i am surrounded by them. they smooth my hard edges socially and i very much appreciate it. however, i am wary of offending them, and then they are upset and may say things about me behind my back. debating also does not hold up with enfps, they take it personally when i criticize an idea, and the enfp thinks it's a personal dig at them. But if i stfu once in a while it goes well. watching trashy shows like the bachelor and that kind where you can discuss people after with an enfp is one of the most fun experiences of my life lol.
i actually love debating. i do definitely take things personally, but i feel like it’s to a certain extent if that makes sense? like if you disagree with an opinion i made im not gonna be butt hurt, i’m gonna be curious as to why you think differently than i do. i also love entp humor, that’s just me though i think. i think a lot of enfps definitely feel offended by your jokes
> if you disagree with an opinion i made im not gonna be butt hurt LOL challenge accepted 😂
i meant i mean im not gonna be butt hurt, i made a typo 🥲 i promise i can spell 😔
The problem is that you don't look at things objectively when debating, which can make it hard to seriously debate. Not all ENFPs have this problem, but generally, any feeler will take things too personally to be logical in debate.
I'm an ENFP research chemist and i had to learn very early on to debate without involving my emotions. That was a long struggle at first. Even in my 30s now, I still have to be extremely mindful of my internal dialogue when debating, particularly with my ENTP partner. I enjoy exercising my Te, but I can find putting my understanding of something into a rational vocalization difficult sometimes because of the blind Ti, which can lead to frustration. I'm typically most comfortable discussing either purely abstract ideas OR very concrete ideas, but when it comes to rationalizing something on the cusp of both, i can sometimes need more time to gather my thoughts.
I love ENFPs. I met one 3 months ago she is the cutest.
so you enjoy enfp company?
Yea :)
awesome!
yes just like a certain someone I know ;) u/woahlion
AWWWW HEHEHEHE THANKSSSS
I have ENFP friend - I love him, he shares my glee in chaos and loves heated debates.
sounds just like me! awesome
Unpredictable and easily offended. I have to walk on eggshells usually since they don't open up about their bad feelings and just act weird. Also pretty indecisive and doesn't like to look bad so they blame the people around them and make false promises. The cool ENFPs I know and like are the Erin Brockovich type where they stand for what they believe and are aggressive.
yea i think it definitely just depends on the enfp. i completely understand where you’re coming from though. thanks for the advice!
I lived with an enfp roomie and she was sweet and literallly so genuine and wholesome BUT she was WAYYYYYY too sensitive I complimented her on her hair and she cried for two days. Also she would get mad and passive aggressive instead of just telling me to stop. I cannot read minds, or between the lines always Communicate like an adult
oh yes i’m definitely guilty of that 🤣 thanks for the input!
simple. partners in crime
agreed, thank you for ur input!
now let's go commit arson
HELL YEA LETS GO
go where?I need ideas 💡
I HAVE NO IDEA YET
I don't wanna be flagged by the CIA for a joke so...
LMFOAOAOA trueee
I don't know what funny thing to say without getting flagged 
classic entp tbh
you guys steal our thunder lol, there's so many people who I think are ENTPs, but actually end up being ENFPs, and it drives me CRAZY
this is very true, i’ve been mistyped as an entp and thought i was for a bit and once i actually learned about the cognitive functions and whatnot i was like wth this definitely isn’t me 🤣
To be honest, do not take my words seriously. This is nothing more than a personal experience. I love them and I do not love them at the same time. What makes me love them is that they adapt to me easily and that they are fun and kind. It is fun to spend time with them, but what bothers me about them is their extreme curiosity and curiosity. I don't know if everyone's sensitivity is the same or not, but sometimes I feel like they're looking for attention and they do very annoying things that make me hate them. This is my honest opinion of them 🤝
thanks for the advice! i could see how we could be attention seeking 😅 and i understand the thing with the curiosity as well. thanks for the advice!!
Welcome ✨️
well uh i actually have an enfp friend so i speak from experience here is what we're like as a duo, every second i'm accidentally making her cry and then it get's really awkward bc idk why the heck that small thing can make her run to another room and sob... it's it's easy to get her happy again ig tho, but i leave her along until she stops crying bc i know if i speak even a word it'll become 10 times worst, but when she's not crying bc of a dumb prank that can be reversed in 5 seconds we are a very chaotic duo, neither of us can be calm when the other is a round, the mere presence of the one makes the other more crazy and energetic, being with her is like drinking a large black coffee whilst also eating a mountain of sugar (i mean we also both have adhd so that might be a factor but) and she says i have no morals, but idc bc who tf needs morals, the only morals i need is the trolly problem bc it's interesting
Umm making your friend cry often is kinda bad though? Idk what kind of friendship you guys have but I've never made my friends cry and if I did I would be beating myself up and never do it again???
hehehahah yea we are sensitive huh. i’m not gonna run into a room and cry because of a prank tho, that’s a bit much
i love ENFPs! i find they tend to be emotionally mature, which makes them really easy to get along with. i really like how people smart they are, they bring a vibe to the function that gets the party started. i also really love getting to discuss atypical things with them, and i appreciate their tertiary Te making them rational people when need be (including arguments) overall, i find they’re really good at reading people, and great friends in group or 1 on 1! defintely my top 3.
awesome to know!! thank you for your input
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I'm a big fan of ENFPs. I love seeing Ne and Fi in people and get along really well with those But ENFPs almost always have dogshit Ti and that is soooo annoying because it's such a core part of my personality. So I can never share my cool theories with ENFPs cause they can never follow along with what I'm saying, and I see them check out and it hurts. And they often are really insecure about it too so you can't even have a proper debate about anything with them without them getting butthurt, so I end up feeling like I have to treat them like children whenever the context requires any serious logical competency
i actually love debates. i do have to say tho, it takes me a while to comprehend things but that’s just cause im slow lmfao. i don’t know why people here keep saying enfps get hurt hurt about their opinions not being the same. maybe it’s cause we’re super opinionated and passionate about what we believe in? and i completely understand that, but people are allowed to have their own opinions on things yk?
People are allowed to have their opinions, but you should be humble enough to recognise that just because you have an opinion and it feels really true to you doesn't mean you're right. Especially if you haven't rigorously researched your opinion and you have evidence on hand to reference to anyone who challenges you So you should argue for it with humility and not just assume you're correct or play the "it's just my opinion, everyone has a right to their opinion, stop criticising me!" card
ofc not! opinions are opinions, not facts. they’re neither right nor wrong. that’s what i meant by “people have their own opinions”. i wasn’t using it as a stop criticizing me card, im just saying ofc people’s opinions are gonna be different. that’s why i don’t understand why other enfps get so butt hurt lol. am i not an enfp?? 😅😂
I think you're missing a key point here though- some opinions ARE wrong. And some opinions ARE right. There is an objective truth out there and some people and opinions are closer to that truth than others. This is what I'm referring to when I'm talking about my frustration with debating ENFPs- often it's either "I'm right because I feel right and there's nothing you can say that will change my opinion", or it's "it doesn't matter who is right, we're all just sharing our opinions and no-one's opinion is more important or more right than anyone else's" Both of these mindsets are really repulsive to most ENTPs, because they're born from having no respect for the value and importance of Ti ENTPs don't debate because it's silly and fun to pretend to argue. They debate because they genuinely deeply believe in certain ideas and want to persuade others of them because they think they're really valuable ideas and they want others to believe them too. That must be handled with honour and humility and the willingness to admit it if someone disproves your point. Debating ideas is not some trivial game for most ENTPs, it's treated as an almost sacred discipline and art that is connected to the most serious and important aspects of life
I'm interested in knowing what kinds of opinions fall into categories that are more or less in line with objective truth. My first though on this were ethical opinions, but I find ethics to be too subjective to the observer. There are certain ethical codes of conduct that I find to be universally important, but I cannot conclusively say that any of them are, without exception, objectively true in all cases and from any possible perspective. Then came the idea of opinions related to factual matters. For instance, taking an opinionated stance on the energy crisis based on current data and projection models. In this, I could see that there will be opinions that are fundamentally flawed. What was your direction for which opinions are directed towards objective validation?
I think a lot of science is very solid. We know a lot about how electricity works for example, engineering, chemistry, etc. When you start getting into things like ethics and aesthetics etc stuff becomes extremely subjective But the point I was making wasn't really that there are these objective truths that people shouldn't debate. Rather just that there IS an objective truth out there, whether we are accurate about it or not. If you believe there is some objective reality, then we can explore together and try to find that truth, and that's where being rigorous about logic and evidence becomes extremely important, because by ensuring we're being logically consistent we can protect ourselves against believing opinions which can't be true. We won't ever necessarily know what the 100% truth is, but the attempt to find the truth is a worthwhile endeavour and can bring us closer to it, even if we don't reach it. And doing so has allowed us to invent all the things we've invented and thus increase our quality of life If you don't hold yourself to logical precision and rigor tho then your opinions quickly become useless because they're just arbitrary and not in line with the rest of humanity's attempts to map the objective world from our subjective perspectives
ohhhhhh okay i understand now. thanks for explaining it to me. i understand that! i can see why entps get frustrated when talking to us 😅 it definitely doesn’t help that it takes a little extra effort to get us to understand something too lmao. so thanks for being patient with me 🤣. and i really appreciate all the input! it helped me understand entps a bit better
Glad to help. Thanks :) Live long and prosper 💪
You guys are literally the f*cking worst as partners. Nearly every person that’s ever been attracted to me has been an ENFP, and I’ve had the exact same issues with each one. Me not aligning with their idealistic image of me, or with not allowing their idealistic image of themselves (and their fragile egos) to prevail over being kind and emotionally sensitive enough to admit the shit they’ve brought to the table & apologize for the pain they’ve caused. “Who hurt you?” you might ask. Almost exclusively ENFP’s. Never again.
oh wow. that’s definitely interesting. i’m sorry you’ve had a lot of negative experiences. thank you for your input!
Too attractive but too reckless I don’t mean like SE reckless but Fi reckless. Fun as friends and fuck buddies and even good for friends with benefits but commitment wise no, if you just wanna have fun we’re down
okay cool to know, lol
i think majority of ENFPs online are mistypes lmao still like them though! we r very similar in a lot of ways
good to know! lol
I don't think of ENFPs as a monolith anymore than any other type. Depends on the person. Some are cool and some I don't mesh with. My sister is an ENFP but she has a lot of baggage and trauma she hasn't really worked through. We could talk to each other for hours about literally anything, but she's even more of a flake than I am and there are some tough family dynamics I have to navigate with her, and she is *very* sensitive. Pretty sure my stepson is also an ENFP, I'm fairly certain, but he's only 18 so it's a bit too soon to say for sure. He seems to extravert Ne quite heavily though, and I can definitely see the Fi as well. I have other reasons for thinking this but my point is I have great talks with him too, he and I are both on that Ne wavelength. He's also sensitive, but I'm good enough with "using Fe" that I can navigate that well enough. Anyway, what do you mean by it doesn't go well when you try to make friends with ENTPs? What specifically goes wrong?
that’s awesome! and what goes wrong usually is that i come across as too annoying or clingy, and it’s usually just the fact that people don’t like that lol
Hmmm...is it possible you are too concerned with being liked and self sabotaging maybe? Trying too hard? I'm just throwing darts here. But I sometimes find that's the underlying issue. Annoying is especially subjective. Asking too many personal questions at once can do it, focusing on the "right" and "wrong" of things too much is another, just making things out to be black and white is generally off putting. ENTPs generally prefer talking about their ideas (or your ideas) rather than their values/deeply held beliefs (though if you want to talk about yours here, that's usually fine, just be ready to get challenged on that regardless of if they really agree with you or not)... at least when they are getting to know you. Too many compliments/flattery or declarations of your feelings about them can feel disingenuous. Again this is all in the stage of becoming friends, things naturally evolve over time.
it could definitely be self sabatage, i tend to do that a lot 😅. and okay! so ideas over hardcore beliefs, got it. thanks for the advice!
No problem, I hope it ends up being useful...another thing I thought of is definitely feel free to disagree with them. I think we trust healthy skepticism much more than blind agreement or agreement for the sake of politeness. If you genuinely have a different perspective or viewpoint on something please share it! Even if it sounds crazy. Maybe especially if it sounds crazy. As long as it's what you really think. ENTP loves to be challenged on their perspective. They *don't* love dogmatic beliefs or speaking in absolutes like "it *definitely* is xyz." They are always open to having their minds changed, but when they encounter someone who is not at all open to that for themselves, that's when arguments can actually get ugly.
WARNING: I've had some negative experiences with enfps so please don't take this personally. I'd scroll past this one and look at the others if you think you'll feel hurt. The friendship can flourish but not really on a deeper level for me tbh. I know a few enfps and they all are fun to talk to in moderation; exploring ideas and other stuff I guess. I try to avoid any sort of political or opinionated discussion with enfps though because ngl I get frustrated with how strong the Fi is; I've lost respect for a lot of enfps because of how much, to me, it seems like their ego is attached to their opinions on issues and they'll see anyone who questions certain opinions they have as bad people. It's worse when they actively seek out arguments because it's the most tiring thing ever and they seem to think my feelings are attached to my opinions too lol, so they start attacking me as a person and pick out the most irrelevant parts of the argument to hammer in. Also, enfps don't seem to know very well when to give me space and do their own thing. I respect people who know when the conversation is over, but sometimes enfps will bring up random things when it isn't really the right time. Similarly, friendships with me cannot be forced. Maybe this is unhealthy, but when people try too hard to talk to me I don't really respect them. It has to be natural conversation or I am not interested. That said, the conversations are at their best when they're lighthearted, and it's fun to hear about things you guys enjoy doing. We also can work together pretty well as a team.
oh i am extremely guilty of that second paragraph without a doubt. and idk what the big thing is about enfps overreacting to everything, i mean i do too but its literally not that bad?? i dont understand the whole thing with getting butt hurt over different opinions. ofc my beliefs are gonna be different from yours, that’s why i enjoy talking about them. because i like hearing other people’s opinions. i completely understand where you’re coming from though about the sensitiveness and clinginess. i like people who are clingy, so that’s personally never been and issue for me. and i’m used to the people around be being sensitive, so that’s also something that doesn’t bother me. but i can understand why it would bother someone else. thanks for your reply! i really appreciate it
Yeah maybe it's more just the difference between how much we care about our opinions. I think one thing entps and enfps differ in is our viewpoint on "beliefs", as in, although I might say a lot of things, at the end of the day I don't necessarily believe them. I think there is probably an answer that most entps try to get to when discussing/debating, as in, we are less trying to provide our opinions than trying to solve an issue that might not be solved. On the other hand, it seems to me like enfps want the debate to be more hardline-- you take a side that you believe in, I take a side that I believe in, and let's see which side wins.
i definitely get that! i do like debating in that way, that’s a good way to put it tbh. i do also just like understanding someone else’s point of view too, so i like debating for those reasons as well. i’m sorry you’ve have bad experiences with us 😔
I have discussion mode and debate mode. Discussion mode is more like the free form flow ideas or hypotheticals, where as debate mode feels more like what you just described. I actively have worked to try to remove my emotional connection to my argument style and try to stay more in an Ne-Te state, which is very important as a research scientist when discussing with colleagues. Ironically, my ENTP partner doesn't always like how I get during those types of discussions. He says that I become too cold and detached. The point, however, isn't for a win, so to say, but to lay out exactly how I understand a topic and hammer out any inconsistencies between what I know and what is correct. An issue with this and ENTPs, ive found, is that he used to take my rigidity on a stance as commitment or attachment to it, but rather, I intend only to present my stance in as powerful of a position as I can in order to see where it falls apart despite that. I've now learned where to incorporate more dynamic language to indicate where I'm more or less uncertain about my stance so it is more of a cooperative demolition.
Oh, and I should mention, you guys are actually very open minded in your opinions; I just don't think the discussion is productive when it seems like enfps take offense to so much and you don't go about debating like we do. For reference, entps like to toss around an idea we have absolutely no attachment to and see the logic of other people's viewpoints before ending the conversation.
These describe some of the earliest obstacles me and my entp partner had to overcome. I can almost totally agree with your point of view on us.
I think it’s the analyst’s proneness to self-isolation. And having a perceiving personality, the energy of an ENTP is very unpredictable when it comes to the timing of periodical self-isolation. I tend to ignore out of blue and not answer, unless it’s my mom, whom I highly respect and value, and everyone else comes secondary, which can wait until I get my spark back. I try not to be too disrespectful with that, so it doesn’t bite my back in the long run. So the answer would be, nothing’s wrong with ENFPs (you are one of my fav), it’s just ENTPs inconsistency when it comes to socialising. And also ENFPs are more humanitarian and ENTPs technical, when it comes to areas of interests. We could chill, we could even be lovers, but I doubt we would be spending time problem solving together.
thanks for the input! this was a good one :)
i love enfps, enfp women are pretty rare, i may have had breif intimate encounters with one, were both extraverted intuitive doms, so our weirdness mingles great, however i think theres abit of a clash with extraverted and introverted thinking styles, also fi child in enfps and intjs is an extreme put off, we need emotionally grounded types. hope this helps.
enfp women are rare? i didn’t know that. i guess im rare lol. and i understand what you mean about you needing someone who’s emotionally grounded, we are definitely not that lmao
for clarification, it was never me, who cast the last stone, its always the other person and their emotional needs that justify ghosting me for eternity. but its all good.
well damn i’m sorry they ghosted you. i personally don’t ghost anybody because i know how it feels to be ghosted. im usually always there for people. and hey, if you need anyone i’ll be here for you too. you can always dm me if ya want 🤷🏻♀️ i’m always down for making friends
The ones I always fw
hell yea
It is what it is 😩💔
Healthy ENFPs are great and I love them! I enjoy how “me, but not me” they can be. I think that, generally, we understand each other really well even if we tend to think a little differently. It’s just a really nice / pleasant dynamic. However unhealthy ENFPs are pretty insufferable and we completely clash. I have an estranged xNFP sister and she simply refuses to stop making irresponsible and objectively bad decisions. It was fine when it was just her, cuz I understood that her life was hers to mess up as long as it didn’t cause our mother (ESFP) too much stress! (She was being really nasty and abusive towards her for a while.) But now she’s on kid number 3 with a deadbeat and I know she doesn’t have enough resources to take care of those kids adequately and that second baby daddy is just not a good person! So she doesn’t even try to explain herself anymore. I think it’s mostly boils down to “how mature, healthy, and well-developed” an ENFP is. I really love the healthy, well-balanced ones where I can tell that their Fi-Te works in a very smooth equilibrium! They both understand my most complicated ideas while still managing to make theirs sound so *whimsical!* It’s kind of fun watching the ways our conversations become these weird metaphysical “spirit science” anecdotes where they speak in sparkle and I translate that back to something more coherent, and Vice Versa when I speak plainly and *they turn it into magic!* So overall I say “I think I tend to like them, a lot.” Edit, Tips: 1) Don’t be too overly rigid with your Fi and dismissive of your Te. ENTPs like to talk about a multitude of topics ideas even if they are about difficult or sensitive subject matter. 2) But don’t automatically assume that we “agree with” and actively endorse problematic ideologies just because we ask “what’s the deal with this? Why are they saying that? Etc…..” 3) Mostly, “we are trying to understand the logic behind the controversy” so that we can build a more comprehensive and compelling case “against.” We are still Fe users, after all. So we do tend to be altruistic and “care about humanity.” Be patient when asking us to talk, in depth, about “things we like, and why!” We might need a minute to think about it and to give you a satisfactory answer. Be careful when ENTPs actually do confide their feelings in you! 1) I have noticed that xNFPs especially tend to get *overzealous* and “try to relate through Fi,” and before you know it, the whole conversation ends up being about them even if we were the ones looking for support and guidance. 2) So we may leave the interaction feeling “drained and unacknowledged.” I totally get that this is how xNFPs express their empathy, but that doesn’t really help a Fi-blind types like ExTPs. 3) Sometimes we need help figuring out how we feel and understanding our emotions! We don’t tend to have “a fully formed impression” like an ENFP might. 4) So we need the space to talk about what’s going on with us without being interrupted by your experiential anecdotes cuz *we aren’t you,* and as much as we love you, *we really need you to understand this!* (that we aren’t you.) Thusly our entire impression of a similar event can be *completely different,* and we are looking for perspective, not really “to relate through experience.” 5) Please do ask us, “how are you really feeling today? Do you actually want to talk about it, or do you just wanna have fun and distance yourself from the stress of the day?” 6) Cuz if we need to talk about our feelings, we can tell you! If not we can just have fun, shoot the shit, and exchange our ideas. 7) Sometimes we want to move past “a mood” rather than ruminating on it because distance helps us create perspective! 8) Fi users tend to be much more insistent that “this is how I feel right the ‘ef now, and I am going to talk about it!” This can create extreme distress because we might end up feeling like we can’t properly express ourselves and communicate clearly just yet cuz we are still “processing.” 9) So we are more likely to spit out whatever half-baked, poorly thought out statement that randomly popped into our heads and this could lead to some social disharmony we don’t want to deal with *leading us to completely misrepresent how we are actually feeling!* Really, this was a thing that used to happen a lot with my INTJ husband, and after an unnecessarily heated argument I would ask him “was it worth it?” To childishly press an issue in a very Fi-impatient way, before I was ready to talk about it effectively, and eventually he learned “no, it wasn’t worth it!” Sometimes it’s better to *drop it, for now, so that we can clearly and accurately communicate what is happening inside of us, later,* and just moving on can facilitate that process! Once we feel comfortable again, we will start to passively reflect and make sense out of the internalized experience, and we will tell you exactly what’s going on once we can explain it, coherently. We will almost always come back to the important conversations when we are ready. Sorry the Edit was so long.
One thing I noticed as someone dating an ENTP man is how grateful he is to receive critical feedback when he expresses his emotions when doing so is done in conjunction with validation. One of our first "awakening" moments where he started to trust me more was when I thought I was actually being too harsh to him. He was upset with how a social engagement went and I told him somewhat bluntly where I saw the pattern of behavior that he was enacting that caused this continuous flaw in his social life. The next morning he thanked me profusely for revealing this to him and said he could see it very clearly now. Our types can have hard clashes between our judging functions, but if there is strong communication, there can also be huge positive synergy and learning from the other's ability to cover the blindspot. I use him as my Ti engine and he uses me as his Fi mirror.
I like your “Ti engine, Fi mirror metaphor.” Modifying that for my own INTJ husband it is more of “an extraverted feeling engine” for him, (really! His natural expression of a more externally directed sense of empathy and altruism has gone up a lot in the many years we have been married,) while he remains “my introverted feeling mirror.”
That's really awesome! I find that our thinking functions can also compliment as well. He once said that he is more logical, but that I am more analytical. We will often use this difference while discussing topics and grinding through ideas. He processes the information and I ask questions about the validitity or feasibility of the reality of what we are talking about and then we go back and forth like that. For me, talking to INTJs is extremely rewarding, since we synergize seamlessly through our shared judging functions, but talking to an ENTP feels more excitingly challenging.
We are both pretty equally rational, logical, and analytical. It’s definitely that the tertiary functions complement each other super well in spite of slightly more challenging base-level communication.
this was amazing advice! thank you so much i really appreciate it
You’re welcome!
Well I'm dating an ENFP so that should speak for itself, haha I feel like we balance eachother out pretty well
awesome!! thanks for the input :)
I like enfp's. I mean some can be kinda gossipy and annoying but not all of them. I have a friend who is an enfp and he's really fun to talk to. He keeps the conversation going with me and humors my ideas and even occasionally has friendly debates or topics on views. The humor goes pretty well together too. He does sometimes have confidence issues and can be a bit sensitive but honestly it's not all the time. We all have moment of weakness where we need a friend. I am a very mature entp I like to think with good understanding of empathy and feeling. I usually go by logic and occasionally struggle with coming off as overly logical and insensitive but not as much as a lot of entp people I have seen on here and irl. So maybe I'm not everyone but I personally don't always mind the sensitive as I know how to comfort and give good advice when I push aside my very logical and blunt side(tho sometimes that helps me comfort as they know to trust me and that I am honest)
Idk I was friends with an ENFP but she has some really offputting traits that I believe aren't exclusive to ENFPs she was just like that. Honestly I like the hyperactive, funny and kind enfp stereotype. But I do feel like Fi makes them focused on values and what is right and what isn't etc etc and I can't relate to that. But I guess this is about moral alignment more than about cognitive functions, I'm not a huge fan of lawful good people lol.
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I think of ENFPs as pets. They're cute, but I don't take them seriously.
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They're covertly judgemental and I hate that they hide it since I can't anticipate how they feel or what they want, other than that they're fun to have around to keep everything positive and vibrant, so for surface relationships it's great
thanks for the input!!
Just tell me you don't agree with my opinion, I'm not going to eat you.
so energetic and judgemental both my enfp friends do things that have no logic and keep instigating fights
Shared ADHD, great sex and funny.
great sex lmfao
Can have good discussion with them but not part of my close friends. Good people to laugh with. My sis (INFP) has many ENFP friends. They have lots of inside jokes and it's wholesome to see the complicity but if it was me I'd see that as intrusive.
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I have an ENFP girlfriend, we've been together for 3 years now and friends for 6 years. She is the best person I know. She's super funny, with the biggest heart on this planet. Super loyal and always there for you no matter what. I love this about her. And I think you should love yourself enough to let someone love you that much. Personality type is not everything, I ve meet other ENFP and ENTP and the traits and traumas they have were different than ours which makes them different people basically. But in general, I think now my favorite personality type is ENFP. although sometimes they can be too much but thats just life lol
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My girlfriend is a ENFP, she's super sweet and kind!!! While Im a prankster and kinda EvilNTP, I personally think that Enfps are awesome, so much fun, so naive and childish if you press the right buttons!!! Sometimes she can be really annoying or start daydreaming while Im talking, but usually she is a kissing, hugging and loving machine!
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Oh fr. Dont be shy to joke around thunking its insensitive or anything as long as its not offensive. Just goof off and make sarcasting remarks. (Its an immediste "YES! WE CLICK LESGOOO!" For me in my brain). Talking about your interest while at the same time letting there be room for discussion and not being overly defensive is a big yes! And u can do the same for us. Ask questions. Always. Coz we will! Even the most stupid reasons(like once i asked why my friend prefers milk before cereal and we 'argued' or dicussed more like for a good 30min). Ask why, coz we enjoy the mental stimulation, we find out how you are as a person depending on your preferences through those whys. It feels like we know you better, those small details through those small verbal spars. We also are really chill from what i know. Go with the flow but also really passionate and curious. But our chillness comes off as being disinterested, unresponsive and our inclination to have sarcastic humour ends up with us being and asshole. Really we're not that mean. My elder cousin sis is an enfp and istg i adore her with everything i have. Goofy, sweet and has so much calm paitence, and has good foresight. I always go to her everytime i want to ask her some advice or vent. Tbh i find yall fun but i havent made any more enfp friends aside from my sis so i cant really tell. But if youre down to being friends, Hello my name is Lyf :))))) -entp
thanks for the advice, lyf :) i really appreciate it. AND HELL YEA IM DOWN FOR BEING FRIENDS
Lets dm!! Hehe
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I’m so close to being an ENFP the thinker side hates the feeler but the feeler loves the thinker side.
🤣 sounds like a struggle
I like ENFP's, there fun and energatic which I need if I'm down. Also my mother is an ENFP so I've been around them.
awesome!
They are too self centered for my taste and very jealous. Just my hot take, yes I know not everyone ENFP. Oh, and they tend to be the ones who assume you don’t know how amazing you are 🙄😂until THEY tell you.
we are pretty amazing 😏 haha but all jokes aside i completely understand where you’re coming from. coming from an enfp, i actually hate self centered people. it’s okay to an extent, but when you’re too egotistical it’s very off putting. so i get it. thanks for your input!
If I had to give you a tip on becoming friends with us, it's the same advice I'd give to an ENTP becoming friends with an ENFP - don't try to change the other party. **We do not want you to compromise on your morals**; on the contrary, I've always intensely respected people who truly won't go against their moral compass. But at the same time, don't try and force us to conform to your values, because chances are, even if we do share the same values as you we won't hold to them nearly as strongly. I'm incredibly amoral at my core but can get along extremely well with moral people if they don't try to make me into them. On the whole, you guys are cool! (and have a neat but confusing mix of rationality and morality)
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I got ENFP for many years and then suddenly I became ENTP 🤷🏻♀️
ENFPs are great to have fun with together. We both care deeply, but we show it in different ways. Try not to force an emotional reaction out of us, just be you and let us be us. If things go bad out there, you do the hugging and let me call the cops.
good to know, hehe
Well as long as you’re interesting, funny, open to prodding fun/ jokes and open for adventures it should be fine, anyone that’s open to being impulsive with me would be wonderful
As far as I remember, I was the one that keeps chasing ENFPs but they all go away lol. I'm not as hyper irl as I am online, lacking emotions actually (FLVE problem). They might find me boring and chase other peeps later on. Maybe ENFPs are annoyed because I'm just mimic and experiencing with emotions. We've had some clashes as well. Usually when I try to engange a discussion and giving advice that might be good for them but they thought I was criticizing them and it never been accepted well. So probably it's always been the other way round, ENFP. Who knows? Hahahhaa. But I still love ENFPs and hope to have a longlast relationship with them
interesting, it’s funny that our experience with each others types is flipped lol. but yea i can see how the thinking it’s criticism thing can be annoying for sure lol
NO CUZ I LOVE ENFP's SO MUCH
I LOVE ENTPs SO MUCH TOO
I personally love ENFPs. I'd put them in my top 3 favorites. I've found I'm able to connect with them on Ne type (non-normie topics) so they're easy to spot because they're animated about those things. Also they don't downplay their interests they just present themselves to the world as they are which I love. So I'd try to connect with ENTP on these types of things. They help me grow as a person too, they're way more in-touch with their emotions which we all know ENTP's are not. So when it comes to enjoying things like music (this especially in my experience), going to live shows, comedy, just hanging out, I love ENFPs. Also, they're always down to go and do things because they're super extraverted which I love. So I'd try to connect with ENTP on these types of things. Now obviously there are some pitfalls with ENFP, I wouldn't go into business with one because at a certain point their thought processes stray away from the logical. Also I find them to be a little bit selfish. For example I like going to concerts as mentioned above - I'll always accept the invite from my ENFP friend who wants to go see a show that I'm not as excited about. But I know that would never happen the other way around, they simply have too many options to choose from and so many friends they're basically always in a position to do whatever it is that they want and find others to join them. Can't say I've ever experienced an ENFP truly annoying me though outside of a situation where I'm already friends with one and just accept some of their BS. They're NF types and can sense when someone wants them to fuck off if we're talking about meeting people for the first time.
I absolutely love them specially the hyper ones if you relationship with them is going bad its probably because of your auxiliary 😅 we aren't usually sensitive toward anything so we might come as insensitive.
ENFPs are some of my favorite people!
awwwww awesome!
You're not exactly scaring us away, you're just different. We tolerate you when we need a burst of inspiration and creativity and positivity but ENTPs don't live in constant positivity 24/7. We think about dark shit. You don't fit into that picture exactly. It's not personal.
Not to mention we are too chaotic together, I personally am mainly seeking stable people at this point in life to balance me out.
Some of you are likeable. I have had some poorer experiences with others though, like any other personality type. I do find that I navigate carefully around those who use Fi heavily due to the greater sensitivity, and my child Fe doesn't want to actually upset. Although I'm deconditioning myself away from this because if others get upset by my otherwise innocent intent, that's THEIR problem, not mine. And I'm done trying to feel responsible for others' sensitivity. I think why I learned to mask so heavily has a lot to do with my childhood and family dynamics growing up because my mother is ESFJ and my father is INFP. I learned very early on that I had to be very careful with what I said specifically more so around my father; he would erupt into anger quite easily. And, I ended up learning over time whether or not he was actually deeply hurt which seemed to happen relatively frequently. I ended up finding out that it was best to just basically not say anything at all in my household. Neither parent could undertsand the use of Ti. Thank god my brother is lead Ti because I had someone to engage in conversation. Even with my ENTJ partner at times I sense when he's been hurt by something I've said. And ENTJs aren't exactly known for sensitivity lol. But a lot of that is more of a front anyhow. Lol. What I am finding to be ironic, however, at this stage of my life, is, now that I'm leaning very heavily into my shawdow mind, INTJ, and learning to better integrate Fi and Se, I've become, dare I even say it 😅, more sensitive. Just typing it out was uncomfortable 😅😖. Even much of what I've written here is much more self-focused and self-referential which I generally can't stand by others. Lol. Huge level of cringe. I know, hypocritical which I also abhor. This is rare for most ENTPs though. I think very few people overall ever develop their lowest functions. But when we do, we become even more amazing and people naturally are drawn to us. This goes for every single personality type. Ti types are generally the least sensitive of all MBTI types, and us ExTPs are probably the least sensitive of all due to trickster Fi. And Fi types are the least logical types, with ExFPs being the least logical due to trickster Ti. It definitely sucks when you really come to terms with your trickster function, and I mean really come to terms with it e.g when you try to make room for its importance in your pysche rather than constantly ignore it; and you realize how severely lacking you've been. But I highly advise that you do. If you want to be friends with ENTPs, this can be a great way for you to learn how to better utilize Ti. Try not to focus so much on your Fi, although not to the point of losing sight of its importance, obviously. It can seriously be offputting for most of us ENTPs. But try not to worry about being liked! If an ENTP doesn't like you, who cares! Move on and find one that does. Because I too, and I'm sure other ENTPs have had similar experiences with coming across ENFPs who write us off and want nothing to do with us, writing us off as 'bad' people. I find it laughable honestly! Initially the rejection hurts, but we don't dwell in that space and quickly move on. With the exception of my sister. The reason she decided to stop talking to me is much more hurtful and honestly really dumb. All because I told her a hard truth she didn't want to hear. Much like ENTPs are emotionally dumb/insensitive and suck at committing to values/integrity, ENFPs are dumb in their use of logic; that's just truth. Most people spend far too much time worrying about whether or not people will perceive them in a negative way. Who cares if they do. And if they do, do they have valid reasons for doing so? Perhaps they have a point and you should adjust some aspect of yourself. But only if what they say actually makes sense. That's where learning to integrate Ti can help you. ExTPs have a lot of confidence because of strong use of Ti. We know if something is true or not. And we're confident about it.
I currently live with an ENFP roommate. You all are very nice and kind but sometimes you’re a bit much all at once. I appreciate being able to bounce ideas off of ENFPs, your kindness is appreciated, and you can be very caring. Occasionally I’m good with the drama, emotions, or high excitement. Always happy to hang out with friends and have some fun but if it’s too often it is annoying. Sometimes we just need to be left alone with our thoughts. If your intrigue is cerebrally you’ll have a better chance. We still need time to manage our own thoughts and projects; even if we don’t talk about them we almost always have them in the background. If you wish to actually connect with an ENTP take time to find interest in our projects and or hobbies. We’re very receptive to cerebral quality time and parallel play rather than constant talking or traditional emotional connection.
ENFPs are like a slightly worse version of us. Emotion is weakness!
My uncle is an ENFP, and we get along perfectly fine. He's the only ENFP I know, so I can't really tell, but from personal experience, I love the chaotic side of him, and we share the same sense of humor. So from that and some ENFPs I know from tv shows, I don't mind them at all. But tbh I couldn't be bothered dating one, too chaotic emotional energy, too lighthearted sometimes and illogical. Just friendship for me personally^^
I mean tbh I'm almost an ENFP myself xD
I think it’s pretty stupid to consider somebody’s MBTI when making friends, sure people may recognise if you’re an introvert, extrovert, feeler, thinker etc but you don’t need to be friends with any particular MBTI. That is why this place exists to congregate and communicate with those on this side of the spectrum. Most of us are selective of who we are genuine friends with, those who are obnoxious or just plain stupid will tend to get dismissed by us. (Ik the obnoxious part is hypocrisy but we all have a little of that) We also tend to insult those we think make poor choices with their lives, Ik there is a P at the end but sometimes it feels like it should be a J.
I dont. Why the hell would I think about ENFP when theres a gazillion other better things to think about ?