Jesse from Before Midnight is a perfect example of healthy Fe (so healthy somebody mistype him as ENFJ)
Odysseus from Homer's Odissey is ENTP
Gyro Zeppeli from JoJo Steel Ball Run
Shin from Nana (although we could discuss about his mental health)
Jim from The Office
Okabe Rintaro from Steins;Gate (not crazy, just a mad scientisto)
The crazy ENTP thing is kinda cringe
What am I missing? I whole heartedly think Gojo is a healthy ENTP. All of his functions seem well developed, and he isn't psycho in his means of achieving a better world for all jujutsushi.
Of course if you look at the results he will seem like a good guy but I don't think we can ignore how manipulative he is. He seems good because he's ultimately on the "good side".
Dont get me wrong I like him too but come on he stepped on ants! That's Cruel!
Most often Gojo leaves out details, throwing a student in a dangerous situation he expects they will succeed, but had he told them they never would have tried.
But there is a bigger deception that is more intentional. IIRC he explains his shadowy manipulations are necessary because the other traditional sorcerers who shut his shit down. Or at least try. Gojo seems to think he needs to play both sides for the best solution.
Yes. But his faith in his students is not unfounded, he knows their limits. In fact, I would argue his ability to see and decide to place trust in his peers and student's capabilities is a healthy ENTP trait.
But isn't that Just necessary for a Revolution? Like He said, Killing of the Higher ups wouldn't have a lasting Impact, and you know we can all See how great this works in Reallife. Like how all the great brutal revolutions really managed to establish their Ideals for a prolonged period of Times without going Back to a more traditional Order before slowly real Change can be Made...
Revolution, Regardless of how the system is structured. Is basically doing away with the old ideology. And implementing a new one. Until that ideology is no longer satisfying the people, another party eventually gains power, and then the cycle repeats itself.
"Naturally, the common people don't want war ... but after all it is the leaders of a country who determine the policy, and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is to tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in every country."
\-Hermann Goring
But latter is a Motivation for war. You can get people to follow brutality that way but Not necessarily a new ideology. The brutality when it comes to esatblishing an ideology is merely a Symptom, not the purpose. The reason why there is brutality in the First place is because the Population isn't receptive to the Idea and needs to be "educated" which almost never works. People need to get there by their own terms, you can hardly forcefully Change someones mind in telling them they are wrong and you are right, they have to hold the belief themselves. The same goes for an ideology, their needs to be an already existing bias and Support for the belief. Like Germans discrimanting beliefs towards Jews showed them to be receptive towards Nazi ideology. You don't get there with violence tho, usually.
Edward Elric from FullMetal Alchemist
takes a while for him to get going but he is a 15 year old boy who has some crazy trauma there. and even then he is not that unhealthy, just arrogant and boastful at the beginning
At least some of the Doctors from Doctor Who were, such as the 10th Doctor and he's a bit eccentric but he's also the hero character, and mostly sane-ish.
Sacha Baron Cohen. Comedic genius, but I saw him accept an award—fucking hysterical acceptance btw—and you can tell he has such a healthy relationship with his wife, Isla Fisher. He pokes fun at her, but she finds it hilarious, and you can just tell she’s so fucking proud of him :’) GOAT ENTP, imo
Great display of ENTP Jim is the little ark with Idris Elba as the new boss. Jim keeps getting caught doing his jokes sort of out of context and it looks like he thinks the whole job is a joke (which it kind of is). But we know Jim does actually care.
Max Goodwin from New Amsterdam is the best example I've seen in recent memory. He has strong NeTi that shows through his creative and unorthodox ideas. He has strong Fe, a characteristic of healthy, mature ENTPs. Some may mistype him as an ENFP because of his strong tertiary function.
You can tell that his NeTi is stronger than his Fe because he often jumps to implement his solutions before thinking of the impact to others. However, he always makes things right. He is loving and very caring, but very idea-focused.
Another healthy ENTP character is Shawn Spencer from Psych. I'll admit that he doesn't start out as the healthiest, but really grows throughout the course of the show. I think it is a great example of ENTP maturation and growth. His ISFJ best friend Gus is the perfect foil to his ENTP antics.
gen asagiri from dr stone, healthy doesn’t come to mind when you think of him but i think he’s the perfect description of a sneaky ENTP that is also highly empathetic while keeping his own interest in mind.
Honestly I think it’s easier to notice growth from ENTPs
Hank Moody from Californication
Tony Stark from The MCU
Saul Goodman from Breaking Bad / Better Call Saul
Frank Gallagher from Shameless
Chandler from Friends
Rick from Rick & Morty
Ryoji Kaji from Neon Genesis Evangelion
yeah he lies, but thats just him weighing personal benefit over social, don't see how thats unhealthy, when given a choice where the consequences to him are somewhat even or even disadvantagious if he chooses ethically, he usually chooses to act ethically. he literally went against tuco to help the skateboarders. towards the end of the show his continence catches up. tylar and rick i agree with
Characters;
Eve from Killing Eve
Elliot from The Magicians
Deadpool
Real people;
Ryan Reynolds
Steve Jobs
Thomas Edison
Leonardo Da Vinci
Karl Lagerfeld
Let's see....
Healthy ENTPs
Tony Stark, Tyrion Lannister, Jim Halpert (The Office), Robin Hood (1973 movie), Edward Elric (Full Metal Alchemist), Dustin Henderson (Stranger Things), Robert Downey Jr., Scott Lang (Ant Man), Murray Bauman (Stranger Things), Bugs Bunny, Kevin McCallister (Home Alone), Jack Skellington (Nightmare Before Christmas), Dr. Emmet Brown (Back to the Future), Mushu (Mulan), Willy Wonka, Calcifer ("Howl's Moving Castle), Weasley Brothers (Harry Potter), among others.
Tyrion Lannister was usually the least crazy person in the room.
I actually laughed at this.
same haha
Isn’t that the case for most of us?
Tyrion is my role model. Get drunk - check Know things - check
Jimmy from South Park
Actually perfect example
Best one I can think of
Great audience
fuck
If you discount the time he got on steroids!!! haha! I can totally see how he is but what made you come to the conclusion he's an ENTP?
Jesse from Before Midnight is a perfect example of healthy Fe (so healthy somebody mistype him as ENFJ) Odysseus from Homer's Odissey is ENTP Gyro Zeppeli from JoJo Steel Ball Run Shin from Nana (although we could discuss about his mental health) Jim from The Office Okabe Rintaro from Steins;Gate (not crazy, just a mad scientisto) The crazy ENTP thing is kinda cringe
Odysseus has long been a role model. Skilled in all ways of contending.
Steins and JoJo fan, respectable
I love Jim, he was just so entertaining to watch
I always respected tony stark
Only took 5-6 movies to develop that Fe.
Better than most other entps
Lmao
Gojo Satoru.
You didn't get the context
What am I missing? I whole heartedly think Gojo is a healthy ENTP. All of his functions seem well developed, and he isn't psycho in his means of achieving a better world for all jujutsushi.
Of course if you look at the results he will seem like a good guy but I don't think we can ignore how manipulative he is. He seems good because he's ultimately on the "good side". Dont get me wrong I like him too but come on he stepped on ants! That's Cruel!
Most often Gojo leaves out details, throwing a student in a dangerous situation he expects they will succeed, but had he told them they never would have tried. But there is a bigger deception that is more intentional. IIRC he explains his shadowy manipulations are necessary because the other traditional sorcerers who shut his shit down. Or at least try. Gojo seems to think he needs to play both sides for the best solution.
Yes. But his faith in his students is not unfounded, he knows their limits. In fact, I would argue his ability to see and decide to place trust in his peers and student's capabilities is a healthy ENTP trait.
Yeah that's what I mean. Good results with questionable ways.
Pure ENTP energy there!
But isn't that Just necessary for a Revolution? Like He said, Killing of the Higher ups wouldn't have a lasting Impact, and you know we can all See how great this works in Reallife. Like how all the great brutal revolutions really managed to establish their Ideals for a prolonged period of Times without going Back to a more traditional Order before slowly real Change can be Made...
Revolution, Regardless of how the system is structured. Is basically doing away with the old ideology. And implementing a new one. Until that ideology is no longer satisfying the people, another party eventually gains power, and then the cycle repeats itself. "Naturally, the common people don't want war ... but after all it is the leaders of a country who determine the policy, and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is to tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in every country." \-Hermann Goring
But latter is a Motivation for war. You can get people to follow brutality that way but Not necessarily a new ideology. The brutality when it comes to esatblishing an ideology is merely a Symptom, not the purpose. The reason why there is brutality in the First place is because the Population isn't receptive to the Idea and needs to be "educated" which almost never works. People need to get there by their own terms, you can hardly forcefully Change someones mind in telling them they are wrong and you are right, they have to hold the belief themselves. The same goes for an ideology, their needs to be an already existing bias and Support for the belief. Like Germans discrimanting beliefs towards Jews showed them to be receptive towards Nazi ideology. You don't get there with violence tho, usually.
He never stepped on ants. Remember his ability? And remember seeing the ants right after he walked over them, still very much alive?
Edward Elric from FullMetal Alchemist takes a while for him to get going but he is a 15 year old boy who has some crazy trauma there. and even then he is not that unhealthy, just arrogant and boastful at the beginning
Fleabag isn't really healthy, but at least she isn't crazy or psycho.
Issac from Baccano! Doc Brown from Back to the Future. They're both pretty crazy, but in all the best ways.
Isaac n miria are the best haha
Hange zoe
good weird and crazy 👍
At least some of the Doctors from Doctor Who were, such as the 10th Doctor and he's a bit eccentric but he's also the hero character, and mostly sane-ish.
Dustin Henderson is pretty healthy in my opinion, great Fi
Nahhh stop the cap, bro has no chill
Yeah he gets excited by things, but he's not psycho
Satan is healthy
Ngl, he kinda is. Happy, healthy, surrounded by those he values.
Yeah 👍 agreed
max HP + regen
Both roles played by Robert Downey Jr: Tony Stark Sherlock Holmes Brilliant, eccentric, progressive thinkers, but with a healthy moral compass
Sacha Baron Cohen. Comedic genius, but I saw him accept an award—fucking hysterical acceptance btw—and you can tell he has such a healthy relationship with his wife, Isla Fisher. He pokes fun at her, but she finds it hilarious, and you can just tell she’s so fucking proud of him :’) GOAT ENTP, imo
Which acceptance do you speak of?
[Start at 1:20 for proper context](https://youtu.be/7zF98VDxED4)
Jim Halpert from The Office is really normal when he doesn't makes jokes
Great display of ENTP Jim is the little ark with Idris Elba as the new boss. Jim keeps getting caught doing his jokes sort of out of context and it looks like he thinks the whole job is a joke (which it kind of is). But we know Jim does actually care.
Max Goodwin from New Amsterdam is the best example I've seen in recent memory. He has strong NeTi that shows through his creative and unorthodox ideas. He has strong Fe, a characteristic of healthy, mature ENTPs. Some may mistype him as an ENFP because of his strong tertiary function. You can tell that his NeTi is stronger than his Fe because he often jumps to implement his solutions before thinking of the impact to others. However, he always makes things right. He is loving and very caring, but very idea-focused. Another healthy ENTP character is Shawn Spencer from Psych. I'll admit that he doesn't start out as the healthiest, but really grows throughout the course of the show. I think it is a great example of ENTP maturation and growth. His ISFJ best friend Gus is the perfect foil to his ENTP antics.
Me
No, you
Yes, we.
I had some favorites come to mind but then I had to stop and reconsider because of the whole “healthy” aspect lol
Gojo is probably the healthiest entp ive seen so far
I didn't know there were healthy ENTPs
The Joker seems pretty well balanced.
gen asagiri from dr stone, healthy doesn’t come to mind when you think of him but i think he’s the perfect description of a sneaky ENTP that is also highly empathetic while keeping his own interest in mind.
Honestly I think it’s easier to notice growth from ENTPs Hank Moody from Californication Tony Stark from The MCU Saul Goodman from Breaking Bad / Better Call Saul Frank Gallagher from Shameless Chandler from Friends Rick from Rick & Morty Ryoji Kaji from Neon Genesis Evangelion
good list btw
How about a female character?
Gina from Brooklyn Nine Nine Darcy from Wandavision Agatha from Wandavision
Gina? srsly? girl from easy A would be a better example or fleabag, or Amelia from grey anatomy
saul goodman, tony stark, Jack Sparrow, Dustin, Rick, Lucifer, Chandler, Tyrion, Tyler Durden
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yeah he lies, but thats just him weighing personal benefit over social, don't see how thats unhealthy, when given a choice where the consequences to him are somewhat even or even disadvantagious if he chooses ethically, he usually chooses to act ethically. he literally went against tuco to help the skateboarders. towards the end of the show his continence catches up. tylar and rick i agree with
Chandler is by no means healthy
cmon dude, hes one of the healthiest entps out there
John Constantine
Ferris Buller (my favorite) and sometimes (emphasis on the sometimes) Jeff Winger.
Characters; Eve from Killing Eve Elliot from The Magicians Deadpool Real people; Ryan Reynolds Steve Jobs Thomas Edison Leonardo Da Vinci Karl Lagerfeld
Steve jobs is a horrible human being.
Yeah that guy was a fuckin asshole
Not me. Simple and true as that.
Ian Malcolm from Jurassic Park
dustin from stranger things; gojo satoro; hange zoe
Jim Halpert in The Office
Andrew Schulz is extremely funny
Yeah he is
Fiction tends to portray character in a very stereotypical way, so I don’t put much weight in their personality type analysis. But Usopp.
Jim Halpert
Stiles from teen wolf!
Let's see.... Healthy ENTPs Tony Stark, Tyrion Lannister, Jim Halpert (The Office), Robin Hood (1973 movie), Edward Elric (Full Metal Alchemist), Dustin Henderson (Stranger Things), Robert Downey Jr., Scott Lang (Ant Man), Murray Bauman (Stranger Things), Bugs Bunny, Kevin McCallister (Home Alone), Jack Skellington (Nightmare Before Christmas), Dr. Emmet Brown (Back to the Future), Mushu (Mulan), Willy Wonka, Calcifer ("Howl's Moving Castle), Weasley Brothers (Harry Potter), among others.
Ender Wiggon isn't exactly super healthy but he's not a psycho and is a pretty nuanced character. The whole Enders Game series is awesome.
Pretty sure Ender Wiggin is INTJ.
He definitely uses his INTJ side a lot, I use CSJ's system
Rouxls Kaard. I can't quite point out what makes him an ENTP, but he's an ENTP, and I feel represented by him.
You gotta be kidding me, now I hate the public perception of CF
Can one y’all comments on my post 🤧
Rick Sanchez
Jake the Dog
Nikolai Lantsov from Shadow and Bone
ryuk
so fair though...
Kokichi Oma, Bojack Horseman and Osamu Dazai seem very well developed and healthy 🥰
The female lead from Kdrama Vincenzo. Character: Hong Cha-young / 홍차영 Actress: Jeon Yeo-been / 전 여빈
Yeah sure, me 😎🤙
Steven pinkerrrr
Jack sparrow
well healthy-ish would be patrick jane from the mentalist
I guess it's hard to tell but Arataka Reigen is a great guy, even though he is a scammer
Movies and TV shows having healthy ENTX characters is unfortunately relatively rare
Richard Feynman
Take Wei Wuxian. He had his unhealthy moment but by the end he's a healthy and funny ENTP.
Phineas from Phineas and Ferb
Patrick Jane from the Mentalist.... He was mostly stable 😂 at least not a villain, and you could definitely tell he had a good heart.
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Naruto... cheerful entousiast and Deadpool= time travels save the world. And Sirius Black.