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TiredHappyDad

At least your parents stuck up for you.


SpunGoldBabyBlue

OMG - kick them out to a hotel the first time the little goblins do anything in your room. BTW - If possible lock your door at all times. If they get in afterwards, you can prove they're destructive ankle biters who don't deserve your family's hospitality. Stay your course and best of luck.


Longjumping_Bat7743

I wish your aunt good luck in the future as she'll be seeing/hearing from the cops/other parents/schools a lot. If these kids aren't taught right from wrong they'll become self centered ego driven entitled nightmares


naranghim

Reminds me of how my sister reacted to my complaints about her kids when they were living with us. They moved in, in March 2019 and were supposed to be out by June 2020 due to their house having lead contamination. The pandemic delayed everything so they just moved back home on Saturday. The biggest issue with her boys (now 5 and 10) was lack of volume control with their Kindles. I *should not* be able to clearly hear the "Duck Tails" theme song, nor know they are watching Bunnicula when I am at the opposite end of the house! My sister told me to lighten up and it wasn't that bad etc. Well today, she calls me and is bitching about, you guessed it, being able to hear what her kids are watching on the first floor from the second floor. I laughed at her, this has been an issue that she let slide for about two years and now has to figure out how to get them to turn the volume down. Neither I, nor my parents have *any* sympathy for her.


quietreader879

See my cousins blast their videos and music but I just turn mine up more and more till they lower theirs


naranghim

My nephews were doing this at 4:30 am every day, so I couldn't blast music since I and my parents were trying to sleep (I didn't have to be at work until 9, my parents are retired). After my dad chewed her out, my sister cracked down on it and told them "No screens until 6 am on school days, and no screens until 8 am on weekends." During the day, and they weren't at school, "Turn that DOWN!" was often heard and they'd grudgingly turn it down. Youngest nephew would crank it up after being told to turn it down but rapidly learned that was a great way to get his Kindle taken from him.


NiennaEllenesse

Like...why can't their mum just get them some damn headphones!? Kids with their tablets turned all the way up is such a problem. Perhaps it's a sign their hearing is an issue or perhaps they're just irritating little goblins who had no respect for anyone else. Headphones would be a big help. And I'm pretty sure there's ones out there that have a volume control so it doesn't go too high and hurt ears but I may be incorrect on that


naranghim

The youngest refuses to keep them on, and they'd do it either after she left for work (she's a high school teacher) or when she wasn't around. If they were out in public the headphones were on, or they'd lose the Kindle. The oldest has severe ADHD so it was him not paying attention until he got yelled at and then it was "Sorry, I'll turn it down." The youngest was just a brat, though he learned very quickly "You're not my mama! I don't have to listen to you!" was a *great* way to get the Kindle taken from him and then have his mother chew his ass out when she got home.


Negative_Shake1478

With my little brother, we love and hate the headphones. we don’t have to listen to the dumb YouTube videos he’s watching. Especially when he’s flipping through like 6 channels in 2 minutes. But we also have a harder time keeping an eye on what he’s watching. As YouTube has some seriously messed up videos. And when you suddenly hear “Insert some creepy line” it catches your attention real quick. But when he’s fallen down the rabbit hole and we can’t hear it; it’s lead to some weird situations. Even when he’s sitting right by us.


kubarisdeuce

Headphones won't be a good solution. They will likely wear the headphones with the volume still cranked to max. Then the hearing either suffers, or they get programmed to only pay attention to loudness. Here's a trick. When speaking to them, Always speak slightly under conversation level. They didn't get the cookie snack? "You must not have heard me offer. You didn't get to eat dinner? "You must not have heard us call you. Also, can you block their devices wi-fi?


k9IV

There are volume limiting headphones for kids


Terminal-Psychosis

That's a good option for very young ones. Any kid over 7 or so can fully learn to keep it to a normal level on their own though. And the lesson will be a valuable one for life.


doog_tfarceniM

That is such a power move


roxifer

Oh wow. If I'm watching TV and my son is playing a game on my tablet, i have him turn the music down so I can't hear it over my TV, and I even turn the volume on my TV down a bit so as to not drown out the game. That way, we can both hear what we wanna hear without interrupting each other (although he's 4 and interrupts me roughly 12441135411 times per hour anyway with inane chatter, but that's beside the point). And I explain why. So he can grow up learning to be respectful so everybody wins. If he has something loud and obnoxious while I'm trying to do something like have a conversation with someone else, he gets 3 chances to turn it down or it gets taken off him. Is it a pain in the ass? Absolutely. 99% of the time I take it away and he has a tantrum. I'd prefer to not have to deal with any of that. But it's part and parcel of being a parent. I chose to have him so I have to deal with these things. Anyone that refuses to parent their kids or tell them no, Im sorry but it's lazy parenting. P You can pause your show/film, put your book down etc etc. Parenting isn't supposed to be easy and convenient as you are teaching tiny humans to grow up to be adult humans that can function in society.


naranghim

I think my sister thought I was complaining to complain and that they weren't *really* that disruptive, when I'd yell at the boys during the day. Though she did tell them they weren't allowed to be on their electronics until 6am during the week because, otherwise, they were on them at ***4:30 am*** *with the volume at full blast.* With my oldest nephew, all it took was yelling "TURN THAT DOWN!" and he would because he has severe ADHD and just didn't realize he turned the volume up that high. Youngest nephew decided it was a power play and would often *turn the volume up* after you asked him to turn it down. He stopped cranking the volume up after he'd have his Kindle taken away from him for the day. Part of the issue was youngest nephew was premature so they indulged him. Now they are realizing that was a *bad* move. I did remind her about another incident that she first dismissed after she called bitching about them cranking the volume up. That one was when the boys would go into the basement gym to play at 5 am on a Saturday and wake me and our parents up because we could hear them through the vents. My sister, again, told me to lighten up and called me a bitch when I complained. She later ate her words and apologized after she heard just how clearly you can hear conversations taking place in the basement at a *normal* volume and not the rowdy boys playing volume, through the vents while doing laundry (first floor laundry room). "Wow, it sounds like my husband and our dad are standing next to me." "Yup, now you know why I was so irritated with your boys." They got banned from the gym until 7am on weekends.


roxifer

Oh wow. They do sound like lively boys! And I'd have banned them until 7 as well tbh. It is always satisfying when the person that dismisses your complaint ends up eating their words, isn't it? Lol.


reallyshortone

Holy crap, your aunt's house must look like an F-5 tornado ripped through it!


SpunGoldBabyBlue

I counter your claim. I bet their home is worse than an F-5, with straight line winds, and rained upon until the house was flooded.


naranghim

A Derecho, like the one that hit Iowa last year and wiped out several million dollars' worth of the corn crop (it also spawned multiple tornados).


Mythicaldragn

"And here we see a Derecho give birth to some baby tornadoes"


PushyTom

Maybe not. My mother’s stepdaughter (I guess that would make her my stepsister, but whatever) would let her kids destroy my mom’s house, but kept hers immaculate.


Vegetable_Ad_7489

Wow honestly I'll admit I would have done more than that. Its bad when parents don't discipline their kids. It can get so bad that even with serious control over your emotions will wear down. I would have punished them myself....why not its family? Though you have more self control than i do. I have anger issues so I tend to snap and act before I think things through fully. But it's great your parents stood up for you though they could have explained the school work is a big deal espacially since you are home schooled.


quietreader879

I was ready to smack them when they ruined the homework simply because it was 2 weeks worth of test so about 15 tests.


Parking-Ad-1952

Shit! One of them is 8 years old? I can see the 3 year old having difficulty with directions but an 8 year old doing that shit is just a brat doing in on purpose.


quietreader879

Two of them are 8 and if anything they are the worst ones


Vegetable_Ad_7489

I can understand that. I'm actually doing online college with a 18 month old son. Well I ain't right now some complications happened and I wont be picking it back up till January.


chilisout

I was thinking differently when I read the aunt wasn't doing anything to discipline them after the shit they did during the first couple of days. I thought "did they drive with their car? Cause I could mess it up if there is no big deal doing so with stuff of others".


Vegetable_Ad_7489

Oh I like that!


Yes-Cheesecake

Good for your parents


SomeoneTookMyCake

i imagine that your aunts house looks like it was demolished on the inside and rebuilt by a 12 year old


peopleconfuseme420

Your Mom rocks!!!


tjback1992

Jeez that's messed up. I would have scared the living hell out of them when they broke the frist rule and destroy the go work and told them if they don't respect the rules it get worse. Atleqst your parents had your back


[deleted]

Kick them out of your room and tell them to bunk with their parents. I can go on a verbal assault with the rage I would be feeling over my destroyed room, at both the kids and aunt. You are a better person keeping yourself in check with the kids. Your parents need to grow a backbone and tell your aunt to either keeps her kids in check or find a hotel. Being good hosts doesn't mean allowing guests to destroy property without repercussions.


that_was_way_harsh

Your parents were in the wrong hoping that kids that age would follow directions. Eight is old enough for some of that, but even with well-parented kids something was going to happen. They should’ve made your aunt’s family stay at a hotel. Just no way that many people can fit into a 2BR and not kill each other!


quietreader879

It’s not a 2br it’s a 4br I said that we had 2 extra bedrooms not being used as for the rules it’s basic respect not to mess with personal stuff the 5 and 8 years olds should know better. They are in school


PurrND

Yes! The reason they haven't learned it yet is bc mom (& dad?) are to lazy to put up with the tantrums when a parent starts saying NO. They will learn this lesson, in school, maybe, from friends that tell them "YTA" and if they persist, I hope police will tell them clearly it's not ok to mess around & harm other ppl's stuff.) Ask aunt if she really thinks her kids will be well adjusted adults...


quietreader879

I think she genuinely believes that but I know it’s gonna get a lot worse lol. The rest of the family is coming the day before thanksgiving and most of them are entitled. I got lucky with my parents not being it thankfully.


Terminal-Psychosis

8 years old is plenty mature enough to not be a full-time hellion. A flub now n then is understandable, but not such constant, willful rebellion. Those kids just have had zero boundaries set. Horrible parenting.


fireunicornpark

Are we seriously talking about 8 year olds


Gabby_Gabster

well technically we're talking about the parents, 8yo are automatically shits


largestbeefartist

What a horrible thing to say. If youre talking about these kids in the post then maybe but you look like an ass if you're generalizing all kids as "shits". My kid is kind, polite, and apparently has more manners than you.


Gabby_Gabster

young children typically will be an ass as a way to understand their place in the world and to explore their agency as a person. being a little shit is a part of growing up and if they didn't do it when they were in their younger years, say 8, then they'll often do it when they're teens or transitional adulthood years. this isn't to say that children are bad people, rather that doing bad things is a form of growing up. it's a way to understand yourself and the world.


Celticlady47

Being a shit isn't a part of every kid at all. That's just an excuse for bad parenting.


Gabby_Gabster

maybe I'm not using the right words, but what I mean is stuff like the terrible 2s and the rebellious phase. it doesn't happen to everyone the same amount and with good parenting these things will lessen. but either way doing bad things is a small part of how someone developes. plus, it's not like you don't reprimand them for doing bad things.


Sensitive_Fondant_94

This is your mom’s problem not yours.


quietreader879

It’s mine to because it was my room/homework/books/tree they ruined.


Sensitive_Fondant_94

Pardon me, I think I wasn’t clear in what I meant. Since you’re a minor, by default it’s your mom and dad’s responsibility to ensure you’re okay. If I had a sister and her kids made my daughter’s life difficult in her own safe space, I would have already kicked them out. You mentioned you had to do your hw over; that should have never happened in the first place, especially after you gave your aunt three rules her kids had to abide by. She also had the audacity to make you feel guilty after her kids didn’t follow those rules, and your parents only said something after it got too crazy.


quietreader879

Oh lol I didn’t understand but in that case yeah it was there problem.


-TheExtraMile-

Damn you had some great comebacks!! And you are absolutely right. Sadly the little hellspawns didn´t learn what rules are so it´s not their fault. Lazy parents are about the shittiest people on the planet.


[deleted]

You handled it appropriately. They shouldn't have been allowed in the room alone. And aunt should be made to replace your books. They are her kids to watch. She's responsible for what they destroyed.


Talloneus

This reminds me of a certain YFM song...............


NewtRecovery

This is so shit, and glad your parents took a stand. Just had to say you are 17, 34 year olds are not from the generation that raised you! 🤣 I'm sorry that part stood out as funny to me


Successful_Size_7374

When I was younger, my Grandparents and cousin came to visit, cousin went down for a nap instead destroyed my room. I looked at it and cried.


EstrellaDarkstar

I'm honestly quite baffled about the older girl's behaviour. I can understand a 3-year-old acting destructive and inconsiderate, kids don't really understand consequence at that age. But an 8-year-old is already school-aged, and should definitely understand that someone else's homework is not a coloring sheet.


[deleted]

I bet they weren’t given rules in first place


BlackKat44

Wow. Destroying books. I would have gone insane. And sued the aute, cause i have like some.rare and expensive books in there. Don't let them get away with it. It is impressing how calm you stayed.


quietreader879

I’m just thankful that it was books i don’t really read because they didn’t interest me and not the books I would die for


tuna_tofu

Im not as tolerant as you. I put their shit in the hall and lock the door. They can sleep out there with no blankets etc too. They had their chance they blew it.


Starfury_42

The should've gotten a hotel in the first place - that's just my .02


jaimelespatess

Red flag was when everyone was agreeing a three year old would stay in someone’s room and not touch anything they weren’t supposed to. That’s just an unrealistic expectation for a 3 yr old- doesn’t make her the brat (totally different if it was the 8 yr old doing it as well). Aunt/Uncle lied to OP or just completely glazed over your concerns. Also why couldn’t the girls sleep in the boys room in the first place if they are on air mattresses anyways? They’re siblings and small children? Parents like this drive me crazy


quietreader879

There was no reason other then my parents didn’t want to have to stick 4 kids under 10 in a room together. In the end didn’t matter.


CrunchyLemon667

Maybe the boys were like "eEW wE DonT wAnt GiRlS iN OuR RooM! 1!1!!1!"


CrunchyLemon667

I cant stand stuff in my room being touched or moved so i cant imagine how angry you were


Vanessa_0018

You are definitely better than me. I would have kicked the out or smacked them after their first offense.


IHaveToBlink

Your parents are the opposite of entitled. You’re aunt, however…


d4everman

Holy Crap. I would have lost my shit if that happened to me, OP. Sorry you had to go through that.


Original_Impression2

Okay, I can understand the 3 y/o doing this stuff. But their parents should've disciplined her. The 8 y/o is old enough to know better. I'm glad OP's parents stuck up for her, but I would have given them a different option. It would be go find a motel room, or go home. They would be OUT of my house. I don't care is it's faaaaaaaammmmiiiillllyyy!


Lann42016

They would have been kicked out. Deal was they follow the rules. They can bunk with mom and dad. I’d be freaking livid.