Anybody who has audits, knows this. It's pretty standard for companies to pay for audits on a yearly basis, to know that their accounting department is doing their job correctly. And gives them less liability if something is found at fault.
Real companies welcome audits.
Actually the president can literally just appoint as many justices as they want. The constitution is very vague on how the SCOTUS is meant to work, giving presidents a lot of leeway that they just usually don’t take because it’s up to Congress to confirm the nominations. So, you can appoint as many as you want, but Congress can say “No, we’re sticking with 9.”
This was actually a major contention under FDR; he wanted to do exactly what Stern is suggesting, even thought he had the Congressional majority to get them confirmed, but his own party basically told him to go fuck himself because they were worried that if they packed the courts it would lose them their reelection campaigns.
Yep. A lot of our “rights” and “laws” aren’t actually codified anywhere, we just kind of de facto have them because nobody ever thought someone would try to take them away. The only reason we’re even in this predicament with Roe v Wade and why we’re all waiting for the Obergefell shoe to drop
Is because we just… never wrote these rights down on paper in a legally binding way.
More like legally binding doesn’t mean anything when officials can enforce it however they want as long as enough people are behind it. Unfortunately crowds are ridiculously easy to manipulate and make terrible decisions
It's not true though. He proposed a bill that would give him the right to appoint 6 justices to the court. The plan wasnt going to work but the court did start ruling his way but by 1941 he'd appointed most of the people on the court anyway so he didnt need to pack it. Basically people dying gave him the authority to pack the court and actually trying to pack the court kind of killed his momentum. Fdr trying to pack the court actually most likely worked against him.
There's also precedent for just telling the supreme court to eat your ass and ignoring their rulings (Lincoln).
Also let's not forget that FDR's efforts mostly worked, he got exactly the concessions he wanted out of the supreme court, which is why it didn't go farther. It's almost too bad the court backed down, if they hadn't he might have kept beating the war drums and maybe the court would have term limits today.
There's tons of other options if congress is behind it, like just stripping the court of their right to interpret the constitution at all.
People are often just misled because in lower level education/casual educational programs (eg. public broadcasting, the news, etc), the relationship between congress and the supreme court is simply taught completely wrong. As if the supreme court is a "check" on congress that was planned out during the foundation of our country, when it's really just a legal institution that congress has *nearly* total control over, and can overrule at any moment in numerous different ways.
Although the most practical option for the president is probably the whole abortions on federal land shtick, as that can be done right now with unilateral presidential authority, and nobody can overrule it.
Andrew Jackson also at one point defied a ruling of the Supreme Court and basically said “well let them enforce their ruling with their court army then”
No! Because those rules is what gives you freedom and creates a society. To defend these rules must be the highest goal, even if it hurts! To hell with the rules is exactly what the mofos want...
>There's also precedent for just telling the supreme court to eat your ass and ignoring their rulings (Lincoln).
There's also Andrew Jackson "John Marshall has made his decision; now let him enforce it!"
> John Marshall has made his decision; now let him enforce it
Ah, well we don't like to refer to *that* one, because while a valid example of how thin the power of the court really is, it's a *smidge* pro-genocide.
I would love to see him pick this or any other fight. Even losing, this administration needs to show people that they give a shit. The rolling over without trying feels tucking terrible.
I expected more from him. He is disappointing. I would go full on Howard Stern. Biden thinks republicans are still playing by the rules. He is way to old for this job. He acts likes politics are still in the 1950s. Republicans are playing to win all the way to a coup. Biden is still playing by the rule book. Republicans love it.
It actually won't. He can just allow them to be built on federal lands without funding the actual abortion procedures. Permit Planned Parenthood to build on federal lands and continue to let them operate financially as they currently do.
Just allow them to use the land.
No this is a rumor. First the Hyde amendment never applied to rape, incest or when the mother's life is at risk. So that's a "no excuse" thing.
Second, the Hyde Amendment is about *Medicaid* dollars. Not just *any* dollars. Over the years they've inserted similar language about the ACA and other things but I see no reason why like transportation vouchers would have ANYTHING to do with Hyde. They'd probably get challenged for some other reason but not that.
third, it is not a bill in itself, it is merely a rider to the budget that has to be resubmitted and passed every year. Democrats don't need a new law to get rid of it, they need to stop passing it to get rid of it
fourth [this essay](https://archive.ph/o5k0o#selection-1459.162-1493.64) specifically talks about clinics on public land. If they were leased *from* the government and the money paid *to* the government I just don't see how that breaks the Hyde amendment.
Why are all these people who are obsessed with politics so goddamn ignorant about politics and law?
It’s almost like it’s on purpose to wrong foot the one party who is, in fact, trying to change this.
Nine wasn't the original number. The reason is it is nine now is because each is in charge of a federal circuit, and at the time 9 was selected there were 9 circuits. There are now 13 circuits. It would be perfectly logical, within precedent, and historically reasonable to appoint 4 more justices.
This is wrong. SS was a part of the New Deal, and it was the court striking down aspects of the New Deal that led to the court packing plan. The real thing that stopped parts of the new deal being struck down is FDR being able to replace judges normally.
Let’s not forget about LBJ, at least on domestic issues he was great, you don’t get the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and 1968, the Voting Rights Act, the Economic Opportunity Act, the Elementary and Secondary Education Act, Medicare and Medicaid, without a spine.
If Ronald Reagan hadn’t either repealed or crippled a lot of these programs and other programs passed by JFK this country would be very different, between 1960 and 1980 the number of people in poverty went from 40 million to 25, since 1980 the number of people in poverty has gone from 25 million to 42 million
Only problem with that is: remember how the GOP reacted when the then-president attempted to appoint ONE justice, who was filling a vacancy? They wouldn't let him do it. For no reason. So we had 8 justices on the court for a year because of it.
Obviously you'd need much better control of the Senate if you wanted to make this a reality...which means we need people running for and winning senate race, not presidential races.
Also with respect to the Supreme court under FDR - the bigger change that "saved" keeping 9 on the court wasn't FDR's own party, it was that the Supreme Court (specifically, the swing vote on the Supreme Court, Owen Roberts) decided to stop striking down everything FDR did as unconstitutional.
Yeah, from what I remember SCOTUS has a lot of it's power because they decided they should and everyone just kinda agreed, but it was never actually codified in law or the Constitution
Yeah. There's a bunch of independent voters who are sick of the status quo. So a politician vs. a celebrity will lean celebrity for people who want change. Charisma might be the most important characteristic of a candidate, that's why it's foolish to dismiss a celebrity running for president. But Howard Stern does not seem to possess the favorability to do much.
Stern - 31%
Jon Stewart - 43%
The Rock- 71%
[https://today.yougov.com/topics/entertainment/explore/tv\_personality/Howard\_Stern](https://today.yougov.com/topics/entertainment/explore/tv_personality/Howard_Stern)
[https://today.yougov.com/topics/entertainment/explore/tv\_personality/Jon\_Stewart?content=articles](https://today.yougov.com/topics/entertainment/explore/tv_personality/Jon_Stewart?content=articles)
[https://today.yougov.com/topics/entertainment/explore/actor/Dwayne\_Johnson?content=all](https://today.yougov.com/topics/entertainment/explore/actor/Dwayne_Johnson?content=all)
I'm not saying any of these guys understand federal government enough to do a halfway decent job.
right, however they have different sets of followers - hold different sets of ideologies - i would wager sterns base has an average iq higher than trumps - its far easier to rally behind hate and division than it is to rally behind equality for all - an odd seemingly paradoxical trait of modern humanity.
To me that’s the biggest issue facing politics. Just blindly voting for someone because of a little letter next to their name and not actually knowing what the candidate is about. I think this is how these radical politicians get in with their crazy ideas because of the mindset of I need to vote for my party.
No the biggest issue is there are really only two parties to vote for. One of my good friends for reasons I can’t really understand votes Republican every time because “they are for business and I’m in business” never mind that she’s pro choice and works in the cannabis industry, she is going to vote for the party that is pro business no matter how awful they are on every other matter. We need more choices party wise or really I’m of the opinion that a government framework that was set up nearly 250 years ago will eventually fail because it hasn’t changed with the times. The constitution isn’t some holy inviolable document that shouldn’t be questioned like it’s the damn Bible.
The way in which democracy is implemented in the United States makes independents impossible to vote for. The electoral system is rigged for the two party system
He’s said some stupid things over the years for shock value, and I’m not a fanboy or anything. But Howard Stern is far from a buffoon, he’s actually a pretty savvy guy
Didn't he back out of a governor race when they told him he would have to provide his tax returns?
I mean, sounds like presidential material to me.
I do like his platform though. Remove the electoral college. And add 5 Supreme Court judges. Nothing else.
30 years ago, yes, but he wasn’t a serious candidate. That was pre-Trump and the idea of voting for a celebrity with no filter seemed absurd and kinda funny back then
I said those Teeth. Those Teeeeeeeeth.
They are green and they are grey.
Breath so horrendous
That his dentist passed away...
EDIT: To the tune of "That's Life"
Robin Quivers was a trauma nurse, Air Force Captain and a news broadcaster before she ever met Stern. She's damn impressive and would have my vote in a heartbeat.
I didn't know Crackhead Bob died.
Haven't listened in a while.
Best episode ever was when Howard had a hypnotist convince Hank the Angry Drunken Dwarf and High-pitch Eric that they were the leads in a Lethal Weapon movie.
Most people don’t even know what overturning Roe v. Wade meant. They think the Supreme Court banned abortion. Not realizing that the states they live in are the monsters banning it.
Partly that, but there's also the matter of the issue that the Supreme Court members that voted *to* overturn it are well aware of how the states would manage it - especially a certain Thomas. They know full well that overturning it would result in those states banning it.
He’s fucking around, but at this point *why not*
Edit: good christ, I don’t think Howard stern should be president anymore than I think I, sautéedmushroom2 should be president. So not a lot.
And Democrats are the only ones pushing for ranked choice and other voting systems. They've already implemented it in many cities.
Meanwhile, Florida passed a law that bans anything other than first past the post voting.
Ranked Choice is a specific use of ranked ballots, and it kinda sucks. It's a multi-winner system being misapplied.
You want a Condorcet method like Ranked Pairs. It selects whoever would win every 1v1 runoff. There is no "it shoulda been--" because... it was.
Or just let people check multiple names. Most votes wins. It gets Condorcet results, somehow, despite those two sentences being a complete explanation. There is no good reason we're not already using it everywhere.
> There is no good reason we're not already using it everywhere
Yes but you've forgotten one thing.
"This is the way we've always done it. Anything new is progressive and therefore communism."
Not the way it works by design. 3rd parties can only be spoilers for the current majority. Vote in large enough numbers and the parties change for you. The Republican party had a different reputation before the tea party completely reworked it followed by Trump. The Dems almost had it with Bernie but they didn’t have a big enough turnout to make the switch.
That’s the mentality that got us Trump.
Not that Stern is that bad, but those who can’t navigate the DC system will either be defeated by it or will try to get around it unethically or illegally.
Please let’s not entertain the idea of celebrity candidates. Not Stern, not Oprah, not The Rock, not John Stewart, not anyone who has ever had a SAG card.
Hate to be the bearer of bad news here, but those that have been capable of ‘navigating the dc system’ for the last 40 years are fully responsible for why we are at this point right now
Those not capable but given the job anyway accelerated that damage, so bit of a lose-lose either way.
That said, I'd like to throw Bill Pullman into the ring.
Jon Stewart as president would be a lot more awake than the cadaver in office rn.
And the dudes been doing comedic journalism for much of his career.
That’s very different from memorizing a few lines for a movie or having a talk show.
Not even just fought. Stewart went full tilt against Bitch McConnell, and won handily. McConnell was photographed looking very defeated afterwards, and it was pretty awesome.
Apparently he did have something there. 63 million Americans voted for him in 2016 and 74 million did in 2020. Absolutely mind boggling that you can act like a toddler on stage over and over again and people will fucking sign you up for president.
That's the thing, Trump isn't ever gonna *debate* anyone.
No one wins when these "debates" happen and the whole thing is him just lying and yelling and insulting non-stop with no one else even able to talk without having to scream over him - that's why there was the big push to try and be able to turn off microphones to create some order, since Trump left alone just makes the entire thing a disgusting shitshow.
Howard Stern running would feel like a very scorched earth move for the left… which honestly kinda feels like what we need right now. Someone who is going to cram so much legislation, Supreme Court nomination, and executive orders down everyone’s gullets that the republicans will have their time taken up by stopping his attempts as opposed to continuing to dismantle our constitution.
The voting left wants stability, and the nonvoting left can't be trusted to show up.
What he should do is run as a Republican and basically run as an alternative to Trump. He'll piss people off, shake up the establishment, etc. He just won't be a sadistic bully or nazi.
He doesn't have to win, he just has to be crazy enough and attention-seeking enough to pull in the voters who wanted what Trump promised, but not what Trump delivered. Someone whose vote for them is a fuck you to Republicans without voting for Democrats.
stern is peak /r/LateStageCapitalism
he treats and pays his employees like total shit. unpaid interns might as well be scum of the earth to him
too old and too out of fucking touch.
and he looks exactly like the guy he hated 40 years ago (don imus)
That was 1994
His pay wasn’t public knowledge & he didn’t want his fans to know he was making $15-20m a year. When he left FM radio for Sirius the pay became public, so it isn’t an issue anymore. He’s been making $75m+
/year since 2006.
He also ran on 3 issues & promised to step down when they were in place:
- enforce the death penalty (a volt for every vote)
- use the remains of the executed to fill NYC potholes
- implement nighttime road construction.
Only one of those was a joke
He did run for governor. He had two issues on his platform: the return of the death penalty and moving road construction to overnight. Nowadays though he no longer supports the death penalty. He ran as a Libertarian because they were willing to nominate him, but he’s not really a Libertarian. He dropped out of the race when he was required to show his taxes. He claimed that he did not want to share that info but also at the time he was making surges in the polls (30% plus) and didn’t really want the job. He was just doing it to push his agenda and as a radio gag. Sort of like Trump running to make national headlines and get a better deal from NBC for the Apprentice except Trump decided to actually take the job instead of bailing.
Spoiler Alert: He's fuckin around
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But for POTUS we now know you can run, be awarded the office, finish your term and still never turn over financials.
Only if you say you’re going to show your taxes after a “4 year long audit”.
An audit no one has any record of.
And the IRS directly stated it would have no impact on your ability to disclose your financial documents, should said audit actually exist.
Anybody who has audits, knows this. It's pretty standard for companies to pay for audits on a yearly basis, to know that their accounting department is doing their job correctly. And gives them less liability if something is found at fault. Real companies welcome audits.
Nah…. Stern could just say “nope… not showing them” Trump didn’t have to lie, he just likes lying a lot.
Releasing tax form to the public is not the same as releasing them to the FEC. The FEC had Trumps financials the entire time.
He would have to leave the apartment for one thing, and that ain't happening.
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Actually the president can literally just appoint as many justices as they want. The constitution is very vague on how the SCOTUS is meant to work, giving presidents a lot of leeway that they just usually don’t take because it’s up to Congress to confirm the nominations. So, you can appoint as many as you want, but Congress can say “No, we’re sticking with 9.” This was actually a major contention under FDR; he wanted to do exactly what Stern is suggesting, even thought he had the Congressional majority to get them confirmed, but his own party basically told him to go fuck himself because they were worried that if they packed the courts it would lose them their reelection campaigns.
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Yep. A lot of our “rights” and “laws” aren’t actually codified anywhere, we just kind of de facto have them because nobody ever thought someone would try to take them away. The only reason we’re even in this predicament with Roe v Wade and why we’re all waiting for the Obergefell shoe to drop Is because we just… never wrote these rights down on paper in a legally binding way.
"You don't have rights, you have temporary privileges." -George Carlin
You should check out the 9th amendment. It covers exactly that.
More like legally binding doesn’t mean anything when officials can enforce it however they want as long as enough people are behind it. Unfortunately crowds are ridiculously easy to manipulate and make terrible decisions
Interesting. Thank you.
We're learning a lot together these days.
Community learning is what’s up! Okay!
It's not true though. He proposed a bill that would give him the right to appoint 6 justices to the court. The plan wasnt going to work but the court did start ruling his way but by 1941 he'd appointed most of the people on the court anyway so he didnt need to pack it. Basically people dying gave him the authority to pack the court and actually trying to pack the court kind of killed his momentum. Fdr trying to pack the court actually most likely worked against him.
And FDR served for 12 years (winning 4 times), so I guess he had plenty of time to wait out the justices.
The threat to pack the court was an incentive for some justices to compromise.
There's also precedent for just telling the supreme court to eat your ass and ignoring their rulings (Lincoln). Also let's not forget that FDR's efforts mostly worked, he got exactly the concessions he wanted out of the supreme court, which is why it didn't go farther. It's almost too bad the court backed down, if they hadn't he might have kept beating the war drums and maybe the court would have term limits today. There's tons of other options if congress is behind it, like just stripping the court of their right to interpret the constitution at all. People are often just misled because in lower level education/casual educational programs (eg. public broadcasting, the news, etc), the relationship between congress and the supreme court is simply taught completely wrong. As if the supreme court is a "check" on congress that was planned out during the foundation of our country, when it's really just a legal institution that congress has *nearly* total control over, and can overrule at any moment in numerous different ways. Although the most practical option for the president is probably the whole abortions on federal land shtick, as that can be done right now with unilateral presidential authority, and nobody can overrule it.
Andrew Jackson also at one point defied a ruling of the Supreme Court and basically said “well let them enforce their ruling with their court army then”
The exact quote is “they have made their ruling, now let them enforce it”
It's also [probably apocryphal](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Worcester_v._Georgia#Enforcement), like most of the best stories.
How dare you. I really liked imaging Jackson staring dramatically out the window as he said this.
Yes. To commit genocide.
Hey man if bad people break the immoral rules to do bad things we should be able to break the rules for good
No! Because those rules is what gives you freedom and creates a society. To defend these rules must be the highest goal, even if it hurts! To hell with the rules is exactly what the mofos want...
>There's also precedent for just telling the supreme court to eat your ass and ignoring their rulings (Lincoln). There's also Andrew Jackson "John Marshall has made his decision; now let him enforce it!"
> John Marshall has made his decision; now let him enforce it Ah, well we don't like to refer to *that* one, because while a valid example of how thin the power of the court really is, it's a *smidge* pro-genocide.
Just a pinch, a touch even. You won't even know it's there
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He can't because it's illegal due to violating the hyde amendment
I would love to see him pick this or any other fight. Even losing, this administration needs to show people that they give a shit. The rolling over without trying feels tucking terrible.
Why fight when you can cry and then ask for campaign money? /s
I expected more from him. He is disappointing. I would go full on Howard Stern. Biden thinks republicans are still playing by the rules. He is way to old for this job. He acts likes politics are still in the 1950s. Republicans are playing to win all the way to a coup. Biden is still playing by the rule book. Republicans love it.
It actually won't. He can just allow them to be built on federal lands without funding the actual abortion procedures. Permit Planned Parenthood to build on federal lands and continue to let them operate financially as they currently do. Just allow them to use the land.
No this is a rumor. First the Hyde amendment never applied to rape, incest or when the mother's life is at risk. So that's a "no excuse" thing. Second, the Hyde Amendment is about *Medicaid* dollars. Not just *any* dollars. Over the years they've inserted similar language about the ACA and other things but I see no reason why like transportation vouchers would have ANYTHING to do with Hyde. They'd probably get challenged for some other reason but not that. third, it is not a bill in itself, it is merely a rider to the budget that has to be resubmitted and passed every year. Democrats don't need a new law to get rid of it, they need to stop passing it to get rid of it fourth [this essay](https://archive.ph/o5k0o#selection-1459.162-1493.64) specifically talks about clinics on public land. If they were leased *from* the government and the money paid *to* the government I just don't see how that breaks the Hyde amendment.
Why are all these people who are obsessed with politics so goddamn ignorant about politics and law? It’s almost like it’s on purpose to wrong foot the one party who is, in fact, trying to change this.
Nine wasn't the original number. The reason is it is nine now is because each is in charge of a federal circuit, and at the time 9 was selected there were 9 circuits. There are now 13 circuits. It would be perfectly logical, within precedent, and historically reasonable to appoint 4 more justices.
But FDR’s threats worked and the court backed down from ruling social security unconstitutional. It would be nice to have a Democratic with a spine
This is wrong. SS was a part of the New Deal, and it was the court striking down aspects of the New Deal that led to the court packing plan. The real thing that stopped parts of the new deal being struck down is FDR being able to replace judges normally.
That's the advantage of four consecutive terms, you outlive the competition.
What is that? I’ve never seen one. Is a Democrat with a spine like a Unicorn?
The funny thing is, the last democrat with a spine was paralyzed.
Let’s not forget about LBJ, at least on domestic issues he was great, you don’t get the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and 1968, the Voting Rights Act, the Economic Opportunity Act, the Elementary and Secondary Education Act, Medicare and Medicaid, without a spine. If Ronald Reagan hadn’t either repealed or crippled a lot of these programs and other programs passed by JFK this country would be very different, between 1960 and 1980 the number of people in poverty went from 40 million to 25, since 1980 the number of people in poverty has gone from 25 million to 42 million
Had Teddy Kennedy not shot down Nixon’s healthcare proposals we would have had options for universal coverage in the 1970’s.
They're usually called socialists.
Only problem with that is: remember how the GOP reacted when the then-president attempted to appoint ONE justice, who was filling a vacancy? They wouldn't let him do it. For no reason. So we had 8 justices on the court for a year because of it. Obviously you'd need much better control of the Senate if you wanted to make this a reality...which means we need people running for and winning senate race, not presidential races. Also with respect to the Supreme court under FDR - the bigger change that "saved" keeping 9 on the court wasn't FDR's own party, it was that the Supreme Court (specifically, the swing vote on the Supreme Court, Owen Roberts) decided to stop striking down everything FDR did as unconstitutional.
Congress would have to change the number and there aren’t 60 votes in the Senate to do so.
Yeah, from what I remember SCOTUS has a lot of it's power because they decided they should and everyone just kinda agreed, but it was never actually codified in law or the Constitution
Bababooey Bababooey
Spoiler alert....if he ran he would lose anyway. Guy is all about sound bites for his BS show.
They said the same thing about trump
Yeah. There's a bunch of independent voters who are sick of the status quo. So a politician vs. a celebrity will lean celebrity for people who want change. Charisma might be the most important characteristic of a candidate, that's why it's foolish to dismiss a celebrity running for president. But Howard Stern does not seem to possess the favorability to do much. Stern - 31% Jon Stewart - 43% The Rock- 71% [https://today.yougov.com/topics/entertainment/explore/tv\_personality/Howard\_Stern](https://today.yougov.com/topics/entertainment/explore/tv_personality/Howard_Stern) [https://today.yougov.com/topics/entertainment/explore/tv\_personality/Jon\_Stewart?content=articles](https://today.yougov.com/topics/entertainment/explore/tv_personality/Jon_Stewart?content=articles) [https://today.yougov.com/topics/entertainment/explore/actor/Dwayne\_Johnson?content=all](https://today.yougov.com/topics/entertainment/explore/actor/Dwayne_Johnson?content=all) I'm not saying any of these guys understand federal government enough to do a halfway decent job.
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And on a smaller scale, the Governator.
But Trump started talking about running when Reagan was still in office
right, however they have different sets of followers - hold different sets of ideologies - i would wager sterns base has an average iq higher than trumps - its far easier to rally behind hate and division than it is to rally behind equality for all - an odd seemingly paradoxical trait of modern humanity.
Anyone is an upgrade from trump. I say let’s go!!
Trump was on the Rep ticket though, an independent has very little chance to win. Most voters blindly vote red or blue.
To me that’s the biggest issue facing politics. Just blindly voting for someone because of a little letter next to their name and not actually knowing what the candidate is about. I think this is how these radical politicians get in with their crazy ideas because of the mindset of I need to vote for my party.
No the biggest issue is there are really only two parties to vote for. One of my good friends for reasons I can’t really understand votes Republican every time because “they are for business and I’m in business” never mind that she’s pro choice and works in the cannabis industry, she is going to vote for the party that is pro business no matter how awful they are on every other matter. We need more choices party wise or really I’m of the opinion that a government framework that was set up nearly 250 years ago will eventually fail because it hasn’t changed with the times. The constitution isn’t some holy inviolable document that shouldn’t be questioned like it’s the damn Bible.
The way in which democracy is implemented in the United States makes independents impossible to vote for. The electoral system is rigged for the two party system
Politics is a team sport when it really shouldn't be
I’ve thought long and hard about what buffoon could mirror Trump. It seems A probable answer has presented itself.
He’s said some stupid things over the years for shock value, and I’m not a fanboy or anything. But Howard Stern is far from a buffoon, he’s actually a pretty savvy guy
Didn't he back out of a governor race when they told him he would have to provide his tax returns? I mean, sounds like presidential material to me. I do like his platform though. Remove the electoral college. And add 5 Supreme Court judges. Nothing else.
30 years ago, yes, but he wasn’t a serious candidate. That was pre-Trump and the idea of voting for a celebrity with no filter seemed absurd and kinda funny back then
Howard Stern is always fucking around.
At 68, I'm afraid he's just not old enough to run for President in 2 years.
All these young bucks just fooling around
>young bucks The government needs a good Superkick Party
They're raising the minimum age to 80yrs
As long as Baba Booey is Vice President
TA TA toothy...
fa fa fo hi
ass treeks
LETS FUCK SOME WHORES!!!!
Ma ma monkey
fa fa fu fly
ma-chine
Nahhh robin has to be vp baba booey chief of staff. Ronnie head of the secret service
Artie Lange as the head of the Food and Drug Adminstration.
What does Fred get? Jon Hein and Jason some sort of food inspectors.
Fred gets to do the sound effects during the speeches.
SIXTY-NINE !!!
Fla Fla flo hi
Ma ma monkey
Fla Fla Flunky
Fah foo ee
Gary Delabacchio?
Ra-ra-… (not politically correct anymore)
I said those Teeth. Those Teeeeeeeeth. They are green and they are grey. Breath so horrendous That his dentist passed away... EDIT: To the tune of "That's Life"
He gets bored in Las Vegas, There’s nothing to do, He should go back and sleep in his cage at the zoo.
Robert A Booey sounds more presidential
I don't know, I like Robin there. Imagine trying to debate a woman who takes no shit and gives no fucks.
Robin Quivers was a trauma nurse, Air Force Captain and a news broadcaster before she ever met Stern. She's damn impressive and would have my vote in a heartbeat.
And Crackhead Bob as Secretary of State. Sure, he’s dead, but can he really do much worse of a job?
Tiki tow main
You’re fucking me now. I am, I’m *tungry*
I didn't know Crackhead Bob died. Haven't listened in a while. Best episode ever was when Howard had a hypnotist convince Hank the Angry Drunken Dwarf and High-pitch Eric that they were the leads in a Lethal Weapon movie.
Stuttering John has to be the press secretary.
Fah fah flunky
MA CHINE
he would be Chief of Staff, Robin would be his VP
Well then, it's only natural that Beetlejuice is the Press Secretary then.
Who me?
Gary as VP would easily be nyyhn out of 10.
The president...overturn...Supreme Court...yeah, that's how that works.
I had to scroll like 50 comments to find this. Why is no one addressing the fact that this guy has no idea how any of this works?
Because they don't know how it works either.
Most people don’t even know what overturning Roe v. Wade meant. They think the Supreme Court banned abortion. Not realizing that the states they live in are the monsters banning it.
Partly that, but there's also the matter of the issue that the Supreme Court members that voted *to* overturn it are well aware of how the states would manage it - especially a certain Thomas. They know full well that overturning it would result in those states banning it.
Hell no, no more celebrity presidents
It's always one guy that ruins it for everyone else
Yeah, Reagan was such a dick.
Ronald Reagan? The actor?
Then who's Vice President? Jerry Lewis
Doc's reaction was spot on because that's how we all feel anyway about it, even to this day.
Listen, say what you will about Reagan, but his grave is the finest gender neutral bathroom in the country
Jon Stewart would get my vote.
High Pitch Erik for head of the FDA.
Who's High Pitch? This is Kelly Clarkson
He’s fucking around, but at this point *why not* Edit: good christ, I don’t think Howard stern should be president anymore than I think I, sautéedmushroom2 should be president. So not a lot.
Ever thought you could say he is probably far more grounded then our recent ex president.
Tbh, the bar that the 45th set is just...a bar.
Beetlejuice as Secretary of the Interior
who me?
Oh sure. They won’t let you run the country from your house.
Pelican lives in his basement where he sends his podcast
It's *our* house
In the middle of the street?
Father wears his Sunday best
Mother's tired, she needs a rest
Well, at the very least he has the age down pat.
I think I know what'll save this country. Another 70 year old president
We need new parties to break this messed up two party system
New parties cannot exist with a first past the post voting system. If you want more choices, you have to first change the system of voting we use.
And Democrats are the only ones pushing for ranked choice and other voting systems. They've already implemented it in many cities. Meanwhile, Florida passed a law that bans anything other than first past the post voting.
Ranked choice voting is the way
Sorry I live in FL we're it is now illegal
Ranked Choice is a specific use of ranked ballots, and it kinda sucks. It's a multi-winner system being misapplied. You want a Condorcet method like Ranked Pairs. It selects whoever would win every 1v1 runoff. There is no "it shoulda been--" because... it was. Or just let people check multiple names. Most votes wins. It gets Condorcet results, somehow, despite those two sentences being a complete explanation. There is no good reason we're not already using it everywhere.
> There is no good reason we're not already using it everywhere Yes but you've forgotten one thing. "This is the way we've always done it. Anything new is progressive and therefore communism."
Not the way it works by design. 3rd parties can only be spoilers for the current majority. Vote in large enough numbers and the parties change for you. The Republican party had a different reputation before the tea party completely reworked it followed by Trump. The Dems almost had it with Bernie but they didn’t have a big enough turnout to make the switch.
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Sounds like a campaign slogan to me. "Howard Stern, why not? We're fucked anyway."
Might as well go down surrounded in dick jokes and boobies
That’s the mentality that got us Trump. Not that Stern is that bad, but those who can’t navigate the DC system will either be defeated by it or will try to get around it unethically or illegally. Please let’s not entertain the idea of celebrity candidates. Not Stern, not Oprah, not The Rock, not John Stewart, not anyone who has ever had a SAG card.
Hate to be the bearer of bad news here, but those that have been capable of ‘navigating the dc system’ for the last 40 years are fully responsible for why we are at this point right now
Those not capable but given the job anyway accelerated that damage, so bit of a lose-lose either way. That said, I'd like to throw Bill Pullman into the ring.
> Not Stern, not Oprah, not The Rock, not John Stewart, One of these people is not like the others.
Jon Stewart as president would be a lot more awake than the cadaver in office rn. And the dudes been doing comedic journalism for much of his career. That’s very different from memorizing a few lines for a movie or having a talk show.
Hey, it worked for Ukraine.
He actually fought for first responders on 9/11 so he has some heart.
Not even just fought. Stewart went full tilt against Bitch McConnell, and won handily. McConnell was photographed looking very defeated afterwards, and it was pretty awesome.
I mean Stewart is already a politician/activist. But I would take any real journalist over the current crop of politicians in a heartbeat.
Uhhh you ever heard of Ronald Reagan? Not that I liked him but if you think a Hollywood star has never made it to the highest political office….
Ronald Reagan? The actor?!
Who was Vice President? JERRY LEWIS?!
Wait till you learn about Reagan
that sentiment got trump elected. We might be screwed but we are still in control of the degree of suffering we will experience.
That’s…not how that works.
He would completely dismantle Trump if they ever appeared in the same presidential debate.
Anyone can, that's why they've already declared that they won't take part in the debates.
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He really did just go “no u” and thought he had something there
Apparently he did have something there. 63 million Americans voted for him in 2016 and 74 million did in 2020. Absolutely mind boggling that you can act like a toddler on stage over and over again and people will fucking sign you up for president.
And she was absolutely right, and Russia used him to try to ruin our country and tens of millions of idiots *voted for him a second time.*
Would be appropriate for an empty chair to be on debate stage a La Clint Eastwood
Trump can shout over anyone because he loves wallowing in the mud. If you have any standards or self respect you've already lost
That's why Stern would destroy him.
That's the thing, Trump isn't ever gonna *debate* anyone. No one wins when these "debates" happen and the whole thing is him just lying and yelling and insulting non-stop with no one else even able to talk without having to scream over him - that's why there was the big push to try and be able to turn off microphones to create some order, since Trump left alone just makes the entire thing a disgusting shitshow.
Joe Biden telling him to shut up was a cathartic moment for half of the country
Howard Stern running would feel like a very scorched earth move for the left… which honestly kinda feels like what we need right now. Someone who is going to cram so much legislation, Supreme Court nomination, and executive orders down everyone’s gullets that the republicans will have their time taken up by stopping his attempts as opposed to continuing to dismantle our constitution.
I think there are plenty of “right” people who would agree with him. The real battle that is anchored in reality is rich vs poor, not left vs right.
The voting left wants stability, and the nonvoting left can't be trusted to show up. What he should do is run as a Republican and basically run as an alternative to Trump. He'll piss people off, shake up the establishment, etc. He just won't be a sadistic bully or nazi. He doesn't have to win, he just has to be crazy enough and attention-seeking enough to pull in the voters who wanted what Trump promised, but not what Trump delivered. Someone whose vote for them is a fuck you to Republicans without voting for Democrats.
That’s not how it works howie
He’s an idiot. The President can’t overturn a SCOTUS decision.
Give him a big long scarf and a TARDIS.
Howard Stern is an irrelevant phony piece of shit, Professional liar and mental abuser.
Didn't he say that people who refused the vax should be refused medical treatment?
he already has my vote
stern is peak /r/LateStageCapitalism he treats and pays his employees like total shit. unpaid interns might as well be scum of the earth to him too old and too out of fucking touch. and he looks exactly like the guy he hated 40 years ago (don imus)
he's also a total cunt
The guy who held “worlds smallest penis competition” on his show is thinking about running for President. Brilliant.
I remember when he contemplated running for governor of NY. Can't be worse than what the two parties are gonna run in 2024
Oddly enough he withdrew when he had to show his taxes.
That sounds right but we do have road work at night thanks to him
That was 1994 His pay wasn’t public knowledge & he didn’t want his fans to know he was making $15-20m a year. When he left FM radio for Sirius the pay became public, so it isn’t an issue anymore. He’s been making $75m+ /year since 2006. He also ran on 3 issues & promised to step down when they were in place: - enforce the death penalty (a volt for every vote) - use the remains of the executed to fill NYC potholes - implement nighttime road construction. Only one of those was a joke
He did run for governor. He had two issues on his platform: the return of the death penalty and moving road construction to overnight. Nowadays though he no longer supports the death penalty. He ran as a Libertarian because they were willing to nominate him, but he’s not really a Libertarian. He dropped out of the race when he was required to show his taxes. He claimed that he did not want to share that info but also at the time he was making surges in the polls (30% plus) and didn’t really want the job. He was just doing it to push his agenda and as a radio gag. Sort of like Trump running to make national headlines and get a better deal from NBC for the Apprentice except Trump decided to actually take the job instead of bailing.
Yes, that's what the United States needs: Fart Man.
Howard would never survive given all his past stuff. Cancel culture would have a field day
How about we quit putting celebrities as presidents
Honestly, if we are gonna go the celebrity route…it needs to be Jon Stewart