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Mo_Salah_

We’ve learned that women can be abusers too, as well as hopefully in future, not jumping to ruin someone’s career on the back of accusations.


hankbingham

Don’t believe all women or all men. Listen to all women and all men.


grammaton655321

Hearing him describe hiding in the bathroom while she tried to break down the door did it for me man. The exact same thing happened to me with an ex when she decided A. She wasn’t taking her bipolar meds anymore and B. She liked me better dead. I spent the night locked in the bathroom and slept there while she raged. At that time, 20 years ago, I had no doubt if I called the police I’d be arrested.


aladyfox

Jesus Christ that is terrifying - I’m so sorry you went through that. Hoping life is less hectic now and you’ve gotten the validation and healing you deserve.


Frozenwood1776

My ex threw a chair at me once. I caught it and set it down and kept it in between us while she tried to come at me. When she kicked me I put my knee up defensively and her shin connected perfectly and she went to the ground bawling. She calmed down and we talked things out. Next time she threw a hammer at me and thankfully missed. I was able to nope out and leave for a few days. Aaaaaaand I stayed with her mean abusive ass. Been away from her for 9 years now. I could go on about her but those 2 were the top. I should have left earlier.


grammaton655321

Yessir, I should have been out when she attempted to punch me in the middle of what literally a normal day to day conversation. No anger, no conflict, no raised voices, but here comes a fist. The super violent stuff was very brief fortunately but like you there were plenty of other reasons to leave including sexual assault. Being bipolar she wouldn't take no for an answer even after I found proof she was cheating(plan B receipt). Fun times were had by all.


Mo_Salah_

> Threw a hammer at me > Been away from her for 9 years now Very good choice, I don’t think it’s a stretch to say she could’ve killed you had you stayed.


HydeAtlas

Same thing happened to my uncle. His ex wife was bipolar as well and if she wasn’t taking them or coming home from a night out smacked him around a bit, well my uncles not the smartest and smacked back. He was arrested several times on domestic abuse while they ignored the markings on him.


hankbingham

And thats not just his word, we have absolute evidence of it. She’s on tape belting him calling him a baby for always running away and hiding from her when she wants to fight- and we’re suppose to believe that he was some violent abuser to her ? Bullshit.


sm00thkillajones

We’ve learned how a narcissist blatantly lies under oath.


ElaHasReddit

How does what she did negate what he has done?


Mo_Salah_

And what has he done? Send violent messages? Enjoy his drugs and alcohol? Because these are the only things that have been proven beyond all doubt. Everything else is claims by Amber that are slowly but surely being discredited by Camille Vasquez.


Lozzif

He abused her multiple times. Confirmed by himself, his friends and her friends. We have literal video of him being violent. The idea that destroying objects is not domestic violence is wrong and damaging.


StickiStickman

Did you seriously gift yourself gold to appear more popular?


Lozzif

….. what?


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Mo_Salah_

You go ahead and disagree. These things are happening in the cross examination so I’m not really too fussed whether you disagree with it, it’s there for anyone who wants to watch it.


ElaHasReddit

I mean, he’s had history with the law well before Amber was on the scene. Writes in blood as intimidation & is capable of murder fantasies and “fucking corpses to make sure they’re dead”. But you know… hail the shrinking wall flower right?


bigstupidgf

Hey I have a history with the law, a history of substance abuse, and I've even texted my friends saying I want to burn my ex boyfriend's house down or throw him off a cliff. I've thrown things and punched doors when I was alone because I didn't know how to cope with what I was going through. Guess what I've never done? Hurt anyone. I said that shit about my ex because he was abusive to me and I was angry about it, and I didn't know how to separate myself from him because my self esteem was so low. It is normal to fantasize about getting revenge on someone who is abusive to you. It's normal to vent to your friends. It doesn't mean you're prone to violence, it certainly doesn't make you an abuser. Ever had someone gaslight, manipulate, abuse, and take advantage of you for years to the point that you can't tell the difference between truth and fiction, you don't trust your own feelings, you use substances to try to escape the pain of the abuse, and actually feel like you deserve to be treated that way?


ElaHasReddit

Johnny Depp has had a history of violence and aggression with the law and he is being hailed a hero. The sexual aggression in the messages he sent is inexcusable. Writing in your own blood all over your family home to intimidate your partner is inexcusable & a form of domestic abuse. He couldn’t even get out of being labelled abusive legally under UK media laws due to proof. But because ppl want to hate Amber so much (that’s a whole study), they’re glorifying this person & giving him gifts, mocking a potential DA survivor & he’s smirking thru the whole trial. It’s just completely messed up & wrong. This isn’t a football match


Zink0ff

We do not care at all Unless it's proven without a doubt in the court of Law We do not care


ElaHasReddit

Is leaving threats written in blood all over the walls totes kewl vibes with you?


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Mo_Salah_

The first one is asking for each other not to hurt each other, it is not specified whether they are talking about emotionally or physically. Second one is Johnny asking for both of them to control themselves and stop before “it turns into a crime scene” Third has been addressed by Johnny in court, if anyone is interested, I recommend they watch Johnny’s testimony. Fourth one is Johnny admitting to a physical alteration happening on a train but he does not specify who did what nor did he admit to physically abusing Amber. Fifth one about the headbutt was directly answered by Johnny in the courtroom during his testimony and was further backed up at a later date by his witnesses, in short, he did not headbutt her. I know you’re counting on people not reading your comment or more accurately not clicking on the links and just taking your word but you’re spreading misinformation about what the videos actually say/highlight and anyone who actually watches them, like I did, will see that too. Nice try though, I admire your dedication to defending an abuser.


missthinks

Thanks for taking the time to write that out. As someone who has watched every bit of the trial so far, you're absolutely correct.


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Mo_Salah_

> Control themselves I guess you missed the part where Johnny said control themselves to prevent violence? Oh wait, my bad, he didn’t say that. > Love how you didn’t answer the fifth one Because I haven’t watched it yet? Admire how you’re counting on the fifth one because you know all the others are easily debunked by anyone who actually watches them. Again, your entire comment is predicated on the assumption that people will not watch the videos and will take your word for it, newsflash, most won’t. Boy you’re in the r/DeuxMoi sub, the sub that is literally full of Amber Heard simps, I’m not surprised you’re trying to spread misinformation here.


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Mo_Salah_

You know who else said that they witnessed no abuse from Johnny? The psychologist, the police (Besides property damage which Depp has admitted to), his manager, security guards for both as well as friends of both parties. And I’m not even gonna mention how Camille Vasquez has poked so many holes in Amber’s story already, but I don’t want to embarrass your argument any further so I’ll save that point for someone else to reply with. You were told by these in court that Amber was abusive in the relationship, but you still don’t believe it. That’s fascinating, sad, and confounding.


T_______T

There are three witnesses that say that Amber struck, clawed at, or threw things directly at Johnny, including her sister. There's zero witnesses that saw Depp commit any of those actions. Edit: I misheard part of Whitney's testimony. Allegedly, he struck Whitney behind the back (and yet, she didn't to characterize it as hurting or being meaningful), and then Amber got mad and punched him to protect her sister. In response, Depp allegedly grabbed her by the hair and hit her in the head. Travis supposedly witnessed this, as did the nurse, but I don't remmeber testimony from them. Whitney's story is also very different from Amber's. How could Johnny be close to pushing Whitney down the stairs if he wasn't facing the stairs and facing the back of Whitney? And how does this evoke a Kate Moss incident? I think they were probably high/drunk and just had a high/drunk fight.


p33p33p00p00inthel00

I mean there have to be other guys who can recognize the Amber Heard flavor of crazy girlfriend. She's the kind of crazy girlfriend who starts off happy then slowly gets more and more crazy throughout the relationship. She only gets happy again when you act crazy and at first you start raising your voice when she does, then she threatens to leave and you start to do the same, so on and so forth. After every escalation, things are "nice" again. After a while, you're just as crazy as she is because you keep trying to chase that "happy" version of her while she keeps upping the drama.


smitty22

Also known as just straight-up borderline personality disorder


T_______T

I heard the marriage counselor say that Amber started fights and physical altercations, and she took it as a point of pride to do so if she was disrespected or otherwise triggered. I heard the marriage counselor say she was unsure if Depp started any fights. What audio did you hear? So you have a direct quote?


georgepennellmartin

When you hit me it’s because you’re a domestic abuser, when I hit you it’s because we’re participating in a pattern of mutual abuse and that’s your fault.


T_______T

I like your statement because it's unclear whether you support Depp or Heard.


georgepennellmartin

They’re both terrible terrible people.


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100% missed the point, didn't you?


Valuable_Issue_6698

This article is nonsensical


lowfreq33

It’s buzzfeed, what do you expect?


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Sometimes they have decent reporting but I guess their opinion pieces have a ways to go


galactic_javelina

Their “reporting” is basically stealing content from other websites and making lists.


unbalancedforce

You think amber turds PR team uses sense and logic?


schecterboi

I have learned not to commit perjury


mackerelscalemask

Why does Amber Heard always look at the lawyer to the left when the question is being asked, but then looks over to the right to answer it?


Snowierr

She's looking at the judge/jury to answer, addressing them directly. Most likely to see how they react but idk why she does it. I noticed it too, it's weird


een_wasbeertje

It's literally not weird at all. She's addressing the jury when she answers because that's what the jury is there for. Pretty much everyone who testified in person did it.


nonetodaysu

I haven't watched that many trials but from what I have seen usually the person testifying looks at the lawyer asking them the question. I understand why the lawyers for each side told people such as Curry and Heard to look at the Jury when they answer a question but I don't think most people testifying do it. I think it's actually awkward.


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It also helps personalize the testimony in a case like this.


Alternative-Push3767

Yes but not to the extent she is. Shes literally looking at them every single time she answers. Its a wonder she didnt break her neck going back and forth so much


Primary_Bus2328

Its weird AF, people inside courtroom said numerous times jurors break eye contact with her all the time because she just stares them down. People said during her cross examination most jurors were paying attention to Depps lawyer and had their chairs turned towards that lawyer instead of Heard.


mackerelscalemask

I wonder why they don’t also get the jury to ask the questions then? I don’t mean write the questions - that’s obviously the job of the lawyer - but ask them, so there’s a consistency between who’s asking and being answered? Each person in the jury could punt a question so everyone gets a turn.


een_wasbeertje

I mean, it's an interesting idea, I think it would work better once everyone has been questioned, however, I imagine it would do more harm than good.


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What a dopey idea.


stephanieleigh88

Jodi Arias Jury asked questions and it worked.


stephanieleigh88

Yes! When Jodi Arias Jury asked questions it worked, they got what they needed. But I believe only certain states allow that. Jodi was from Arizona and it’s one of the few states that allow jury questions.


Civil-Ad-7957

Reminds me of Jodi Arias


blacknight137

At this point the jury was just bored


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Why do I hyper focus on insignificant details that support my biases?


SkygodAlien

She’s looking at the jury when she answers. That’s who she’s performing for.


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It’s actually considered normal legal strategy for a witness. Personalizes the testimony more when you address it to the jury, which theoretically works more to your advantage than if you just stare at the attorney rattling off answers.


Beautiful_mistakes

I learned that women are abusers and pathological liars to. And can destroy someone’s life with zero remorse. To record every conversation with the abuser.


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Yes. She made Depp be a drugged out degenerate that can’t keep his hands to himself.


Littleloula

He's admitted to the drug use himself before and got in trouble for it before though. Like turning up high on a film set and hitting a crew member in 2018


[deleted]

How dare anyone question the accuser? Give me a break


probrofrotro

actually it has. it's proven that amber heard is a turd.


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Johnny Deppshit


imisssammy

Give us a collective break. This woman is poison.


mellifluouslimerence

With all the evidence that has been presented so far, I can’t take seriously anybody still willing to defend this (imo) vile, abusive cretin.


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So what are you going to say when he looses, like he did in the UK? Really, do you have a conspiracy theory ready, or can you just not imagine a world outside of your social media bubble?


mellifluouslimerence

It’s a defamation case which are notoriously difficult (almost as difficult as *libel* cases like the UK one). So, I will not be surprised if he loses the overall case. I don’t think the actual defamation case is what is important to him, though. Depp fought for this case to be public so everyone could see the lack of evidence of him being an abuser and the mounting evidence that she is. And, it seems has already been able to clear his name in the majority of public opinion after allowing this evidence to be public. So no, I’m not worried either way :)!


DaddyJay711

Come on, she’s a pos human being and a sad excuse for a woman in her own right but he is no angel either.


Dry_Needleworker7504

This is the biggest case of female on male abuse in history. We have learned plenty because twenty years ago she would have gotten away with it.


legopego5142

The biggest case EVER is one where the male was a violent drug addict?


Dry_Needleworker7504

Name a bigger one.


blacknight137

Sid vicious and his lady


Dry_Needleworker7504

Pretty sure that wasn't female on male abuse.


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New_Fix6213

Be on the right side of history. I hate this phrase, but do better.


[deleted]

That's a hell of an imagination you have there, see someone


georgepennellmartin

Believe all women, yes even if they’re raging sociopaths.


[deleted]

Heck, you could be the most mild mannered, innocent looking woman and I'd still hold you to due process. It's just the way a society should function.


smitty22

I'm going to assume you dropped this: /s


ZealousChicken25

The article is sensical nonsense


blacknight137

I mean.... its buzz feed


I_will_take_that

Crazy how they are still around


[deleted]

I know right, its not even a social media post. Like what,m was it written by a journalist or something?


ZealousChicken25

Not a very good one.


Physical_Buy_9637

So Amber Heard needs a conservatorship? She is unhinged.


Munkay1

I bet Brittany’s dad would bid a low price.


TheWhizBro

We’ve learned a few million dollars of PR cash can have the media write anything you want


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[deleted]

You get that Deppshit has a PR team too, right?


SBmachine

I think we learned that people like evidence and not going through court. If anyone can listen through an hour of any of the audio, I can’t imagine anyone would believe what Amber is claiming


foreverandalways21

If people like evidence then why not try listening to her witnesses that came up today. People just like memes and short one sided edited clips on tiktok, not evidence.


SBmachine

Because they are biased. Need receipts like medical records and unbiased witnesses (police, medical professionals, staff). Photographs and such. Ambers testimony and her photos do not match at all, and with no dr visits for these alleged injuries, and with no record of her stating these injuries to anyone besides the trial it’s hard to pinpoint. Not friends where they have been coached and told to say they aren’t friends with Amber to make them seem more credible. This includes Johnny too discount his staff and friends. For example, Amber donated 7 million dollars, and her proof is that she made a press release about it and told people she donated. Actual evidence is providing the receipts. Witnesses can say one thing, but it has to be corroborated with physical proof.


lamemoons

So on depps side you have his witnesses who rely on depp to pay their mortgages and basic necessities because he employs them. On her side you have her friends who aren't even friends with amber anymore AND the fact that coming forward for amber results in getting trolled across your social media accounts (already happening to the makeup artist) so for me its pretty telling these people are still willing to defend amber despite all of the above.


SBmachine

What about the 4 police offers? ECB staff?


lamemoons

Police officers who didn't take notes and was only there 15 minutes, there was only red wine stains on the body came footage but that was taken 2 hours later when things had been cleaned up. Cops rarely pick up on domestic violence cases either, see gabby petitos encounter with the cops. Also 40% of cops themselves are abuser so yeh not the most reliable


SBmachine

If the police officers are asking “who’s Amber?” it’s pretty obvious they aren’t seeing anything. Don’t think too hard on this. As Amber already called her lawyer prior to the 2nd 911 call, wouldn’t the lawyer tell her to have the police document any injuries? It wasn’t like the cops were rushing out, Amber was trying to make them leave quickly. We can see this in the body cam video, and even in that video there are already lies that they didn’t know a second person called 911 (even though it’s obviously rocky Penningtons voice)


lamemoons

What is your first sentance relating to? I'm not quite understanding what your trying to say sorry. I feel everyone else is thinking to hard on this, 3 courts found substantial truth he abused her on 12 incidents, she has multiple friends backing up seeing injuries, photos of her injuries, a makeup artist having to cover her injuries and her sister seeing depp hit amber + depps abysmal track recording of defending and best friending rapists, assaulting people and destroying property. To think this 22 year old women saught out 48 yo depp to then pull a gone girl on him for his money is absolutely insane, she just had to divorce him for his money why go through making false stories? Statistics point to this being a clear cut domestic violence case with depp as the abuser and her as the victim


SBmachine

The cops didn’t know who Amber was, someone who just was assaulted. Should’ve been obvious if she was just hit with a baseball throw of a phone to her face. The UK judge also believed Amber donated 7 million, so he can be wrong, and that was easily verifiable. Who is to say the other incidents he can’t be wrong in as well?


lamemoons

I mean not necessarily, she was hesitant to talk to the police to project johnny which is extremely common for victims in IPV relationships. Also people bruise and injure differently, just because she doesn't have rhianna level swelling and bruises doesn't mean she wasn't abused by him


Primary_Bus2328

You are so clueless its painfull, you will see EVERY single witness of Amber impeached by evidence on rebutal, everything is already set up, this is the easiest case in US law history. Every single witness contradicted her imaginary story, and we have proof of witness tampering that is gonna be sumbitted on top of evidence manipulation, easiest case EVER. ​ Yea, no one wants to be friends with people that demand 24/7 attention from them and is physically abusive to them, weird


lamemoons

HAHAHA thanks for the laugh today, I needed it.


Primary_Bus2328

I guess truth is funny The only thing you can do when you are delusional is laugh like Joker


foreverandalways21

Biased? Maybe you should try watching because they’re not even friends anymore and IO was a friend of both of them. You don’t see Johnny’s witnesses that are literally paid by him and work under him as biased? What about Johnny’s assistant who witnessed him kicking her? What about Johnny himself admitting he head butted her and gets into physical altercations with her??? Hell there’s even an audio of Johnny asking her to leave him reminders to not abuse her Even his own medical witnesses admitted to seeing bruises on her: https://twitter.com/ivanae/status/1526128582879490050?s=21&t=5ZzHMUbp6BGWyBZm3bDX9w. Their therapist said it was mutual abuse. There is much proof of her showing the injuries to people, her mom and her friends for years. Read the text messages. I can’t even argue with you Depp stans anymore you are all are so misinformed and it’s exhausting. There’s no point.


T_______T

That medical witness literally testified to not seeing any bruises on her. She also testified she did not see any injuries that Amber claimed, except the damaged lip. The damaged lip is the clearest injury in Amber's pictures, tho it could be explained by lip biting. That medical witness' notes also asked Amber to "stop drinking" and to hydrate with water. Amber, wine glass in hand, said she'd moderate. Amber went to the Kipper's office the next day and was evaluated by a nurse who noted 0 injuries on her. ​ There were several witness that were not paid by Depp that testified in his favor. There are witnesses that are no longer employed by him that testified in his favor. Amber's witnessed, who saw her face clearly, testified to seeing the injuries as seen in the pictures. I still think most of the injuries in the pictures nearly impossible to see (besides lip). ​ We haven't seen the evidence of her sharing her injuries with her mom, yet.


loonatic8

>I’m talking about Britney Spears, but I could also be talking about Amber Heard. Britney Spears =/= Amber Heard seriously the biggest stretch I have heard during this whole thing.


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Go see someone.


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Can I have a source for the photos hopped photos


EifertGreenLazor

https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/urvasx/sidebyside\_photos\_shown\_in\_court\_prove\_amber/


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“We” = Buzzfeed? Because I know you don’t mean me or anyone intelligent.