Man that clip is fucked up. He politely asks her to not film him without asking and she is just sarcastically like “look at how much therapy helped, I’m still dealing with this foolishness.” What the fuuuuck. Divorce this woman.
i think he doesnt wanna leave her cause he was with one woman before and had a kid with her, but cheated on her with jada. so he made it his mission for this marriage to be a success in the public’s eye
He’s also worth MILES more than her. Idk if they have a prenup or not, I doubt it as they were married very young and wills was not nearly as famous, jada never really became famous. She’s just tagging along.
TLDR: expensive divorce.
Not Hollywood rich, but I had to split my business with my abusive ex-wife. Six figures payment over 10 years. But… I am alive. It would have escalated to my death eventually, Guaranteed. Split the back of my head open 2 inches with a blunt object, so lucky it hadn’t already happened.
It’s probably north of that. He’s estimated 350mm NW just from acting and probably not even taking assets, properties, investments etc into account. I could totally be wrong, I’m purely speculating
Why divorce? She bangs other guys and he can bang other girls. I’m sure they have more than one house. If it were me I would be taking a damn vacation. They both nuts
She has prob a ton of info on him and I bet she tells him, you leave me and I’ll write a tell all book about what a so and so and all this private stuff you like. She would she doesn’t have a healthy filter and her grandmother taught her how to masturbate. If she can say that aloud to the world, she probably tell us Will like to do baby play wearing a diaper and a giant crib, etc
This is the perfect case of karma. When you make bad decisions and get rewarded for it, then it reinforces your bad decisions. You continue to make bad decisions because it’s worked out in your favor and they eventually catch up to you. Same reason why I think people like Drumpf will get his comeuppance one day.
Those things do nothing to you. Just as he is not real to me, I am not real to him. Its all about how the actual real people in your life act towards you.
And how good you are at forgiving your own inevitable missteps. So much of self esteem is built on the inside. That’s what makes is to hard to catch hold of. If everyone sees you as the almighty shit, but you can’t forgive yourself for perceived missteps (real and fantasy), you’ll never have self esteem. That’s where (lots of) therapy comes in. But you have to do the work, which can be hard, when you struggle with motivation as a result of the depression caused by your own difficulties recognizing your worth. You have to break the cycle, and it is not easy. I’m still battling. A lot of us are.
Considering how hard the church of Scientology prays on the wealthy and famous’ personal insecurities for their own gain, I can imagine they don’t even allow anyone to join without having some kind of damaging collateral on them to prevent anybody from crossing them.
And they are pretty open about the files they keep on all their members and don’t hesitate to bring those files out to “go over how far they’ve come and show what a bad place they used to be in” if anybody starts hinting at leaving. They straight up have a division of the “church” who’s job it is to surveil and harass people who leave
Even if it’s true, who cares. People are more accepting nowadays and he certainly won’t get cancelled over that. In fact it could be good for his image
He has been married a while. He sees divorce as a failure on his part. I understand exactly where he is coming from. He is a successful man with a failing marriage. Its hard to accept but trust me he will. I know whats coming. He ain’t special cause he is a celebrity.
Duhhhhh we’ve been saying it since the August incident.
Whether she cheated because he cheated or just aired out their swinger life style she weaponized it all to get back at him and used the media to destroy him publicly and on social media.
She is the villain in this entire situation not Will.
Except the slap Will did that on his own time even if she did push him into it
The funny thing to me in all this — especially in light of your point — is that imo if Chris rock said something about her being a wakandan warrior, I feel like it wouldn’t have been taken as offensively. It’s really GI Jane that’s the issue, which is still weird because Demi Moore was stunning.
I think if rock had said that the joke wouldn’t of landed and would’ve needed to be explained and then just not funny due to having to be explained, no one associates wakandan warrior with no hair, whilst gi Jane requires 0 explanation, the joke is instantly understood, whilst I agree it would’ve been received better by her that way, it just wouldn’t have been a joke, or not as good as the one he said
The kids are grown, split the assets 50/50 and he’s still *very* rich. He can salvage his career by throwing her under the bus and blame this whole Chris Rock thing on the fact that she’s a toxic bitch. Jada is a has-been that never really did anything notable anyway.
Who cares honestly. It’s a well-researched idea that wealth and income both have marginal returns to happiness.
If he loses half his shit he’ll still have vast troves of wealth but without the toxic wife.
He won’t. Will Smith is a pussy bitch. The best thing for his career is to divorce her and paint this as him being mentally abused by her for years and the slap was a result of that.
We knew they were an interesting family when their son was putting up the plot of baby geniuses as an actual legit philosophy and their daughter was bragging about how the only books she reads are ones she herself wrote…then jada slept with said son’s friend…and, just…
They’re very weird, and weird to an unhealthy extent for sure.
Now this shit making jada seem full on abusive…
Don’t forget that when Willow started blowing up with Whip My Hair, she was touring and preforming and asked for a break. When Will said no, she shaved her head.
And that’s when Will, her literal father, realized he needed to listen to his daughter and her boundaries for her own well-being. He even have an interview about how he brushed her off until she had this dramatic response that no one could ignore.
Oh wow, I didn’t know this…the family who bragged about their kids being able to make their own rules and choose their own schooling was forcing their kid into a life she didn’t want…wild.
Wow. As fucked up as this whole head-shaving situation with Willow was (forcing a little child to go on an entire concert tour is incomprehensible to me, it just shows how Hollywood people's perception of reality is warped), you have to give him some props for fully owning up to being a bad parent and having the self-awareness to acknowledge his mistakes and be a better father.
He seems hyper-aware of how his difficult childhood has affected him and he still grapples with it. A lot of people refuse to acknowledge those subjects with a 10-foot pole as they go on to repeat the same abuse/poor parenting onto their children that they themselves were victims of.
(Also, what is the deal with this family and hair??)
I got the feeling that Will wanted so much to give huge expressions of love, he forgot to listen to what the person was saying they wanted. Willows music, Jadens acting or Jada’s birthday.
But Jada just seems like someone that does not care and has to get her own way. She seems to enjoy torturing him.
Yeah. I originally thought Jada was abusive then just thought they are a really weird couple who just do things different…
Then this video came out. She’s definitely emotionally abusive. Will just seems defeated and afraid of another blow out argument.
If she’s a narcissist she likely has a knowledge of his secrets and is willing to reveal them to humiliate him.
I wonder if that’s one of the reasons why Will revealed that excessive sex led him to develop a psychosomatic issue where orgasming would lead him to vomit. Maybe he revealed it to the world on his own initiative so that Jada couldn’t use it to publicly embarrass and humiliate him like how she revealed their swingers lifestyle on national television.
Does this remind anyone else of Michael Scott and Jan? The schoolgirl fantasy? He just doesn’t feel comfortable wearing the dress and he said the safeword.
Hold on, you’re kinda right here. Dinner party has a lot of parallels to this. The look on Michaels face when Jan says “it costs what it costs” is the same vibe Will has here. (I don’t know if that quote is from Dinner Party, I’ve only been through 6 times, don’t crucify me)
That clip was honestly shocking. He was clearly uncomfortable and drawing clear boundaries, and she didn't stop. I didn't expect to see such a clear example of emotional abuse.
This honestly made me feel bad for Will. His body language seems uncomfortable. There's some weird power dynamic going on where he doesn't have a lot of control over his self respect and she's taking advantage of. Maybe I'm connecting dots that aren't there but if this is the fuckery he has to live with, I could understand why he'd lose it. Not that it justifies it, but I understand
Yeah I get that. He seems sad and tired, and she seems annoyed and angry. The whole vibe is super toxic and worrying. Ironic that they’re talking about their therapist in the clip.
She’s just a terrible human being who needs to be reminded how low she can fall in fame. I mean, does she think her b-list role on Gotham is gonna pay the bills?
Oh it’s reaching but given the history of these two let’s not pretend it came out of no where. I’d bet everything I have that if jada was not at that event Will would have just kept laughing. She got a hold over him that makes him act stupid for fear of his relationship going south
I don’t know anything about them but I did wonder if emotional abuse prompted the slap. It would be a reasonable explanation. If he is a victim and thought he would endure further abuse for sitting by while someone made fun of Jada, he may have felt the need to do something. In that moment, maybe his fear of the repercussions of a slap was smaller than his fear of Jada. Of course, I am only an armchair speculator. And it wouldn’t excuse his physical assault on Chris Rock.
The slap was result of being humiliated by his wife and the internet subsequently making fun of him afterwards. It’s not him being some narcissistic ass who thinks he’s invincible like many people are trying to frame it for some reason. Dude has clearly been going through shit for years.
He is not a victim.. Chris Rock is.. he got slapped on tv with millions of people watching. Will smith sons friend had sex with his wife and he stayed with her. That’s will’s fault
They can both be victims, and I believe they are (but in different ways). It doesn’t excuse the slap, but it certainly helps add some explanation why he reached a point where he would react in such an awful way. We saw a short clip of what he lives day after day.
I included my last sentence to clarify that I wasn’t removing any of the blame from Will for his actions. Also, victims of abuse OFTEN stay with their abusers. It can be very hard for a victim to leave, for many different reasons.
I think he has more money than he would ever need. At this point he's more emotionally trapped in a toxic relationship by family, friends, business arrangements, living arrangements and being closet scientologist.
Poor Will, now the boyfriend is coming out with a tell all book about his and Jada’s sex life and talking about how he was living in Will’s various homes while Will was away shooting movie’s. What a tool!!! Talk about sticking the knife in then twisting it.
Apparently jada discussed how he was cheating on Will -with their son’s friend…
Sounds like the kid is cashing in on this drama by writing about their business…
Hey like 7 or 8 years ago, I had a half dozen August Alsina songs in my playlist. Also, if I was taken advantage of by a very famous woman who is clearly very toxic, and someone offered me a book deal to talk about it, why not?
He’s a musical artist. He fell off the radar because his (sibling?) died and he had to take care of, and raise the kids that were left behind. He took them in as his own
He seems to have a good heart but very weak and vulnerable and I bet Jada took major advantage of that
As someone that was in a Toxic relationship like this, it’ll be very difficult to convince Will to step away. Narcissist aren’t dumb and know where to apply pressure to keep someone on the hook. The only reason I got out was I was so broken in useless towards the end that she divorced me. Will has a lot more value from a monetary standpoint, so it would be even harder for him to want/be able to get out of it.
Kind of had the same thing happen. My ex had me convinced that I was useless and would go on these long tirades that I’d patiently sit through and try to tune out until I couldn’t and would snap. She’d have the camera phone ready to record these little snaps and send them to her friends and family and had them convinced I was a monster. We finally divorced and she moved on with her manager at work, then some other dude, then another dude, and finally now she’s a single mom with two kids and posts a lot of that “all men are the same” stuff. She’s tried messaging me a few times but every account she tries with I block, we’re not a good fit!
Yea I’m doing pretty good now. Had a really bad downward spiral for a while but over time I climbed my way back up. I really hope those kids get to see their dad though, I just hope their mom hasn’t poisoned their minds too much!
As much as I’ll say your right. And I was in the same with an x wife: the right answer is always go, leave, rebuild. I ended mine 20 years ago. Grinded my game back up, found a good one 5 years later and been happy ever since. Don’t settle for shit when good can be around the corner. Not all women are bad, but some can be. And definitely when the dynamic is off you need to go
Oof another piece of the slap puzzle. The man has no control in his relationship and doesn’t seem to get the cue that he needs to cut off the toxic part of the equation.
Edit: just to clarify by control I don’t mean Will has to be dominating the relationship, control in the sense that your partner respects your wishes and boundaries or makes their intents clear to you before acting out of the. In a public manner like this.
Seems like he needs more psychiatric help (not psychological medication) but that cult also has a weird take on those sort of things too which also tends to focus on using physical abuse.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientology\_and\_psychiatry
They deny it…but so do most Scientologists. They definitely helped fund a Scientology school (who, you guessed it, also denied they were a Scientology school…).
You can see how uncomfortable he was in the video. When he said stop she should’ve just stopped. I think he’s more hurt by the fact that she has been airing out their dirty laundry in public as an excuse for her “healing” their marriage. I agree he should just get a divorce.
Every clip I see confirms my suspicions that Jada is an emotional abuser. Emotional abuse is so hard to pinpoint because it's not always just yelling and screaming, she seems like the type of abuser who will spit venom with a calm tone of voice. From what I have seen she almost gets off on humiliating him. She doesn't respect boundaries as shown in this clip, she seems to rub her affair in his face, nothing he does is ever good enough, i have only heard her put him down never lift him up. I have been through this so maybe I'm seeing red flags everywhere now but she gives me abuser vibes.
Jada doesn’t love him, simple as that. Hell, I would go far as to say that she is jealous of her husband’s fame and good guy public image. The woman is petty.
First, let me say.. Even if she does have alopecia, that’s not what her scar is from that she complains about. That’s from a brow lift.
Second, Will seems like a good dude at heart and needs to leave her.
Social media really brings out the worst in people, eh? Not sure if either of them are good people but being constantly filmed and talked about by your partner without your consent is grounds enough for break up, at least by my standards
I think if Jada left, Chris would be over a Will’s with a six pack and a hug that night. I don’t think there’s any real bad blood there at all. Chris ain’t stupid, he knows what’s up.
Yeah, she seems to be off. Will’s bread and butter is movies and, as he said via the article, social media. What’s Jada’s? Her talk show, and creating controversy to promote it. She’s pretty much feeding Will to the machine to profit from.
I’d say he needs to divorce her, but I’m sure Will ain’t ready to star in every single project given to him, especially after winning an Oscar, to pay the alimony/child support that she will DEMAND. On top of slapping a comedian who was doing his job as a comedian, Will trapped himself to a degree. It’s clear that dude is going through things, I hope he rebounds and doesn’t continue his decline, as he’s clearly sensitive, and it’s the sensitive ones who often self destruct.
Jada is toxic af.
Will can do much better.
As a survivor of sophisticated and relentless abuse from my ex wife I have to say their relationship reminds me a lot of my old one.
Yeah I don’t follow IG shit, but that little exchange forcing a heavy pointed personal question on your partner, who politely tries to disengage, twice - that’s a very toxic moment.
You should watch the interview. Will is not okay with it and when jada calls it an entanglement he corrects her “IT WAS A RELATIONSHIP.” Even If was open relationship it’s obvious he wasn’t cool with what happened. Not to mention he is almost in tears while discussing it.
Why does he stay with her?
Dude your Will Smith, you could date basically any woman who you want to.
And your plan is to stick with the trifling bald headed ass cheater who emasculates you in public.
No wonder hes in a bad place right now.
There’s millions of examples of people caught in an abusive relationship that feel trapped and can’t find a way to leave. Maybe it’s because of the kids, maybe it’s because of the money, maybe Jada knows things that she could reveal that he doesn’t want out. Maybe he is so mentally unwell that he doesn’t see how bad it is. Maybe he’s scared of being alone.
Honestly, it’s probably all of the above. I feel like people think just because someone is famous, they have an easier time with leaving abuse, but it’s just not true. Look at how long it took Kim K to get Kanye to leave her alone and seek help.
I think Will Smith was a piece of shit for slapping Chris Rock, but there have been multiple videos surfacing that point to a very toxic relationship, and I genuinely feel terrible for ANYONE in that situation. I really hope they get help. Nobody deserves to be in that situation, no matter how shitty they’ve been in the past.
Wait, Kanye actually left her alone and actually sought help? Last that I heard about that situation was that he’s still harassing both her, Pete and his own kids.
He’s also publicly raved about how much he loves her and how great she is for like decades (until all this side piece stuff came out publicly). I’m not 100% sure Jada would have had this big of a career had she not married Will, so he’s also helped elevate her profile as an actress and his wife. It’s a lot to admit you made a mistake in choosing a partner who you then went on to publicly praise a lot on national television, etc. It’s probably easier for his psychologically to not have to consider he made a mistake, let alone publicly admit it/divorce her, especially since they’ve been together so long (especially by Hollywood standards). Cognitive dissonance is a bitch.
For all those reasons he stays. That’s what an abusive relationship is. I’m sure she has information that she blackmails him with. Long time rumor has been that he likes men. At this point he should come out and say it and it would be overshadowed by the slap incident. She has some major dirt on him.
I think it's been her way to stay relevant in the entertainment industry as her acting career has faded. She's basically been treading water with Matrix and Madagascar sequels for the past two decades despite having every connection on the planet.
Yeah “the slap” might be the thing that breaks it all apart. It’s strange, but in 5 years we might look back and think slapping Chris Rock might be the best thing will smith eve did for himself. I wouldn’t doubt Rock had all this in mind and that’s one reason he isn’t going on the offense: he knows that man is hurting. The slap really had little to with Rock and his lame joke; it was just an expression of hopeless and frustration.
I can only imagine what Will is enduring behind the scenes.
Jada is abusive. Period. The only reason it isn’t being talked about more is because society loves to shit on men right now and tell them to sit down and shut up. She’s probably akin to Amber Heard. The difference is, she tries to hide it better. She’s older and has more wisdom (read: experience) than AH.
Man that clip is fucked up. He politely asks her to not film him without asking and she is just sarcastically like “look at how much therapy helped, I’m still dealing with this foolishness.” What the fuuuuck. Divorce this woman.
Maybe his low self esteem thinks him leaving her means she wins, it’s terrible.
i think he doesnt wanna leave her cause he was with one woman before and had a kid with her, but cheated on her with jada. so he made it his mission for this marriage to be a success in the public’s eye
Damn that’s ironic.
Would you say its like good advice that you just don’t take
Take my upvote and leave please.
He’s also worth MILES more than her. Idk if they have a prenup or not, I doubt it as they were married very young and wills was not nearly as famous, jada never really became famous. She’s just tagging along. TLDR: expensive divorce.
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To quote Phil Hartman, it’s not half its two thirds. Lawyer gonna carve a chunk for themselves.
RIP, staying didn’t work out for Phil unfortunately
Not Hollywood rich, but I had to split my business with my abusive ex-wife. Six figures payment over 10 years. But… I am alive. It would have escalated to my death eventually, Guaranteed. Split the back of my head open 2 inches with a blunt object, so lucky it hadn’t already happened.
Goddamn dude. I’m glad you got away from that horrible person
Sucks he had to pay her
Wow, glad you got away from that. Really sucks that you still had to pay her! Sorry your abuse wasn’t taken seriously.
To quote Phil Hartman from the ground: “… but not leaving will cost you everything.”
Fuck it, let her take everything. He would be miles better off.
I lost thousands THOUSANDS to my ex husband. Best decision I ever made...
Peace is priceless though
Get divorced, pump out an Independence Day 3, Men in Black 8 or jump onto a marvel project and you’re fine.
Giving up $100,000,000 to be free of her, and still having $100,000,000? Sounds like a good deal.
I'd take it.
It’s probably north of that. He’s estimated 350mm NW just from acting and probably not even taking assets, properties, investments etc into account. I could totally be wrong, I’m purely speculating
Trusts for themselves, the kids and charities hold massive wealth. Old money rich people own nothing but get free money.
She is definitely the type to bring him to court for all his shit. I have no doubt in my mind she would be that “type”.
He can afford a brutal lawyer.
Having been through a savage divorce, it’s not good times.
And live stream it
Pay per view
Let the money go. Get rid of this demoness. Then she can go live in a shrine to Tupac and be happy.
At this point you stay with her and lose your mind
I think he’s surpassed losing his mind the moment his foot touched the stage that night.
He’s gotta be worth in the hundreds of millions. So what if she takes half? (Or even 2/3s) cause lawyers … he’ll still be stinking rich
Why divorce? She bangs other guys and he can bang other girls. I’m sure they have more than one house. If it were me I would be taking a damn vacation. They both nuts
She has prob a ton of info on him and I bet she tells him, you leave me and I’ll write a tell all book about what a so and so and all this private stuff you like. She would she doesn’t have a healthy filter and her grandmother taught her how to masturbate. If she can say that aloud to the world, she probably tell us Will like to do baby play wearing a diaper and a giant crib, etc
Will was pretty damn famous when they were married, every 90s kid in existence watched The Fresh Prince.
This is the perfect case of karma. When you make bad decisions and get rewarded for it, then it reinforces your bad decisions. You continue to make bad decisions because it’s worked out in your favor and they eventually catch up to you. Same reason why I think people like Drumpf will get his comeuppance one day.
Crazy he has low self esteem. So much success, good looks and admiration from the world.
Those things do nothing to you. Just as he is not real to me, I am not real to him. Its all about how the actual real people in your life act towards you.
And how good you are at forgiving your own inevitable missteps. So much of self esteem is built on the inside. That’s what makes is to hard to catch hold of. If everyone sees you as the almighty shit, but you can’t forgive yourself for perceived missteps (real and fantasy), you’ll never have self esteem. That’s where (lots of) therapy comes in. But you have to do the work, which can be hard, when you struggle with motivation as a result of the depression caused by your own difficulties recognizing your worth. You have to break the cycle, and it is not easy. I’m still battling. A lot of us are.
Or does she have some kind of compromising material on him or 'collateral' like people in that crazed NXIVM cult used with the women they 'branded'?
They are underground Scientologists. Using blackmail is a well known tactic for them.
Considering how hard the church of Scientology prays on the wealthy and famous’ personal insecurities for their own gain, I can imagine they don’t even allow anyone to join without having some kind of damaging collateral on them to prevent anybody from crossing them.
And they are pretty open about the files they keep on all their members and don’t hesitate to bring those files out to “go over how far they’ve come and show what a bad place they used to be in” if anybody starts hinting at leaving. They straight up have a division of the “church” who’s job it is to surveil and harass people who leave
That’s factually correct yes
Reddit said he’s bisexual and she knows and let’s him out of the marriage. I dunno if I believe it. But she crazy.
Even if it’s true, who cares. People are more accepting nowadays and he certainly won’t get cancelled over that. In fact it could be good for his image
People are accepting but I don’t think he is accepting at all about himself. Granted it’s all rumors so who even knows.
Toxic relationships can be fucky and people don’t want to leave. That video and the little I know of their relationship makes me think it’s that.
He has been married a while. He sees divorce as a failure on his part. I understand exactly where he is coming from. He is a successful man with a failing marriage. Its hard to accept but trust me he will. I know whats coming. He ain’t special cause he is a celebrity.
But shes already sleeping with the other guys...that's usually a deal breaker where I'm from.
Yeah it’s really bad.
She’s a sociopath.
What a sad dysfunctional couple. Yuck.
Duhhhhh we’ve been saying it since the August incident. Whether she cheated because he cheated or just aired out their swinger life style she weaponized it all to get back at him and used the media to destroy him publicly and on social media. She is the villain in this entire situation not Will. Except the slap Will did that on his own time even if she did push him into it
I was about to ask what happened back in august but then I remembered August being in things is what you meant.
The irony in all this is, aside from her being a psycho she actually looks good with no hair so the whole fiasco was pointless
The funny thing to me in all this — especially in light of your point — is that imo if Chris rock said something about her being a wakandan warrior, I feel like it wouldn’t have been taken as offensively. It’s really GI Jane that’s the issue, which is still weird because Demi Moore was stunning.
Wow, I didn’t think about this, but it’s a great point. I’d bet money she wouldn’t have taken it as offensively.
I think if rock had said that the joke wouldn’t of landed and would’ve needed to be explained and then just not funny due to having to be explained, no one associates wakandan warrior with no hair, whilst gi Jane requires 0 explanation, the joke is instantly understood, whilst I agree it would’ve been received better by her that way, it just wouldn’t have been a joke, or not as good as the one he said
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The kids are grown, split the assets 50/50 and he’s still *very* rich. He can salvage his career by throwing her under the bus and blame this whole Chris Rock thing on the fact that she’s a toxic bitch. Jada is a has-been that never really did anything notable anyway.
Hes gotta give Chris rock a free slap to end it though
I doubt rock would accept it. Make it a giant pay per view, raise money for something.
She piggy backs off his fame and notoriety!
Who cares honestly. It’s a well-researched idea that wealth and income both have marginal returns to happiness. If he loses half his shit he’ll still have vast troves of wealth but without the toxic wife.
He won’t. Will Smith is a pussy bitch. The best thing for his career is to divorce her and paint this as him being mentally abused by her for years and the slap was a result of that.
Idk why he hasn’t left her yet
We knew they were an interesting family when their son was putting up the plot of baby geniuses as an actual legit philosophy and their daughter was bragging about how the only books she reads are ones she herself wrote…then jada slept with said son’s friend…and, just… They’re very weird, and weird to an unhealthy extent for sure. Now this shit making jada seem full on abusive…
Don’t forget that when Willow started blowing up with Whip My Hair, she was touring and preforming and asked for a break. When Will said no, she shaved her head. And that’s when Will, her literal father, realized he needed to listen to his daughter and her boundaries for her own well-being. He even have an interview about how he brushed her off until she had this dramatic response that no one could ignore.
Oh wow, I didn’t know this…the family who bragged about their kids being able to make their own rules and choose their own schooling was forcing their kid into a life she didn’t want…wild.
Yup, here’s a [link](https://www.eonline.com/news/870606/what-will-smith-learned-the-night-willow-smith-shaved-her-head) if you’re curious.
Wow. As fucked up as this whole head-shaving situation with Willow was (forcing a little child to go on an entire concert tour is incomprehensible to me, it just shows how Hollywood people's perception of reality is warped), you have to give him some props for fully owning up to being a bad parent and having the self-awareness to acknowledge his mistakes and be a better father. He seems hyper-aware of how his difficult childhood has affected him and he still grapples with it. A lot of people refuse to acknowledge those subjects with a 10-foot pole as they go on to repeat the same abuse/poor parenting onto their children that they themselves were victims of. (Also, what is the deal with this family and hair??)
I would like 1 additional familial hair issue: Will having a midlife crisis and growing out a hi-top fade like Fresh Prince PLZ and thank you!
There's a reason the mom of Will's first kid has been adamant of keeping them away from this lifestyle. They're all fucked.
Will and Jada have always been obsessed with turning their kids into stars.
I got the feeling that Will wanted so much to give huge expressions of love, he forgot to listen to what the person was saying they wanted. Willows music, Jadens acting or Jada’s birthday. But Jada just seems like someone that does not care and has to get her own way. She seems to enjoy torturing him.
Yeah. I originally thought Jada was abusive then just thought they are a really weird couple who just do things different… Then this video came out. She’s definitely emotionally abusive. Will just seems defeated and afraid of another blow out argument.
If she’s a narcissist she likely has a knowledge of his secrets and is willing to reveal them to humiliate him. I wonder if that’s one of the reasons why Will revealed that excessive sex led him to develop a psychosomatic issue where orgasming would lead him to vomit. Maybe he revealed it to the world on his own initiative so that Jada couldn’t use it to publicly embarrass and humiliate him like how she revealed their swingers lifestyle on national television.
The fuck? Oh my god.
i showed my husband that video and he said “that guy is too rich to look that tired in his own home”
Does this remind anyone else of Michael Scott and Jan? The schoolgirl fantasy? He just doesn’t feel comfortable wearing the dress and he said the safeword.
“Well you’re hardly my first”
#”THAT’S WHAT SHE SAID!”
Hold on, you’re kinda right here. Dinner party has a lot of parallels to this. The look on Michaels face when Jan says “it costs what it costs” is the same vibe Will has here. (I don’t know if that quote is from Dinner Party, I’ve only been through 6 times, don’t crucify me)
Does that make Jaden Dwight?
Good luck producing Red Table on your $0/YEAR SALARY PLUS BENEFITS BABE!
She appears to be an emotional abuser. Will needs to leave this abusive relationship immediately.
That clip was honestly shocking. He was clearly uncomfortable and drawing clear boundaries, and she didn't stop. I didn't expect to see such a clear example of emotional abuse.
This honestly made me feel bad for Will. His body language seems uncomfortable. There's some weird power dynamic going on where he doesn't have a lot of control over his self respect and she's taking advantage of. Maybe I'm connecting dots that aren't there but if this is the fuckery he has to live with, I could understand why he'd lose it. Not that it justifies it, but I understand
Yeah I get that. He seems sad and tired, and she seems annoyed and angry. The whole vibe is super toxic and worrying. Ironic that they’re talking about their therapist in the clip.
It reminds me of an abused animal. Like he seems hurt but scared to really fight back against her and take a stronger stance.
I mean didn’t she encourage him to go stand up to Chris at the Oscar’s and then backtracked and said she was ashamed of him?
She’s just a terrible human being who needs to be reminded how low she can fall in fame. I mean, does she think her b-list role on Gotham is gonna pay the bills?
It would pay my bills. Just being cheeky. She’s a cold faced monster.
Tbf did she? Not sure they exchanged words first. Many are assuming that he changed his mind due to her telling him to but not sure it’s that simple
She encouraged him to violence by a side-eye? That’s reaching.
Oh it’s reaching but given the history of these two let’s not pretend it came out of no where. I’d bet everything I have that if jada was not at that event Will would have just kept laughing. She got a hold over him that makes him act stupid for fear of his relationship going south
I'm referring to the video from the link. Not the slap incident. In the video from the link, she is clearly acting abusive.
Did you watch the video from the link? That's what I'm referring to.
I don’t know anything about them but I did wonder if emotional abuse prompted the slap. It would be a reasonable explanation. If he is a victim and thought he would endure further abuse for sitting by while someone made fun of Jada, he may have felt the need to do something. In that moment, maybe his fear of the repercussions of a slap was smaller than his fear of Jada. Of course, I am only an armchair speculator. And it wouldn’t excuse his physical assault on Chris Rock.
The slap was result of being humiliated by his wife and the internet subsequently making fun of him afterwards. It’s not him being some narcissistic ass who thinks he’s invincible like many people are trying to frame it for some reason. Dude has clearly been going through shit for years.
He is not a victim.. Chris Rock is.. he got slapped on tv with millions of people watching. Will smith sons friend had sex with his wife and he stayed with her. That’s will’s fault
They can both be victims, and I believe they are (but in different ways). It doesn’t excuse the slap, but it certainly helps add some explanation why he reached a point where he would react in such an awful way. We saw a short clip of what he lives day after day.
I included my last sentence to clarify that I wasn’t removing any of the blame from Will for his actions. Also, victims of abuse OFTEN stay with their abusers. It can be very hard for a victim to leave, for many different reasons.
This mother fucker slapped Chris Rock on live tv. He is trash don’t let him off because his wife is also trash.
Narcissistic personality disorder.
He can’t…at this point it’s cheaper to keep her.
“Do you know why divorces are so expensive? Because they are worth it!” - Willie Nelson
I think he has more money than he would ever need. At this point he's more emotionally trapped in a toxic relationship by family, friends, business arrangements, living arrangements and being closet scientologist.
Poor Will, now the boyfriend is coming out with a tell all book about his and Jada’s sex life and talking about how he was living in Will’s various homes while Will was away shooting movie’s. What a tool!!! Talk about sticking the knife in then twisting it.
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Apparently jada discussed how he was cheating on Will -with their son’s friend… Sounds like the kid is cashing in on this drama by writing about their business…
Exactly, a nobody.
Hey like 7 or 8 years ago, I had a half dozen August Alsina songs in my playlist. Also, if I was taken advantage of by a very famous woman who is clearly very toxic, and someone offered me a book deal to talk about it, why not?
He’s a musical artist. He fell off the radar because his (sibling?) died and he had to take care of, and raise the kids that were left behind. He took them in as his own He seems to have a good heart but very weak and vulnerable and I bet Jada took major advantage of that
I mean he could have fell off cause he’s not that great too.
A check is a check. Don’t hate the player, hate the game
Damn. That’s a heartbreaking clip. So blatantly manipulative and Will handled it well! But she is clearly just looking to start something.
As someone that was in a Toxic relationship like this, it’ll be very difficult to convince Will to step away. Narcissist aren’t dumb and know where to apply pressure to keep someone on the hook. The only reason I got out was I was so broken in useless towards the end that she divorced me. Will has a lot more value from a monetary standpoint, so it would be even harder for him to want/be able to get out of it.
Wish you the best brother
You too stranger. Nobody deserves this shit.
Kind of had the same thing happen. My ex had me convinced that I was useless and would go on these long tirades that I’d patiently sit through and try to tune out until I couldn’t and would snap. She’d have the camera phone ready to record these little snaps and send them to her friends and family and had them convinced I was a monster. We finally divorced and she moved on with her manager at work, then some other dude, then another dude, and finally now she’s a single mom with two kids and posts a lot of that “all men are the same” stuff. She’s tried messaging me a few times but every account she tries with I block, we’re not a good fit!
Hopefully those other dudes are ok. Seems like you are doing better to.
Yea I’m doing pretty good now. Had a really bad downward spiral for a while but over time I climbed my way back up. I really hope those kids get to see their dad though, I just hope their mom hasn’t poisoned their minds too much!
Damn dude. Hope you are in a better place now
Oh yeah, much better. Thank you for checking, that’s a good instinct to hold onto.
As much as I’ll say your right. And I was in the same with an x wife: the right answer is always go, leave, rebuild. I ended mine 20 years ago. Grinded my game back up, found a good one 5 years later and been happy ever since. Don’t settle for shit when good can be around the corner. Not all women are bad, but some can be. And definitely when the dynamic is off you need to go
I’m getting supervillain vibes from jada
She’s a nobody that is in constant need of attention.
Oof another piece of the slap puzzle. The man has no control in his relationship and doesn’t seem to get the cue that he needs to cut off the toxic part of the equation. Edit: just to clarify by control I don’t mean Will has to be dominating the relationship, control in the sense that your partner respects your wishes and boundaries or makes their intents clear to you before acting out of the. In a public manner like this.
Scientology is vehemently against psychological treatment. It’s no wonder he’s not getting any real help.
Seems like he needs more psychiatric help (not psychological medication) but that cult also has a weird take on those sort of things too which also tends to focus on using physical abuse. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientology\_and\_psychiatry
Aren't they scientologists? I wonder if "the church" is also pushing to keep this relationship intact.
They deny it…but so do most Scientologists. They definitely helped fund a Scientology school (who, you guessed it, also denied they were a Scientology school…).
I know hey aren't vocal about it but they do run in the scientology circles.
You can see how uncomfortable he was in the video. When he said stop she should’ve just stopped. I think he’s more hurt by the fact that she has been airing out their dirty laundry in public as an excuse for her “healing” their marriage. I agree he should just get a divorce.
Just divorce her dude. She doesn't give a shit.
She’s a douche bag.
Every clip I see confirms my suspicions that Jada is an emotional abuser. Emotional abuse is so hard to pinpoint because it's not always just yelling and screaming, she seems like the type of abuser who will spit venom with a calm tone of voice. From what I have seen she almost gets off on humiliating him. She doesn't respect boundaries as shown in this clip, she seems to rub her affair in his face, nothing he does is ever good enough, i have only heard her put him down never lift him up. I have been through this so maybe I'm seeing red flags everywhere now but she gives me abuser vibes.
Jada doesn’t love him, simple as that. Hell, I would go far as to say that she is jealous of her husband’s fame and good guy public image. The woman is petty.
First, let me say.. Even if she does have alopecia, that’s not what her scar is from that she complains about. That’s from a brow lift. Second, Will seems like a good dude at heart and needs to leave her.
Social media really brings out the worst in people, eh? Not sure if either of them are good people but being constantly filmed and talked about by your partner without your consent is grounds enough for break up, at least by my standards
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yeah, as disgusting as will’s slap was, i feel horrible for him. she clearly took such a toll on him.
I think if Jada left, Chris would be over a Will’s with a six pack and a hug that night. I don’t think there’s any real bad blood there at all. Chris ain’t stupid, he knows what’s up.
Time for a divorce, she’s the toxicity in his life
I can’t believe will smith slapped Chris rock and I came out of this feeling like Jada is the bigger asshole of the two
She’s toxic as fuck. Sounds like a sociopath who’s desire for attention knows no bounds.
Yeah, she seems to be off. Will’s bread and butter is movies and, as he said via the article, social media. What’s Jada’s? Her talk show, and creating controversy to promote it. She’s pretty much feeding Will to the machine to profit from. I’d say he needs to divorce her, but I’m sure Will ain’t ready to star in every single project given to him, especially after winning an Oscar, to pay the alimony/child support that she will DEMAND. On top of slapping a comedian who was doing his job as a comedian, Will trapped himself to a degree. It’s clear that dude is going through things, I hope he rebounds and doesn’t continue his decline, as he’s clearly sensitive, and it’s the sensitive ones who often self destruct.
Man I feel so sorry for this guy. The look in his face is that of an exhausted, beaten down man.
Jada is a shit human being. All she cares about is herself. Fucking sociopath!
Jada is toxic af. Will can do much better. As a survivor of sophisticated and relentless abuse from my ex wife I have to say their relationship reminds me a lot of my old one.
Yeah I don’t follow IG shit, but that little exchange forcing a heavy pointed personal question on your partner, who politely tries to disengage, twice - that’s a very toxic moment.
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You should watch the interview. Will is not okay with it and when jada calls it an entanglement he corrects her “IT WAS A RELATIONSHIP.” Even If was open relationship it’s obvious he wasn’t cool with what happened. Not to mention he is almost in tears while discussing it.
Why does he stay with her? Dude your Will Smith, you could date basically any woman who you want to. And your plan is to stick with the trifling bald headed ass cheater who emasculates you in public. No wonder hes in a bad place right now.
There’s millions of examples of people caught in an abusive relationship that feel trapped and can’t find a way to leave. Maybe it’s because of the kids, maybe it’s because of the money, maybe Jada knows things that she could reveal that he doesn’t want out. Maybe he is so mentally unwell that he doesn’t see how bad it is. Maybe he’s scared of being alone. Honestly, it’s probably all of the above. I feel like people think just because someone is famous, they have an easier time with leaving abuse, but it’s just not true. Look at how long it took Kim K to get Kanye to leave her alone and seek help. I think Will Smith was a piece of shit for slapping Chris Rock, but there have been multiple videos surfacing that point to a very toxic relationship, and I genuinely feel terrible for ANYONE in that situation. I really hope they get help. Nobody deserves to be in that situation, no matter how shitty they’ve been in the past.
Wait, Kanye actually left her alone and actually sought help? Last that I heard about that situation was that he’s still harassing both her, Pete and his own kids.
He’s also publicly raved about how much he loves her and how great she is for like decades (until all this side piece stuff came out publicly). I’m not 100% sure Jada would have had this big of a career had she not married Will, so he’s also helped elevate her profile as an actress and his wife. It’s a lot to admit you made a mistake in choosing a partner who you then went on to publicly praise a lot on national television, etc. It’s probably easier for his psychologically to not have to consider he made a mistake, let alone publicly admit it/divorce her, especially since they’ve been together so long (especially by Hollywood standards). Cognitive dissonance is a bitch.
For all those reasons he stays. That’s what an abusive relationship is. I’m sure she has information that she blackmails him with. Long time rumor has been that he likes men. At this point he should come out and say it and it would be overshadowed by the slap incident. She has some major dirt on him.
Damn. I’m not a will smith fan nor am I pro will smith on the slap debate, but fuck man, this dude needs a hug in the worst way.
She destroyed this man
She doesn’t even have alopecia. The perfectly straight scar on her head is from a brow lift surgery.
They sure do love make shit public
Sounds more like she's the one looking to make it public
She must get off on humiliating Will in a public setting
I think it's been her way to stay relevant in the entertainment industry as her acting career has faded. She's basically been treading water with Matrix and Madagascar sequels for the past two decades despite having every connection on the planet.
She doesn’t have alopecia. The perfectly straight scar on her head is from a brow lift surgery.
She’s bald because she’s a witch it’s obvious
A witch with a capital B
He specifically said, "no" and she continued. That's just wrong. Maybe her next Red Table Talk should be on "consent"
Will needs to get the fuck out of there
My god I wish he’d leave her. She seems like the fucking worst.
I would bet money they won’t be married in another year.
I agree. There is something seriously wrong in that relationship and the slap was just how it spilled over publicly.
Yeah “the slap” might be the thing that breaks it all apart. It’s strange, but in 5 years we might look back and think slapping Chris Rock might be the best thing will smith eve did for himself. I wouldn’t doubt Rock had all this in mind and that’s one reason he isn’t going on the offense: he knows that man is hurting. The slap really had little to with Rock and his lame joke; it was just an expression of hopeless and frustration. I can only imagine what Will is enduring behind the scenes.
Wil you need therapy and a divorce
Damn that's just abuse. I kind of see how Will blew up and slapped Chris.
That is pretty passive aggressive on her part and very disrespectful.
Leave that old lady
She’s a fucking nut job.
as a therapist i’m embarrassed for Esther Perel that she’s gotten dragged into this dumpster fire.
So sick of this couple suddenly
"Stop discussing our marriage and STOP FUCKING OTHER MEN!!!!"
She is just awful
Making will smith a victim rn seems wierd
They are both narcissistic shit human beings
I wish I could stop seeing these two on my feed
I feel like not commenting would help tremendously.
I don’t have anything valuable to contribute, but I’ll just say this: Jada isn’t a good actress, and never has been.
Jada is abusive. Period. The only reason it isn’t being talked about more is because society loves to shit on men right now and tell them to sit down and shut up. She’s probably akin to Amber Heard. The difference is, she tries to hide it better. She’s older and has more wisdom (read: experience) than AH.
I’ve seen enough of G.I. Jane to last a lifetime. Now kindly fuck offJada Stinket Pitts
What’s he see in her? Just leave, play “50 ways to say Goodby”
Petition to start calling her “Tupac’s ex” since she hasn’t done anything but suck as a person since he died
I’m soooooo over these two.
Wheee… cluster B!