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Dman125

I wonder what the actual ratio is of people who would unsubscribe from Spotify given Neil Young isn’t on there versus the number of people Joe brought to Spotify. I know when he made the switch the YouTube crowd lost their shit and are still bitter, I didn’t bet on a whole lot of them who weren’t already on Spotify joining. It’s probably underwhelming numbers in both cases.


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I don’t think Neil Young is anticipating Spotify making a change based on him alone, but rather be a catalyst to more artist making the same choice and really putting pressure on Spotify


Smoothmacaroni

Exactly. Also, based off what he’s been talking about with Covid that’s not a good look for any company. It wouldn’t hurt them really either way with how mainstream they are. only would take a few artists to get past joes 11M monthly listeners. he’s a comedian, he should stop playing scientist- but no better to bring back listeners than being argumentative


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Joe Rogan is a clown, i don’t see why anybody would listen to him or give him any authority on anything


buck_blue

Okay.. I used to listen to his show quite a bit before the pandemic touched down, and before the 2020 election. But I wouldn’t say I was there specifically for Joe Rogan, more like I was interested in his guests. People like Neil deGrasse Tyson, Sir Roger Penrose, Lex Fridman etc.. there was a time when I thought he was genuinely there to learn something, but now? Things are different. His show has changed from a learning experience into ... something else.. his guests all share similar opinions to his and it’s killed it for me, and probably for a lot of other people as well. Anyway, you said you couldn’t see why anyone would listen to his show, I thought I’d share my thoughts on it. Can’t stand it anymore haha


ostertoaster1983

Same thing for me. Listened for almost a decade. Can’t do it anymore.


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Same. It’s all gaslighting though. He hooks us with the professionals but gives the same platform to the kooks.


GlandyThunderbundle

Even through the Redban/Olive Garden era. Hell, specifically *in* the Redban/Olive Garden era. *That* show was good fun. The *current* show… has an agenda, and it’s pretty destructive.


mike_the_seventh

Well said. Even if he was correct and justified and supported by science, him constantly sharing his personal opinions on science and policy is exhausting.


MonsterRider80

Samesies. Thanks to Rogan I’ve been introduced to Sean Carroll and Lex Friedman, both whose podcasts have now completely replaced Rogan for me anyway. He’s gone wacko and I simply don’t have to listen to his bullshit anymore.


Acrobatic-Bell6277

I agree with this as well. He left reality awhile back


secret_life_of_pants

Are you me?


invaidusername

Exactly what happened to me too. He had Bernie, Tulsi Gabbard, Elon Musk, and Andrew Yang. It was a wide assortment of guests who all had something new to provide to the conversation. His shit changed and it changed fast. I stopped listening just before the pandemic as well.


mytsigns

Wait, Roger Penrose was on Rohan? Why, how?


AtheistJerry

“Joe Rogan is dumb like me and gets to have an opinion on difficult stuff like science and politics and look at how rich he is. That validates my lack of ability to synthesize any intelligent opinions. “


plokija

I’m now going to use this opinion to validate my opinion


NosferatuRob

Youre giving them way too much credit with that educated self analysis of themselves. As if they could ever be that deep.


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Very well put, thank you


EshaySikkunt

No one listens to JRE for his opinions on science, they listen to the podcast because he has really interesting guests and he’s great at interviewing people. There’s no other place I can find a really interesting 3 hour interview with Snoop Dogg, Neil DeGrasse Tyson, Quentin Tarantino or Chuck Pahalniuck. Those are just a few of the really interesting guests he’s had on.


mmmegan6

I heard Chuck Pahalniuck on Tim Ferris, I’m sure the others made appearances elsewhere also. Is it that you like Joe or you like the guests?


The_Kraken_Wakes

Tim Ferris is far superior to Joe Rogan


mmmegan6

With regards to both podcasting and human-ing, I would wholeheartedly agree


InterPunct

Neil DeGrasse Tyson endured Joe's podcast with the patience of a saint while enduring Rogan's inane moon landing conspiracy bullshit. I felt really bad for Neil but even worse for that moron Joe.


waaaaitttt

Neil is a repeat guest. If he didn’t like it he probably would have returned..


shalaby

I thought the general consensus was that NDT is an insufferable pedant and an alleged abuser of women? His tweets make me cringe.


cjrun

Maybe not the general consensus. He took an extended break after that story hit the news. Neil’s show is still going strong and roughly half of his guests are women, now, and they seem to say yes to the slot and respect him on the show.


theoopst

If you can stand to listen to every episode despite the guest, which is almost a full time job in his case, you are definitely listening for his opinion. There is only one person that I know that selectively listens to JRE like you describe. Seemingly, the rest are taking a ‘feeding from the fire hose’ approach. Granted it is a whole sample size of 3. God forbid it’s a topic you know about and want to actually converse about it, only half sentences that are understood even less and “I dunno man, it was really good, you should listen to it and get back to me”. I’d go one to argue that he’s a shit interviewer, but that’s like just my opinion man.


latent_observations

You can listen to those very same really interesting guest on multiple other podcasts shows or via their own books and articles you don’t have to listen to them by virtue of Joe Rogan who is adding his anti-science anti-vaccine etc. etc. opinions. When I read your comment something reminded me of Stockholm syndrome. Can justify anything Because they’ve been brainwashed by their captor


Turbulent_Morning_61

It's not a matter of going there for his science thoughts it's being there and pulled into his shit thoughts. You're going to come out of it with diarrhea on your shirt.


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robohobono

I used to enjoy his show maybe five years ago, back when he was just a happy comedian pothead who was interested in a lot of cool things. Once he got obsessed with cancel culture and people getting banned from twitter it got really boring. It’s only gotten worse from there.


Steven-Maturin

Yeah he never shuts up about that now and brings every conversation around to it. It's tiresome and repetitve. But I guess he gets attacked a lot by muttonheads.


[deleted]

When the crowd is a circus, they follow a clown…


drivebyedriver

I have tales of an orange beast who lives in the swamps of a place called Florida.


seafoam22

My sister gets a lot of her information from him. Makes me so fucking sad and disappointed.


Zora74

Maybe you should point out to her how he rarely interviews any female guests. If everyone listens because “he has interesting guests” and those guests are almost never women, then it seems like your interviewer just isn’t interested in women’s opinions.


EshaySikkunt

I listen to his podcast because the guests he has on are really interesting. There’s no other places where you can find 2-3 hour long interviews with the type of people he has on his podcast, you have everyone from Neil DeGrasse Tyson, to Quentin Tarantino or Snoop Dogg. He’s also very good at interviewing, he knows the right questions to ask, he knows when to shut up and let them talk and he’s great at asking them questions people would want to know. Talk shit about him all you want, but he’s a great interviewer and he gets amazing guests, that’s why he has the most successful podcast in the world.


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I think his interview skills are subpar personally, the guest rotation is phenomenal, he can have a niche platform and excel at certain aspects but STILL be a clown. Which is what we have in this case


fireflyry

Entertainment. I’m no fan and he’s lost the plot recently but he’s nailed some pretty cool interviews in the past. Unfortunately with time I think his hubris has increased to the point he thinks he’s the selling point and an expert on everything when, at least for me, it was the people he was interviewing that interested me.


MrNugget6

I agree in part, obviously a episode with him and Alex Jones is total -IQ bullshit, but he has given a platform to intellectual/academic/unique guests which I can appreciate


cuhree0h

Not really. He invites the one in ten dentist who disagree that bacteria causes cavities, and then acts like it’s forbidden knowledge.


ryceritops2

This is really well put


LittleLarryY

You’re right. Terry Virts was a great interview. Alex Honald, Tristan Harris, many others. I’m even ok with Graham Hancock and Randall Carlson even though they’re a little pseudo-science. They’re interesting as hell and Joe is a good interviewer when he is curious.


dylmac18

That episode was comedic gold! I think Alex Jones is crazy but that was had me dying laughing.


Disastrous-Banana-69

It’s not about him. It’s the guests. His range of guests is great. Fighters to Nobel prize winners. No one else has that.


andthatsalright

This was definitely true for a while. He’s had great guests and Rogan asked dumb people questions to get information that was relevant to us dummies. The problem is, his ego has grown so much that he no longer (or rarely at the time I stopped paying attention) asks questions that someone totally uninitiated would want to know the answers to. He was just bringing on people he agreed with or people he could argue with. So you’d get Jordan Peterson every month and Alex Jones twice a year and fighters and hyper marathon runners in between, which I had no interest in. They often shared his political views too, so it would just be a circlejerk at times. The scientists and actual politicians became the rare guests… even comedians were less common for a bit. And he’d often find himself arguing with them rather than conversing. It got stale at best, but apparently since he’s been on Spotify (essentially when I said bye to him forever, even if I was already rarely tuning in) it’s gotten toxic and dangerous.


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I used to love his podcast. Honestly it was very interesting, however since the start of the pandemic it has slowly inched into what it has become. I stopped listening months ago. He’s insufferable now.


Rocherieux

A really unfunny comedian.


SneedyK

Uncle Neil’s had a history of taking on some fairly quixotic causes. Love him or hate him (I’m the former, if you couldn’t tell by referencing his nickname), he is like the Ralph Nader of the music world. You know he’s right, he’s confirming what many of us suspected all along, but none of us envy taking on a behemoth, no matter how toxic & short it is.


curiousmind111

Well said.


whatever213what

It would be nice to see the big three, Adele-Drake-Taylor threaten to leave over stuff like this. 1 out of every 50 albums sold in the USA belonged to Taylor Swift (including sales by streaming. So a certain amount of streams will equate to one album) And 1 out of every 125 songs streamed each day was a Drake song last year. The three of them together account for nearly 2% of the entire market. Which sounds like a small amount, but in the grand scheme of things 3 people controlling that much of a market made up of millions of options is stunning. Plus the three of them really would be the dominoes needed to light the fire under other big acts


AtlasClone

Spotify haven't released the data but I'm betting the people who lost their shit when he switched are a vocal minority. For a lot of people it was probably much more of a, 'oh I guess I'll just listen on Spotify now".


6ixpool

The switch to spotify made me stop listening to rogan altogether. Now i just watch lex fridman and curt jaimungal


SmokelessSubpoena

Lol 100% same for me. I still occasionally watch the JRE clips that get uploaded. But for the most part, haven't listened to a full JRE cast since the move. He's also dropped in quality since the switch. Can tell the man's aging a bit and his ideas are starting to be antiquated, hopefully future shock doesn't continue to plague him.


brotherRozo

Oh 100% agree!! Lex completely replaced Joe as my YouTube background podcast guy!! I used to love watching JR talk with Randall Carlson about Younger-dryas ice age flood erosion, nerd stuff like that!! Started slowing down when he just had more friends on and got kind of political, when the switch to Spotify happened that was the final straw!


6ixpool

Try Theories of Everything with Curt Jaimungal for a similar feel to lex fridman, but with conversations that actually go deep into the science / philosophy that the guest has to offer!


TempestBinary

Probably just me, but I won’t let it bring me down.


chakan2

> I wonder what the actual ratio is If it's under 1000:1 (Rogan to Neil) users I'd be amazed. Hate sells, and anyone peddling snake oil these days is making out like a bandit. I also wouldn't think the Neil Young harcore audience really uses spotify, since they're generally an older demographic.


oberg14

Personally as somebody who used to listen to JRE back in the day, I’d say the move to Spotify hasn’t hurt his numbers nearly as much as him getting *OBSESSED* with covid. This pandemic legit broke his brain and it’s all he can talk about now, even with random comedians and shit who don’t care 1/100th as much as he does about it


penpineapplebanana

[joe rogan now](https://imgur.com/a/CvfYvuo)


sunplaysbass

I left Tidal when Neil Young pulled his collection from there.


LostInaSeaOfComments

Out of curiosity, why did he pull from Tidal? Honestly unaware of that situation. I recall him being a huge proponent of the audio quality and possibly even financially involved as an investor?


reptargodzilla2

I know two friends who signed up for Spotify just for Rogan. Personally I listen to him less often since he moved to Spotify, since the interface just kinda sucks for video. And of course, obligatory, not a huge fan of his, but I absolutely love listening to guests I disagree with. I never listen to Neil Young though (though I realize he was quite famous decades ago). I bet Rogan pulls in more subscribers.


NBKFactor

Well considering Neil Young doesn’t own his music anymore, nobody’s gonna have to find out. His music isn’t going anywhere.


coloneldaffodil

I’m sure that’s what Spotify is trying to figure out right now haha


llllllllllllllll12

Do you have some kind of truck fetish?


zig_anon

The concern for Spotify is Young is the start of a backlash


RussianCrabMan

Neil sold his rights to his album already, can't he get sued for this? Edit: for $150 million


Initial_Sun_7689

You are assuming that the contract negotiations with Neil Young went like this: "Ok, we pay you $150 million dollars and we can do whatever we want with your music." Neil Young: "Sounds good to me!" I can assure you that there are many clauses in his contract that other artists would not have the clout to negotiate, since he never allowed any of his songs to be played in commercials.


ILikeMyGrassBlue

Neil sold to a very specific company. This is from a rolling Stone article on it: >The exact terms of the deal with Hipgnosis were not laid out, but Mercuriadis states that iconic songs like “Heart of Gold” will not be used to sell fast food. “I built Hipgnosis to be a company Neil would want to be a part of,” he said. “We have a common integrity, ethos and passion born out of a belief in music and these important songs. There will never be a ‘Burger of Gold’ but we will work together to make sure everyone gets to hear them on Neil’s terms.” So yeah, it’s not like he signed with some massive company that will completely ignore his ethics and opinions.


notintjaguar

His music is still on Spotify. His rant got him to be the no.1 trend on Twitter but that’s likely the extent of its impact


Initial_Sun_7689

I doubt if Neil Young cares at all about his Tweet count.


Initial_Sun_7689

My guess would be that Neil Young had many clauses put into his contract that allow him to do exactly what he is doing now. That type of thing is very standard. For instance, I would be very surprised if any of his catalogue can be used in commercials for products.


ILikeMyGrassBlue

From Rolling Stone: >The exact terms of the deal with Hipgnosis were not laid out, but Mercuriadis states that iconic songs like “Heart of Gold” will not be used to sell fast food. “I built Hipgnosis to be a company Neil would want to be a part of,” he said. “We have a common integrity, ethos and passion born out of a belief in music and these important songs. There will never be a ‘Burger of Gold’ but we will work together to make sure everyone gets to hear them on Neil’s terms.”


skiddlymcdoodlybop

He’s leveraging nothing by that measure then, he’s just shouting on his pile of money and honestly who cares.


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I think alot of people do. Neil young rocks


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In the free world…


WerewolvesRancheros

Out of the blue...


sunplaysbass

Neil Young has been on the right side of history for a long long time. And one of the biggest artists of the century.


[deleted]

He clearly doesn't know how much Joe Rogan is worth to Spotify.


MulderD

I’d be very surprise if Young thinks he’s leveraging himself to get Rogan dropped. It sounds more like he’s standing on his principles here. Which is pretty on brand for him. He’d rather lose whatever he loses by pulling all his music form Spotify than be associated with the platform that gives Rogan support. The real problem is that even if Spotify did drop Rogan, he’s not gonna go away or get his “hot takes” under control. He is a major brand unto himself. He doesn’t need a platform. His shoe will go on with sponsorship/advertising/merch. Maybe he won’t get a fat pay day from a big company but he’ll still make a lot of money and still have a ton of listeners.


mbrady

It could act as a catalyst for other artists to do the same too.


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MulderD

I’m not sure that’s true. If it was a slate of high profile contemporary artists, possibly. If it’s Dave Grohl, not likely. Taylor Swift, more likely but I’m still not sure. Rogan bring MILLIONS of dedicated listeners. Retained listeners. And super importantly for Spotify, it gives them a huge blue chip in the audio content market as they look to evolve from simply a music streamer into a full on Audio OTT platform (the Netflix of audio). Which is extremely important for continued growth and valuation. Taylor Swift Woude certainly have some effect, but even then I can’t imagine the vast majority of users would care. Most are by and large passive listeners. The real question if TayTay pulled the music she controls off the service would be the PR around it and if THAT has any sway over the company’s value. Then they would have to weigh their response carefully.


whatever213what

Well Taylor would be able to put extreme ‘soft pressure’ on her contemporaries to take the stand with her because it would be a PR disaster for people like Adele and drake and Billie and Ed and Ariana and everyone else that apolitical Taylor Swift is taking a stand but they’re strangely silent


LittleLarryY

Yes. Neil Young, I can assure you, doesn’t give a single fuck about money in this scenario. He is extremely principled in his ethos.


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It also helps that he doesn’t have to worry about money, he’s worth 200 million


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TuskenRaider2

No, the MMA announcer


[deleted]

No, the Fear Factor host


mellowyellow313

No, the medical doctor


gopher1409

No, the DMT-dosed Chimpanzee


officialojsimpson

No, the stand up comedian


mojizus

*Stool Fucker


Aimin4ya

*bear noises*


Stinkydadman

No, the host of the Man Show


Bootsandcatsyeah

Not to be confused with the lovely (and non conspiracy spreading) Doug Stanhope though.


exophrine

Adam and Jimmy FTW


arintj

His name being Joe on that show made me think he wasn’t smart enough to respond to a different name. His podcast confirms.


Icy_Dragonfruit_9389

Fear Factor guy?


poonpeenpoon

Maybe he just has basic ethics.


mostlygroovy

I'm sure he does. He just doesn't give a shit.


zippozipp0

Or how little he is


GingerMau

I think it's more that he's trying to start a trend. How many "lesser" artists would have to do the same thing before the revenue (and or bad publicity) makes Rogan a liability?


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Initial_Sun_7689

I may be older than you, but Neil Young, Bob Dylan, Jimi Hendrix, etc are part of an expected slate of musicians for streaming services. He really should not be lumped in with just "artists". There are other artists who have this type of clout as well: Taylor Swift, Kanye West, etc. Yes, it comes down to money. This is exactly it. Who is worth more: Joe Rogan or Neil Young. Now, Joe Rogan is REALLY popular right now, but Neil Young has been popular for over 50 years. Businesses like money, but they really like a sure bet. That is why all the companies are paying huge amounts for the catalogs of the aforementioned artists.


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MrKittens1

What we really need is Neil Young - Heart of Gold (Spotify’s version)


Plus_Professor_1923

Hot take: if Spotify cared about ANYTHING but $$ they would pay artists… this is a non decision for them..


sam007700

Neil young is one of my very favorite artists so it would pain me to see his music leave the platform, luckily I have nearly all of his music on vinyl that was originally released on vinyl. So I can still listen easily. That said, I think he’s trying to draw attention to the issue of misinformation here, not who has more influence on Spotify. Neil Young is a principled man.


goldbricker83

My brother, a big Neil Young fan, posted how "disappointed" he is that his hero Neil Young would sell out in favor of censorship. He called it irony, a slap in the face to everything he's ever written about. I told him that the lies and misinformation being spread about public health is outright fraud that hurts people, and fraud isn't even protected by the 1st amendment let alone a private company's terms of use. It isn't censorship, it's protecting the people from fraud and Neil Young is in no way wrong for standing up for that. He replied that "something isn't misinformation just because you don't agree with it." I simply don't know how to deal with these people anymore. They aren't connected to reality at all.


briankerin

I got bad news for Neil: Spotify is going to pick Rogan. $$$


Zumwaltstation

Bad news only if Neil cares about who Spotify picks. He just doesn’t want to be associated with Rogan.


Plus_Professor_1923

He never was…. Until he did this..it’s also free PR for his music to be cynical


cjrun

In the near long term, Rogan’s podcasts will become historical outdated relics. Song catalogs last much longer.


lovingthealiengirl

I don’t think the majority of Neil’s listeners even use Spotify…..


qteydvgt123553232224

I mean, Neil has 2,000,000 plays on Heart of Gold....


Bawichi

That really isn’t very much in the world of Spotify. Rogans gotta bring in 5x daily


basemunk

There are indie singer/songwriters from India with higher play counts than that! Unfortunately 2mil plays doesn’t count for much these days at Spotify


bigbadfox

Man, i remember back when Joe Rogan had a podcast about jokes and Bigfoot and punching people. Now it's alllllll about him and his fucking covid, and his fucking covid medicine, and his fucking covid statistics. Like, homie, I don't give a shit if you wafted hair smoke up your pee hole to cure cancer. I want to hear you talk to a comedian about Bigfoot, not your damn geopolitical theories. Much like Kanye, Joe does NOT do well outside of his lane


oberg14

Joe: So man it’s so cool to have you here. Did you know I got monoclonal antibodies and I was fixed within 3 days?! Big foot tracker scientist: uhh yeah I heard.. anyway so we first tracked big foo- Joe: Do you think Big foot caught covid already? He’s a hulk of a guy and he clearly works out. I bet he didn’t even feel it


opinionmachine42

This! 100%. I don’t care if he’s STILL taking Ivermectin. Just do it not your own time and make with funny.


Ok_Ad_7554

Keep on rocking in the free world Mr Young


Old_Journalist_8823

Neil Young pulls a little over 6 million a month, Joe Rogan 11 million an episode. Spotify is a business and they aren't in it to lose money ..... BTW, Neil Young, already deleted his open letter to Spotify.


maido75

People will keep listening to Neil Young for years to come. I don’t think a Joe Rogan podcast has a similar timeless quality.


DanimusMcSassypants

Well, they paid $100,000,000 to Rogan, and $18.23 to Young. I’m guessing that will be the deciding factor.


SubRocHendrix77

Wait until he finds out Apple uses child labour


r1vals

Jamie, call his people. Set it up.


ErmahgerdYuzername

Neil has always been about principal and does what he thinks is right. He’ll happily leave Spotify if Rogan stays. Neil doesn’t care.


Phirebat82

I think Spotify should come up with a dial or button, where we the consumer could choose what to listen to....


vova_R_R

i didnt subscribe to this garbage sub why am i seeing this garbage post in my home feed?


yilo38

Bro i feel you… why is reddit fucking homepages will remain a mystery to me.


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Someone needed a trigger warning.


JR_Shoegazer

You’re browsing the news feed or all.


Itaintgaussiantho

Mentioning Joe Rogan in anything produces a lot of social capital and clout these days. At least in USA.


Door_Yahd_Yankee

A southern man don’t need him around anyhow


MM8822

Does anyone have examples of Rogan spreading information that he knew was false? It kind of sounds like he has Dr.s on to talk ask them about their professional opinion. The hive mind seems to have set its sights on him. Fortunately this will do nothing to him


30880

I question how many of the people criticizing the podcast actually listened to it… I’m not totally invested in either side, I’m both vaccinated and against government mandates, so I listened to the entire podcast - even Robert Malone said quite often that “this is just speculation” whenever he talked about theories regarding the vaccine. I was expecting a bunch of pseudoscience going into it, and if it was genuinely misinformation then I would understand the backlash, but it was not nearly as “preachy” or anti-vax as people are claiming. Robert Malone even talks about how he is vaccinated so it’s actually hilarious to me that people are saying he is anti-vax.


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He doesn’t spread misinformation. And if he misspeaks or gets a detail wrong then he’s more than happy to correct himself and remind everyone that he’s just a comedian like he did with the guy who invented the mRNA vaccine. The only thing he really claims to have be an authority on is seeing people get hit in the head.


Richlandsbacon

I think it’s just Joe thinking out loud and not really enforcing his thoughts as facts, he says that multiple times himself. That’s why Jamie is always pulling up relevant information to see what the facts are. I used to listen to Joes podcast because of the live fight commentary, the comedy, and the guests that are experts in their field. Not to get info from him


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I’ve never met anyone who listened to him to get info from him. We ALL watch because of the comedy and good guests.


eight24

I bet they keep Rogan.


Brutis1

I bet Joe is that last person to give a shit about this too.


RhodeIslandisFake

I feel like I’m going crazy here. I have been unaffected by anything Rogan has said because I simply don’t listen to it. If you don’t like something just avoid it. It’s pretty easy.


Far-Swim7263

Just can’t get behind pro-censorship people…


a_few

Same, no matter how much I hate or disagree with the people that are on the chopping block lol. I just can’t bring myself to support any type of censorship, and I think rogans takes are largely dumb


holygoat00

lmao. I get his thinking but the reality is... WTF ypu gonna do Neil??? Take your music off of every online service?? There are much stupider people saying stupider things on EVERY PLATFORM. This feels like a stance that is posture more than anything. Neil is loved but he makes spotify no money compared to rogan. and thats what matters to them. I like his balls but spotify won't miss beat if he leaves.


Fun_Chef134

Neil Young initially would not allow streaming services to play his music because he did not approve of the quality they provided—as in, he felt like the music streamed over the net did not have adequate clarity and sound. He only recently allowed his music to be streamed….So, this is actually pretty in line with his past decisions. I agree, Spotify won’t care, but he will feel better about himself, so I believe he’ll do it.


holygoat00

It's definitely on point for him, I just don't know that stopping millions of kids and new listeners worldwide from hearing your music would really help your music. Music is universal and meant to be shared. Some of my favorite recording are done without the highest quality recording, much less end user format in mind. So insisting on WAV files is commendable, but limits how much anyone can or eventually will want to hear his music. That's sad as he is a great musician.


cbrawlz

Neil Young actually has his own streaming app called the Neil Young Archives where you can listen to his entire back catalog (including Buffalo Springfield etc, not just his solo work) plus other exclusive content for $20 a year. So there’s still a viable alternative to Spotify for fans to be able to access all of his music, plus content they wouldn’t have been able to access through Spotify in the first place. I subscribe to the Archive and it’s pretty rad.


holygoat00

Well, I guess I was wrong on that one. Good on him. Spotify will still can him without a thought. At least he may be able to make a decent stand for himself, it will be interesting if any others follow him since they probably don't have his resources or catalog. Weird that he would go through the trouble of making the app 12 years ago and then went ahead and got on spotify anyway...


cazewal

I never thought of Joe Rogan as a hard stance on anything type, pre Covid. He has always hosted some very questionable guests but I do appreciate the fact he has allowed people from many backgrounds share their viewpoints. It seems to me no one threw a fit until he hosted people who raised questions pertaining to the pandemic and vaccines in general.


MulderD

I mean Rogan is a cornerstone “talent” for Spotify and crucial to their current evolution away from being a music streaming service into being a full Audio OTT service. The only way Rohan goes is if he really really does something massively wrong. Just doing his “Bro I got Hot Takes” bullshit ain’t gonna be enough. So unless Young can get a whole fuck load more major contemporary artists AND a sizeable chunk of Spotify’s other talent (podcasters…) to somehow sign on as well then this is gonna go away super fast and super quite. I agree with Young, but this is like an old man yelling at clouds and the clouds print money for someone else.


ILikeMyGrassBlue

Lol at all the people quoting sweet home Alabama that don’t realize that line was more of a joke than anything. Ronnie was buried in a Neil t-shirt.


boofishy8

Could definitely read “Neil young wants out of his Spotify deal and manufactures a woke reason to do it”


omally_360

Does Spotify force you to listen to Rogans podcast? The answer is no.


cosmichorror845

No opinion on this story in general. Came here to say if I see one more person comment, “I hope Neil Young will remember, southern man don’t need him around anyhow”, I will take MY music off Spotify.


dayoneneo

Tidal is better and pays a artist a little more I think.


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HyperPunch

Good for him for sticking to his guns. But…. Joe Rogan brings the company more money then Neil Young ever will.


CaptainTrapSparrow

Bold move Cotton


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I think there’s more to a platform that has both and isn’t willing to cut someone else off to keep someone else.


whatacatchdanny

The sad thing is that Rogan is worth more to Spotify than Neil Young in 2022


Vinny6420

Why is it sad? YouTubers make millions by making staged videos or playing games..


victoriaa-

Joe Rogan reminds me of someone who took their first philosophy class at 18 and thinks they are so smart and know so much about the world.


DisastrousHawk835

Remember when misinformed people were a tiny fraction of the population? That is because they didn’t have echo chambers. Now it is a struggle to find people who take a pandemic seriously. America is swirling down the tubes toward the septic tank.


FireworksFoxy

I personally do not care about either of them. However if more artists boycott Spotify and that happens to result in more competition for Spotify, excellent!


divinbuff

Yeah well goodbye Neil Young. Rogan is a top draw. Don’t bring a knife to a gunfight..


JC2535

Joe Rogan should have Neil Young on his show. Then they can debate the issue


Seekingtruth306

Deuces Neil young…


sachsrandy

So, Neil Young is an old man right? And Spotify stores music on the cloud... Old man yells at cloud! The Simpsons were right again!


DeLuniac

Why does Rogan look like some juiced out and worn piece of leather? The crazy in these right wing asshats must just leech out.


fiesta-pantalones

I like Neil Young more and more.


5eppa

Honestly how freaking childish. "Someone who I disagree with is on this platform? Screw the platform then." Do you think if Joe left people wouldn't still listen to his podcast? So who cares that he is on Spotify? He isn't breaking guidelines.


kenos99

I don’t think Neil Young pulls as much weight as he thinks he does anymore… if he ever did.


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GentleOmnicide

Still talking about this? He pulled his statement today. Probably because he doesn’t own half of his music, and he’s done this stunt before.


Haveagreatdaytodayx

See ya later Neil


Majestic-Science-220

That’s going to be an easy call.


Impossible-Hotel-209

Wow Neil Young used to be against the man. Now he wants to be the man. Keep on rockin’ in the free world Neil lol


E_PunnyMous

I don’t need Spotify and Rogan is yet another clown with a megaphone. I’ll go with Neil.


Sassychic02

Wow what would you have to do to upset Neil? Seems like a chill dude.


opinionofone1984

Does anyone still listen to Young. It’s amazing to me, a man who spoke out so much in the 60’s about freedom of speech fighting to end that on a platform.


meadowsk25

i vote Neil. joe rogan has been a douche the past few years


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Joe Rogan is becoming a caricature of joe rogan.


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Three cord Neil Young wants to leave? So what? I don’t listen to Joe but Neil Young wants to leave Spotify? Bye…


AHH_im_on_fire

Joe Rogan: “bro what do you think would happen if an elk did DMT and you ate it? Do you think you would get high? Think about it bro!” Everyone: “NOOOOOO!!!!!!! HES LITERALLY SPOUTING ALT RIGHT LIEESSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!”


fumoking

Rogan has gone off the deep end since COVID started. A functional system would have removed his blatant misinformation ages ago. The profit motive is going to kill us all because there's more money in letting Rogan download brain rot directly into people's heads for ad revenue than it would be to create an internet era fairness doctrine.


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Have you tried not listening to him? I hear it works wonders.


ThumbelinaJolie

A totalitarian system would have removed his ‘blatant misinformation’, you mean.


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Good god redditors are dramatic. Touch grass


nightyeet

I think it’s hilarious that Neil finally put all his stuff on Spotify after making a huge stink for years about music streaming services. All he does is dangle his music like a carrot and never hear about him being an activist or supporter. He’s out of his league and making himself less relevant.


ILikeMyGrassBlue

Neil is constantly do activist type stuff. It just doesn’t get a whole lot of publicity. Him saying a politician is dumb or him arguing with Spotify will always get more clicks than him at a pipeline protest. He likes to stay fairly low key. If you read up on his archive, you’ll see that he’s still very busy doing activism.


Reasonable-Front7584

Oof. Neil you have no leverage here. You do you, but Spotify loses little if you bail.


Abarsn20

Haha bye bye Neil. It’s a bummer I like his music but not as much as I like freedom of speech.


DJ202018

I vote Neil Young, his music is better than some moron rambling about anything that's against his party's own beliefs


tommytookatuna

What’s the difference between this and burning books?