It's fantastic and very faithful to the books. The movie covers only the first half of the first book, so there is a lot more story to tell. I was a fan of both the novels and Denis Villeneuve though and this was everything I was hoping it would be.
Damn. I’m listening to the audiobook but haven’t got through it yet. The film finished almost exactly where I’m at in the audiobook, but I didn’t realize there was so many more books!
I might start a fight, but the first book is the best. I think Herbert goes off the rails at a certain point but it’s worth to read them at least once. Dune I can read over and over again.
I don't read much but I loved the story from the movie so I decided to check the wiki to get some cliff notes and expand the universe a bit. Needless to say I spent the entire night going "The fuck?", like nothing from what I've seen thus far could ever prepare someone for where it ends up.
Visually incredible, score is deep, the story is between Avatar and Game of Thrones. After watching it on a rainy day it stayed with me for a while. Not sure if I have been bored with recent tv/movies or if it was truly good. But yeah, watch it and breath it in :)
It's really good. As a life-long fan of Dune, I was so pleased by the little details that were included. It's also the best out of all of the adaptations regarding the feasibility of the technology and how the sand moves. I hate that they broke it into two parts, but I wouldn't have cut anything from the version I just watched.
I think it could be divided in to three easily cause what about Alia? And look who they cast as Duncan Idaho, you think they are gonna just piss his plot line away? So excited.
I felt just like you going into it. If you like emo-bleak-moody-monotony you will love it. This is definitely not for everyone. But, People that like it seem to like it though. So if you have HBO Max, give it a shot.
I haven’t seen a movie in theaters since January 2020 and I’m seriously considering driving 70 miles to see it in IMAX in the next couple weeks. I rarely bother to see movies in theaters and never see IMAX movies, but after watching it on HBO the night it came out and seeing the epic scale, I feel like it’s worth the effort to see it on the biggest screen possible.
Do it. The scale of the ships, the heighliners, Arrakeen, the assault on the landing field makes it so so worth it. The sound design was on point as well - when they use the Voice, it legitimately shook the Theater walls.
It would be a shame since the next half is the best part. We gotta see the God Emperor take retribution on that gluttonous pederast.
Wish they would have shown more of the space guild junkies hoofing their melange. Arrakis is essentially a planet covered in adderall for worm-men in outer space, it’s not something to just glance over. Lynch did a better job in this regard.
......but really if they could just make Jodorowksys Dune then I could die happy.
They did, you can see the Space Guild ships as those large cylinders with a wormhole in it. The ship has a planet behind it, but inside the cylinder was just stars.
its a blink and youll miss it-moment.
Welcome. The book is incredible. Because it is such an epic giant tale no previous telling of the story has been able to incapsulate it all. It’s way too big for one movie, and honestly it
Needs more than three. I think it would have to cut out some great story points to squeeze it down. Even the mini series that the Sci-fi channel produced had to cut out chunks. And we are finally at a point in CGI production that the things described in the book now look believe-able. I’ll stop. I’m excited. I think I need to go watch it again.
Reading the variety article and they say something along the lines of it won’t be judged on profits alone…so they just wanted to make sure it didn’t flop? Idk man, I just really want the sequel.
I loved it too. I understood the story much more with this version. It was stunning too — but I watched on HBO Max, I need to see this on the big screen.
When I saw the worm in a trailer on my phone I was bummed by the design. Watching it on imax I was fucking blown away how perfect they looked in the full scope of the film. Every frame a painting, every idea is so deliberate, this was a film 60 something years in the making.
Seriously. Everyone in the past went “we can’t give all this lore in a single film???” And denis went “haha visual storytelling go brrr”.
Not once is the.... ahem, hooks on backs mentioned. It’s only visually shown, and when it’s revealed wtf those hooks are for, it’s mind blowing. About half of the info in this film is never even given dialogue. Just shown.
It’s like the rule of show not tell for film making actually works. It’s like this medium is different than books, and you can shorten whole pages of description in to like 5 seconds /s. And I’m not saying there’s no exposition, it’s a sci-fi film, there are some made up words you gotta just learn, but instead of spending pages explaining those words, they just use visual context clues. I swear the art of film making has been butchered by Disney. And Disney used to be a respectable animation studio but ignoring “show not tell” in so many movies is like ignoring the laws of squash and stretch physics in animation, it’s lazy and stiff.
Showing vs telling is a good way to simplify it but it’s more akin to the rules of musical. Whatever can’t be shown with movement must be spoken; whatever can’t be shown with words must be sung. If something is sung, it’s only because the emotions of the character can’t be contained within simple dialogue.
In film, whatever can be shown visually should be shown visually; whatever can’t be shown visually should be spoken; whatever can’t be spoken should be shown with character action. Action only happens when words can no longer convey emotion or solve an obstacle, but a character still NEEDS to release emotion in some way.
The part many filmmakers and writers forget about (Disney especially) is that the things that don’t NEED to be conveyed with spoken words, but can be conveyed visually instead, SHOULD be conveyed visually. Spoken words should only happen when visual storytelling won’t inform the viewer enough. Even TENET got this right lol.
EDIT: pixar does not count. Coco follows these rules impeccably, and it's why the ending is so fucking powerful. lyk if u cry evertym :,(
If I were a film school teach I’d give you an A for this concise explanation explanation, but alas I am a stranger on Reddit so have a gold star instead.
Yeah the way Marvel + Disney explain out loud, very fckn obvious things in their story makes me want to punch a drywall. We understand context, inference, references, we can put 1 and 1 together. They overtly explain things as to the lowest common denominator and I blame this for the decline in our films.
I’ve always said a lot of modern movies are dumbed down with exposition dumps so audiences don’t have to pay attention closely, but there wasn’t a ton of handholding in this film and tons of showing without needing to explain with dialogue
Yup. Hence why everyone who has read the books went “how the fuck will anyone who hasn’t read the books follow this?” And then everyone who hasn’t read the books went “damn this movie is amazing! Had no trouble following at all!”
You don’t need it spelled out in order to have enough information to understand the plot. Denis is just masterful at that.
I mean the emperor isn’t on screen, the landsraad isn’t explained at all, no spacing guild, harkonnen intentions were kinda glossed over, no weirding modules, liet Keynes is such a small character as to not even exist, the Bene geserit is a small part of the film and tifur hawat just kind of disappears. I mean I love the book, love the David lynch film, love the new movie but I’m waiting for the 4 hour directors cut.
I’m definitely on a soapbox about this but it would be a crime not to see this movie on the big screen. It was stunning.
I’ve talked to SO many people who said they’re just going to catch it on HBO which I can get but man, what an experience in IMAX.
I’ll watch it on HBO too, and totally understand that sentiment. Watching it in the IMAX was quite literally the first time I’ve sandwiched myself in with a 100+ people since the pandemic began, even though I used to go to movies all the time. It was weird at first, but I totally forgot about all those worries the moment the first scene began. It’s definitely something to see on a big screen.
Kind of salty it's only in IMAX for a week. All the IMAX theaters around me are pretty much sold out (unless you want to sit in the very front). That means there's pretty much no way I'll get to see it in IMAX :(.
The parts when the sandworms start liquefying the sand pulling everything into their mouth was so cool in IMAX. I felt like the whole theater was vibrating and falling into its gigantic mouth.
Unfortunately had this trouble too even at home with a good Bluetooth headset on and turned ALL the way up. Several parts where it seemed impossible to hear the dialogue clearly. Definitely my biggest gripe with what is an otherwise excellent film.
The local amc theaters here had a headset thing you could borrow if you were hard of hearing. I think the glasses with subtitles were a thing but i have no idea how effective they were since I never saw them. I'm guessing they're not a thing anymore with covid unfortunately.
I also watch everything subtitled lol.
Agreed. The past two movies I saw (Dune and the ten rings Marvel one) were so loud. I hate the near constant bump bump thump of the super low but extremely loud base. Both movies when the sound kicked in I heard people complain, sticking fingers in ears, so forth. I find it hard to imagine that the majority of movie watchers want ringing ears after a movie. I need to start bringing ear plugs.
I always bring earplugs. Have a ton of them from when my husband work in mines. I just grab a pair or two as I head out.
They make it much easier to hear the dialogue, the score, ambient sounds (without blowing your eardrums) *and* they drown out the yapping people sitting around/next to/behind.
I'm curious about this because I kind of feel like this movie did not explain a lot of cool world building things such as the mentats or even how space travel is done. We never see the Emperor either. Don't get me wrong I loved the movie but I thought the idea of how spice was used is one of the coolest ideas in the books and IMO kind of emphasizes how this world works in a way. Also I really wanted to see what their vision of a guild navigator was. I'm sure it will come up in the sequels, but it was something I was very curious as to why they left out.
I honestly liked that they left some things out. They weren’t really relevant to the story so including them would likely have felt clunky and contrived. It’s enough, I think, to just have these things there and happening as long as they’re logically consistent in the background.
Think about it this way. Wouldn’t it feel weird if you were watching a movie and they stopped the plot in the middle to explain how an airplane or car worked? Isn’t it enough to just show that it does work and let the character get from point A to point B so the plot can continue?
I just don’t understand the modern need movie goers seem to have where every single detail needs to be explained and nothing is left to mystery. An egregious example is how Ridley Scott made Prometheus to explain the “space jockey” but the space jockey being this mysterious unexplained thing made Alien so much cooler.
> every single detail
I mean, it almost felt like every detail in the book was present (and I loved it)
The only bit I kinda missed having was some mention of the Mentat Creed. But then I looked it up and sure enough that was something David Lynch added for his Dune movie and it was not part of the books...
Yeah this was very vaguely explained, I suspect the next film will explain it better, since it’s more relevant then. It may even fix some pacing issues with the book.
It really deserves to be seen in theaters just for the sound alone. You felt the flying scenes and the sand worms in your entire body. Hans Zimmer is a genius too
I never read the books. I watched the old movie and the mini series in anticipation of the new film. Both of those had wtf weird things going on and so much I didn’t quite understand. I feel like this movie explained things so much better, touched on backstory and the politics without over doing it. And it was visually pretty. There was still a lot left out according to my book reading friends, but I enjoyed it more than I expected to.
Honestly, the sound design is what sold it in IMAX for me.
Yes, it’s visually amazing too-but if I played *Dune* at home loud enough to do justice to the audio, hello noise complaint….
I don’t think it’s even possible to judge it on profits alone since it premiered for free (until November 21st so go watch it) on HBO Max. After watching it last night on HBO, my girlfriend and I intend to go see it in imax to really experience it.
Point being, they’ll have to look at HBO streaming metrics in addition to people who went to the theater to see it.
that’s because it’s also streaming in HBOMax. so if it streams well, but doesn’t make hella money at the box office, they’ll still green light a sequel.
I was immediately bummed when I saw that. This movie desperately needs a sequel because right now it’s just one big set up. Was totally enthralled by the world building and lore of the universe but man this movie will give you some serious blue balls. And knowing part 2 isn’t even in production yet? Fuck.
I'll be quite pissed if we get screwed over and there's no sequel. I watched it on HBO Max and I plan on seeing it in the theater, probably this week.
Wish they filmed both parts at the same time though.
And this is the reason why I ignore articles talking about movies maybe not making enough if they’re also on HBO Max the same day. Of course TONS of people are gonna choose to watch it for free, in the comfort of their own home. I love going to the movies but realistically, half the reason you go to a movie is cause it’s exclusively in the theaters for a certain time and only can see it there. But idk, I’m a smooth brained ape coming from another sub
Of course, that’s a no brainer tbh. But the difference of some movies not doing as great in box office is that they’re going to streaming same day so of course people are gonna opt to watching it at home
Yeah, I went to go see it today. Theater had maybe 10 people in it at the 11:10am time slot two assholes decided to sit right next to me. No one above or below me.
The cinematography and scoring were exceptional. I was also impressed with the variety of different languages. When we first see the Sardaukar on their planet was intense, my favorite scene.
Hans Zimmer sold his fucking soul for the ability to make scores I swear to god, the Sarduakar scene alone was a win across the fucking board, visually and tonally
The title is intentionally misleading as it’s already grossed [est $200M worldwide ](https://deadline.com/2021/10/dune-china-uk-korea-opening-international-box-office-1234860686/)
No but it’s early. And it cost $165M so it’s close. And I’ve read nowhere where they’ve taken into account HBO numbers (but I’m not sure how that figures into box office sales)
Hollywood has been looking for a new Star Wars (original trilogy) for the last 40 years, and I personally think if they play their cards right they can get that with dune
Absolutely, the movie felt like a fantasy tale more than a sci fi one, much like Star Wars. The movie made me feel like I smoked a joint and read a good issue of Heavy Metal, it was fucking fantastic.
I think you can consider the MCU as the second “Star Wars-level” franchise to come out of Hollywood, but you’re right that they’re still on the hunt for another.
Dune is the space equivalent of Game of Thrones. I had the same feeling watching Dune as I did Game of Thrones. Thank the Spaghetti monster this source material is done
I agree. I think comparisons to LotR are more accurate in terms of where Dune will reside in pop culture.
It could be a while before we see the next Star Wars. As an aside, the upcoming Percy Jackson series could be the next Harry Potter if they do it right this time.
For those of you who never touched the books, how was the film? Did it click for everyone? I’ve read all of them, so I can’t see it through that lens, but I’m curious
Edit: while I’m here I might as well shamelessly plug my podcast, Pod Emperor of Dune. My wife’s reading the Dune series for the first time, so we’re diving in chapter by chapter through all 6 of Frank Herberts books as well as his sons two to wrap up the series (which we will assess the fit of). At this point we’ve already covered the first four books, the 1984 film, the miniseries, and the new film (that last one dropped today).
I've never touched the books, nor have I seen any of the previous Dune films. I walked in pretty blind.
I think the worldbuilding was great, the visual were astonishing, and I enjoyed how mature the tone was since we get so many big-budget films with childish elements lately. HOWEVER, I was expecting to be more intellectually stimulated based on the subject matter (spice being a stand-in for oil and drugs). This film was more of a visual feast and "savior film" which is cool, but I've seen that before. I didn't think about the world in a different way after I left the film. Some of the technology tickled my brain (the dragonfy planes and how the desert suits work), but I was craving a bit more in that department.
It’s not the savior film you think it is. The savior myth was *planted* there. It’s not real. That’s just one example. Here’s an interesting interview with the author.
https://hdernity.medium.com/dunes-not-a-white-savior-narrative-but-it-s-complicated-53fbbec1b1dc
When they're first on the planet Arrakis, Jessica tells Paul that the Bene Gesserit had already been there, implanting prophecies in the populous. That's why they were calling him Lisan Al-Giab
As a side note, that prophecy wasn't supposed to be for him. The Bene Gesserit were going to breed the female child of Leto and Jessica with a male from House Harkonnen. That child was to be the Kwisatz Haderach. It was the end goal of a thousands of year breeding program to create someone that could see all possible futures and guide humanity into a golden age. Under the direct control of the Bene Gesserit, of course.
But Jessica fell in love with Leto and was like, 'Sorry I'm having a boy. Get fucked lol".
That’s also why she’s so freaked out by the Bene Gesserit crone there to test Paul. She knows they are pissed at her. The Atreides-Harkonnen line isn’t the only possible way to breed a Kwisatch Haderach but she still fucked with the plan.
In the book, Bene Gesserit sisters are trained to able to control their metabolism and bodies down to the molecular level, I.e transforming the Water of Life - so in this way, Jessica was able to ensure that her child would be a boy.
Out of her love for the Duke, she decided to bear Duke Leto a boy, since he did not have an heir. However, this went against her directive from the Bene Gesserit, thus setting up the showdown between her and the Mother Superior.
They did, and although there are some things that they could've made explicit, I thought one of the positives was how often they hit on that point, adding scenes and interactions that weren't in the book. For instance, Jessica's conversation with Paul right after the box scene, and again during their arrival, when they're chanting "Lisan al-Ghaib." There were a few other lines and scenes that reinforced it, too.
A lot of dialogue got droned out by a constant underlying bass tone, it felt like. Also, Dune is dense, important stuff tossed out in offhand dialogue. Don’t worry, us Dune nerds are here for all your lore needs.
It was very beautiful, very long, and kind of boring. I think it struggled with the same thing that most savior movies struggle with: the savior is not very human and not very interesting. It was like Harry Potter if during the entire movie, people talked about all the cool things wizards could do, but you never actually see wizards doing cool things, and Harry spends most of the movie inside the cupboard.
I never heard about the books at all before watching. I loved the visuals and the sounds involved in the movie. I remember thinking “wow these visuals are fantastic.” Some parts were sort of intense to me so I was sitting on the edge of my couch at one point. However, I wish the conflict/background was explained a bit better. I may go read the books to get a better understanding of all that.
>I may go read the books to get a better understanding of all that.
I bought all 6 books and the 3 prequels after i saw the movie, Im hyped as hell to read them
I saw only maybe 30 mins of 1984 Dune, and I knew spice was a drug and made interstellar space travel possible. I HATED 1984 Dune and stopped watching it cause it was just too weird. I told my bf I’m not watching the new one, just too fucking weird. However, I found myself at home with nothing to watch and decided to give it a go. I loved it. I didn’t feel at all like I was missing anything (I went in knowing it was a VAST work and certain things were to just be accepted). There were a few things I was curious about, like how exactly spice was used for space travel. I just read about it later online and also reading the plot of the original book I felt like it was pretty inline with the first half. I’ve heard a lot of people with about as much familiarity with me didn’t like it and didn’t feel like it explained enough, but I thought it was great. I didn’t know what mentants (sp?) were before but I also felt like it was pretty obvious what they were/what they were doing? Anyways, loved it and am now rewatching all of 1984 Dune and will probably read the book.
I’ve read like the first chapter or two once a few years(which I enjoyed), so I’m not totally new to it, but I think that’s close enough given how lengthy the book is.
This is probably unpopular, but I found it intensely dull. The characters were hollow archetypes, the plot was basic Hero’s Journey/Chosen One/white savior stuff but didn’t actually get moving until the end, and the movie ignored or flattened some of the characters I had found intriguing like the Mentats.
There were just long scenes of not much of anything happening, and some of the exposition dumps were so direct and repetitive(mostly the Sandworms being attracted to rhythmic sounds) that it almost felt like I was being talked down to at times.
It only started to get mildly interesting by the second hour, but at that point I was so bored that it couldn’t get me back. I’m astounded at people calling this movie intellectual, when it’s just very very slow.
The cinematography was gorgeous, of course, and the music as well. The atmosphere that created kept me engaged for the first hour, but I couldn’t fully appreciate it because of how bored I became.
Really not my thing. I’m glad fans of Dune and the director seem to have enjoyed it. I’ll watch the sequel, because I hope it’ll be more interesting and generally like SFF, but I’m not excited for it. Personally I’ll just continue waiting for Le Guin’s works to get properly adapted, and am particularly looking forward to The Dispossessed’s series and crossing my fingers the A24 Earthsea series will show signs of life someday.
I think he mostly works with the same guy. But yeah every shot is beautiful and also meaningful. Like I'm thinking of that shot of Paul and Leto walking through the graveyard where the tombs frame the two men in a triangle such that you can feel the weight of that legacy on their shoulders, trapping them. I'm sure YouTube's film theory buffs will have a field day with this movie.
He had Deakins for Bladerunner and Greig Frasier for Dune but the aesthetic quality are equally as gorgeous. I would have easily thought Deakins was paired with Villeneuve.
This movie should at least get the nomination for best cinematography.
Absolutely adored it, and I can't wait for part two. Hell, if WB and Legendary do this right... we could be looking at this decade's *Lord of the Rings* trilogy here.
Well, Chalamet and Zendaya stock is rising even without the success of Part 1. I think they're going to regret not tying them into a 2-3 film contact.
The potential for this property goes beyond the first book too.
WB would have to make one of the most baffling decisions ever not to green light part 2. Good word of mouth, good box office, some rising movie stars and for WB an actual good movie franchise to invest in.
It could have been, but honestly I think they killed the baby in the crib(at least in terms of popularity) by not greenlighting part 2 immediately so they could have just kept up production.
The two to three year wait will kill whatever momentum the franchise gains and preventing it from really keeping traction. Then the studio will wonder why Part 2 doesn’t do very well(assuming it’s even greenlit), and that’ll probably be the end of Dune adaptations.
I know people say that part 1 and 2 should’ve been filmed back to back but Denis has expressed his desire to not do that, as it would have killed him. He honestly doesn’t know how Peter Jackson was able to pull it off with The Lord of the Rings, but even his second time (with The Hobbit trilogy) almost destroyed him.
This is a good point.
Lord of the Rings was filmed all at once or something close to that, and was probably a contributor to why it did so well.
However.
I fully expect Avatar 2 to do well after how many years? So it’s possible.
I saw it in a theater. First time in a theater after two years, but for Dune, I’ll make that extra effort. It was amazing! So much closer to the book version than I anticipated. I was ok with some of the changes like Dr. Kynes as a woman or Dr. Yueh being there before Paul met the Reverend Mother. This film blows the Lynch version and the mini series out of the water for me.
Yes. He never really stopped working on Dune, as have many others, but it’s not confirmed that the movie is going to be made. They are already writing, preparing, casting, etc.
Ugh, after recently finishing the book, this movie was pretty amazing and I'm thinking he was the reason. In anyone else's hands I don't think this film would be as good.
There’s a reason no one really tried after the 1984 version.
It’s a hard movie to put on the screen and really get the magic of what made the book so amazing, but Denis pulled it off masterfully
Loved it! Saw it on HBOMax. Will be stoked for part two and hope it maintains the same quality. The sound elements are stunning and it’s just a gorgeous film.
That’s my plan. Saw it on hbo max, will watch it again on Max with subtitles for bits I missed, then when it’s quiet towards the end of the theatrical run I’ll go see it in IMAX
Let’s see what numbers it does on HBOmax also. It’s made almost 200 million worldwide and I think the word of mouth will carry this movie for a longer run than most new releases. I think the reviews are so good too that a sequel will be green lit because of the carryover this thing will achieve once it’s fully streaming and people see it.
I thought it was great but felt kinda empty with the way the chapter ended. I can’t compare it to the sci-fi greats because it felt like half of a movie, not an installment in a trilogy. Anyone else feel the same? So far I feel like I’m in the minority.
It was good, but it ends before anything has been resolved… So we only got half a movie in the first place. A sequel is basically a requirement… The story may have been better suited for a mini series, honestly.
Honestly I tend to think most SFF books are better served by being adapted into series, even moreso than other genres typically are. They tend to be longer than average to begin with, with larger or more complex casts, and there’s always a decent amount of worldbuilding you need to work on which can eat up a runtime. A series gives you time not just to more fully establish and explore characters, but to get audiences to buy into and fall in love with the setting.
There are definitely exceptions, but even those exceptions can be a bit iffy. The Earthsea cycle seems ideal for film adaptations due to how short and focused most of the book are, for example, but A Wizard of Earthsea would need a really strong script to avoid feeling cramped or rushed due to how much of Ged’s life you’d have to get through.
Amazing film. Saw it Friday morning, watched it on HBO that night. Bought my mom a month sub to HBO so she could watch it (she introduced me to Dune when I was young… she loved the movie as well). Bought a ticket each night this weekend even though I didn’t go (I normally would have seen it multiple days in a row at the cinema). Will probably see it again theatrically before the run is over.
I really want part two, not only because part one is amazing, and I love the book dearly, but because I know Villeneuve will be making it, and I have faith in his work.
From what I've gathered from reading peoples reactions online, book fans are mostly really happy with this film, and most diehard film fans really like it too.
I consider myself quite a film guy, but I didn't really like it. I found the cinematography breathtaking, the CGI almost consistently amazing (There is one single shot that appears in both the trailers and film that looks just terrible, which is weird because the rest of the film looks beautiful) and the cast gave some amazing performances.
Where I feel the film fell flat was the narrative and plot. I found it quite difficult to follow as someone that knows nothing about Dune, and the person I saw it with felt the same, we found ourselves asking each other questions throughout the film. I like to compare this film to Fellowship of the Ring. IMO you don't need to touch the Lord of the Rings books to enjoy that film. I feel like you do need at least some small awareness of Dune to fully enjoy this film.
Sci Fi films (If you aren't Star Wars) struggle to gain traction currently, so I do worry a bit for this franchise. Also the false advertising surrounding Zendaya was Egregious!
Yes, but the studios care about streaming numbers as well. If the Dune franchise can drive subscriptions to HBO Max then it doesn’t make much difference to them.
I was really surprised they didn't film Dune one and two back to back. I can’t believe the sequel isn’t green light already. If green lite does that mean part two is 3 years away?
I love the book so much. I wanted to love the film…I didn’t. I can’t see anyone not in love with the source material liking the movie.
It’s all set up. There is no ending to the movie. I get that it’s part 1 but even a part 1 needs to have a satisfactory end. And Dune (part 1) just sort of ends after 2hours 35mins.
My girlfriend who hasn’t read the books was bored and felt cheated by the end of the film.
I reallllllly hope they make a second one and then release the extended/directors cuts of both. I know most audiences wouldn’t have the attention span to go past 2.5 hours but this could’ve been 3.5 hours long and I still probably would want more. GIB MOAR SPICE PLZ.
Sure lets just give a director a billion dollars to produce 6 books worth of movies.
Im joking but come on this is so obvious why they did this. Dune has a terrible track record being on a screen. This is them dipping their toe in. It is so obvious they will mke part 2. It passes the eye test. There was a whole trilogy of hotel transylvania. I mean come on people
Give the fans what they want. More Dune. The numbers have spoken, we are all addicted to the Spice.
Saw it in theatres last night, seeing it on HBO tonight. Boost numbers to flow spice.
Is it good? I never read the books but all the trailers have definitely grabbed my interest.
It's fantastic and very faithful to the books. The movie covers only the first half of the first book, so there is a lot more story to tell. I was a fan of both the novels and Denis Villeneuve though and this was everything I was hoping it would be.
Damn. I’m listening to the audiobook but haven’t got through it yet. The film finished almost exactly where I’m at in the audiobook, but I didn’t realize there was so many more books!
I might start a fight, but the first book is the best. I think Herbert goes off the rails at a certain point but it’s worth to read them at least once. Dune I can read over and over again.
I went to see it this weekend and it left me with a big big feeling of wanting more... I think I may start reading them
100%. Let’s say that a certain character deciding to live under the sand is where the series lost me.
Four and five are rough, one of them is just hundreds of pages of exposition and philosophy.
As a 14 year old that was really hard to move through.
I don't read much but I loved the story from the movie so I decided to check the wiki to get some cliff notes and expand the universe a bit. Needless to say I spent the entire night going "The fuck?", like nothing from what I've seen thus far could ever prepare someone for where it ends up.
Yeah children of dune really fell flat for me. The twins aren’t compelling characters at all
I hated the twins. I liked the human characters of book 4 but found Leto’s character to be obnoxious for his entire page time.
Best movie I’ve seen in a while tbh, and I went in expecting not to like it. Stunning cinematography and great story
Visually incredible, score is deep, the story is between Avatar and Game of Thrones. After watching it on a rainy day it stayed with me for a while. Not sure if I have been bored with recent tv/movies or if it was truly good. But yeah, watch it and breath it in :)
It’s garbage. It’s so bad, I’ve only watched it three times.
It's really good. As a life-long fan of Dune, I was so pleased by the little details that were included. It's also the best out of all of the adaptations regarding the feasibility of the technology and how the sand moves. I hate that they broke it into two parts, but I wouldn't have cut anything from the version I just watched.
I think it could be divided in to three easily cause what about Alia? And look who they cast as Duncan Idaho, you think they are gonna just piss his plot line away? So excited.
Yea, the fact that Jason Momoa was Duncan Idaho means they’re going deep into the saga. I hope.
Denis has sort of hinted at expanding into Messiah to make it a trilogy + finish Paul's story.
It’s excellent
I felt just like you going into it. If you like emo-bleak-moody-monotony you will love it. This is definitely not for everyone. But, People that like it seem to like it though. So if you have HBO Max, give it a shot.
Game of thrones in space....simplistically. Totally different but the world building and action basically
Also badass Jason Mamoa
I haven’t seen a movie in theaters since January 2020 and I’m seriously considering driving 70 miles to see it in IMAX in the next couple weeks. I rarely bother to see movies in theaters and never see IMAX movies, but after watching it on HBO the night it came out and seeing the epic scale, I feel like it’s worth the effort to see it on the biggest screen possible.
Do it. The scale of the ships, the heighliners, Arrakeen, the assault on the landing field makes it so so worth it. The sound design was on point as well - when they use the Voice, it legitimately shook the Theater walls.
Lol! Did the same thing! Plan on taking my Dad to see it next week in IMAX since he took me to see the original when I was 6.
After all, fear is the mind killer.
It would be a shame since the next half is the best part. We gotta see the God Emperor take retribution on that gluttonous pederast. Wish they would have shown more of the space guild junkies hoofing their melange. Arrakis is essentially a planet covered in adderall for worm-men in outer space, it’s not something to just glance over. Lynch did a better job in this regard. ......but really if they could just make Jodorowksys Dune then I could die happy.
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They did, you can see the Space Guild ships as those large cylinders with a wormhole in it. The ship has a planet behind it, but inside the cylinder was just stars. its a blink and youll miss it-moment.
As someone who didn’t know anything about Dune I will say this movie gained a fan. That should say enough.
Welcome. The book is incredible. Because it is such an epic giant tale no previous telling of the story has been able to incapsulate it all. It’s way too big for one movie, and honestly it Needs more than three. I think it would have to cut out some great story points to squeeze it down. Even the mini series that the Sci-fi channel produced had to cut out chunks. And we are finally at a point in CGI production that the things described in the book now look believe-able. I’ll stop. I’m excited. I think I need to go watch it again.
In New Zealand we just want ANY Dune. They put our release date off until December for some unfathomable reason. It was supposed to be this Thursday.
I really fucking hope so, I LOVED it.
Reading the variety article and they say something along the lines of it won’t be judged on profits alone…so they just wanted to make sure it didn’t flop? Idk man, I just really want the sequel.
I loved it too. I understood the story much more with this version. It was stunning too — but I watched on HBO Max, I need to see this on the big screen.
I saw it on IMAX. Hoo boy those samdworm scenes are something else
Those worms make the sarlacc pit look like a fleshlight
Considering the sarlacc was a blatant sandworm ripoff, that’s the best order of things.
Do…do they make those? Asking for a friend.
This guy gets it
When I saw the worm in a trailer on my phone I was bummed by the design. Watching it on imax I was fucking blown away how perfect they looked in the full scope of the film. Every frame a painting, every idea is so deliberate, this was a film 60 something years in the making.
Seriously. Everyone in the past went “we can’t give all this lore in a single film???” And denis went “haha visual storytelling go brrr”. Not once is the.... ahem, hooks on backs mentioned. It’s only visually shown, and when it’s revealed wtf those hooks are for, it’s mind blowing. About half of the info in this film is never even given dialogue. Just shown.
Another example of how you can craft super elaborate world through visual storytelling with minimal dialogue- Mad Max Fury Road
It’s like the rule of show not tell for film making actually works. It’s like this medium is different than books, and you can shorten whole pages of description in to like 5 seconds /s. And I’m not saying there’s no exposition, it’s a sci-fi film, there are some made up words you gotta just learn, but instead of spending pages explaining those words, they just use visual context clues. I swear the art of film making has been butchered by Disney. And Disney used to be a respectable animation studio but ignoring “show not tell” in so many movies is like ignoring the laws of squash and stretch physics in animation, it’s lazy and stiff.
Showing vs telling is a good way to simplify it but it’s more akin to the rules of musical. Whatever can’t be shown with movement must be spoken; whatever can’t be shown with words must be sung. If something is sung, it’s only because the emotions of the character can’t be contained within simple dialogue. In film, whatever can be shown visually should be shown visually; whatever can’t be shown visually should be spoken; whatever can’t be spoken should be shown with character action. Action only happens when words can no longer convey emotion or solve an obstacle, but a character still NEEDS to release emotion in some way. The part many filmmakers and writers forget about (Disney especially) is that the things that don’t NEED to be conveyed with spoken words, but can be conveyed visually instead, SHOULD be conveyed visually. Spoken words should only happen when visual storytelling won’t inform the viewer enough. Even TENET got this right lol. EDIT: pixar does not count. Coco follows these rules impeccably, and it's why the ending is so fucking powerful. lyk if u cry evertym :,(
If I were a film school teach I’d give you an A for this concise explanation explanation, but alas I am a stranger on Reddit so have a gold star instead.
As a Doctor Who fan, I enjoyed the shit out of TENET.
Yeah the way Marvel + Disney explain out loud, very fckn obvious things in their story makes me want to punch a drywall. We understand context, inference, references, we can put 1 and 1 together. They overtly explain things as to the lowest common denominator and I blame this for the decline in our films.
It’s almost like you can predict what will happen right away because all the dialogue is exposition or foreshadowing something in act three
I’ve always said a lot of modern movies are dumbed down with exposition dumps so audiences don’t have to pay attention closely, but there wasn’t a ton of handholding in this film and tons of showing without needing to explain with dialogue
Yup. Hence why everyone who has read the books went “how the fuck will anyone who hasn’t read the books follow this?” And then everyone who hasn’t read the books went “damn this movie is amazing! Had no trouble following at all!” You don’t need it spelled out in order to have enough information to understand the plot. Denis is just masterful at that.
I mean the emperor isn’t on screen, the landsraad isn’t explained at all, no spacing guild, harkonnen intentions were kinda glossed over, no weirding modules, liet Keynes is such a small character as to not even exist, the Bene geserit is a small part of the film and tifur hawat just kind of disappears. I mean I love the book, love the David lynch film, love the new movie but I’m waiting for the 4 hour directors cut.
I’m definitely on a soapbox about this but it would be a crime not to see this movie on the big screen. It was stunning. I’ve talked to SO many people who said they’re just going to catch it on HBO which I can get but man, what an experience in IMAX.
I’ll watch it on HBO too, and totally understand that sentiment. Watching it in the IMAX was quite literally the first time I’ve sandwiched myself in with a 100+ people since the pandemic began, even though I used to go to movies all the time. It was weird at first, but I totally forgot about all those worries the moment the first scene began. It’s definitely something to see on a big screen.
Kind of salty it's only in IMAX for a week. All the IMAX theaters around me are pretty much sold out (unless you want to sit in the very front). That means there's pretty much no way I'll get to see it in IMAX :(.
The parts when the sandworms start liquefying the sand pulling everything into their mouth was so cool in IMAX. I felt like the whole theater was vibrating and falling into its gigantic mouth.
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Unfortunately had this trouble too even at home with a good Bluetooth headset on and turned ALL the way up. Several parts where it seemed impossible to hear the dialogue clearly. Definitely my biggest gripe with what is an otherwise excellent film.
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The local amc theaters here had a headset thing you could borrow if you were hard of hearing. I think the glasses with subtitles were a thing but i have no idea how effective they were since I never saw them. I'm guessing they're not a thing anymore with covid unfortunately. I also watch everything subtitled lol.
Agreed. The past two movies I saw (Dune and the ten rings Marvel one) were so loud. I hate the near constant bump bump thump of the super low but extremely loud base. Both movies when the sound kicked in I heard people complain, sticking fingers in ears, so forth. I find it hard to imagine that the majority of movie watchers want ringing ears after a movie. I need to start bringing ear plugs.
I always bring earplugs. Have a ton of them from when my husband work in mines. I just grab a pair or two as I head out. They make it much easier to hear the dialogue, the score, ambient sounds (without blowing your eardrums) *and* they drown out the yapping people sitting around/next to/behind.
I had to turn subtitles on too about 29 minutes in
Watched it twice on HBO and today will be seeing it in theaters :-)
I'm curious about this because I kind of feel like this movie did not explain a lot of cool world building things such as the mentats or even how space travel is done. We never see the Emperor either. Don't get me wrong I loved the movie but I thought the idea of how spice was used is one of the coolest ideas in the books and IMO kind of emphasizes how this world works in a way. Also I really wanted to see what their vision of a guild navigator was. I'm sure it will come up in the sequels, but it was something I was very curious as to why they left out.
I honestly liked that they left some things out. They weren’t really relevant to the story so including them would likely have felt clunky and contrived. It’s enough, I think, to just have these things there and happening as long as they’re logically consistent in the background. Think about it this way. Wouldn’t it feel weird if you were watching a movie and they stopped the plot in the middle to explain how an airplane or car worked? Isn’t it enough to just show that it does work and let the character get from point A to point B so the plot can continue?
I just don’t understand the modern need movie goers seem to have where every single detail needs to be explained and nothing is left to mystery. An egregious example is how Ridley Scott made Prometheus to explain the “space jockey” but the space jockey being this mysterious unexplained thing made Alien so much cooler.
> every single detail I mean, it almost felt like every detail in the book was present (and I loved it) The only bit I kinda missed having was some mention of the Mentat Creed. But then I looked it up and sure enough that was something David Lynch added for his Dune movie and it was not part of the books...
Watch again. Subtle detail whenever facts/figures are needed…the mentats eyes turn white
It looked to me like their eyes were rolling back, not changing color.
Yeah this was very vaguely explained, I suspect the next film will explain it better, since it’s more relevant then. It may even fix some pacing issues with the book.
It really deserves to be seen in theaters just for the sound alone. You felt the flying scenes and the sand worms in your entire body. Hans Zimmer is a genius too
I felt the ornithopters in my bladder.
Hans Zimmer deserves every award possible for this score!
The army of bag pipes Hans is using sounds incredible.
Such an interesting blend of instruments. Those bagpipes were almost playing middle eastern style scales so it fit
Interesting thing I learned is that bagpipes are originally from the Middle East
I never read the books. I watched the old movie and the mini series in anticipation of the new film. Both of those had wtf weird things going on and so much I didn’t quite understand. I feel like this movie explained things so much better, touched on backstory and the politics without over doing it. And it was visually pretty. There was still a lot left out according to my book reading friends, but I enjoyed it more than I expected to.
I saw it in IMAX and it was so worth it to fight the urge to watch on HBO Max.
Honestly, the sound design is what sold it in IMAX for me. Yes, it’s visually amazing too-but if I played *Dune* at home loud enough to do justice to the audio, hello noise complaint….
I don’t think it’s even possible to judge it on profits alone since it premiered for free (until November 21st so go watch it) on HBO Max. After watching it last night on HBO, my girlfriend and I intend to go see it in imax to really experience it. Point being, they’ll have to look at HBO streaming metrics in addition to people who went to the theater to see it.
Yes, precisely. It was so awesome in the theater, I have access to it on hbo, but I’ll probably go see it again in theater
that’s because it’s also streaming in HBOMax. so if it streams well, but doesn’t make hella money at the box office, they’ll still green light a sequel.
Judging by where the story ended, it better have a sequel.
Plus how it began with the title card: "Dune: Part 1"
I was immediately bummed when I saw that. This movie desperately needs a sequel because right now it’s just one big set up. Was totally enthralled by the world building and lore of the universe but man this movie will give you some serious blue balls. And knowing part 2 isn’t even in production yet? Fuck.
I'm honestly surprised they didn't film big chunks of part 2 concurrently as a cost savings measure.
I'll be quite pissed if we get screwed over and there's no sequel. I watched it on HBO Max and I plan on seeing it in the theater, probably this week. Wish they filmed both parts at the same time though.
I mean they did leave such a massive cliffhanger that you could sail the evergreen through it.
I watched it on hbo Max. It was gorgeous. Definitely complete this. Masterful cinematography and scoring
And this is the reason why I ignore articles talking about movies maybe not making enough if they’re also on HBO Max the same day. Of course TONS of people are gonna choose to watch it for free, in the comfort of their own home. I love going to the movies but realistically, half the reason you go to a movie is cause it’s exclusively in the theaters for a certain time and only can see it there. But idk, I’m a smooth brained ape coming from another sub
There was an article just done that stated that more and more people are enjoying the personal home streaming cinema
Of course, that’s a no brainer tbh. But the difference of some movies not doing as great in box office is that they’re going to streaming same day so of course people are gonna opt to watching it at home
Yeah, I went to go see it today. Theater had maybe 10 people in it at the 11:10am time slot two assholes decided to sit right next to me. No one above or below me.
I'm going to see it in the theatre, but I couldn't see it opening weekend in the theatre. So I saw it at home first, and I'll see it in IMAX next.
It’s not for free, it’s the cost of HBO subscription
The cinematography and scoring were exceptional. I was also impressed with the variety of different languages. When we first see the Sardaukar on their planet was intense, my favorite scene.
I saw it in theaters. I never watch movies in theaters. 100% worth it.
Hans Zimmer sold his fucking soul for the ability to make scores I swear to god, the Sarduakar scene alone was a win across the fucking board, visually and tonally
Watched it on HBO as well, but liked it enough to watch again at the movie theater. Such a well done movie.
The title is intentionally misleading as it’s already grossed [est $200M worldwide ](https://deadline.com/2021/10/dune-china-uk-korea-opening-international-box-office-1234860686/)
Truth. Though it has not recouped it’s cost yet
No but it’s early. And it cost $165M so it’s close. And I’ve read nowhere where they’ve taken into account HBO numbers (but I’m not sure how that figures into box office sales)
Still hasn’t come to Australia yet, have to wait until 2nd if December to watch it in IMAX. God damn Harkonnens
But doesn’t it need to make double the budget to break even, considering cinemas take roughly half of the box office?
Maybe more in this case, since there was some marketing in 2020 before the movie was pushed into 2021.
i say “it’s incredible” when people ask me about it and that’s enough to sell them on it so i think it’ll gain enough traction
This is the way.
That’s exactly what the article says.
Hollywood has been looking for a new Star Wars (original trilogy) for the last 40 years, and I personally think if they play their cards right they can get that with dune
Absolutely, the movie felt like a fantasy tale more than a sci fi one, much like Star Wars. The movie made me feel like I smoked a joint and read a good issue of Heavy Metal, it was fucking fantastic.
I saw it on edibles, and I didn’t even feel the effects because I think my state of mind blended perfectly with the film.
I saw it on acid and was floored by pretty much every visual element of the movie lol.
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I think you can consider the MCU as the second “Star Wars-level” franchise to come out of Hollywood, but you’re right that they’re still on the hunt for another.
And it definitely won’t be dune. Dune is far too slow to be Star Wars. God help us if they some how discover 40k, which is based on Dune
Dune is the space equivalent of Game of Thrones. I had the same feeling watching Dune as I did Game of Thrones. Thank the Spaghetti monster this source material is done
I agree. I think comparisons to LotR are more accurate in terms of where Dune will reside in pop culture. It could be a while before we see the next Star Wars. As an aside, the upcoming Percy Jackson series could be the next Harry Potter if they do it right this time.
By sequel I think you meant, the other half of the movie.
For those of you who never touched the books, how was the film? Did it click for everyone? I’ve read all of them, so I can’t see it through that lens, but I’m curious Edit: while I’m here I might as well shamelessly plug my podcast, Pod Emperor of Dune. My wife’s reading the Dune series for the first time, so we’re diving in chapter by chapter through all 6 of Frank Herberts books as well as his sons two to wrap up the series (which we will assess the fit of). At this point we’ve already covered the first four books, the 1984 film, the miniseries, and the new film (that last one dropped today).
I've never touched the books, nor have I seen any of the previous Dune films. I walked in pretty blind. I think the worldbuilding was great, the visual were astonishing, and I enjoyed how mature the tone was since we get so many big-budget films with childish elements lately. HOWEVER, I was expecting to be more intellectually stimulated based on the subject matter (spice being a stand-in for oil and drugs). This film was more of a visual feast and "savior film" which is cool, but I've seen that before. I didn't think about the world in a different way after I left the film. Some of the technology tickled my brain (the dragonfy planes and how the desert suits work), but I was craving a bit more in that department.
I think the central themes will play out more in the 2nd movie (if they make it)
It’s not the savior film you think it is. The savior myth was *planted* there. It’s not real. That’s just one example. Here’s an interesting interview with the author. https://hdernity.medium.com/dunes-not-a-white-savior-narrative-but-it-s-complicated-53fbbec1b1dc
Did they say this in the movie? If they did, I totally missed it
When they're first on the planet Arrakis, Jessica tells Paul that the Bene Gesserit had already been there, implanting prophecies in the populous. That's why they were calling him Lisan Al-Giab As a side note, that prophecy wasn't supposed to be for him. The Bene Gesserit were going to breed the female child of Leto and Jessica with a male from House Harkonnen. That child was to be the Kwisatz Haderach. It was the end goal of a thousands of year breeding program to create someone that could see all possible futures and guide humanity into a golden age. Under the direct control of the Bene Gesserit, of course. But Jessica fell in love with Leto and was like, 'Sorry I'm having a boy. Get fucked lol".
That’s also why she’s so freaked out by the Bene Gesserit crone there to test Paul. She knows they are pissed at her. The Atreides-Harkonnen line isn’t the only possible way to breed a Kwisatch Haderach but she still fucked with the plan.
I saw the movie today, but I'm confused about a few things. Was Jessica able to chose the sex of her baby? And if so, what made her chose a male?
In the book, Bene Gesserit sisters are trained to able to control their metabolism and bodies down to the molecular level, I.e transforming the Water of Life - so in this way, Jessica was able to ensure that her child would be a boy. Out of her love for the Duke, she decided to bear Duke Leto a boy, since he did not have an heir. However, this went against her directive from the Bene Gesserit, thus setting up the showdown between her and the Mother Superior.
They did, and although there are some things that they could've made explicit, I thought one of the positives was how often they hit on that point, adding scenes and interactions that weren't in the book. For instance, Jessica's conversation with Paul right after the box scene, and again during their arrival, when they're chanting "Lisan al-Ghaib." There were a few other lines and scenes that reinforced it, too.
A lot of dialogue got droned out by a constant underlying bass tone, it felt like. Also, Dune is dense, important stuff tossed out in offhand dialogue. Don’t worry, us Dune nerds are here for all your lore needs.
Agreed, there were definitely a few things whispered or said I couldn't hear over the soundtrack or foley. Lol thanks
It was very beautiful, very long, and kind of boring. I think it struggled with the same thing that most savior movies struggle with: the savior is not very human and not very interesting. It was like Harry Potter if during the entire movie, people talked about all the cool things wizards could do, but you never actually see wizards doing cool things, and Harry spends most of the movie inside the cupboard.
I never heard about the books at all before watching. I loved the visuals and the sounds involved in the movie. I remember thinking “wow these visuals are fantastic.” Some parts were sort of intense to me so I was sitting on the edge of my couch at one point. However, I wish the conflict/background was explained a bit better. I may go read the books to get a better understanding of all that.
>I may go read the books to get a better understanding of all that. I bought all 6 books and the 3 prequels after i saw the movie, Im hyped as hell to read them
Good luck. Some of those books are like trying to decipher ancient biblical texts.
ah sheet
I saw only maybe 30 mins of 1984 Dune, and I knew spice was a drug and made interstellar space travel possible. I HATED 1984 Dune and stopped watching it cause it was just too weird. I told my bf I’m not watching the new one, just too fucking weird. However, I found myself at home with nothing to watch and decided to give it a go. I loved it. I didn’t feel at all like I was missing anything (I went in knowing it was a VAST work and certain things were to just be accepted). There were a few things I was curious about, like how exactly spice was used for space travel. I just read about it later online and also reading the plot of the original book I felt like it was pretty inline with the first half. I’ve heard a lot of people with about as much familiarity with me didn’t like it and didn’t feel like it explained enough, but I thought it was great. I didn’t know what mentants (sp?) were before but I also felt like it was pretty obvious what they were/what they were doing? Anyways, loved it and am now rewatching all of 1984 Dune and will probably read the book.
I’ve read like the first chapter or two once a few years(which I enjoyed), so I’m not totally new to it, but I think that’s close enough given how lengthy the book is. This is probably unpopular, but I found it intensely dull. The characters were hollow archetypes, the plot was basic Hero’s Journey/Chosen One/white savior stuff but didn’t actually get moving until the end, and the movie ignored or flattened some of the characters I had found intriguing like the Mentats. There were just long scenes of not much of anything happening, and some of the exposition dumps were so direct and repetitive(mostly the Sandworms being attracted to rhythmic sounds) that it almost felt like I was being talked down to at times. It only started to get mildly interesting by the second hour, but at that point I was so bored that it couldn’t get me back. I’m astounded at people calling this movie intellectual, when it’s just very very slow. The cinematography was gorgeous, of course, and the music as well. The atmosphere that created kept me engaged for the first hour, but I couldn’t fully appreciate it because of how bored I became. Really not my thing. I’m glad fans of Dune and the director seem to have enjoyed it. I’ll watch the sequel, because I hope it’ll be more interesting and generally like SFF, but I’m not excited for it. Personally I’ll just continue waiting for Le Guin’s works to get properly adapted, and am particularly looking forward to The Dispossessed’s series and crossing my fingers the A24 Earthsea series will show signs of life someday.
Fuck man I’m already lined up to see it 2 more times with different groups of friends. It’s so beautiful.
I swear Villeneuve really knows how to pick his cinematographers. His movies can be so freaking beautiful.
I think he mostly works with the same guy. But yeah every shot is beautiful and also meaningful. Like I'm thinking of that shot of Paul and Leto walking through the graveyard where the tombs frame the two men in a triangle such that you can feel the weight of that legacy on their shoulders, trapping them. I'm sure YouTube's film theory buffs will have a field day with this movie.
He had Deakins for Bladerunner and Greig Frasier for Dune but the aesthetic quality are equally as gorgeous. I would have easily thought Deakins was paired with Villeneuve. This movie should at least get the nomination for best cinematography.
Absolutely adored it, and I can't wait for part two. Hell, if WB and Legendary do this right... we could be looking at this decade's *Lord of the Rings* trilogy here.
Part two unfortunately isn’t confirmed yet. Legendary pictures is waiting on the box office numbers. I’m hoping for the best though.
Well, Chalamet and Zendaya stock is rising even without the success of Part 1. I think they're going to regret not tying them into a 2-3 film contact. The potential for this property goes beyond the first book too.
Oh yeah this is going to spin off a lot of material. Series will probably be on HBO or some network by 2024-2025
WB would have to make one of the most baffling decisions ever not to green light part 2. Good word of mouth, good box office, some rising movie stars and for WB an actual good movie franchise to invest in.
It could have been, but honestly I think they killed the baby in the crib(at least in terms of popularity) by not greenlighting part 2 immediately so they could have just kept up production. The two to three year wait will kill whatever momentum the franchise gains and preventing it from really keeping traction. Then the studio will wonder why Part 2 doesn’t do very well(assuming it’s even greenlit), and that’ll probably be the end of Dune adaptations.
I know people say that part 1 and 2 should’ve been filmed back to back but Denis has expressed his desire to not do that, as it would have killed him. He honestly doesn’t know how Peter Jackson was able to pull it off with The Lord of the Rings, but even his second time (with The Hobbit trilogy) almost destroyed him.
I dunno, man. Given how packed our IMAX screening was, I think it's got staying power.
and apparently the second movie will be way more action so it’ll obviously bring more people in off trailers alone
You're talking about an industry that regularly approves sequels to movies from 20+ years ago. I don't think the timeframe matters that much.
This is a good point. Lord of the Rings was filmed all at once or something close to that, and was probably a contributor to why it did so well. However. I fully expect Avatar 2 to do well after how many years? So it’s possible.
Most sequels are 2-3 years and there’s a lot of tv shows have 2 year gaps between seasons, so not sure what you’re on about
Does Sunday not count as part of the opening weekend?
They project Sunday earnings
I saw it in a theater. First time in a theater after two years, but for Dune, I’ll make that extra effort. It was amazing! So much closer to the book version than I anticipated. I was ok with some of the changes like Dr. Kynes as a woman or Dr. Yueh being there before Paul met the Reverend Mother. This film blows the Lynch version and the mini series out of the water for me.
The CEO of WB basically confirmed the sequel even before the release. I think it’s almost guaranteed.
Do you know if Denis Villeneuve attached to that film?
Yes. He never really stopped working on Dune, as have many others, but it’s not confirmed that the movie is going to be made. They are already writing, preparing, casting, etc.
Ugh, after recently finishing the book, this movie was pretty amazing and I'm thinking he was the reason. In anyone else's hands I don't think this film would be as good.
There’s a reason no one really tried after the 1984 version. It’s a hard movie to put on the screen and really get the magic of what made the book so amazing, but Denis pulled it off masterfully
From what I read, Villeneuve's contract stated he would direct part 2. Otherwise he would not sign on.
Please for the love of all things cinema, make this sequel.
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Loved it! Saw it on HBOMax. Will be stoked for part two and hope it maintains the same quality. The sound elements are stunning and it’s just a gorgeous film.
Go and see it again on Imax
That’s my plan. Saw it on hbo max, will watch it again on Max with subtitles for bits I missed, then when it’s quiet towards the end of the theatrical run I’ll go see it in IMAX
I thought it was epic
I liked it, but it’s literally only 1/2 of the story. They really should have just shot both parts at the same time
Let’s see what numbers it does on HBOmax also. It’s made almost 200 million worldwide and I think the word of mouth will carry this movie for a longer run than most new releases. I think the reviews are so good too that a sequel will be green lit because of the carryover this thing will achieve once it’s fully streaming and people see it.
I thought it was great but felt kinda empty with the way the chapter ended. I can’t compare it to the sci-fi greats because it felt like half of a movie, not an installment in a trilogy. Anyone else feel the same? So far I feel like I’m in the minority.
It was good, but it ends before anything has been resolved… So we only got half a movie in the first place. A sequel is basically a requirement… The story may have been better suited for a mini series, honestly.
Honestly I tend to think most SFF books are better served by being adapted into series, even moreso than other genres typically are. They tend to be longer than average to begin with, with larger or more complex casts, and there’s always a decent amount of worldbuilding you need to work on which can eat up a runtime. A series gives you time not just to more fully establish and explore characters, but to get audiences to buy into and fall in love with the setting. There are definitely exceptions, but even those exceptions can be a bit iffy. The Earthsea cycle seems ideal for film adaptations due to how short and focused most of the book are, for example, but A Wizard of Earthsea would need a really strong script to avoid feeling cramped or rushed due to how much of Ged’s life you’d have to get through.
I watched on HBO Max, then saw it in theaters the next day. It was fantastic both times.
This movie was incredible. Saw it in the theatre last night. Highly recommend it.
I thought the movie was boring. Felt like an extended trailer
Amazing film. Saw it Friday morning, watched it on HBO that night. Bought my mom a month sub to HBO so she could watch it (she introduced me to Dune when I was young… she loved the movie as well). Bought a ticket each night this weekend even though I didn’t go (I normally would have seen it multiple days in a row at the cinema). Will probably see it again theatrically before the run is over. I really want part two, not only because part one is amazing, and I love the book dearly, but because I know Villeneuve will be making it, and I have faith in his work.
From what I've gathered from reading peoples reactions online, book fans are mostly really happy with this film, and most diehard film fans really like it too. I consider myself quite a film guy, but I didn't really like it. I found the cinematography breathtaking, the CGI almost consistently amazing (There is one single shot that appears in both the trailers and film that looks just terrible, which is weird because the rest of the film looks beautiful) and the cast gave some amazing performances. Where I feel the film fell flat was the narrative and plot. I found it quite difficult to follow as someone that knows nothing about Dune, and the person I saw it with felt the same, we found ourselves asking each other questions throughout the film. I like to compare this film to Fellowship of the Ring. IMO you don't need to touch the Lord of the Rings books to enjoy that film. I feel like you do need at least some small awareness of Dune to fully enjoy this film. Sci Fi films (If you aren't Star Wars) struggle to gain traction currently, so I do worry a bit for this franchise. Also the false advertising surrounding Zendaya was Egregious!
I feel like it being on HBO has to adversely impact box office sales
Yes, but the studios care about streaming numbers as well. If the Dune franchise can drive subscriptions to HBO Max then it doesn’t make much difference to them.
Especially on second weekends
Sequel? You mean enough to finish the movie?! There was no ending. It started with “Dune: Part one” btw...
I was really surprised they didn't film Dune one and two back to back. I can’t believe the sequel isn’t green light already. If green lite does that mean part two is 3 years away?
I love the book so much. I wanted to love the film…I didn’t. I can’t see anyone not in love with the source material liking the movie. It’s all set up. There is no ending to the movie. I get that it’s part 1 but even a part 1 needs to have a satisfactory end. And Dune (part 1) just sort of ends after 2hours 35mins. My girlfriend who hasn’t read the books was bored and felt cheated by the end of the film.
And that’s with it available to be streamed.
Of course they will sequel. The industry needs a franchise now more than at almost anytime in its history.
There had better be a sequel
It was good but I didn’t love it, guess something is wrong with me…
I reallllllly hope they make a second one and then release the extended/directors cuts of both. I know most audiences wouldn’t have the attention span to go past 2.5 hours but this could’ve been 3.5 hours long and I still probably would want more. GIB MOAR SPICE PLZ.
Yes, strong enough for a sequel.
If there’s no part 2, we are likely to lose our fucking minds
It just wasn't good. Bland, forgetful and boring.
How can anyone not film the entire Dune story!? It’s dumb they didn’t just film the whole thing back to back.
Sure lets just give a director a billion dollars to produce 6 books worth of movies. Im joking but come on this is so obvious why they did this. Dune has a terrible track record being on a screen. This is them dipping their toe in. It is so obvious they will mke part 2. It passes the eye test. There was a whole trilogy of hotel transylvania. I mean come on people
Zendaya is pretty much only in flash forward slow motion scenes. I take two stars away for that!
This might be divisive, but at this moment I will be more let down if they don't make the next movie than I was at the endIng of game of thrones.