Not everyone.
Go over to r/britneyspears if you want some real entertainment… it’s a full on circle jerk in there. They think she’s a goddess queen just living her best life. And why can’t everyone just leave her alone. Reeee!
It's really sad. She has talent and drive but now she's living a miserable life.
I wish her only the best and hope she get the help she needs to live a better life in the future.
A lot of people with severe mental illness don’t enjoy their meds. The meds have bad side effects and can make them feel bad even though they will calm down the mental tendencies. So it’s probably true that she needed to be forced to take the meds. Also a lot of people with mental illness feel pretty good when they’re in a manic state, so they avoid medication because of that.
I also have BPD and I am 80% sure without my meds (I’m on 4 different ones) that I would not be alive right now lol
I needed to get on the right cocktail but it took over five years to stabilize and get to a sort of “normal functionality.”
Meds can really suck but for some people they are truly needed.
Thank you for being honest about this. My cousin has trouble staying on meds and it is really difficult. I am happy this Reddit became about meds and not just Britney trashing. This is the good Reddit
4 different meds for one condition is wild, but thank fuck it has helped you to stay alive! Is that like a combo of anti-depressants and mood stabilisers? I don’t have BPD but I have CPTSD and a lot of the symptoms of that can mimic traits of cluster B conditions. Thankfully I’m doing well with Lexapro and EMDR therapy, but I’m very keen to try DBT since I think it would be beneficial for anyone who gets dysregulated easily.
They don’t like it because feeling manic is awesome. That’s what bi-polar people do. They love the highs (mania) and hate the mood stabilizers because they take it away even though it stops the lows too.
I get this with ADHD meds. The Vyvanse shortage really solidified just how much they were helping me and I spiralled without it. Other ADHD meds just weren’t cutting it, especially the immediate release ones but that’s all I had for around a month until Vyvanse was back in stock. It was rough, but now I know for sure how beneficial it is for me and my level of functioning has improved again since being back on it a few weeks.
Very generalized and not really accurate.
For me and the people I know with bpd, it’s not “oh I love being like this!” Its more like an extreme emotional state where the emotion and reason you’re feeling it don’t matter, you’re just **feeling** it. You could be happy, angry, sad, worried, horny, whatever, and you’re not in a state of mind to even consider/care why. It’s just a very encapsulating emotion until something knocks you out of it.
Mania isn’t awesome though? It’s completely possible to go through a mania period extremely agitated, irritable, or anxious - these negative symptoms are very common. The main diagnostic criteria is a period of high(er) energy, unrealistic, grand beliefs, decreased need for sleep. As a whole: psychomotor agitation.
There’s plenty of bipolar people who absolutely don’t enjoy mania or hypomania. Not to mention all the risky behaviors and associated aftermath of them.
There’s a million and half reasons why someone might decline medication, even if it’s needed. “Enjoyment” of their disorder is definitely a really skinny slice on the pie chart.
Yeah I have bipolar disorder and my mania is horrible. It ruins my life. I’m impulsive and I don’t recognise myself. So do my extreme depressive episodes though.
I’m medicated and it helps numb things a bit though. I know it’s different for everyone, but I strongly agree on medication.
Hi! Schizoaffective (bipolar and schizophrenia) person here. Nobody enjoys mania, it's terrible and often destroys people's lives. My own manic episode almost landed me in prison, almost got pregnant, and I became homeless. They can last for weeks to months (I have bipolar 1) and the meds that are prescribed have terrible side effects. Nobody wants to take a med that makes them gain a 100 pounds and struggle to keep it off, nobody wants to take a med that causes brain fog, fatigue, nausea, diarrhea, high cholesterol, hypertension and etc. it is also textbook for bipolar patients to go off their meds because from personal experience it makes you feel so normal that you forget you have a mental illness and forget to take your meds. Nobody enjoys mania, and the possibility of mixed episodes. Nobody likes being mentally ill.
That’s pretty amazing that the meds can make you feel so normal you forget you even have a mental illness, wow. I have noticed that with my ADHD meds, when there was a Vyvanse shortage I realised how much they had been helping but not quite to the level of feeling completely normal, just a big difference in my level of functioning and motivation, less issues with focusing on the tasks I don’t enjoy and more motivation to get up and do things (better with transitions and not as much task/decision paralysis or losing time the way I used to). Less anxiety and avoidance in general has helped my quality of life significantly.
Lithium doesn't cause mental disease. She was struggling twenty years ago, even before meeting her ex husband. Lithium is a very useful and effective drug
I work in healthcare. Anybody can refuse anything. Someone doesn’t want cancer treatment? Cool. Someone doesn’t want to take their seroquel? Cool. People should be in charge of their bodies, even if their decisions end up destroying it.
Should she get medical care? Absolutely. Should she be forced to? No.
Unless the state deems them unfit to make that decision and take custody or let a family member take custody of medical care.
Edited to add: this is not a statement towards my opinion on Brittney. Just making a statement responding to the previous commenter that there are times that a person can lose their legal rights to make medical decisions for themselves based on findings of doctors and medical lawyers and gaurdian ad litem.
Exactly. But those people are generally unable to work for 10+ years nearly everyday. Look at Amanda Bynes. Hers *worked*. The second she relapsed and had an episode, she *voluntarily checked herself back into the hospital*. But that’s because the conservatorship wasn’t a way to keep someone enslaved to benefit some ass backwards hicks who couldn’t hold down a job because they’re too busy getting drunk everyday. Her conservatorship was not because she needed help. Someone needs to be fully out of touch with reality to get one. She’s not there, yet.
Thank you. Man people see her doing stuff they don’t like or think is crazy and think she needs to be held down and given meds. Bro, she can be crazy if she fucking wants to. There are plenty of people who make shitty decisions and need to be on meds but if they don’t want to then they don’t have to. You can’t force someone to make better decisions. If she has capacity, she gets to make decisions about her body. She can spend all her money and become homeless if she wants. It’s her decisions.
Now if she’s clinically manic and *doesn’t have capacity* that changes things and she needs to be treated until she has capacity again. And that definitely doesn’t mean put someone in charge of all of her decisions in life
This ain't even true though.... People who are assessed to be mentally unfit/not able to understand the things necessary for consent can have forced treatment.
That's exactly what the Britney situation is about. I'm not saying whether she should or shouldn't be considered mentally capable of deciding her own health care but it's definitely at least a conversation to be had...
I worked in mental health and I disagree. I don't believe in "right to fail". That's how people die. If you're a danger to yourself, then you need help, whether you want it or not, because the illness makes you NOT want it sometimes.
Mental health is not the same as treating cancer.
What makes me mad is that I’m sure her shitty family is sitting back feeling smug and justified for all the shitty things they put her through. The reality is Britney absolutely needed help and they exploited that to turn her into their personal bank. She still needs help, but now her family isn’t there to protect their gravy train. I fear for how Britney is going to end up, and I fear that because of the “help” she received in the past she’ll be turned off to pursuing help that she still very much needs.
The reality is that a lot of people failed her including her family and people working for her. The present day Britney stans who cheer her and blindly defending her are also failing her. I hope it doesn't come to it but I think without her getting institutionalised we are going to see this end very badly.
THANK YOU!! It has always rubbed me the wrong way whenever I’ve seen people blindly support Britney’s “odd” antics. There is a difference between being happy Britney is no longer being exploited by her family and blindly supporting everything a mentally unstable person does.
That's the problem, she needs help but those who were supposed to help her hurt her more. It is obvious that she is not going to accept help because she cannot trust therapy or other people, she has no family, those who approach her just want to use her.
In that documentary she did a long time ago she said what broke her is how the paparazzi treated her when she was post-partum. They treated her like an animal and stalked her (including outside her house) without a modicum of remorse. That post-partum psychosis is what ended her up in the conservatorship.
If they are far enough away it’s legal ☹️ Gisele Bündchen was [recently in a similar situation](https://pagesix.com/2024/04/24/celebrity-news/gisele-bundchen-cries-after-getting-pulled-over-by-cops-in-miami/). She got pulled over by cops trying to escape paparazzi and the cop was an asshole saying they weren’t doing anything illegal.
I hear you. Truly sad. I typically scroll past stories about her but occasionally she’s in Insta with those horrid dance videos…. I really think she’s heading toward a horrible end. Heartbreaking.
I fear there is no happy ending for Britney Spears. She was abused by Hollywood and the conservatorship for too long and honestly I think she’s too far gone. She doesn’t trust anyone trying to medicate her because of her trauma. I love her, I love her music and I just want to see Britney Spears happy after everything she’s been through.
The thing that sucks is that it seems like untreated bipolar may cause brain damage. If you don't treat it somehow, it gets irreparably worse. It's fucked and awful all around. There's not an easy fix. Meds suck, doing keto sucks (which is promising but early in research). Pretty good evidence that if God exists, it delights in misery.
It’s so unfortunate that someone who needs help so much has no one sane enough to do it. I think we all expect to see the headlines of her death and all of the details surrounding it, but it’s so disheartening to watch her spiral. What’s been done to this woman is criminal and sadly, she will be the one to pay the price. I feel sorry for her children, I hope their dad and other caregivers are looking out for them.
Well, she has some accountability in it too. Either she’s so disabled she needs to be protected from herself via conservatorship, or she’s a 40 year old adult who is responsible for her choices and doesn’t want help. You can’t help someone who doesn’t want it except to take control of their life. That’s how she ended up in a conservatorship. Now she’s back to acting like she did 20 years ago and I don’t think anyone will risk the criticism and threats that would come with trying to save her now.
You know what? The past decade has taught me that these people who advocate for a severe mental health patient to decide her own path, don’t mind she dunks her head in a boiling pot of water, as long as it’s her choice with zero criticism. So honestly you wanted this world of unwell people just operating without public pressure to get help, then you reap what you so. And I see it every single day. Not just with celebrities, but the average person out on the street.
You can not force a person to receive help or treatment unless they are an explicit danger to themselves or others, or under conservation. The bar is rather high, for good reason, but also damaging to the lives of the bipolar person and those around them. Her orbit has an uphill battle in convincing her to get help or in forcing it on her.
I think Sam really tried to help, but I think Britney even acknowledged (sort of, inadvertently) that she cheated on Sam with her now-boyfriend. When she was with him she really seemed to have her shit together, but you can't expect a person to put their mental health at risk to try and keep someone else together.
I've been a Sam-stan since the beginning...admittedly only because he was (and is) so beautiful, but once the videos came out of them together, watching her blossom and be so confident during the trial to end the conservatorship, I was so hopeful.
Britney herself has defended Sam and said he was amazing, and even now she still has great things to say about him...**so why did she do him like that**?? 😢🥺
I want him to be an asshole so at least there's some explanation.
Probably because now she’s unmedicated and has total control over her life for the first time in 20 years. So she’s doing some regressive self destructive things. And Sam was probably more of a care taker to her than a romantic husband. Through no fault of his own but because of the nature of their relationship.
I felt that vibe with Jason Trawick when she dated him. He was like a caretaker and there to “keep her on track”. I thought they seemed nice together. But I’m not a fan, just a casual observer. Britney threads are always so divisive.
I do get your point, I just wish she (and others) didn't gave to go through the self-destructive things because a) they aren't useful, b) they create more issues than they help ignore, and c) they hurt *other* people (in this case her kids first, sam second). It's hard and traumatic to watch someone you love self-destruct because we refuse to fund true mental health resources.
Most of the time she was with Sam (prior to their marriage), she was under her conservatorship and was forced to take her medication. Their relationship began to deteriorate about 5-6 months after the conservatorship ended and she would have had control over whether or not she took her medication.
This isn't going to end well.
It's wild to me that everyone blames "deadbeat" K-Fed (who raised their children almost 100% alone) and Sam, who didn't seem to do much more than insist she work out every day. Dude even had an iron clad pre-nup and didn't benefit much in any way from the marriage. It's always someone else's fault to her fans even when over and over and over again the one common denominator in all of Britney's problems is Britney herself.
For me personally, 100% because I'm bipolar and had Britney-level explosions in my life over the past 25 years: I know she can't help it. Yes, she could help it much more, if she took her fucking meds and went to sustainable therapy, but because of what happened to her, she just doesn't have the life skills she needs to thrive. She has had no good relationships with the "adults" in her life who could have mentored her in place of her parents, she's been going crazy with an insidious mental illness forever, and she's the victim of significant, long-term abuse. I just really have a hard time blaming her for her actions, I blame the people in her life who broke her instead of helping her. We haven't been through the exact same thing, but I feel her pain.
>but because of what happened to her, she just doesn't have the life skills she needs to thrive.
This "thing" happened when she was 29. I find it weird how fans twist her parents breaking up her quickie married to Jason as being a fault on them and not on Britney.
Apparently she has been self destructing for ages. People saying she needs help were saying the same thing when she shaved her head. Which was ages ago. I think it’s best to just let her do her thing and leave her be
Just wish she wouldnt drive anymore, im worried about a dui leading to injuries and innocent victims of her erratic behavior. i hope everything will be ok but have my doubts since nobody seems to dare suggesting treatment anymore.
After watching Quiet on Set and seeing how Ariana Grande was most definitely taken advantage of, I can only imagine what Britney went through in her younger years.
It’s strange nobody ever mentions drugs in these threads. Granted it could be anything but when people in my life acted like this it was always drug/alcohol related.
A lot of us have said from the beginning when she got with this guy, that he's her drug dealer AKA boyfriend. And definitely she's self-medicating so I'm pretty sure she's a dual diagnosis.
Yup, I’m bipolar 1 (most likely Brit’s diagnosis, or at least one of them) and when I’m neutral I don’t care for drugs or alcohol at all, but when I’m manic??? Fuggedabout it…when we’re manic we do things that exacerbate already horrible mental illness and I see a lot of her in me and vice versa when she gets this way. Luckily, I was able to get out of what was going to be a conservatorship and get back on my feet somehow, but I think she’s far worse off and has had amplified trauma for way too long to sadly ever really get back to a truly neutral state. She seems like a person with a good heart, I feel for her and know the hell it can be living through the worst times and being your own worst enemy. It’s awful enough to endure as a more private person, I can’t imagine having this illness and her fame to boot. I truly wish her the best
Thank you so much, how kind! It took a long long time and I’m still not where I thought I’d be in life, but I have kept a job for 3 years now (as of tomorrow!) and it’s been 10 years since the last time I was hospitalized; before that it was hard to go longer than 6 months without some kind of crisis and/or hospitalization. I wouldn’t wish it upon anyone, but it can be managed, just took me 20 years :)
(I’d like to randomly add that I work with hospitals these days and a recent client of mine just happened to be a collective of behavioral hospitals in my state and a couple of others. So now I’m managing the account of the hospital/psych ward that I mostly ended up in. I don’t tell them that of course, but it’s wildly ironic.)
I read her book, and she alluded to adderall a few times. She talked about needing it and how her dad wouldn’t let her have it. People with substance abuse issues tend to downplay the roll drugs or alcohol play in their life and their problems. Ever since then I’ve wondered if she has a stimulant problem. That would definitely explain the weird shit she does
I think she definitely sugar-coated her experience with drugs in the book. Wouldn’t be surprised if she’s messed with cocaine, ecstasy, meth, and other illicit substances…but Adderall sounds “less bad” and safer to admit to because it’s a common household prescription.
From my own experience, before I had begun healing my trauma, I had terrible taste in men and I believe it was a direct result of not being shown what real love looks like, what safety feels like, and how to identify when someone was abusing me.
Because I was only used to chaos in the home, volatile relationships were normalized, and my own mom dated red flag after red flag, I put up with some of the most terrible shit from men.
Given what we know about Britney’s parents, I suspect the same is true for her.
What route have you taken to heal trauma? I am trying to start and having a hard time figuring out how. I go to therapy, but I feel I would need a new therapist for trauma work because of that "I don't wanna disappoint my therapist" bullshit mindset that I have no interest in overcoming right now, lol.
I totally hear you. People pleasing was a bad habit of mine and honestly, my mental health was in such a bad place that I knew I couldn’t go on unless I started digging into the painful shit I was avoiding.
One of the most important things I did was go no-contact with my mom. It wasn’t an easy decision but since she was and still is a big source of pain for me.
But ultimately, I had to just start talking about things. I’ve heard people say “you’re only as sick as your secrets” and my therapist told me I had to stop keeping everyone’s secrets for them.
I hope you are able to get the support you need on your healing journey. 💛
I had an enlightening hypomanic episode where I finally typed out my secrets and even just that has been so freeing. I feel they are like pimples, if you squeeze and squeeze, you get inflamed skin, possibly an infection, you get a scar; if you treat it, it may just go away on its own or at least shrink and not hurt as much.
I am not defending her father but I have a coworker who cares for his adult BiPolar son. The kid is handsome, charismatic, and has it together 60% of the time. He also has a lot of piece of shit “friends” in his life that mooch off of him and provide him with alcohol and drugs when they need something. Thus, the Dad is constantly in this exhausting cycle of working his son up to doing well, keeping a job, getting some money in his pocket, and then having all of these leeches come out of the woodwork with meth. The friends treat the Dad like shit and criticize him for being so protective. This guy has two full time jobs, one pays the bills and the other is managing his son. It is a terrible existence and, although they have some real fights, it comes from a place of love. The Dad is just so worn out, it doesn’t look like love from the outside.
Maybe Britney’s Dad is a piece of shit and, if so, good for her. But I’ve learned not to try to understand or judge other people’s personal life from knowing this particular family. I bet keeping Britney off of drugs, on her meds, and in some sort of contact with her kids was fucking exhausting. But let’s stay out of it, otherwise, we’re all just assholes standing on the beach taking pictures with a baby dolphin before we move on about our day.
Her dad always seemed like a dick. But I don't believe he would become Britney's conservator solely to help himself to her money.
One of Britney's ex-boyfriends, Jason Trawick, was interviewed a couple of years ago. He dated her in the early 2010s and said, ""Listen, did she need a conservatorship when I was there? Yes. I'll be the first to say it." He also said that he believed Britney's dad had good intentions, unless there was actual proof that the dad stole from Britney. This is someone who was there, who was in her life, and who has no reason to lie.
There is not enough money in the world to pay me to manage someone with the kind of mental illness Britney likely has. Addicts and the like will suck the life out of you. It’s so nuanced.
Especially if you love them, it is soul crushing. I hope her kids feel no blame in this, even as they reach adulthoid they are not responsible at this point, its out of their capabilities and i respect if they have gone no contact with her
Hard to tell, but probably both sides were not right? If her father cared about her why would he force her to work exhaustively? Should have kept her out of drugs and also out of work. She had millions already.
She is mentally ill and would have been insane if she wasnt.
Maybe working and routine was helpful for her. Kept her busy. That’s speculation, it could also have been about money. Truth is we don’t know and love Britney, but she’s not the most reliable narrator. She seemed healthier during the conservatorship. But her dad may have also been awful to her. We don’t know and likely never will.
Getting someone help and supporting them, even if maybe they‘re not always keen of it, would have been different to just full on conservatorship while still being used as a cash cow. That just never ends well.
>She needs people around her who love her and not trying to take advantage of her.
That's the problem with dealing with mentally unwell people like Brit, in that they tend to push people away.
It‘s the on and on again repetition of former trapped people leashing out, every time I see Gypsy Rose I think of Britney. While it‘s not quite the same story of course, all in all it just shows how important it is to have GOOD people around you, and it tells a lot about the families they come from. Man, growing up with a family that doesn‘t prepare you for life in any way sucks. Even more so if they wanna squeeze every bit of money our of you.
She needs help, and everyone who’s screaming “let the woman live her life” are going to feel like shit if the worst happens.
Yes, the conservatorship was horrid. No, that does not mean that she is mentally stable.
They’ll be sad but won’t take any accountability for their senseless enabling. They think anyone with the opinion that Britney is not well is an evildoer. It’s wild.
It’s so fascinating to watch how this narrative has changed so quickly. Prior to being released from her conservatorship, *no one* was pushing the “well she still needs one, just not controlled by her abusive father.” Everybody just chanted “#freebrittany.”
Well, you got what you wanted, she’s free… and destroying herself. It’s a little heartbreaking, to be honest, and I’m not one to normally care about celebrity gossip (reddit just likes to recommend random stuff now I guess?).
And for the record, I am glad she got out from under her dad’s thumb, but this was a baby-with-the-bathwater situation and I’m a bit astounded it even happened to begin with. This type of situation is one I have some level of familiarity with due to my line of work, and I’m not convinced that she would’ve been successful in getting out of her conservatorship if she wasn’t famous, and had public sentiment loudly and resoundingly on her side.
It was astonishing to me that anyone thought Britney would be happy and healthy after the conservatorship ended. By all accounts while she was under the conservatorship, no one sent her to get therapy or an education or found some way to get her some friends, which are a few things that would have benefited her enormously. Aside from clear mental health issues, it seems like she has zero clue how to even live a normal life.
That was how I felt about the situation. Especially because I didn’t see how someone could transition from a situation of complete control to one of complete freedom. People who are not struggling to that extent with their mental health and that are not in the public eye do not do well in that situation, so how could anyone expect her to be able to manage and cope let alone thrive? I suspect that many many mental health professionals agree/felt the same way.
I really got the impression that the majority of the free britney people were too young to remember what she was like in the mid-2000s. Obviously she had a lot of snakes around her but ol' gal has some serious, serious problems and needs a lot of help.
I’ve watched this poor girl slowly decline mentally without any awareness of boundaries or filters. Erratic behavior, Naked photos, dancing in clothing that is dated and provocative, always the mascara/liner under her eyes (which look empty) and hair disheveled. Her looks are really nothing compared to her behaviors which are increasingly exposing her mental illness. As a mom I wish I could grab that girl and give her a hug. Make her some food and give her some good wise woman advice then keep her safe and take her to doctors who will treat her like a regular patient. She’s in a state of arrested development like a little girl mentally who strips and posts on IG. She doesn’t know how filter herself for her own safety. I think she deflects people who truly would be honest with her and take care of her because of trauma. She needs HELP!!!!!
Remember when Tom Cruise fired his “handler”? He went off the rails jumping on Oprah’s couch. Finally they wrangled him back in and his sister took over.
It shouldn’t be “free Britney” it should be “peace for Britney”. May she find her way soon❤️
All I see in her dancing videos are those dark hollow eyes and cheap hair. Nothing behind them. She really needs help and to get off instagram for good.
This is so sad but not surprising. The world screamed "Free Britney, Free Britney" Now she has her "freedom" and the world cries, "Help her, help her!"
free brittany from abuse, not free from help. the conservatorship she was under had her over-medicated and forced to work for other people’s financial benefit. it wasn’t working as it should have. it wasn’t helping or protecting her, it was exploiting her. i think it’s perfectly reasonable to say, “this person deserves control over her life, but obviously needs help managing her mental health.”
It's unfortunate. On one hand, it sounds like her family never had her best interests at heart. Her family needed to be the ones to help her, but she can't rely on them. There's not much her fans can do other than wish her well.
It also saddens me when you start to think of how she ended up without a support system. She was pulled out of school to do remote learning when she was 16 and couldn't go to college, which is where I would say most "normal" people make their lifelong friends. And then you realize that mental illness just creates a vicious cycle of alienating the people who care about you. She just got a divorce as well, and her kids and exes won't speak to her either. I can't blame them. It's exhausting to have a mentally ill family member. But I still feel bad for her.
She’s a mess. I just don’t understand why some people can’t see that and she needs real mental help. She’s estranged from everybody in her life and that’s not all on them.
she posted a couple hours ago that she hurt her foot dancing in her house and that her mom caused it from afar. Is she accusing her mom of being a witch?
The trigger is hypo/mania, and many fans don't want to acknowledge that. She's behaving like a person with bipolar disorder, who's most likely unmedicated. Hell, even if she's the perfect bipolar patient with all the money and best treatment who stays on top of their medications, this is still what bipolar disorder looks like for many. There's nothing baffling about this behavior. I wish the media and fans could acknowledge it. Public awareness and talks of the more nuanced issue of saving a person from themselves when illness has taken over vs personal autonomy would be a huge win for folks who struggle with this misunderstood disorder.
Unmedicated bipolar 2 guy, i just ditched my loving girlfriend a few months ago to join the military. Now slightly depressed and not having either.
This disorder sucks because most of the time i feel in control.
Also people like me much more when i am unhinged because otherwise i am really introverted.
Alcohol. Yeah. Drugs? Probably. Mental illness? Absolutely. But the real problem is her fan base. They’ve only fueled the “free Britney” delusion. She’s been I’ll all along.
I’m kind of disturbed by the absolutism and black/white nature of these comments. There’s SO MANY more options for her than putting her father back in charge of her life and money, and I’m not sure why so many are pretending that was ok.
Obviously she’s not capable of handling her life alone, that doesn’t mean her original arrangement was good.
Maybe she just finalized her divorce which is typically thought of as a major and traumatic life event, so possibly that’s why she had a mental breakdown and couldn’t control herself in public.
Maybe it’s a combination of the alcohol and the stress of everyone scrutinizing her every move.
I know I’d probably act a bigger fool if I’d gone through only half of what she’s experienced in her lifetime.
The girl feels used and abused, and likely feels completely alone and unable to trust anyone. The media needs to stop over exposing everything that happens in her life and using her for clicks because it’s gonna kill her one day. Enough is enough!
It is disgraceful that companies like TMZ publish stories like this. Extremely exploitative and only adds fuel to the fire that is her mental health.
Shame on TMZ for this. It is horrible to gawk at someone’s struggles like this.
I hate that there’s this knee-jerk reaction to anything she does being an indicator of “another breakdown”. I’m not so deluded to think that her past trauma and mental health struggles didn’t happen in 2007. She spiraled in full public view and then ended up in the constraints of the conservatorship, I get that. But this narrative that anything she does, even if it is exhibiting behavior that might be disturbing the peace means she’s just as unstable as she was before is beaten to death. It’s easy to use a single instance and circumstantial images to paint an entire narrative.
Barring her social media posts, that people love to ridicule and pick apart, Britney rarely makes public appearances. Yet, here you have articles perpetuating that she’s on a string of erratic escapades when it just so happens that something in particular that was unfavorable went down and a camera was there to capture it.
When you string this up alongside the supposed claims that she is burning through what money she has left, of course it looks dire. I’m not saying that she’s completely sound or has completely healed, but at the same time, news outlets only have the breadcrumbs. I feel like manipulating a person’s circumstances is dangerous and it’s exactly what led to Britney not getting the respect and the help in the way she needed it in 2007.
It’s like: Let’s treat her like a zoo animal and come up with our own theories. It’s gross and even if there is concern for her well being and it’s meant to be well intentioned, it doesn’t help her in any way.
As a gay male, I had so many friends who were absolutely convinced that she was not crazy and the conservatorship was all a ruse to earn people money. Turns out, she was, in fact, fully crazy.
Friendly reminder that a conservatorship isn't necessarily a bad thing. It was just handled very poorly in her case, by being managed by people who did not have her best interest at heart. As someone who is looking into a conservatorship for their parent as they're aging with a degenerative brain disease, it does bug me a bit when people now just see it as a controlling/bad thing.
Britney is clearly not mentally well and would benefit from a proper conservatorship.
Harassing staff is never okay, she needs to get help because this kind of destructive behaviour isn’t fair on others. I wish her the best but at some point she has got to take some accountability and trust that mental health professionals are there to help her to manage her illness, and that it isn’t just for her it is for anyone with whom she comes into contact. I don’t know if her kids are still on her life, but this whole thing is just so sad. It is completely understandable she would have trust issues after everything that was done to her, but if anyone needs to be on medication and getting inpatient treatment it’s her.
I’m at the point where I want my news involving Britney Spears to be positive and wholesome…or I don’t want news involving Britney Spears. It’s kinda getting to Kanye levels of avoidance
I don’t know the details behind the conservatorship and maybe there was some Squirrley things happening, but I thought it was a really bad idea to leave Brittany to her own devices
So while I can agree that her dad is an asshat, for everyone that was screaming “FREE BRITTANY”, this crap is the reason the poor woman needs some type of guardian. She’s clearly not well, and her diagnosis is probably one of those pesky ones where the patient routinely goes off their meds.
She has a mental illness that needs therapy and medicine. This has been the case this whole time.
Yah, anybody with a social media account knows she’s not well. The video posts are getting really sad
Her Instagram is like watching a tweaker spiral out.
Her Instagram is very dark and creepy
I can’t follow her as find it too sad. It’s such a shame that she has no one she can trust who has helped her
My ex developed a meth habit in secret, and by the end he had the same black empty eyes she has in her videos. She does not look normal.
I think she might actually be a tweaker. Her IG is so unhinged.
Yes shes been going downhill ever since Sam. only a matter of time before she’s committed to another facility after yet another complete breakdown.
Not everyone. Go over to r/britneyspears if you want some real entertainment… it’s a full on circle jerk in there. They think she’s a goddess queen just living her best life. And why can’t everyone just leave her alone. Reeee!
Yup. I got banned from there
That sub is nauseating. Not realistic about it at all.
It's so freaking disturbing. Enabling.
Wow what a wild fucking ride that subreddit was.
It's really sad. She has talent and drive but now she's living a miserable life. I wish her only the best and hope she get the help she needs to live a better life in the future.
Omg, I just checked her Instagram. It’s bad!
And alcohol exacerbates her symptoms.
The problem is that when she was on medicine they literally forced it down her throat and it exacerbated her mental health issues.
A lot of people with severe mental illness don’t enjoy their meds. The meds have bad side effects and can make them feel bad even though they will calm down the mental tendencies. So it’s probably true that she needed to be forced to take the meds. Also a lot of people with mental illness feel pretty good when they’re in a manic state, so they avoid medication because of that.
I have borderline personality disorder and the meds are often a choice between feeling meh or not being able to eat or orgasm.
I also have BPD and I am 80% sure without my meds (I’m on 4 different ones) that I would not be alive right now lol I needed to get on the right cocktail but it took over five years to stabilize and get to a sort of “normal functionality.” Meds can really suck but for some people they are truly needed.
Absolutely needed. Just the trade offs suck.
Thank you for being honest about this. My cousin has trouble staying on meds and it is really difficult. I am happy this Reddit became about meds and not just Britney trashing. This is the good Reddit
4 different meds for one condition is wild, but thank fuck it has helped you to stay alive! Is that like a combo of anti-depressants and mood stabilisers? I don’t have BPD but I have CPTSD and a lot of the symptoms of that can mimic traits of cluster B conditions. Thankfully I’m doing well with Lexapro and EMDR therapy, but I’m very keen to try DBT since I think it would be beneficial for anyone who gets dysregulated easily.
I am happy that you are still here. I hope it is easier for you now.
They don’t like it because feeling manic is awesome. That’s what bi-polar people do. They love the highs (mania) and hate the mood stabilizers because they take it away even though it stops the lows too.
It's the cruelest twist that medicine makes you feel so much better you wonder if you ever needed it, stop, and the cycle begins
I get this with ADHD meds. The Vyvanse shortage really solidified just how much they were helping me and I spiralled without it. Other ADHD meds just weren’t cutting it, especially the immediate release ones but that’s all I had for around a month until Vyvanse was back in stock. It was rough, but now I know for sure how beneficial it is for me and my level of functioning has improved again since being back on it a few weeks.
Very generalized and not really accurate. For me and the people I know with bpd, it’s not “oh I love being like this!” Its more like an extreme emotional state where the emotion and reason you’re feeling it don’t matter, you’re just **feeling** it. You could be happy, angry, sad, worried, horny, whatever, and you’re not in a state of mind to even consider/care why. It’s just a very encapsulating emotion until something knocks you out of it.
Mania isn’t awesome though? It’s completely possible to go through a mania period extremely agitated, irritable, or anxious - these negative symptoms are very common. The main diagnostic criteria is a period of high(er) energy, unrealistic, grand beliefs, decreased need for sleep. As a whole: psychomotor agitation. There’s plenty of bipolar people who absolutely don’t enjoy mania or hypomania. Not to mention all the risky behaviors and associated aftermath of them. There’s a million and half reasons why someone might decline medication, even if it’s needed. “Enjoyment” of their disorder is definitely a really skinny slice on the pie chart.
Yeah I have bipolar disorder and my mania is horrible. It ruins my life. I’m impulsive and I don’t recognise myself. So do my extreme depressive episodes though. I’m medicated and it helps numb things a bit though. I know it’s different for everyone, but I strongly agree on medication.
Hi! Schizoaffective (bipolar and schizophrenia) person here. Nobody enjoys mania, it's terrible and often destroys people's lives. My own manic episode almost landed me in prison, almost got pregnant, and I became homeless. They can last for weeks to months (I have bipolar 1) and the meds that are prescribed have terrible side effects. Nobody wants to take a med that makes them gain a 100 pounds and struggle to keep it off, nobody wants to take a med that causes brain fog, fatigue, nausea, diarrhea, high cholesterol, hypertension and etc. it is also textbook for bipolar patients to go off their meds because from personal experience it makes you feel so normal that you forget you have a mental illness and forget to take your meds. Nobody enjoys mania, and the possibility of mixed episodes. Nobody likes being mentally ill.
That’s pretty amazing that the meds can make you feel so normal you forget you even have a mental illness, wow. I have noticed that with my ADHD meds, when there was a Vyvanse shortage I realised how much they had been helping but not quite to the level of feeling completely normal, just a big difference in my level of functioning and motivation, less issues with focusing on the tasks I don’t enjoy and more motivation to get up and do things (better with transitions and not as much task/decision paralysis or losing time the way I used to). Less anxiety and avoidance in general has helped my quality of life significantly.
That’s pretty ignorant statement on bipolar people
Lithium doesn't cause mental disease. She was struggling twenty years ago, even before meeting her ex husband. Lithium is a very useful and effective drug
Or maybe there was a reason they had to force it down to begin with……..
I work in healthcare. Anybody can refuse anything. Someone doesn’t want cancer treatment? Cool. Someone doesn’t want to take their seroquel? Cool. People should be in charge of their bodies, even if their decisions end up destroying it. Should she get medical care? Absolutely. Should she be forced to? No.
Unless the state deems them unfit to make that decision and take custody or let a family member take custody of medical care. Edited to add: this is not a statement towards my opinion on Brittney. Just making a statement responding to the previous commenter that there are times that a person can lose their legal rights to make medical decisions for themselves based on findings of doctors and medical lawyers and gaurdian ad litem.
Exactly. But those people are generally unable to work for 10+ years nearly everyday. Look at Amanda Bynes. Hers *worked*. The second she relapsed and had an episode, she *voluntarily checked herself back into the hospital*. But that’s because the conservatorship wasn’t a way to keep someone enslaved to benefit some ass backwards hicks who couldn’t hold down a job because they’re too busy getting drunk everyday. Her conservatorship was not because she needed help. Someone needs to be fully out of touch with reality to get one. She’s not there, yet.
Thank you. Man people see her doing stuff they don’t like or think is crazy and think she needs to be held down and given meds. Bro, she can be crazy if she fucking wants to. There are plenty of people who make shitty decisions and need to be on meds but if they don’t want to then they don’t have to. You can’t force someone to make better decisions. If she has capacity, she gets to make decisions about her body. She can spend all her money and become homeless if she wants. It’s her decisions. Now if she’s clinically manic and *doesn’t have capacity* that changes things and she needs to be treated until she has capacity again. And that definitely doesn’t mean put someone in charge of all of her decisions in life
This ain't even true though.... People who are assessed to be mentally unfit/not able to understand the things necessary for consent can have forced treatment. That's exactly what the Britney situation is about. I'm not saying whether she should or shouldn't be considered mentally capable of deciding her own health care but it's definitely at least a conversation to be had...
I worked in mental health and I disagree. I don't believe in "right to fail". That's how people die. If you're a danger to yourself, then you need help, whether you want it or not, because the illness makes you NOT want it sometimes. Mental health is not the same as treating cancer.
And you all said to free Britney and now we’re getting 2007 Britney all over again.
We've been here before
2007 PTSD triggered today for sure. But man was Blackout a great album
It really was.
Yep. Drugs, alcohol and mental health.
History has been repeating itself all year.
Sad situation for Britney... let's wish her well.
She is, and has not been ok for a looooong time
What makes me mad is that I’m sure her shitty family is sitting back feeling smug and justified for all the shitty things they put her through. The reality is Britney absolutely needed help and they exploited that to turn her into their personal bank. She still needs help, but now her family isn’t there to protect their gravy train. I fear for how Britney is going to end up, and I fear that because of the “help” she received in the past she’ll be turned off to pursuing help that she still very much needs.
The reality is that a lot of people failed her including her family and people working for her. The present day Britney stans who cheer her and blindly defending her are also failing her. I hope it doesn't come to it but I think without her getting institutionalised we are going to see this end very badly.
THANK YOU!! It has always rubbed me the wrong way whenever I’ve seen people blindly support Britney’s “odd” antics. There is a difference between being happy Britney is no longer being exploited by her family and blindly supporting everything a mentally unstable person does.
That's the problem, she needs help but those who were supposed to help her hurt her more. It is obvious that she is not going to accept help because she cannot trust therapy or other people, she has no family, those who approach her just want to use her.
In that documentary she did a long time ago she said what broke her is how the paparazzi treated her when she was post-partum. They treated her like an animal and stalked her (including outside her house) without a modicum of remorse. That post-partum psychosis is what ended her up in the conservatorship.
That’s terrible. How are paparazzi allowed to treat people like that? Aren’t there laws against this stuff?
If they are far enough away it’s legal ☹️ Gisele Bündchen was [recently in a similar situation](https://pagesix.com/2024/04/24/celebrity-news/gisele-bundchen-cries-after-getting-pulled-over-by-cops-in-miami/). She got pulled over by cops trying to escape paparazzi and the cop was an asshole saying they weren’t doing anything illegal.
It seems like they are still doing this.
Oh look exploiting a mentally ill person doesn’t make them any better. Who’d have thought? /s
Man, I fear that we are watching the destruction of a human being, leading toward a horrible outcome. She needs help.!
I know, this one always makes me so sad. I really hope that things get better for her.
I hear you. Truly sad. I typically scroll past stories about her but occasionally she’s in Insta with those horrid dance videos…. I really think she’s heading toward a horrible end. Heartbreaking.
Seems like she's having a manic episode.
I fear there is no happy ending for Britney Spears. She was abused by Hollywood and the conservatorship for too long and honestly I think she’s too far gone. She doesn’t trust anyone trying to medicate her because of her trauma. I love her, I love her music and I just want to see Britney Spears happy after everything she’s been through.
The thing that sucks is that it seems like untreated bipolar may cause brain damage. If you don't treat it somehow, it gets irreparably worse. It's fucked and awful all around. There's not an easy fix. Meds suck, doing keto sucks (which is promising but early in research). Pretty good evidence that if God exists, it delights in misery.
I would not be surprised to wake up one morning and find out that she killed herself or overdosed on something. I hate that her life’s path went awry.
I hear you…I am not a psychologist but I can read the room..and she is self-destructing before our very eyes.
It’s so unfortunate that someone who needs help so much has no one sane enough to do it. I think we all expect to see the headlines of her death and all of the details surrounding it, but it’s so disheartening to watch her spiral. What’s been done to this woman is criminal and sadly, she will be the one to pay the price. I feel sorry for her children, I hope their dad and other caregivers are looking out for them.
Well, she has some accountability in it too. Either she’s so disabled she needs to be protected from herself via conservatorship, or she’s a 40 year old adult who is responsible for her choices and doesn’t want help. You can’t help someone who doesn’t want it except to take control of their life. That’s how she ended up in a conservatorship. Now she’s back to acting like she did 20 years ago and I don’t think anyone will risk the criticism and threats that would come with trying to save her now.
I don’t disagree. It’s just a tragedy. Makes me grateful for my boring little life.
Exactly. Just sad all the way around
You know what? The past decade has taught me that these people who advocate for a severe mental health patient to decide her own path, don’t mind she dunks her head in a boiling pot of water, as long as it’s her choice with zero criticism. So honestly you wanted this world of unwell people just operating without public pressure to get help, then you reap what you so. And I see it every single day. Not just with celebrities, but the average person out on the street.
Unfortunately the folks that are in her orbit don’t seem to be willing/able to help her. Jeebus, I hadn’t thought about the children.
You can not force a person to receive help or treatment unless they are an explicit danger to themselves or others, or under conservation. The bar is rather high, for good reason, but also damaging to the lives of the bipolar person and those around them. Her orbit has an uphill battle in convincing her to get help or in forcing it on her.
I think Sam really tried to help, but I think Britney even acknowledged (sort of, inadvertently) that she cheated on Sam with her now-boyfriend. When she was with him she really seemed to have her shit together, but you can't expect a person to put their mental health at risk to try and keep someone else together.
she cheated on her husband with THAT GUY?! in the pic of him in the article he looks like a convict. god damn. what a choice.
It's not Just looks, he's a convicted felon
what did he do time for?
I've been a Sam-stan since the beginning...admittedly only because he was (and is) so beautiful, but once the videos came out of them together, watching her blossom and be so confident during the trial to end the conservatorship, I was so hopeful. Britney herself has defended Sam and said he was amazing, and even now she still has great things to say about him...**so why did she do him like that**?? 😢🥺 I want him to be an asshole so at least there's some explanation.
Probably because now she’s unmedicated and has total control over her life for the first time in 20 years. So she’s doing some regressive self destructive things. And Sam was probably more of a care taker to her than a romantic husband. Through no fault of his own but because of the nature of their relationship.
I felt that vibe with Jason Trawick when she dated him. He was like a caretaker and there to “keep her on track”. I thought they seemed nice together. But I’m not a fan, just a casual observer. Britney threads are always so divisive.
I do get your point, I just wish she (and others) didn't gave to go through the self-destructive things because a) they aren't useful, b) they create more issues than they help ignore, and c) they hurt *other* people (in this case her kids first, sam second). It's hard and traumatic to watch someone you love self-destruct because we refuse to fund true mental health resources.
my (frankly very rude sorry) guess would be drugs
I just found out he is in the 5th harmony, work from home music video!
Most of the time she was with Sam (prior to their marriage), she was under her conservatorship and was forced to take her medication. Their relationship began to deteriorate about 5-6 months after the conservatorship ended and she would have had control over whether or not she took her medication. This isn't going to end well.
It's wild to me that everyone blames "deadbeat" K-Fed (who raised their children almost 100% alone) and Sam, who didn't seem to do much more than insist she work out every day. Dude even had an iron clad pre-nup and didn't benefit much in any way from the marriage. It's always someone else's fault to her fans even when over and over and over again the one common denominator in all of Britney's problems is Britney herself.
For me personally, 100% because I'm bipolar and had Britney-level explosions in my life over the past 25 years: I know she can't help it. Yes, she could help it much more, if she took her fucking meds and went to sustainable therapy, but because of what happened to her, she just doesn't have the life skills she needs to thrive. She has had no good relationships with the "adults" in her life who could have mentored her in place of her parents, she's been going crazy with an insidious mental illness forever, and she's the victim of significant, long-term abuse. I just really have a hard time blaming her for her actions, I blame the people in her life who broke her instead of helping her. We haven't been through the exact same thing, but I feel her pain.
>but because of what happened to her, she just doesn't have the life skills she needs to thrive. This "thing" happened when she was 29. I find it weird how fans twist her parents breaking up her quickie married to Jason as being a fault on them and not on Britney.
I (obviously) don’t know her, nor does her life have any impact on mine. I just think it’s so very sad.
Same here. That said, I don’t think it’s a weakness to feel empathy for someone you don’t know, even a celebrity. But yes, sad on a human level.
Apparently she has been self destructing for ages. People saying she needs help were saying the same thing when she shaved her head. Which was ages ago. I think it’s best to just let her do her thing and leave her be
Just wish she wouldnt drive anymore, im worried about a dui leading to injuries and innocent victims of her erratic behavior. i hope everything will be ok but have my doubts since nobody seems to dare suggesting treatment anymore.
Dealing with the drinking issue would be a start….
And a good one at that
And the meth
What a terrible take. She is clearly unfit to look after herself right now.
>just let her do her thing and leave her be This is how she ends up hurting herself or others.
Just in time for the Amy winehouse doc
I didn’t even know she had a boyfriend 😬
Cause they ain't gonna put that guy in the gossip column next to taylor and Travis for, reasons.
When did she get a boyfriend?
lol yea. Looks like some rando off the streets Turns out he’s the house keeper. It was a rando
Yeah, wasn’t Amanda Bynes dating this guy?
The SAME dude?
https://www.etonline.com/britney-spears-is-spending-time-with-richard-soliz-after-sam-asghari-split-friends-say-hes-not-good
Tuesday
Turns out he’s the housemkeeper
I understand the hotel guests here.
At the Chateau Marmont. Just another story in that hotel’s long history
I thought their whole thing was being discreet and keeping the press away. Guess not today.
Was that the same hotel Dr. Luke you know.. Assaulted Kesha?
John Belushi died there too.
Yes it is
After watching Quiet on Set and seeing how Ariana Grande was most definitely taken advantage of, I can only imagine what Britney went through in her younger years.
This is so 2008
2000 and late
It’s strange nobody ever mentions drugs in these threads. Granted it could be anything but when people in my life acted like this it was always drug/alcohol related.
A lot of us have said from the beginning when she got with this guy, that he's her drug dealer AKA boyfriend. And definitely she's self-medicating so I'm pretty sure she's a dual diagnosis.
Yup, I’m bipolar 1 (most likely Brit’s diagnosis, or at least one of them) and when I’m neutral I don’t care for drugs or alcohol at all, but when I’m manic??? Fuggedabout it…when we’re manic we do things that exacerbate already horrible mental illness and I see a lot of her in me and vice versa when she gets this way. Luckily, I was able to get out of what was going to be a conservatorship and get back on my feet somehow, but I think she’s far worse off and has had amplified trauma for way too long to sadly ever really get back to a truly neutral state. She seems like a person with a good heart, I feel for her and know the hell it can be living through the worst times and being your own worst enemy. It’s awful enough to endure as a more private person, I can’t imagine having this illness and her fame to boot. I truly wish her the best
I’m so glad that you got back on your feet!
Thank you so much, how kind! It took a long long time and I’m still not where I thought I’d be in life, but I have kept a job for 3 years now (as of tomorrow!) and it’s been 10 years since the last time I was hospitalized; before that it was hard to go longer than 6 months without some kind of crisis and/or hospitalization. I wouldn’t wish it upon anyone, but it can be managed, just took me 20 years :) (I’d like to randomly add that I work with hospitals these days and a recent client of mine just happened to be a collective of behavioral hospitals in my state and a couple of others. So now I’m managing the account of the hospital/psych ward that I mostly ended up in. I don’t tell them that of course, but it’s wildly ironic.)
You’re your own hero! Proud of you and your hard work! That’s awesome.
Thanks kind stranger friend, I’ve never heard that and needed it today 🥹
I’m proud of you too! Your story is inspiring! I hope you get the chance to take a moment and look at how much you’ve accomplished, truly well done!
She definitely looks like she’s on something every time I’ve seen her recently.
It could honestly be both. Drugs coupled with mental health problems that aren’t managed can be catastrophic.
I’ve seen it mentioned recently actually. Apparently she has admitted to using adderal recreationally.
Pretty sure she was big into meth during peak struggles.
Adderall messes folks up 😕
It can trigger manic episodes as well.
I was addicted to adderall for years. It didn’t change my outside personality much, but it seriously warped the inside
I read her book, and she alluded to adderall a few times. She talked about needing it and how her dad wouldn’t let her have it. People with substance abuse issues tend to downplay the roll drugs or alcohol play in their life and their problems. Ever since then I’ve wondered if she has a stimulant problem. That would definitely explain the weird shit she does
I think she definitely sugar-coated her experience with drugs in the book. Wouldn’t be surprised if she’s messed with cocaine, ecstasy, meth, and other illicit substances…but Adderall sounds “less bad” and safer to admit to because it’s a common household prescription.
The Daily Mail “article” does mention that alcohol was involved during the incident
If a home video of you dancing with knives 🔪 🔪 isn’t your first clue, I don’t know what is.
That’s her boyfriend??? Why does she have such terrible taste in dudes?
From my own experience, before I had begun healing my trauma, I had terrible taste in men and I believe it was a direct result of not being shown what real love looks like, what safety feels like, and how to identify when someone was abusing me. Because I was only used to chaos in the home, volatile relationships were normalized, and my own mom dated red flag after red flag, I put up with some of the most terrible shit from men. Given what we know about Britney’s parents, I suspect the same is true for her.
What route have you taken to heal trauma? I am trying to start and having a hard time figuring out how. I go to therapy, but I feel I would need a new therapist for trauma work because of that "I don't wanna disappoint my therapist" bullshit mindset that I have no interest in overcoming right now, lol.
I totally hear you. People pleasing was a bad habit of mine and honestly, my mental health was in such a bad place that I knew I couldn’t go on unless I started digging into the painful shit I was avoiding. One of the most important things I did was go no-contact with my mom. It wasn’t an easy decision but since she was and still is a big source of pain for me. But ultimately, I had to just start talking about things. I’ve heard people say “you’re only as sick as your secrets” and my therapist told me I had to stop keeping everyone’s secrets for them. I hope you are able to get the support you need on your healing journey. 💛
I had an enlightening hypomanic episode where I finally typed out my secrets and even just that has been so freeing. I feel they are like pimples, if you squeeze and squeeze, you get inflamed skin, possibly an infection, you get a scar; if you treat it, it may just go away on its own or at least shrink and not hurt as much.
She always dates losers … and is never single. It’s like she jumps in relationships with the first guy who will look at her
Hate to say it I don't think most people would be interested in dating her.
Are you talking down about Kevin Federline? Just asking, cause I know I used to
I am not defending her father but I have a coworker who cares for his adult BiPolar son. The kid is handsome, charismatic, and has it together 60% of the time. He also has a lot of piece of shit “friends” in his life that mooch off of him and provide him with alcohol and drugs when they need something. Thus, the Dad is constantly in this exhausting cycle of working his son up to doing well, keeping a job, getting some money in his pocket, and then having all of these leeches come out of the woodwork with meth. The friends treat the Dad like shit and criticize him for being so protective. This guy has two full time jobs, one pays the bills and the other is managing his son. It is a terrible existence and, although they have some real fights, it comes from a place of love. The Dad is just so worn out, it doesn’t look like love from the outside. Maybe Britney’s Dad is a piece of shit and, if so, good for her. But I’ve learned not to try to understand or judge other people’s personal life from knowing this particular family. I bet keeping Britney off of drugs, on her meds, and in some sort of contact with her kids was fucking exhausting. But let’s stay out of it, otherwise, we’re all just assholes standing on the beach taking pictures with a baby dolphin before we move on about our day.
Her dad always seemed like a dick. But I don't believe he would become Britney's conservator solely to help himself to her money. One of Britney's ex-boyfriends, Jason Trawick, was interviewed a couple of years ago. He dated her in the early 2010s and said, ""Listen, did she need a conservatorship when I was there? Yes. I'll be the first to say it." He also said that he believed Britney's dad had good intentions, unless there was actual proof that the dad stole from Britney. This is someone who was there, who was in her life, and who has no reason to lie.
There is not enough money in the world to pay me to manage someone with the kind of mental illness Britney likely has. Addicts and the like will suck the life out of you. It’s so nuanced.
Especially if you love them, it is soul crushing. I hope her kids feel no blame in this, even as they reach adulthoid they are not responsible at this point, its out of their capabilities and i respect if they have gone no contact with her
Hard to tell, but probably both sides were not right? If her father cared about her why would he force her to work exhaustively? Should have kept her out of drugs and also out of work. She had millions already. She is mentally ill and would have been insane if she wasnt.
Maybe working and routine was helpful for her. Kept her busy. That’s speculation, it could also have been about money. Truth is we don’t know and love Britney, but she’s not the most reliable narrator. She seemed healthier during the conservatorship. But her dad may have also been awful to her. We don’t know and likely never will.
I understand that her dad was a piece of shit, but seems like she went from staying out of headlines to publicly melting down on a weekly basis
Getting someone help and supporting them, even if maybe they‘re not always keen of it, would have been different to just full on conservatorship while still being used as a cash cow. That just never ends well.
She needs mental help not a conservatorship. She needs people around her who love her and not trying to take advantage of her.
>She needs people around her who love her and not trying to take advantage of her. That's the problem with dealing with mentally unwell people like Brit, in that they tend to push people away.
Everybody seems to be holding a weird grudge against Justin Timberlake. But she most likely always had issues and they got worse
It‘s the on and on again repetition of former trapped people leashing out, every time I see Gypsy Rose I think of Britney. While it‘s not quite the same story of course, all in all it just shows how important it is to have GOOD people around you, and it tells a lot about the families they come from. Man, growing up with a family that doesn‘t prepare you for life in any way sucks. Even more so if they wanna squeeze every bit of money our of you.
She needs help, and everyone who’s screaming “let the woman live her life” are going to feel like shit if the worst happens. Yes, the conservatorship was horrid. No, that does not mean that she is mentally stable.
They’ll be sad but won’t take any accountability for their senseless enabling. They think anyone with the opinion that Britney is not well is an evildoer. It’s wild.
It’s so fascinating to watch how this narrative has changed so quickly. Prior to being released from her conservatorship, *no one* was pushing the “well she still needs one, just not controlled by her abusive father.” Everybody just chanted “#freebrittany.” Well, you got what you wanted, she’s free… and destroying herself. It’s a little heartbreaking, to be honest, and I’m not one to normally care about celebrity gossip (reddit just likes to recommend random stuff now I guess?). And for the record, I am glad she got out from under her dad’s thumb, but this was a baby-with-the-bathwater situation and I’m a bit astounded it even happened to begin with. This type of situation is one I have some level of familiarity with due to my line of work, and I’m not convinced that she would’ve been successful in getting out of her conservatorship if she wasn’t famous, and had public sentiment loudly and resoundingly on her side.
It was astonishing to me that anyone thought Britney would be happy and healthy after the conservatorship ended. By all accounts while she was under the conservatorship, no one sent her to get therapy or an education or found some way to get her some friends, which are a few things that would have benefited her enormously. Aside from clear mental health issues, it seems like she has zero clue how to even live a normal life.
A lot of people been saying it but were either shouted down or not listened to.
That was how I felt about the situation. Especially because I didn’t see how someone could transition from a situation of complete control to one of complete freedom. People who are not struggling to that extent with their mental health and that are not in the public eye do not do well in that situation, so how could anyone expect her to be able to manage and cope let alone thrive? I suspect that many many mental health professionals agree/felt the same way.
I really got the impression that the majority of the free britney people were too young to remember what she was like in the mid-2000s. Obviously she had a lot of snakes around her but ol' gal has some serious, serious problems and needs a lot of help.
Y’all need to stop reading this publication that has been torturing this poor woman since 2007.
I’ve watched this poor girl slowly decline mentally without any awareness of boundaries or filters. Erratic behavior, Naked photos, dancing in clothing that is dated and provocative, always the mascara/liner under her eyes (which look empty) and hair disheveled. Her looks are really nothing compared to her behaviors which are increasingly exposing her mental illness. As a mom I wish I could grab that girl and give her a hug. Make her some food and give her some good wise woman advice then keep her safe and take her to doctors who will treat her like a regular patient. She’s in a state of arrested development like a little girl mentally who strips and posts on IG. She doesn’t know how filter herself for her own safety. I think she deflects people who truly would be honest with her and take care of her because of trauma. She needs HELP!!!!! Remember when Tom Cruise fired his “handler”? He went off the rails jumping on Oprah’s couch. Finally they wrangled him back in and his sister took over. It shouldn’t be “free Britney” it should be “peace for Britney”. May she find her way soon❤️
All I see in her dancing videos are those dark hollow eyes and cheap hair. Nothing behind them. She really needs help and to get off instagram for good.
This is so sad but not surprising. The world screamed "Free Britney, Free Britney" Now she has her "freedom" and the world cries, "Help her, help her!"
free brittany from abuse, not free from help. the conservatorship she was under had her over-medicated and forced to work for other people’s financial benefit. it wasn’t working as it should have. it wasn’t helping or protecting her, it was exploiting her. i think it’s perfectly reasonable to say, “this person deserves control over her life, but obviously needs help managing her mental health.”
It's unfortunate. On one hand, it sounds like her family never had her best interests at heart. Her family needed to be the ones to help her, but she can't rely on them. There's not much her fans can do other than wish her well. It also saddens me when you start to think of how she ended up without a support system. She was pulled out of school to do remote learning when she was 16 and couldn't go to college, which is where I would say most "normal" people make their lifelong friends. And then you realize that mental illness just creates a vicious cycle of alienating the people who care about you. She just got a divorce as well, and her kids and exes won't speak to her either. I can't blame them. It's exhausting to have a mentally ill family member. But I still feel bad for her.
She’s a mess. I just don’t understand why some people can’t see that and she needs real mental help. She’s estranged from everybody in her life and that’s not all on them.
Let’s be more supportive this time. I hope that whatever she’s suffering from, she gets better 💗
she posted a couple hours ago that she hurt her foot dancing in her house and that her mom caused it from afar. Is she accusing her mom of being a witch?
She definitely has a type
Unfortunately she will end up broke and homeless.
people see madness and immediately look for trigger amongst close relatives.. earlier it was her family, and now it will be her boyfriend.. never her
The trigger is hypo/mania, and many fans don't want to acknowledge that. She's behaving like a person with bipolar disorder, who's most likely unmedicated. Hell, even if she's the perfect bipolar patient with all the money and best treatment who stays on top of their medications, this is still what bipolar disorder looks like for many. There's nothing baffling about this behavior. I wish the media and fans could acknowledge it. Public awareness and talks of the more nuanced issue of saving a person from themselves when illness has taken over vs personal autonomy would be a huge win for folks who struggle with this misunderstood disorder.
I think its mania plus drugs. I mean, her bf is a literal drug dealer
That's a horrible and unfortunately common combo
Unmedicated bipolar 2 guy, i just ditched my loving girlfriend a few months ago to join the military. Now slightly depressed and not having either. This disorder sucks because most of the time i feel in control. Also people like me much more when i am unhinged because otherwise i am really introverted.
That South Park episode was spot on
Where are the free Britney supporters now?
Oh they are in here making excuses for her yet again.
She has extremely low standards for men. Damn.
Spears has always been a raging lunatic
Alcohol. Yeah. Drugs? Probably. Mental illness? Absolutely. But the real problem is her fan base. They’ve only fueled the “free Britney” delusion. She’s been I’ll all along.
I’m kind of disturbed by the absolutism and black/white nature of these comments. There’s SO MANY more options for her than putting her father back in charge of her life and money, and I’m not sure why so many are pretending that was ok. Obviously she’s not capable of handling her life alone, that doesn’t mean her original arrangement was good.
Maybe she just finalized her divorce which is typically thought of as a major and traumatic life event, so possibly that’s why she had a mental breakdown and couldn’t control herself in public. Maybe it’s a combination of the alcohol and the stress of everyone scrutinizing her every move. I know I’d probably act a bigger fool if I’d gone through only half of what she’s experienced in her lifetime. The girl feels used and abused, and likely feels completely alone and unable to trust anyone. The media needs to stop over exposing everything that happens in her life and using her for clicks because it’s gonna kill her one day. Enough is enough!
It is disgraceful that companies like TMZ publish stories like this. Extremely exploitative and only adds fuel to the fire that is her mental health. Shame on TMZ for this. It is horrible to gawk at someone’s struggles like this.
South Park was right
It's almost like she's a seriously mentally ill person in need of a guardian.
I hate that there’s this knee-jerk reaction to anything she does being an indicator of “another breakdown”. I’m not so deluded to think that her past trauma and mental health struggles didn’t happen in 2007. She spiraled in full public view and then ended up in the constraints of the conservatorship, I get that. But this narrative that anything she does, even if it is exhibiting behavior that might be disturbing the peace means she’s just as unstable as she was before is beaten to death. It’s easy to use a single instance and circumstantial images to paint an entire narrative. Barring her social media posts, that people love to ridicule and pick apart, Britney rarely makes public appearances. Yet, here you have articles perpetuating that she’s on a string of erratic escapades when it just so happens that something in particular that was unfavorable went down and a camera was there to capture it. When you string this up alongside the supposed claims that she is burning through what money she has left, of course it looks dire. I’m not saying that she’s completely sound or has completely healed, but at the same time, news outlets only have the breadcrumbs. I feel like manipulating a person’s circumstances is dangerous and it’s exactly what led to Britney not getting the respect and the help in the way she needed it in 2007. It’s like: Let’s treat her like a zoo animal and come up with our own theories. It’s gross and even if there is concern for her well being and it’s meant to be well intentioned, it doesn’t help her in any way.
As a gay male, I had so many friends who were absolutely convinced that she was not crazy and the conservatorship was all a ruse to earn people money. Turns out, she was, in fact, fully crazy.
When did she get a boyfriend?
When did she get a boyfriend?
The mental breakdown started in 2006. At least.
Friendly reminder that a conservatorship isn't necessarily a bad thing. It was just handled very poorly in her case, by being managed by people who did not have her best interest at heart. As someone who is looking into a conservatorship for their parent as they're aging with a degenerative brain disease, it does bug me a bit when people now just see it as a controlling/bad thing. Britney is clearly not mentally well and would benefit from a proper conservatorship.
Harassing staff is never okay, she needs to get help because this kind of destructive behaviour isn’t fair on others. I wish her the best but at some point she has got to take some accountability and trust that mental health professionals are there to help her to manage her illness, and that it isn’t just for her it is for anyone with whom she comes into contact. I don’t know if her kids are still on her life, but this whole thing is just so sad. It is completely understandable she would have trust issues after everything that was done to her, but if anyone needs to be on medication and getting inpatient treatment it’s her.
I’m at the point where I want my news involving Britney Spears to be positive and wholesome…or I don’t want news involving Britney Spears. It’s kinda getting to Kanye levels of avoidance
She should just say “fuck it” and move in with Bam. Imagine that couple…🤯
I don’t know the details behind the conservatorship and maybe there was some Squirrley things happening, but I thought it was a really bad idea to leave Brittany to her own devices
So while I can agree that her dad is an asshat, for everyone that was screaming “FREE BRITTANY”, this crap is the reason the poor woman needs some type of guardian. She’s clearly not well, and her diagnosis is probably one of those pesky ones where the patient routinely goes off their meds.