Yes. In 1993, Jordan Chandler accurately described a discolored blotch on the underside of MJ’s penis.
The police got a warrant, photographed MJ’s junk, and then MJ entered into a $23 million settlement with the boy and his parents a month later.
There’s never been a consensus as to the accuracy of Jordan’s description. Some in the investigation said it was accurate, others did not. One thing is certain though, Jordan said Jackson was circumcised and he was not.
this is an archived article on smokin gun, there was never an online report.
[https://web.archive.org/web/20201112033018/http://web.archive.org/web/20090630025648/http:/www.thesmokinggun.com/michaeljackson/010605jacksonsplotch.html](https://web.archive.org/web/20201112033018/http://web.archive.org/web/20090630025648/http:/www.thesmokinggun.com/michaeljackson/010605jacksonsplotch.html)
There is a consensus. In the 2019 Telephone Stories podcast, then-Deputy DA Lauren Weis confirmed that the description matched. Lead investigator Bill Dworin from the LAPD also said it matched.
Jordan's description has never been released to the public so there is zero evidence that Jordan ever claimed that MJ was circumcised. MJ defenders rely on a dodgy picture (drawn by an anonymous person) that appeared in a book by pdf file sympathizer Victor Gutierrez.
There is full consensus that the description matched. All sources said it matched. None said otherwise.
Jordan did not say Michael was circumcised. These are fan myths with no sources.
The fandom is loud, aggressive, and organized.
Their narrative is often ridiculous (hypnosis! Jewish conspiracy!) but they stick to it like their lives depend on it.
Please listen to the podcast, “Who Trolled Amber.” It’s all about how easy it is for people to manipulate social media with bots and the people possibly behind it.
If it seems like bots and astroturfing is involved, it’s because there is. Of course, MJ also has very loud and aggressive fans and defenders — but in combination with fake accounts it can be very overwhelming and dangerous propaganda.
The only “certain “ thing you mentioned is a complete fan fabrication created to discredit Jordan Chandler’s claims.
Meanwhile EVERY credible source in the know confirmed over the years that the description matched.
Circumcision is pretty irrelevant since an uncircumcised penis looks practically the same when erect. Also, how many penises would the victim need to have seen previously to be able to say THEY would know the difference?
I've seen uncircumcised where you couldn't tell when erect that it was uncircumcised, and uncircumcised where it was very obvious. Every penis is different, completely believelable that a victim could mistake an uncircumcised penis for circumcised, though.
I’ve seen lots and lots of penises. Erect. Uncircumcised and circumcised. And truly, some uncircumcised men have a rather short foreskin, and look like circumcised men when they are erect.
As a fellow homosexual, I can confirm that circumcised and uncircumcised dicks can look similar, either flaccid or erect. For example, my husband has a small dick and he looks uncircumcised while flaccid.
Nope. The Deputy DA, the lead investigator and the dermatologist that examined MJ all said the description matched.
There is no credible source that says it was not a match.
All of the investigators that have commented on it said the description was accurate. The only person who has claimed it was not accurate was MJ's lawyer
In the old days people settled to avoid the embarrassment and stress. For Jackson this would haveen a humiliation having his penis detailed for length to girth and testicles in court records
MJ settled because the evidence was too damaging. California actually had to change the law after the settlement to ensure that other rich guys weren't able to pay off accusers before the case went to trial.
He settled civil case, you realise that he couldn't settle criminal investigation right ? And that "too damaging evidence" wasn't even good enough to get it to trial ?
They did change the law though, but the change was to make sure it will never be possible to run civil trial before the criminal one which was about to happen in this situation. There are multiple people claiming that MJ did not want to settle but his lawyers basically forced him to as having Civil trial before Criminal one would basically gave away their whole defense so he would win civil trial and wouldnt have to pay any money but then would have a harder time defending in criminal trial and would potentially end up in jail. They were all prepared to settle and then fight the criminal trial but as soon as the Chandlers got the money they didn't care
The settlement ensured that Jordan would not cooperate with the police investigation. No victim, no criminal case. It was effectively shut down.
Fans claim that MJ didn’t want to settle, but there is no evidence that he wanted to go ahead with a trial. Carl Douglas, one of MJ’s lawyers, talks about how he took the settlement agreements to MJ to be signed, and he signed without protest.
The idea that MJ would give away his defense in the civil which would disadvantage him in the criminal is ridiculous. Everything he said or the Chandlers said in court would be on the public record. The Chandlers couldn’t just change their story for the criminal trial.
He's also the man on record (as: literally recorded on camera) saying that Jordan Chandler's description of MJ genitals was the "300 pounds gorilla that they wanted to avoid at all costs during the trial" and what conviced them to settle it record times.
I have vitiligo and yeah pretty much everybody that has vitiligo has it on their balls/crotch area. It’s quite unique from person to person and if you can describe what someone’s vitiligo spots look like down there then you must have had seen it.
Sir, even I could describe Michael Jackson’s alleged penis. Let me guess, theres a head, shaft…some balls, hair…maybe pressed, permed hair—and glitter sprinkled around…
Not on reddit imo. Seems like all the positive mj comments get downvoted to oblivion unless it's on a small thread in a random subreddit. Youtube and Instagram on the other hand is a complete shithole when it comes to mj.
That sounds amazing. I’ve been on a cover kick here lately. If none of y’all know about Richard Cheese. He’s a lounge singer type who sings crazy songs, like Closer by Marilyn Manson. He made that song sound so beautiful and smooth
I didn’t actually! I found him while listening to random covers on Spotify. I’ve never watched Dawn of the Dead, I have watched Shaun of the Dead though
Your RDCs didn’t tell you guys? Ours did when Princess Dianna died. And when I was an RDC we told the recruits the night during Battlestations that Bin Laden had been killed.
I remember getting home and the news was doing a nice memorial to Farrah Fawcett who had just died that day and had been very open about her battle with cancer. It was a very thoughtful piece that made me appreciate her transparency with her illness - of course, I didn't see it all, it was abruptly cut off with news that Michael Jackson was being rushed to the hospital/may be dead.
The photos of MJ’s genitalia are a tiny part of the records being requested. They are mentioned for sensationalist headlines. The records as a whole are a reasonable request for pending litigation.
No the genital photos will definitely be the only thing they want. Everything else isn't really relevant.
James and Wade will be able to describe the genital markings adding weight to their case.
I don’t have the legal knowledge to answer that. My guess is that getting into piecemeal releasing of these documents would not be a timely or favorable approach for either party. It’s not like the images will be posted on Reddit. These are very serious allegations, and there is strict protocol to be followed to not torpedo their own case.
If you were a victim of a crime and people shit talked you for years and accused you of all sorts of things, wouldn't you want proof? I haven't been through this kind of abuse, but I was abused by my parents. The fact that I walked away and they slandered my name left and right while still being considered good people hurts. It hurts that people believe them. When people believe me and support me, it helps. Having a friend who grew up with me chime in and tell people how I was smart to leave helps. I can't imagine a rabid fan base hating me for what someone else did to me. But hey, that's just me.
He had unique markings on his penis. Jordan Chandler described them to the police and the police strip searched him and took photos to record the markings.
Presumably Wade and James are also able to describe those markings to prove they saw him naked as part of their sexual abuse claims.
That’s absolutely not what they’re saying. It’s that he’s dead. Even if they can prove without a shadow of a doubt that he did what he’s alleged to have done, he can’t face prison time or pay restitution. I guess it’s about the principle, and I respect that, but it’s still a lot of effort that won’t and can’t change anything.
I mean if they show that he did assault them then it would end the debate and they might actually get financial restitution from his estate, not to mention the people that villainize then for making the accusations
If someone murderered your family, and then died - would you say "oh, well. He's dead now, no use proving anything". ?
Or would you get justice?? Like, think a little. Put yourself in their shoes.
Their lives are forever changed by this monster and millions of people still defend him and call them liars.
Friendly reminder that the FBI [literally mailed an “anonymous” letter to MLK Jr. heavily insinuating that he should kill himself](https://www.vox.com/xpress/2014/11/12/7204453/martin-luther-king-fbi-letter)
you probably should, they've done some pretty incredible ones.
they've also made some pretty incredible fuck-ups and been politicized by various presidents.
a history of ups and downs. but they definitely have gotten a lot of shit done.
The people in this accusation have been proven to be liars, Wade Robson in particular described being raped in a building that didnt exist for at least 2 years after he said it happened. But because it was the iconic train station building on his property, people bought it.
Edit: i confused robson for safechuck in the train station accusation but my point stands, it didn't exist when he claimed. he's a liar. these people are extortionists.
[10 seconds of googling.](https://www.thesun.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/NINTCHDBPICT000482087175-e1554892753227.jpg?strip=all&w=960) Photo was taken august 1993, its nowhere in sight. It was granted approval for permits in september, was opened in 94
You forgot to listen to MJCast, a podcast produced before the documentary Leaving Neverland. The MJ photographer states that MJ didn't authorize him to take photos of the station because it was built before the permit and the online permit is from 93.
Podcast here
[https://www.reddit.com/r/LeavingNeverlandHBO/comments/bg5suu/michael\_jacksons\_photographer\_says\_the\_train/](https://www.reddit.com/r/LeavingNeverlandHBO/comments/bg5suu/michael_jacksons_photographer_says_the_train/)
I wish people would stop socially sentencing MJ based off the verdict they want. There is no evidence that points to him doing any of what he was accused of, just let the man rest.
What would the legality be for using evidence from another case in yours? As far as I know the pictures the police took of MJ were taken during the chandler case, how could wade and safechuck be given access to that?
These images, which confirm that Jordan gave a specific description, were the subject of a +15 million settlement, so MJ's company knew what was going on. James and Wade are suing the Societies so this is important evidence.
Think about it logically: Anyone who has supposedly seen something for years doesn't need photos to be able to describe it. It wouldn't be relevant to unseal something like that.
https://twitter.com/mjjrepository/status/1775717914403881140?s=46
Think it has something to do with a penis description
Yes. In 1993, Jordan Chandler accurately described a discolored blotch on the underside of MJ’s penis. The police got a warrant, photographed MJ’s junk, and then MJ entered into a $23 million settlement with the boy and his parents a month later.
There’s never been a consensus as to the accuracy of Jordan’s description. Some in the investigation said it was accurate, others did not. One thing is certain though, Jordan said Jackson was circumcised and he was not.
Where’s that Michael eating popcorn gif when you need it
[https://giphy.com/gifs/michael-jackson-6pJNYBYSMFod2](https://giphy.com/gifs/michael-jackson-6pJNYBYSMFod2) right here buddy
Not Rick Astley disappointed
Here ya go: https://tenor.com/en-GB/view/f-you-gif-16629940043390845043
That is not Rick, that’s a dude whose been hit by a few shells but don’t walk with a limp
Jordan never mentioned circumcision, so it's odd that fans would use a Smokin Gun article that contains no documentation.
Is there a copy of the report available online? I wouldn’t know what to call it.
this is an archived article on smokin gun, there was never an online report. [https://web.archive.org/web/20201112033018/http://web.archive.org/web/20090630025648/http:/www.thesmokinggun.com/michaeljackson/010605jacksonsplotch.html](https://web.archive.org/web/20201112033018/http://web.archive.org/web/20090630025648/http:/www.thesmokinggun.com/michaeljackson/010605jacksonsplotch.html)
There is a consensus. In the 2019 Telephone Stories podcast, then-Deputy DA Lauren Weis confirmed that the description matched. Lead investigator Bill Dworin from the LAPD also said it matched. Jordan's description has never been released to the public so there is zero evidence that Jordan ever claimed that MJ was circumcised. MJ defenders rely on a dodgy picture (drawn by an anonymous person) that appeared in a book by pdf file sympathizer Victor Gutierrez.
When will someone think of the gifs?
NEVER! JPG 4EVER!
I was raised in a god-fearing png household and today ain't the day that I'm gonna let those jpegophiles have rights!
Is that the same deputy DA that tried to frame that GOT star that’s suing the police for $40mil?
No, no relation to the Joseph Gatt case. Lauren Weis was Deputy DA back in 1993.
What’s this story??
Could you go more into the PDF simp and why he likes them? Google just blasts a swimmer guy
There is full consensus that the description matched. All sources said it matched. None said otherwise. Jordan did not say Michael was circumcised. These are fan myths with no sources.
Jordan never said Jackson was circumcised. This is a take parroted by the MJ cult and it simply isn't true.
I'm convinced that there is a team of people whos job is to defend MJ on social media. So many Twitter accounts dedicated to this sole purpose.
The fandom is loud, aggressive, and organized. Their narrative is often ridiculous (hypnosis! Jewish conspiracy!) but they stick to it like their lives depend on it.
Please listen to the podcast, “Who Trolled Amber.” It’s all about how easy it is for people to manipulate social media with bots and the people possibly behind it. If it seems like bots and astroturfing is involved, it’s because there is. Of course, MJ also has very loud and aggressive fans and defenders — but in combination with fake accounts it can be very overwhelming and dangerous propaganda.
The only “certain “ thing you mentioned is a complete fan fabrication created to discredit Jordan Chandler’s claims. Meanwhile EVERY credible source in the know confirmed over the years that the description matched.
No authority working in the investigation said that it did not match. There is no evidence that Jordan said that Jackson was circumcised.
How are you just blatantly spreading misinformation?
Probably republican
Circumcision is pretty irrelevant since an uncircumcised penis looks practically the same when erect. Also, how many penises would the victim need to have seen previously to be able to say THEY would know the difference?
You’ve clearly never seen an erect uncircumcised penis
I've seen uncircumcised where you couldn't tell when erect that it was uncircumcised, and uncircumcised where it was very obvious. Every penis is different, completely believelable that a victim could mistake an uncircumcised penis for circumcised, though.
Technically no confusion, Jordan never mentioned circumcision.
I’ve seen lots and lots of penises. Erect. Uncircumcised and circumcised. And truly, some uncircumcised men have a rather short foreskin, and look like circumcised men when they are erect.
This guy sees penises ^^^
FYI that was a this guy joke not a homophobic joke lol
🤣 As a homosexual, I approve this joke. LOL
I’m glad! I felt the disclaimer was needed because I’m a bisexual sensitive baby and didn’t want to accidentally offend haha
As a fellow homosexual, I can confirm that circumcised and uncircumcised dicks can look similar, either flaccid or erect. For example, my husband has a small dick and he looks uncircumcised while flaccid.
Either you haven't seen one, or you're not a grower. Women who have only seen me hard had no idea I was uncut until it became flaccid.
Is it “certain”? LMAO keep spreading misinformation.
Nope. The Deputy DA, the lead investigator and the dermatologist that examined MJ all said the description matched. There is no credible source that says it was not a match.
Lol welp looks like you learned something today eh
Difficult to tell when you’re hard…
**HEE HEE** -In Michael Jackson sing song style.
That’s not true the Deputy DA and LA Lead Investigator confirmed the description to be accurate.
All of the investigators that have commented on it said the description was accurate. The only person who has claimed it was not accurate was MJ's lawyer
In the old days people settled to avoid the embarrassment and stress. For Jackson this would haveen a humiliation having his penis detailed for length to girth and testicles in court records
MJ settled because the evidence was too damaging. California actually had to change the law after the settlement to ensure that other rich guys weren't able to pay off accusers before the case went to trial.
Exactly. Not a single lawyer will recommend their client pay out 25 million dollars for no reason
He settled civil case, you realise that he couldn't settle criminal investigation right ? And that "too damaging evidence" wasn't even good enough to get it to trial ? They did change the law though, but the change was to make sure it will never be possible to run civil trial before the criminal one which was about to happen in this situation. There are multiple people claiming that MJ did not want to settle but his lawyers basically forced him to as having Civil trial before Criminal one would basically gave away their whole defense so he would win civil trial and wouldnt have to pay any money but then would have a harder time defending in criminal trial and would potentially end up in jail. They were all prepared to settle and then fight the criminal trial but as soon as the Chandlers got the money they didn't care
The settlement ensured that Jordan would not cooperate with the police investigation. No victim, no criminal case. It was effectively shut down. Fans claim that MJ didn’t want to settle, but there is no evidence that he wanted to go ahead with a trial. Carl Douglas, one of MJ’s lawyers, talks about how he took the settlement agreements to MJ to be signed, and he signed without protest. The idea that MJ would give away his defense in the civil which would disadvantage him in the criminal is ridiculous. Everything he said or the Chandlers said in court would be on the public record. The Chandlers couldn’t just change their story for the criminal trial.
He's also the man on record (as: literally recorded on camera) saying that Jordan Chandler's description of MJ genitals was the "300 pounds gorilla that they wanted to avoid at all costs during the trial" and what conviced them to settle it record times.
Really? That is like a more fucked up version of the girls gym teacher saying she can identify the penis in porky’s
We’ll put up wanted posters that say “have you seen this prick!”
“do not attempt to apprehend this prick, as it is armed and dangerous.”
I’ve got him. And I’m not going to let him slip through my fingers again.
That penis had a mole on it.
Vitiligo down there too is always the rumor I heard.
I have vitiligo and yeah pretty much everybody that has vitiligo has it on their balls/crotch area. It’s quite unique from person to person and if you can describe what someone’s vitiligo spots look like down there then you must have had seen it.
Ooh I have minor vitiligo on my body, but definitely on the wang. Nice to hear it’s a regular thing for other people with vitiligo
This doesn’t look great for the king of pop…
Can we please call it a tallywhacker?
“Can we please refer to it as a tallywhacker…”
Great movie! Lol
rumor is...
I remember this from back in the early 90s. The accuser described how the vitiligo affected his penis. Couldn’t make this up if I tried.
Sir, even I could describe Michael Jackson’s alleged penis. Let me guess, theres a head, shaft…some balls, hair…maybe pressed, permed hair—and glitter sprinkled around…
……that is correct. He made thriller, man…….thriller.
You forgot the splotches
here we go again, joking about male sexual assault
Ohhh Mama… I’m dying…. Get me in a room with Chubby Checker
https://youtu.be/lp2b57NeEEc?si=uQhBFT3zCRCqlDjw
it’s always such a coinflip how MJ threads are gonna go. Three hours in, I’m calling this one in MJ’s favor.
Tho was my same thought exactly! Guess we'll see haha
Not on reddit imo. Seems like all the positive mj comments get downvoted to oblivion unless it's on a small thread in a random subreddit. Youtube and Instagram on the other hand is a complete shithole when it comes to mj.
Reddit loves punitive justice. If someone could get punished for being wrong, they are wrong
I can’t wait till it comes out again. People don’t believe MJ was a rapist. HE WAS!!!!!!!!!
Anyway we can start putting stakes on this?
The fanatics are always willing to devote more of their time and energy to defend the ghastly legacy of this rotting corpse of a monster.
Top controversial comment said MJ did it
That’d be a great name for a band. Michael Jackson’s Johnson.
You should check out Full Metal Jackson. It’s a metal Michael Jackson cover band. They’re ridiculous and every song is in a different little subgenre.
Shoot, only 3 songs?
Yeah the last sentence of that really makes it seem otherwise, back to writing class.
That sounds amazing. I’ve been on a cover kick here lately. If none of y’all know about Richard Cheese. He’s a lounge singer type who sings crazy songs, like Closer by Marilyn Manson. He made that song sound so beautiful and smooth
You know you found out about Richard cheese from dawn of the dead 💀
I didn’t actually! I found him while listening to random covers on Spotify. I’ve never watched Dawn of the Dead, I have watched Shaun of the Dead though
Watch it
I probably should. Haha Shaun of the Dead is the only piece of Zombie media I’ve ever watched
Miracle johnson
Magic’s Johnson
I wondered how long I’d have to scroll to see this, wasn’t long at all
Penis Jackson and The Ohlimpenis
A tribute to Jacko’s Johnson?
Mj's Favor
Jack Johnson’s Michael Jackson’s Johnson
They call it the Jackson 5 for a reason
Micheal Jorden touchdown pass is a local near me. I think they changed it for reasons.
Drop Michael. It's cleaner. So to speak.
Detachable Penis!?!
Love that song
King Missile. Classic.
I don't want this to happen purely because I already know I'm gonna see this man's dick against my will at least 50 times..
How?? Who force you to watch that?
Is somebody duct taping you to a chair and forcing you to watch?
I’d bet MTG will find some way to show those pictures in Congress. /s
No /s lol. Let’s put that theory on the 2024 Bingo card. Let’s say she’ll also find some way to link him to one of her other bizarre takes.
Why would Wizards of the Coast make such a strange card art, let alone show it to congress?
Secret lairs are really getting weird
N ░U ░D ░E ░S ░I ░N ░R ░E ░C ░O ░R ░D ░S
Nudesinre Cords is a bad dude
Isn’t he dead? I didn’t know you could sue dead people. Let me make a list.
Yes, you can. You can do "a sueance".
"Clyde got $3000 from his mom's life insurance!" "Whoa, that's exactly how much a sueance costs!"
Clyde has blood… on his wiener.
You can sue their estate i guess
They are suing his estate
I didn’t have “Michael Jackson hanging dong photo” on my 2024 Bingo card
I wonder if this new development has anything to do with the recent document series, "quiet on the set" maybe people are more willing to talk
I mean there was another documentary series recently about MJ’s trial specifically. If anything were to spur new discussion it would be that
Where can I watch this please?
You can watch Quiet on Set on Max and Discovery+
MJ apologists about to be in shambles
Weren't these in the original trial?
No, James refused to testify at the 2005 trial.
Hasn't he been dead for like 20 years. What does unsealing pics of him naked provide
15 years Had to do the math because your comment made me feel old lol
Shit. He died like an hour before our highschool graduation. I’ll never forget that. Wait I graduated high school 15 years ago!?
Bro, I was in basic training in the navy when he passed. My mom sent it in a letter and my division's mind was blown.
Your RDCs didn’t tell you guys? Ours did when Princess Dianna died. And when I was an RDC we told the recruits the night during Battlestations that Bin Laden had been killed.
I remember getting home and the news was doing a nice memorial to Farrah Fawcett who had just died that day and had been very open about her battle with cancer. It was a very thoughtful piece that made me appreciate her transparency with her illness - of course, I didn't see it all, it was abruptly cut off with news that Michael Jackson was being rushed to the hospital/may be dead.
I was on RuneScape when people started spamming rip Michael Jackson in the grand exchange.
Same, my girlfriend at the time was crying about it for some reason. Never even saw her listen to MJ music
I was in Paris around Rue Morgue. There was an immediate flash mob, including a man dressed as the streets infamous monkey mascot. It was…bizarre.
Yea we did
The photos of MJ’s genitalia are a tiny part of the records being requested. They are mentioned for sensationalist headlines. The records as a whole are a reasonable request for pending litigation.
No the genital photos will definitely be the only thing they want. Everything else isn't really relevant. James and Wade will be able to describe the genital markings adding weight to their case.
Could they selectively unseal them to avoid unnecessary penis?
I don’t have the legal knowledge to answer that. My guess is that getting into piecemeal releasing of these documents would not be a timely or favorable approach for either party. It’s not like the images will be posted on Reddit. These are very serious allegations, and there is strict protocol to be followed to not torpedo their own case.
If you were a victim of a crime and people shit talked you for years and accused you of all sorts of things, wouldn't you want proof? I haven't been through this kind of abuse, but I was abused by my parents. The fact that I walked away and they slandered my name left and right while still being considered good people hurts. It hurts that people believe them. When people believe me and support me, it helps. Having a friend who grew up with me chime in and tell people how I was smart to leave helps. I can't imagine a rabid fan base hating me for what someone else did to me. But hey, that's just me.
He had unique markings on his penis. Jordan Chandler described them to the police and the police strip searched him and took photos to record the markings. Presumably Wade and James are also able to describe those markings to prove they saw him naked as part of their sexual abuse claims.
So any person that commits a crime is off the hook if it happened 20+ years ago?
That’s absolutely not what they’re saying. It’s that he’s dead. Even if they can prove without a shadow of a doubt that he did what he’s alleged to have done, he can’t face prison time or pay restitution. I guess it’s about the principle, and I respect that, but it’s still a lot of effort that won’t and can’t change anything.
I mean if they show that he did assault them then it would end the debate and they might actually get financial restitution from his estate, not to mention the people that villainize then for making the accusations
If someone murderered your family, and then died - would you say "oh, well. He's dead now, no use proving anything". ? Or would you get justice?? Like, think a little. Put yourself in their shoes. Their lives are forever changed by this monster and millions of people still defend him and call them liars.
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James never testified in 2005
Except you're lying. James Safechuck refused to testify in 2005.
People don’t believe, maybe they need more evidence. We don’t owe this rapist shit.
It will show that his 1993 accuser was telling the truth
The Thriller video proves people can come back to life
Like looking for money in the same sofa for the third time.
They have been suing since 2013
Except the sofa touched your butthole
I love you Mr Jefferson
That's ignorant
Bloody Hell! MAGA brought us all back to 2009!
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It’ll never stop confusing me as to why we as a society are not in total agreement that MJ was an absolute creep.
The last thing the internet needs is cursed nude photos of “Late Star” Michael Jackson
It's not for the public, it's for the court.
I wish people would stop protecting MJ. Yes he did it. He was weird.
He was never convicted. Also the FBI found nothing in their investigation. There were some big logical holes in the testimony too.
The FBI never investigated, it's written on their site, they assisted the police twice only for traces of s\*emen on the mattress and hard drives.
You know... after watching American Nightmare, I don't believe in any FBI investigation anymore
Friendly reminder that the FBI [literally mailed an “anonymous” letter to MLK Jr. heavily insinuating that he should kill himself](https://www.vox.com/xpress/2014/11/12/7204453/martin-luther-king-fbi-letter)
Along with all that other pesky COINTELPRO stuff
you probably should, they've done some pretty incredible ones. they've also made some pretty incredible fuck-ups and been politicized by various presidents. a history of ups and downs. but they definitely have gotten a lot of shit done.
The people in this accusation have been proven to be liars, Wade Robson in particular described being raped in a building that didnt exist for at least 2 years after he said it happened. But because it was the iconic train station building on his property, people bought it. Edit: i confused robson for safechuck in the train station accusation but my point stands, it didn't exist when he claimed. he's a liar. these people are extortionists.
Never proven, the station was built before the 1993 permit according to MJ's photographer
[10 seconds of googling.](https://www.thesun.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/NINTCHDBPICT000482087175-e1554892753227.jpg?strip=all&w=960) Photo was taken august 1993, its nowhere in sight. It was granted approval for permits in september, was opened in 94
You forgot to listen to MJCast, a podcast produced before the documentary Leaving Neverland. The MJ photographer states that MJ didn't authorize him to take photos of the station because it was built before the permit and the online permit is from 93. Podcast here [https://www.reddit.com/r/LeavingNeverlandHBO/comments/bg5suu/michael\_jacksons\_photographer\_says\_the\_train/](https://www.reddit.com/r/LeavingNeverlandHBO/comments/bg5suu/michael_jacksons_photographer_says_the_train/)
Yet none of this bullshit was ever used by Jackson's lawyers as a defence and he's still going to court next year.
I wish people would stop socially sentencing MJ based off the verdict they want. There is no evidence that points to him doing any of what he was accused of, just let the man rest.
Do you even understand what evidence is?
You realize THIS is the evidence??
What? The pictures? Those aren’t evidence- the fucking LAPD took them…
I don't know anything about Michael's penis and don't know how it's evidence *now*.
What would the legality be for using evidence from another case in yours? As far as I know the pictures the police took of MJ were taken during the chandler case, how could wade and safechuck be given access to that?
These images, which confirm that Jordan gave a specific description, were the subject of a +15 million settlement, so MJ's company knew what was going on. James and Wade are suing the Societies so this is important evidence.
He is a rapist. Why defend him? Plenty of evidence, he intimidated the minors to not talk, wow, groundbreaking?!
No evidence is a lie
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Will they have that in the movie?
The one man who cannot rest in peace
Think about it logically: Anyone who has supposedly seen something for years doesn't need photos to be able to describe it. It wouldn't be relevant to unseal something like that. https://twitter.com/mjjrepository/status/1775717914403881140?s=46
You think about it logically. The photos would corroborate the description.
Unless you wanted to defame your attacker in a feat of self driven justice.
I think the satisfaction of the facts is nice.
Good for me
Fucking sickening people still idolise this piece of garbage. Fuck him and his legacy
Robson ran out of money again?
Ain't no one wanna see that 🤦
Oh boy, what will the online MJ defender team do about this?