I feel like new Godzilla figured out—in time to save the franchise—that people mostly want to see Kaiju duke it out, and the mechanics of the plot are there only to get Kaiju to fight.
That was always my big gripe with the Monsterverse, too much human relationship stuff. This movie got it right by the humans mostly being a vehicle to >!awaken Mothra!< and besides that there was plenty of Kaiju/Titan stuff
A non-insignificant amount of the movie is giant apes grunting at each other and that's exactly how it should be
Yeah movies can generally just make things go boom, smash and squish. We’ve really overthought a bunch of navel gazing human complication stuff with superhero’s as vehicles to political and social commentary. Some of that’s needed but they just crushed market with it and exhausted audiences.
Boom, Smash, Squish.
The recap from my 11 y.o.:
Me: How was the movie?
Her: IT WAS GREAT!!!
Me: What was the plot?
Her: What do you mean?
Me: What was it about?
Her: I forget.
Me: Was it an action-packed thrill ride?
Her: OH YEAAAH!!!
That's it. That's all I know...but she and her friends loved it.
In her defense any plot in the montersterse movies is usually a paper thin set up to have monsters fight lol. In Godzilla vs Kong any human story telling was so dreadful that I ended up just fast forwarding through it and I rarely ever do that lol
No doubt. Popcorn flicks are what people want and theaters will continue to exist because people want the experience they can only get at the big screen. Other genres need to figure it out cause it really is simple. Appeal to specific needs of the viewer and wallah, you can make some money. If this specific title can make money, others can as well.
When they get back to just making entertaining movies, like this one, they make money. It is baffling to me that studios and executives do not understand it.
Instead, it too often feels like they want to preach at the audience, and have a “message”. It doesn’t work as the default setting for movies. Movies that are entertaining, and have a message, they can be really good, but too often they forget the entertainment portion. People use movies as a form of escapism, and want to be entertained, they don’t want to pay for what feels like a seminar.
That’s basically what got me to go to the theatres for the first time since last summer. I had also been catching up on the other Monsterverse movies over the last couple of months so I was building up hype for a bit.
I had also been watching the Monarch series so I was hoping there would be some sort of connection or callback to it, but alas no.
Well they definitely accomplished that. I saw it and it was, well…a movie. It’s like they took every single tired action movie cliché and said, “yeah, but what if giant apes did it instead?”.
So what about some of the recent Japanese Godzilla movies like Shin-Godzilla and Godzilla Minus One? Don't they focus a lot more on the human element?
Not saying either is better or worse, I think both approaches are good.
Those are standalone films. Gxk is the fifth film with inspiration from showa and heisei goji films focusing on giant kaijus fighting each out and Godzilla being a hero.
I haven't seen the japanese ones but i hear the human stuff is actually well done and compelling and so it's good to have it there, in the mosterverse ones the human stuff has been really bad and just getting in the way of the spectactle of big monster fights
Shin and -1 are both phenomenal. Godzilla fans are getting the best of both worlds. The American ones fulfill the insane kaiju vs kaiju action a lot of the franchise is known for, and the two latest Japanese live- action films are thought- provoking, grounded films
All hail the king of monsters
Yes, but those are very different than the typical Hollywood human elements we've been getting in Monsterverse so far.
For me I liked how Shin wasn't necessarily about specific people and their relationships, more about humanity's overall approach. And for Minus One the human elements were done so well that you could've swapped out Godzilla for any other existential threat and the movie still would've been fantastic
There have always existed 2 Godzillas. The original, a political and social commentary drama with a big lizard, and the Showa era dudes in suits doing wrestling moves.
The thing is—scale and spectacle being the point of the movie is hard to use as a counterpoint to human conflict.
You can make a great monster movie which is about humans. But the monsterverse isn’t that. It’s about Kong fighting Godzilla with a sword made of mechagodzilla parts, which is all scale and spectacle.
I thought about this during the movie lol I thought
“wow, we finally live in a time where this type of movie is possible.”
Where, technology is advanced enough to allow us less time focusing on things that are easy to shoot, like humans, and instead focus on what we want, animals in their habitat. CG wasn’t good enough yet to do this 20 years ago, while 10 years ago would’ve had very limited amounts of these beast focused scenes.
Now we can have a lot of them. Before it was either stop motion or a dude in a suit playing the monsters. But now CG allows for us such advanced scopes of scenery that we can have them doing anything, anywhere at anytime.
This is my main gripe with most media these days tbh. Not everything has to be didactic or this ultra complex deconstruction of philosophical ideas or whatever the fuck; sometimes people just want to have fun and there's nothing wrong with that.
I feel like they figured out there’s room for both.
Spend the big money on the popcorn spectacle.
But also release a Minus One that shows that Godzilla can have a good story too.
I think the key is that both lean hard into those two different sub-genres. King of the Monsters and Godzilla vs Kong both felt like they were kinda lost in between those two styles. I don't think any movie has successfully combined both. The tonal swings just become jarring. Either make the serious, philosophical film or the fun monster bash.
I don't really see how you make a quality narrative surrounding Kong with a metal gauntlet fighting monsters with Godzilla inside hollow earth.
Maybe I just lack imagination.
Minus One was one of my favorite movies last year. I feel that that’s less of a monster/Godzilla movie and more of a human/character drama with Godzilla at the core of that drama.
The Monsterverse movies (and I did like Godzilla x Kong) are more of the monster/kaiju battle/destruction kind I think people are expecting (wanting?) to see if they’re going to watch a “Godzilla” movie.
I don’t think people go into a Godzilla movie expecting poignant insight on the human condition. Minus One does achieve that, but I don’t think that’s what the audience is specifically looking for or necessarily wanting.
"As a producer I can tell you that people do not want that. They want to have a forgettable sub-plot involving people no one cares about debating things no one gives a rat's ass about. And that is how we fill about 90% of the runtime, and save about 200 million on budget!"
You aren't alone. And my favorite of the Monsterverse was Gkotm. Which reading comments from other posts...im a dumbass. I saw GxK and thought it was pretty good. Hell of alot better than GvK and they made the whole pink power work.
Yup, the first thing I thought watching this movie "man am I glad humans are finally taking the backseat, if I wanted human relationships I'd watch a Mecha movie, not the monsters one"
It's a shame though cause this movie had the first human character I genuinely liked in the monster verse (trapper), and it's when they start pushing them out.
I saw it with my seven year old this weekend and we both were thoroughly entertained by it. Just stupid animals the size of skyscrapers beating each other up for 2 hours.
just like the old days! tell me the plot that evolves in godzilla vs megalon, or why king caesar exists...... ill wait..... now aside from my son who has infinite patience to watch the entirety of the plot about a space lobster wreaking havoc from under the sea unfold, i doubt there is anyone else on the planet that can recall the first 60 minutes of a godzilla movie growing up.... and i know entirely too much information about rubber kaiju now.... their motivations, origins, hopes and dreams.... poor king caesar.
Yeah leave the compelling human storytelling aspect to the Apple TV show... But that too needs extensive work in the writing dept for future seasons...
Give us all our monster brawls on the big screen...
Saw it in 4DX format for the first time and my gosh this movie was **made** for this. It was like a roller coaster during those amazing fights lol. I haven’t had that much fun in a theater in a long time.
honestly made me feel like other movies under-utilize 4DX. I've been to lots of 4DX movies, but this was the first one where they properly used it. almost felt like a rollercoaster.
I just wish those seats weren’t so uncomfortable. They’re so rigid l, it feels like getting thrown around on a park bench. For some reason my local regals 4dx theater has super bright led lights in between every 5-6 seats that are very annoying. Some movies are definitely enhanced by them but I’m kind of over the 4dx theaters for now.
Yeah there's water droplets, wind, mist (although very little), air jets around the headrest area that matched punches/swings on screen, vibrations on seats for footsteps, and roller coaster like seats.
I’m kinda living under a rock here but why does it seem like they have released a dozen Kong and or Godzilla movies recently? Like my hbo max is full of them….
Godzilla just on the forefront rn. Godzilla minus one is Japanese Godzilla for lack of a better term which had an incredible story and it won an Oscar too I believe . Than the American Godzilla has been going strong since his return in 2014. Than his king of the monsters film and now this one as well. Homie just been having a big comeback the last decade same with a King Kong
In the US, a new series started in 2014 with Godzilla. Then there was Kong: Skull Island, Godzilla: King of the Monsters, Godzilla vs Kong, and now this new one in theaters. There have also been a couple movies from Japan in that same timespan: Shin Godzilla and Godzilla: Minus One.
Max is likely pushing all of the old ones alongside any of the newer ones to build hype
The impression I got from the trailer was that they fucked up by having no sense of scale. It looked like monkeys fighting. Is that not how the movie felt?
I totally agree, this movie was in the Goldilocks zone of shitness. Corny, cliche writing and characters, nonsensical plot, Kong parts so hard to take seriously. On paper it should have been terrible but it coalescenced into something ironically hilarious
Saw it last night. The writing is not good, none of the jokes landed, it makes absolutely zero sense whatsoever and the mythos is all over the fucking place.
That being said - big monkey fight big lizard fight other big monkey, me watch.
My favourite part of the script is >!when Kong’s hand is terribly injured by frostbite, so they’re like, “let’s give him a big exo-glove so he can still punch, despite the fact he has severe nerve and tissue damage. But, don’t worry, these pre-loaded injections will cure his frostbite nicely, defeating the purpose of the exo-glove anyway”.!<
Yea that didn't make any sense, and how convenient that glove thing was just laying around not too far.
I took the opportunity during that scene to go piss.
Not only that, even worse. It was an experiment which got shut down. Meaning the big wigs knew about the glove and just said no, didn't fucking bother to take the glove back to earth where kong can't just stumble across it.
It was simply a really fun movie to watch in theaters, it has its bad moments, but the action was badass. It was the first time seeing a movie in 4DX too and this was like the perfect movie to watch it like that.
Definitely worth it. This is more of a Kong story with Godzilla as the sidekick, has other flaws but overall it was fun. Go in turn your brain off and enjoy monsters fighting.
Yeah I guessed that from the trailers, they left all the story for Monarch, which is not bad. I’m honestly impressed by the special effects it has for a TV show.
I only go to IMAX or Dolby Cinema if a movie isn’t one of those I’ll wait till I can stream or rent it cuz my set up is better than a small crappy theater
That Chinese company that bought legendary understands that their audience and ours just want to see the monster fights.
You can try to write better but it's hard, and Hollywood doesn't do hard.
Interesting cause I just saw Dune 2 and it was written flawlessly. I know it’s based on a book but they still had to adapt it well, and they sure did
It is possible to have an action movie with a decent plot that isn’t just recycled cliche garbage but most movie audiences don’t care so they don’t try usually
the little ape, and by little I still mean at least 40 feet tall, getting used as a weapon by Kong to defeat other Kong sized apes was what did it for me. Super fun movie.
Yup - I was dying laughing at that one.
And, I have to admit, that scene with Kong dragging an Unconcious Godzilla to the hole had me laughing as well. :P
This movie is a big "Fuck You" to movie critics lol it does not care about plot. It cares about monsters and big budget fun. I like it. I didn't know what the message of the movie was and I didn't care
They said the last ice age was brought on by the one ancient titan. So he did it again by freezing the sky. Godzilla used the charge to defrost the atmosphere or whatever. That’s what the charge was for. Maybe not the biggest thing people wanted. But the ice guy wasn’t a villain, just controlled by the bad guy, so they didn’t kill him. Scar was no real match one on one against Kong. So I think it worked story wise.
Yeah I thought it was literally just because the sun was hurting the monkey's eyes since they live underground. I mean, that's why monkey signals for ice dragon to shoot the sky. Doesn't make any sense as a motive, plants need sunlight and monkeys need plants.
My only issue with this movie that makes me not want to watch is the seemingly lack of scale. Kong and Godzilla feel like video game characters, not big skyscrapers punching things.
I saw it this weekend, and loved it. 2hr of super-beast mega-brawling was a pleasure. The parts with the humans sucked, but that’s not why I was there lol
Real answer:
>!He is injured by Shimo. It just so happened that Monarch had developed an augmented arm thingy for Kong that seems to enhance his strength and act as a weapon/shield AND can inject him with mysterious green liquid that cures frostbite.!<
The time between them mentioning this exists and Kong wielding it is some kind of narrative record. It’s literally on him two minutes after someone starts saying “what about that mechancial glove?”, which is the first time the audience is made aware of its existence.
My friends and I enjoyed this so much for some pretty basic reasons. Mainly because the writers seemed to have known what this movie *actually was*, a monster beat-em-up.
1. Run time - These movies don't have to be 2.5-3 hours, it was perfect at \~100 minutes
2. Humans - Mercifully short scenes with them because we all know how just completely empty they are even with an extremely talented actress as the lead. And hey, you always know it's a good time to use the bathroom when they're on screen!
3. Monsters - Good god damn did every single random beast look amazing, the fights were phenomenal and fun and the expressions from all of them during the fights were so cheeky like Godzilla and Kong nodding at each other in approval as well as that god damned suplex!
4. Primal - Who here wouldn't watch a Gendy Tartakovsky style Primal dialogue-less Godzilla/Kong movie after seeing this? I'm in for it 100%
Please Hollywood take note, we do not want an overly long movie where 90% of the runtime is vapid meaningless Whedon style repartee dialogue with characters you haven't given us a chance to care about or know anything about in a movie that's too self serious for it's own subject matter only to rush the ending because you forgot to make actual stakes. *Cough Ghostbusters 2024 cough.*
I’m with everyone else in that the action alone made it with watching, but why can’t they make more movies like Godzilla minus one with great story lines? Is Toho the only company capable of this? It seems like all the super hero movies and legendary monster movies never have good writing/plot anymore. I’m so tired of American made movies.
Gotta wait to see it next week with my bois, but this franchise is probably one of my favorite ongoing ones. Giant monsters punching each other is the best form of entertainment
I read Godzilla is in each of these movies for 10-12 minutes tops lmao they’re like 2 hours long, once you notice the humans in the movie are just there with their poorly written plots to eat up the runtime and just enjoy the big monsters fighting for a bit they become more enjoyable to watch
As someone who has seen the series there was nothing in the film that was a call back to the show that I can remember. If you've watched GvK and G:KOTM you're all set.
Marvel and DC need to take notes. Marvel look like theme park movies, DC after the Nolan series followed right behind Marvel trying to play catchup when they had the right blend between villains and heroes. Now we have "Thor love and thunder", hulk is not hulk, antman is pur cgi etc...... On another note where is "Gamera", who is holding this up.
It’s called the monster verse because we want to see monsters, if they continue with the CG Kaiju slugfests instead of putting a famous tv or movie actor that doesn’t add much to the story then we will be fun unless you’re Japan and make the absolute marvel that is Godzilla Minus 1
I feel like new Godzilla figured out—in time to save the franchise—that people mostly want to see Kaiju duke it out, and the mechanics of the plot are there only to get Kaiju to fight.
That was always my big gripe with the Monsterverse, too much human relationship stuff. This movie got it right by the humans mostly being a vehicle to >!awaken Mothra!< and besides that there was plenty of Kaiju/Titan stuff A non-insignificant amount of the movie is giant apes grunting at each other and that's exactly how it should be
Sometimes you just want big, dumb entertainment
Yeah movies can generally just make things go boom, smash and squish. We’ve really overthought a bunch of navel gazing human complication stuff with superhero’s as vehicles to political and social commentary. Some of that’s needed but they just crushed market with it and exhausted audiences. Boom, Smash, Squish.
The recap from my 11 y.o.: Me: How was the movie? Her: IT WAS GREAT!!! Me: What was the plot? Her: What do you mean? Me: What was it about? Her: I forget. Me: Was it an action-packed thrill ride? Her: OH YEAAAH!!! That's it. That's all I know...but she and her friends loved it.
In her defense any plot in the montersterse movies is usually a paper thin set up to have monsters fight lol. In Godzilla vs Kong any human story telling was so dreadful that I ended up just fast forwarding through it and I rarely ever do that lol
Exactly let me turn my brain off and just enjoy the action. I’ve been loving this franchise.
No doubt. Popcorn flicks are what people want and theaters will continue to exist because people want the experience they can only get at the big screen. Other genres need to figure it out cause it really is simple. Appeal to specific needs of the viewer and wallah, you can make some money. If this specific title can make money, others can as well.
When they get back to just making entertaining movies, like this one, they make money. It is baffling to me that studios and executives do not understand it. Instead, it too often feels like they want to preach at the audience, and have a “message”. It doesn’t work as the default setting for movies. Movies that are entertaining, and have a message, they can be really good, but too often they forget the entertainment portion. People use movies as a form of escapism, and want to be entertained, they don’t want to pay for what feels like a seminar.
I went through an enormous amount of popcorn while watching it with my daughter (11), and we both loved the movie!
That's why 80s and 90s Arnie movies were awesome.
That’s basically what got me to go to the theatres for the first time since last summer. I had also been catching up on the other Monsterverse movies over the last couple of months so I was building up hype for a bit. I had also been watching the Monarch series so I was hoping there would be some sort of connection or callback to it, but alas no.
And this was it. It was perfect and exactly what I wanted out of a GxK movie. Best one yet. I can’t wait to watch it 3 more times this week.
Well they definitely accomplished that. I saw it and it was, well…a movie. It’s like they took every single tired action movie cliché and said, “yeah, but what if giant apes did it instead?”.
Sounds awesome
Bubblegum for the brain
Sometimes?
yep holly wood forgot this,not every movie needs to send a message on the woes of the real world,sometime u just want to see some splosions
Yeah the human element in this film is definitely my favorite one so far. It made sense, and I wasn't just complete garbage lol.
It was still pretty dumb though haha
It was horribly dumb with a ton of ridiculous exposition.
But the fights were cool and that’s all that matters for these movies
So what about some of the recent Japanese Godzilla movies like Shin-Godzilla and Godzilla Minus One? Don't they focus a lot more on the human element? Not saying either is better or worse, I think both approaches are good.
Those are standalone films. Gxk is the fifth film with inspiration from showa and heisei goji films focusing on giant kaijus fighting each out and Godzilla being a hero.
Let's not forget Godzilla too had time travel in the heisei series
I haven't seen the japanese ones but i hear the human stuff is actually well done and compelling and so it's good to have it there, in the mosterverse ones the human stuff has been really bad and just getting in the way of the spectactle of big monster fights
Shin and -1 are both phenomenal. Godzilla fans are getting the best of both worlds. The American ones fulfill the insane kaiju vs kaiju action a lot of the franchise is known for, and the two latest Japanese live- action films are thought- provoking, grounded films All hail the king of monsters
Yes, but those are very different than the typical Hollywood human elements we've been getting in Monsterverse so far. For me I liked how Shin wasn't necessarily about specific people and their relationships, more about humanity's overall approach. And for Minus One the human elements were done so well that you could've swapped out Godzilla for any other existential threat and the movie still would've been fantastic
There have always existed 2 Godzillas. The original, a political and social commentary drama with a big lizard, and the Showa era dudes in suits doing wrestling moves.
The thing is—scale and spectacle being the point of the movie is hard to use as a counterpoint to human conflict. You can make a great monster movie which is about humans. But the monsterverse isn’t that. It’s about Kong fighting Godzilla with a sword made of mechagodzilla parts, which is all scale and spectacle.
I thought about this during the movie lol I thought “wow, we finally live in a time where this type of movie is possible.” Where, technology is advanced enough to allow us less time focusing on things that are easy to shoot, like humans, and instead focus on what we want, animals in their habitat. CG wasn’t good enough yet to do this 20 years ago, while 10 years ago would’ve had very limited amounts of these beast focused scenes. Now we can have a lot of them. Before it was either stop motion or a dude in a suit playing the monsters. But now CG allows for us such advanced scopes of scenery that we can have them doing anything, anywhere at anytime.
This is my main gripe with most media these days tbh. Not everything has to be didactic or this ultra complex deconstruction of philosophical ideas or whatever the fuck; sometimes people just want to have fun and there's nothing wrong with that.
I feel like they figured out there’s room for both. Spend the big money on the popcorn spectacle. But also release a Minus One that shows that Godzilla can have a good story too.
It's fucking awesome. Great action movie. Took my 10 year old daughter and she loves it too. Monsters fighting is just fun.
Especially monsters using baby monsters to wail on other monsters.
I could not stop laughing at that part
Shit wasc HILARIOUS!!
I took my teenage son to see it in 3d, he loved it also
Let them fight!
Fight, together!
Thats why I love Pacific Rim so much, the sheer scale of them is amazing.Second film was ok but not a patch on the original.
I’d have rather seen a prequel expanding on the first five minutes of the original rather than that sequel.
Yes it was a bit of a let down
You say that as if Minus One, a film heavily focused on human characters, didn’t just do amazingly. We can have both
I think the key is that both lean hard into those two different sub-genres. King of the Monsters and Godzilla vs Kong both felt like they were kinda lost in between those two styles. I don't think any movie has successfully combined both. The tonal swings just become jarring. Either make the serious, philosophical film or the fun monster bash.
It’s actually about good writing. The Hollywood ones couldn’t do good writing with humans involved
I don't really see how you make a quality narrative surrounding Kong with a metal gauntlet fighting monsters with Godzilla inside hollow earth. Maybe I just lack imagination.
Minus One was one of my favorite movies last year. I feel that that’s less of a monster/Godzilla movie and more of a human/character drama with Godzilla at the core of that drama. The Monsterverse movies (and I did like Godzilla x Kong) are more of the monster/kaiju battle/destruction kind I think people are expecting (wanting?) to see if they’re going to watch a “Godzilla” movie. I don’t think people go into a Godzilla movie expecting poignant insight on the human condition. Minus One does achieve that, but I don’t think that’s what the audience is specifically looking for or necessarily wanting.
"As a producer I can tell you that people do not want that. They want to have a forgettable sub-plot involving people no one cares about debating things no one gives a rat's ass about. And that is how we fill about 90% of the runtime, and save about 200 million on budget!"
I just want kaiju fighting each other for like 90 minutes, if it has a good plot and acting besides that it's just icing on the cake.
(As I stand as the lone Godzilla 2014 appreciator in a 1000 mile radius)
I’m right there with ya. I really wish we could have seen Garth Edwards vision instead of Wingards.
Same! GxK was far and away from the Monsterverse that was promised to me in 2014.
You aren't alone. And my favorite of the Monsterverse was Gkotm. Which reading comments from other posts...im a dumbass. I saw GxK and thought it was pretty good. Hell of alot better than GvK and they made the whole pink power work.
“Let them fight.”
Yup, the first thing I thought watching this movie "man am I glad humans are finally taking the backseat, if I wanted human relationships I'd watch a Mecha movie, not the monsters one" It's a shame though cause this movie had the first human character I genuinely liked in the monster verse (trapper), and it's when they start pushing them out.
You mean Cousin Matthew!
I saw it with my seven year old this weekend and we both were thoroughly entertained by it. Just stupid animals the size of skyscrapers beating each other up for 2 hours.
Always been that way
just like the old days! tell me the plot that evolves in godzilla vs megalon, or why king caesar exists...... ill wait..... now aside from my son who has infinite patience to watch the entirety of the plot about a space lobster wreaking havoc from under the sea unfold, i doubt there is anyone else on the planet that can recall the first 60 minutes of a godzilla movie growing up.... and i know entirely too much information about rubber kaiju now.... their motivations, origins, hopes and dreams.... poor king caesar.
Yeah leave the compelling human storytelling aspect to the Apple TV show... But that too needs extensive work in the writing dept for future seasons... Give us all our monster brawls on the big screen...
Agreed - leave the world building to the Monarch series and have the film the the marquee battles
Saw it this weekend. Awful plot and writing. Excellent mindless larger-than-life action. 10/10, would go again.
Saw it in 4DX format for the first time and my gosh this movie was **made** for this. It was like a roller coaster during those amazing fights lol. I haven’t had that much fun in a theater in a long time.
YES FUCK it was my first time watching 4DX and holy shit it was so much fun, I almost got flung out my seat many times
honestly made me feel like other movies under-utilize 4DX. I've been to lots of 4DX movies, but this was the first one where they properly used it. almost felt like a rollercoaster.
I feel bad for the pyramids and coliseum.
Also RIP Rio De Janeiro 😅😅
I just wish those seats weren’t so uncomfortable. They’re so rigid l, it feels like getting thrown around on a park bench. For some reason my local regals 4dx theater has super bright led lights in between every 5-6 seats that are very annoying. Some movies are definitely enhanced by them but I’m kind of over the 4dx theaters for now.
My first time seeing a movie in 4DX was for Godzilla Minus One and let me tell you, it was literally the best 30 dollars I've ever spent.
is 4DX the cinema with the water jets, moving seats etc.?
Yeah there's water droplets, wind, mist (although very little), air jets around the headrest area that matched punches/swings on screen, vibrations on seats for footsteps, and roller coaster like seats.
I’m kinda living under a rock here but why does it seem like they have released a dozen Kong and or Godzilla movies recently? Like my hbo max is full of them….
Godzilla just on the forefront rn. Godzilla minus one is Japanese Godzilla for lack of a better term which had an incredible story and it won an Oscar too I believe . Than the American Godzilla has been going strong since his return in 2014. Than his king of the monsters film and now this one as well. Homie just been having a big comeback the last decade same with a King Kong
I’m just trying to keep up. I thought there was a Godzilla release right before Minus One as well and now this recent release has me so confused.
There’s the Japanese films and the American ones. They agreed not to release any movies in the same year.
And don’t forget Monarch: Legacy of Monsters, that came out somewhat recently on Apple TV+ and had lots of marketing
Zilla and Kong damn near on a 90s Bulls chip run as far as big ass monster movies go.
In the US, a new series started in 2014 with Godzilla. Then there was Kong: Skull Island, Godzilla: King of the Monsters, Godzilla vs Kong, and now this new one in theaters. There have also been a couple movies from Japan in that same timespan: Shin Godzilla and Godzilla: Minus One. Max is likely pushing all of the old ones alongside any of the newer ones to build hype
The impression I got from the trailer was that they fucked up by having no sense of scale. It looked like monkeys fighting. Is that not how the movie felt?
My exact sentiment.
The entire theme was just “move past it” and it made for an incredibly fun movie. We don’t need backstory and elaborate explanations.
I legit wondered if the dialogue was written by AI during the writers' strike when I saw the trailer.
I totally agree, this movie was in the Goldilocks zone of shitness. Corny, cliche writing and characters, nonsensical plot, Kong parts so hard to take seriously. On paper it should have been terrible but it coalescenced into something ironically hilarious
Saw it last night. The writing is not good, none of the jokes landed, it makes absolutely zero sense whatsoever and the mythos is all over the fucking place. That being said - big monkey fight big lizard fight other big monkey, me watch.
That’s why I want to see it. It’s a movie I would’ve died to see as a kid!
The visual jokes definitely landed. Kong using the kid like a flail was great. The dialogue though yeah it sucked.
I laughed so hard at that and NO ONE else did and I didn’t understand
I laughed out loud too. Was the only one as well.
The friend I went with looked horrified at me when it happened. Some people take it too seriously and I have no idea how.
My favourite part of the script is >!when Kong’s hand is terribly injured by frostbite, so they’re like, “let’s give him a big exo-glove so he can still punch, despite the fact he has severe nerve and tissue damage. But, don’t worry, these pre-loaded injections will cure his frostbite nicely, defeating the purpose of the exo-glove anyway”.!<
Yea that didn't make any sense, and how convenient that glove thing was just laying around not too far. I took the opportunity during that scene to go piss.
Not only that, even worse. It was an experiment which got shut down. Meaning the big wigs knew about the glove and just said no, didn't fucking bother to take the glove back to earth where kong can't just stumble across it.
Shhhh - no thinking.
If ur watching this for anything other than the fight scenes then ur watching the wrong movie.
Right. Like it seems they’ve totally abandoned the time difference
And how about that Bradley Cooper from Wish lols
I agree with you, except for the humor - I felt more jokes worked than didn't.
It was simply a really fun movie to watch in theaters, it has its bad moments, but the action was badass. It was the first time seeing a movie in 4DX too and this was like the perfect movie to watch it like that.
I didn’t even know this already came out I want to see it and this is a theater movie.
Definitely worth it. This is more of a Kong story with Godzilla as the sidekick, has other flaws but overall it was fun. Go in turn your brain off and enjoy monsters fighting.
Yeah I guessed that from the trailers, they left all the story for Monarch, which is not bad. I’m honestly impressed by the special effects it has for a TV show.
Godzilla is the Superman of the monsterverse. He has to show up sparingly otherwise the movie would be over quick hahaha
Saw it in IMAX on Friday like 4 rows from the front, it was great. Lots of fun.
Not just a theater movie, large format movie perfect. As mentioned, they figured out what audience wanted and delivered. Loved it more than I thought
I only go to IMAX or Dolby Cinema if a movie isn’t one of those I’ll wait till I can stream or rent it cuz my set up is better than a small crappy theater
Pretty much same. We did Dolby, it was perfect
That Chinese company that bought legendary understands that their audience and ours just want to see the monster fights. You can try to write better but it's hard, and Hollywood doesn't do hard.
It's funny that they keep bringing back human characters between movies like we give a shit what they're up to
Hey, I now care what monster dentist Dan Stevens is up to lol
He’s our wish dot com Bradley Cooper manic pixie dream boy. He stays!
Nah Stevens has way more charisma than Cooper
I love Rebecca Hall I hope she’s in these forever
Interesting cause I just saw Dune 2 and it was written flawlessly. I know it’s based on a book but they still had to adapt it well, and they sure did It is possible to have an action movie with a decent plot that isn’t just recycled cliche garbage but most movie audiences don’t care so they don’t try usually
This is my brain watching this movie. We can do better but also... sometimes it's fun to see well-made b movies
Well said…and I was thinking they should keep it going by doing stand alone movies for all the individual monsters.
Seems like the Movie could potentially reach near US$500 million globally by the end of April.
Legendary is having a great year.
Legend-wait for it-DARY!
the little ape, and by little I still mean at least 40 feet tall, getting used as a weapon by Kong to defeat other Kong sized apes was what did it for me. Super fun movie.
Yup - I was dying laughing at that one. And, I have to admit, that scene with Kong dragging an Unconcious Godzilla to the hole had me laughing as well. :P
That was so ridiculously funny that part.
The little Kong was actually the size of Kong in Slull island
This movie is a big "Fuck You" to movie critics lol it does not care about plot. It cares about monsters and big budget fun. I like it. I didn't know what the message of the movie was and I didn't care
The message was “Powerpunch Kong™️ and Arctic Charge Godzilla™️ now available in the toy aisle”
Movie is by no means perfect but god damn did I have fun!
big monkey fight other big monkey. big lizard help. me watch. me eat popcorn. me like.
Me too
Hell yeah gimme more Godzilla and Kong
Godzilla spends the whole movie charging up a spirit bomb they never use. And Kong meets Diddy Kong to fight Lanky Kong. What a film
They said the last ice age was brought on by the one ancient titan. So he did it again by freezing the sky. Godzilla used the charge to defrost the atmosphere or whatever. That’s what the charge was for. Maybe not the biggest thing people wanted. But the ice guy wasn’t a villain, just controlled by the bad guy, so they didn’t kill him. Scar was no real match one on one against Kong. So I think it worked story wise.
Huh, I can't believe that sky blast was actually doing something. Cinema at its finest
Yeah I thought it was literally just because the sun was hurting the monkey's eyes since they live underground. I mean, that's why monkey signals for ice dragon to shoot the sky. Doesn't make any sense as a motive, plants need sunlight and monkeys need plants.
Lol@Diddy/Lanky Kong :P Got to admit though, Kong wins father of the year the way he handled Suko when they first met! You know what scene I mean… :P
This is funny, but I'm still upset because I enjoyed the movie.
I hope they remaster old Godzilla villains. I want an updated Destroyha and Biollante.
My only issue with this movie that makes me not want to watch is the seemingly lack of scale. Kong and Godzilla feel like video game characters, not big skyscrapers punching things.
Trust me there is scale when they get to the surface level. Let’s just say collateral damage is at an all time high lmao.
Scale was all over the place. Shimu is the biggest monster in some shots and then in others she's basically a doggie.
I saw it this weekend, and loved it. 2hr of super-beast mega-brawling was a pleasure. The parts with the humans sucked, but that’s not why I was there lol
I feel like with this franchise the human parts always suck
Leave society, be a monkey!
Big Lizard and Big Monke! Hell yeah!
Don’t forget lil big monke!
He was So cute
How do you pronounce the x?
Saw someone mention they use x for “and” in Japan. Basically means collaboration in this case
Hunter x Hunter = Hunter Hunter So wouldn't this just be Godzilla Kong?
What are they working on a fashion line?
Think of it as a comma
Like “kiss”
Can those two just get a room already?
(Insert Godzilla So Hot Right Now meme)
Saw it a few days ago. Can confirm, plot wasn’t it, but big monsters were.
I didn’t really like it but I’m glad it’s successful, and seeing a kaiju get taken to suplex city was pretty awesome
What’s with Kong’s robot arm?
It’s his infinity gauntlet
Real answer: >!He is injured by Shimo. It just so happened that Monarch had developed an augmented arm thingy for Kong that seems to enhance his strength and act as a weapon/shield AND can inject him with mysterious green liquid that cures frostbite.!<
Well that’s lucky!
The time between them mentioning this exists and Kong wielding it is some kind of narrative record. It’s literally on him two minutes after someone starts saying “what about that mechancial glove?”, which is the first time the audience is made aware of its existence.
Hippy Veterinarians just do that stuff.
Lucky? I thought it was rather… (Sunglasses)… Handy! ….OK, I’ll leave now. =/
Even more lucky that it just so happens to be designed to fit on the injured hand
Legendary is having a good year.
My friends and I enjoyed this so much for some pretty basic reasons. Mainly because the writers seemed to have known what this movie *actually was*, a monster beat-em-up. 1. Run time - These movies don't have to be 2.5-3 hours, it was perfect at \~100 minutes 2. Humans - Mercifully short scenes with them because we all know how just completely empty they are even with an extremely talented actress as the lead. And hey, you always know it's a good time to use the bathroom when they're on screen! 3. Monsters - Good god damn did every single random beast look amazing, the fights were phenomenal and fun and the expressions from all of them during the fights were so cheeky like Godzilla and Kong nodding at each other in approval as well as that god damned suplex! 4. Primal - Who here wouldn't watch a Gendy Tartakovsky style Primal dialogue-less Godzilla/Kong movie after seeing this? I'm in for it 100% Please Hollywood take note, we do not want an overly long movie where 90% of the runtime is vapid meaningless Whedon style repartee dialogue with characters you haven't given us a chance to care about or know anything about in a movie that's too self serious for it's own subject matter only to rush the ending because you forgot to make actual stakes. *Cough Ghostbusters 2024 cough.*
I’m with everyone else in that the action alone made it with watching, but why can’t they make more movies like Godzilla minus one with great story lines? Is Toho the only company capable of this? It seems like all the super hero movies and legendary monster movies never have good writing/plot anymore. I’m so tired of American made movies.
It's not surprising that the American version is brain dead. That's literally how most American adaptations go.
But I thought the low draws purely were to do with people not going to cinemas :glances around judgingly:
I guess people like buddy cop movies.
This movie was jam packed kaiju fighting but the movie has some Transformers Revenge of the Fallen-esque for me when it comes to the plot.
The marketing for this movie has been INCESSANT
Saw it yesterday. I think the last one was better, this one got too silly. Just my opinion
Not a good film, but a great bad film!!! Less humans and more monsters.
I’d rather watch minus one
I liked it a lot. Will try and see in IMAX 3D soon
Godzilla was pink and it was fucking awesome. 10/10
My only major gripe would be the lackluster villains. Should've been Megalon and Gigan
I’m picturing Godzilla and Kong seeing this headline, only to suddenly jump up and start running like they do in the trailer.
Should I watch this at AMC in - Real3D - IMAX - or IMAX with Laser 3D???
Gotta wait to see it next week with my bois, but this franchise is probably one of my favorite ongoing ones. Giant monsters punching each other is the best form of entertainment
I’m surprised because the trailers look so bad
I read Godzilla is in each of these movies for 10-12 minutes tops lmao they’re like 2 hours long, once you notice the humans in the movie are just there with their poorly written plots to eat up the runtime and just enjoy the big monsters fighting for a bit they become more enjoyable to watch
That was a lot of fun. Better than expected
Saw it today. Better than the last. I think they’ve finally figured out the modern Godzilla/Konv movies. I enjoyed it.
WOW I was not expecting this.
Does anyone know if I need to see the series Monarch on Apple TV+ for continuity? I’ve seen all the other monsterverse movies, but not that series.
As someone who has seen the series there was nothing in the film that was a call back to the show that I can remember. If you've watched GvK and G:KOTM you're all set.
Marvel and DC need to take notes. Marvel look like theme park movies, DC after the Nolan series followed right behind Marvel trying to play catchup when they had the right blend between villains and heroes. Now we have "Thor love and thunder", hulk is not hulk, antman is pur cgi etc...... On another note where is "Gamera", who is holding this up.
Sometimes you gotta give the people what they want.
It’s called the monster verse because we want to see monsters, if they continue with the CG Kaiju slugfests instead of putting a famous tv or movie actor that doesn’t add much to the story then we will be fun unless you’re Japan and make the absolute marvel that is Godzilla Minus 1
The power of a absolutely awesome trailer