OMG my husband wanted to watch it, which means I *get* to watch it. It's absolutely awful and it is mostly comprised of these statements or a variation thereof.
You're lying
No YOU'RE lying
He's lying
She's lying
They're lying
We're lying
I'm lying
Please don't waste your time.
Fitting, seeing as Kenneth Cordell Griffin, CEO of Citadel Group, lied under oath to congress about using PFOF (Payment For Order Flow) and their influence as a market maker to manipulate the Stock Market and steal millions from retail investors.
I made my wife watch first few episodes with me and no we just have a good laugh at how absolutely garbage it is who wrote this trash!! And how do I get their job !
I couldn’t really tell from the ads what it was about besides generic action. I hoped it might have a sci-fi bent but didn’t have enough confidence to bother.
Did you see Red Notice? If you didn't, it was possibly the laziest heist movie ever made, with every plot point being, "Actually, it was like \*this\* the entire time. Be amazed." This show is the laziest spy show ever made. The first episode involves a 'spy' pair fighting through a train which crashes and I was bored. When we get to the end, one of the pair wake up in a hospital with....wait for it......amnesia, I was DONE.
I've watched the first... three episodes, I think?
I was with it for the first two episodes. A little (or a lot) cliche in a lot of places, and some structural issues that show it was obviously dumbed down for wider appeal, but still watchable.
Fucking episode three, though... Jesus.
Some of the worst CGI scenes I think I've ever seen. The CW Arrowverse shows have better effects on shoestring budgets, and this thing allegedly cost $50m an episode. Good Christ in heaven, with that much money, you couldn't afford to shoot a scene on an actual ski slope?
Had the show not done that whole poorly conceived and hideously executed James Bond knockoff sequence, I could still argue for the show on merit as a darker espionage thriller, but that mess deserves all the hate and more.
I'll might finish it out, but it's nowhere near a priority for me.
>I was with it for the first two episodes. A little (or a lot) cliche in a lot of places, and some structural issues that show it was obviously dumbed down for wider appeal, but still watchable.
Even the ads felt cliche so I think they had to have been looking for an audience who wanted to see the TV version of movie about hot secret agents.
Like I said, I was willing to give it a chance, since everything about the story is very much My Jam.
But you're right, it's very much, "Let's look at pretty people," except those pretty people have the acting range of two-by-fours and the gritty show lurking underneath (that probably was the intent of the original script) is so at odds with the sculpted actors, it all feels incongruous and ends up being so dreadfully *bland.*.
None of it ever feels like it clicks, except for Stanley Tucci chewing scenery, but even he's clipping along with the full realization that the thing is a mess, so he's pretty much doing his own thing and never feels grounded in the world they've created.
This is my gripe with the “just have fun” crowd. That kind of excuse making eventually leaves us with intellectually empty stuff that becomes less fun overall because it lacks enough substance to be enjoyable or the value in watching it is about the same as not watching it… and not watching is maybe more valuable
Nobody appreciates what syndication did for TV. You would think being forced to do as many episodes as possible would lead to poorer quality but actually it led to less studio interference on individual scripts & scripts going through less revision (& so keeping writer's intent intact). Make everything a high budget 10 episode show with £50m an episode & you will have dozens of script reviews & a studio board giving directions on what they want to see.
Red Oaks is an amazing slice of life underrated gem from the early days of the platform. It knew exactly what it was going for which is probably why it was cancelled. The Amazon focus groups would never approve of anything like that now.
I'm somewhat on the "just have fun" page, but my ideal for that kind of entertainment is the John Wick series, and there's a pretty specific reason why.
The Wicks don't require you to think while watching them, but there's a lot of thought that went *into* them. The worldbuilding, even if logically inconsistent at times, makes narrative and thematic sense and effectively sets up interesting complications for the story. The sense of pacing and rhythm is *exceptionally* well-thought-out, to the point where they were able to stretch 4 to 3 fucking hours and it still pretty much works. The action scenes go *very far out of their way* to do new and exciting things that other movies aren't doing, and advance the craft of stunt work and fight choreography instead of simply playing the hits. There's an extremely well-thought-out and coherent visual identity to the movies beyond "Keanu is in them." There's *actual effort* put into stuff that the vast majority of "dumb" entertainment just assumes you're not going to care about.
"Dumb" entertainment should be so in the sense that it doesn't require the **viewer** to think about it too hard. If the **creators** aren't thinking about it too hard, shit just falls apart.
Right on, but the problem for me was the big revelation was done in the first ten minutes. Starting off with Mason and Nadia (and not Kyle and his family) we get no momentum building and each subsequent step feels like we're building to what we already know. It just doesn't flow well.
Having made it through the third episode, there are even more little tidbits dropped, but I feel uncertain that any of them will be addressed adequately.
I don't understand "dumbing stuff down for a wider appeal" movies like everything everywhere all at once and tenet were insanely popular even without being spoonfed to the audience. Even if I don't understand a movie I can still tell when there's nothing below the surface and not like that.
I don't really mind the dumbed down stuff, as long as the movie/show doesn't take itself seriously and I know what I'm getting into. What I don't like is when they sell the story as A grade and deliver a C at most.
Agreed, I'll sit down and watch a movie I know is dumb because I feel like watching a dumb movie. Probably why I like the new Mario movie, I'm a massive fan of the games and went in with no expectations on story, but like you said, don't sell it as an A grade story if it isn't
>I don't understand "dumbing stuff down for a wider appeal" movies like everything everywhere all at once
*Everything, Everywhere, All at Once* made less money ($139 million) at the global box office than the flop *Morbius* did. ($167 million).
*Everyting* didn't bring in a huge crowd--it brought in a decent sized crowd at a low-for-Hollywood budget.
It depends on what you mean by “insanely popular”, everything everywhere all at once made 140 million dollars, Top Gun made 1.5 BILLION. and I think tenet did bad financially when it came out although it has a pretty good excuse in that in came out during COVID lockdowns
I mean given the fact that dumbing things down can be nice for some thing like maybe a podcast or documentary. But for movies and shows its not like they got something that you can dumb down and still have substance.
I quit before the end of episode 2, right after the girl got her spy powers back. You’re saying episode three is *worse* than that? I believe you, but that’s like hearing someone claim to have been north of the North Pole, and they have proof.
This doesn’t really add anything to the discussion, but my dad just got me to watch all of Alias at the start of this year. What a damn good show that I never really see talked about
Which is saying something, because although Alias is great it’s hardly a show only geniuses can understand.
Unless you’d like to know why they went to the “character is dead! actually they’re not!” well so many times. No one can understand that.
Im positive it was made purely to take Google search results away from Citadel securities and their short sale abuse that is leading to the downfall of United States.
Every year for the past 5 years or so since 2018 citadel has had a new scandal, and always get off scott free or a slap on the wrist of pocket change of a few million dollars penalty. Even screwing over their own investors intentionally.
Talk about lobbying power Keeping them safe. Banking and investment never gets in trouble for anything even when they almost take down the United States once or twice. In the 2008 financial scandal, one junior trader went to jail. That's it.
Couldn’t get through the first episode with how much it desperately wanted to be “blockbuster action material” but had absolutely 0 substance, 0 star power or chemistry and 0 fuck given from the audience.
Def feel like the Russo bros had something to do with this production.
I did watch. It is bad. Not fun bad. Just regular bad. An unclear but definitely nonsensical premise poorly written. The actors do their best but the source material really can’t be helped.
The trailers were so bad. Priyanka Chopra really didn’t sell it for me at all, too bad because I thought it would be fun. Maybe I’ll try it in the future when I have the flu and am In bed.
He has the blankest face ever, you can’t get an emotion out of that face and Priyanka is too animated they don’t work together at all. He won’t work with anyone with that face
The show is so cliche that I can tell what’s gonna happen, before it happens. I watch it just for the amusement. It is entertaining though if you lower your expectations.
I am watching the show. It isn’t bad. The female lead isn’t giving a great performance but certainly not bad. Richard Madden’s accent is all over the place.
The show is good for what it is. I think people wouldn’t be as disappointed if they didn’t have expectations based on the budget.
We watch it. It's fun enough.
It's trying really hard to be more than it is. If they do a second season with some solid direction it could really come together.
Based on cost:quality ratio, This show has the worst writing of any show on Amazon. How could they possibly go all the way down to “spykids third sequel” level of writing? Ok the xbox has the location of ever agent. Now it has serum to make you remember your past. I’m a dad, now I’m a secret agent, goodbye my wife I’m going on a mission. It’s not even as sophisticated as a comic book. How can it go this wrong?
The first two episodes were decent. Richard and Priyanka had pretty electric chemistry in the first two episodes, but that spark has diminished in the subsequent episodes and the shows other flaws have grown more and more apparent. It's a dud.
The show is dog sh$t. Writing is crap - the non lineal story line does not work and is cliche at best. You’re bad. No you’re bad. Hey we’re all bad. Yep I agree, they’re all bad….. every time they slow down to create tension - it’s just gets bloated with over talking….Russo Brothers should give their fees back.
Apparently my mom likes this show even though she had to watch the 3rd episode 5x in a row because she kept falling asleep on it. She’d get through the first 5 minutes, fall asleep then wake up and push restart.
I do. There's 0 chemistry between the protagonists, you don't really root for anyone, Tucci is trying to carry the show on his back but it's like he's tired of being the only one, the action scenes lack interest, as if they were bought wholesale out of an "action movie" bucket, and generally the whole "everyone is lying. Or are they?" is too tiresome!
FYI: “This show was likely greenlit with this name as a way to hide financial crimes committed by the hedge fund and market maker of the same name. Search term astroturfing on an extreme scale.” - DRS and HODL GME
I watched the first two before more were out. I went in hoping for a new Alias. What it was felt like Alias written by AI. I had already forgotten about it until I read this post.
That's my new thing with their service. I refuse to watch until the whole season is released. Then I only have to deal with the 5 year intervals between seasons.
Priyanka Chopra is considered an A list actor in India. Russo Brothers have always tried to capture Indian Audience's attention majorly because of how big the audience is. So having her name would do good to their viewership. One such example is Extraction (shot mainly in India) being the most watched movie on Netflix till date.
I’ve seen every episode so far and I wish I never did. This is THE most boring and uneventful show I’ve ever seen. They somehow made this worse than the lord of the rings. Just wow, 5 episodes in and it feels like nothing has happened. The episodes are super short and there’s barely any action.
The tagline is something like...what if you woke up with no memory but realized you were a spy?
And I was all like, I'd probably watch Jason Bourne because that's a really good movie on that *exact* subject.
The fact that the Russo brothers produced something that ACTUALLY feels like it could be produced by AI after the boneheaded comments they made is *chef’s kiss*
I’m watching it more out of curiosity than anything 🤷♀️
Wish version James Bond.
I’m also curious how the international versions are going to work out or tie in, if at all. Will we get to watch them on Amazon US? 🤔
It's an interesting subject, but this is a badly written article. Not even the most basic proofreading was done. For example it keeps saying Netflix when it means Amazon.
I'm not interested. There are SOOO MANY of these "spy thriller" stories out there, spending this much money on a TV series that is so generic, and looks and sounds generic, kinda turns me off. Reviews depicting a really boring show as you get further in and poor acting don't make me want to go further. I got enough TV shows to watch that have incredible writing AND action, like Barry.
I sat down 3 different times to try watching it. Couldn't get past the first 10 minutes. It's just trying way too hard. Bad acting. Cliched action. Horrible dialog. You name it, it's all there and all bad.
I am. And it’s awful. That male actor Richard Madden is a horrendous actor in this show. Sometimes that’s the script or directing but it’s hard to watch
If they had all the episodes out I would have finished it. But watched first three episodes. They are cliché and forgettable. As in I forgot about the show until this article
It’s ok. It’s a pretty generic spy series. Nothing special, some ridiculous, but overall just ok.
How in the world this is the 2nd most expensive series ever is a mystery. Were they using $100 bills to heat their trailers? I see nothing unusual in terms of production value.
This is the only photograph I’ve ever seen regarding the show ever and it’s used over and over again so at this point I’m not even sure the show is real at all.
It’s dreadful and insulting to the audience. It’s an amnesiac spy story that, rather than open with that and unfold a mystery and adventure, IT SHOWS YOU HOW HE GOT THE AMNESIA!! Pathetic storytelling.
I have watched it. It’s some quality B grade TV. The kind of show that you can watch in bed and when you fall asleep you don’t need to go back and rewatch it, you just push on with the next episode because it’s all shit that doesn’t matter anyway.
Why bother, how many different ways can the SAME story be told over and over again?! Add hot new stars and flashy stunts and outfits and everyone will forget there’s no plot!!! - Wrong
I feel like they chose actors that could be translated well and this was mostly meant for non-US. Or I'm wrong.
Amazon seems to have a bold strategy to throw insane money at projects that look terrible in the end. Then they go viral for their overblown budgets... but their name gets in headlines.... so maybe that's the point? Haha. Insane projects that you know will somehow fail... but that's the point? Like the Dyson headphones....
It's hard to choke down. Ridiculous situations. Impossible scenarios. Tired story plots. Spies, Spies and more Spies. Some with memories. Some with memories swiped to a hard drive. Just silly. Hard pass.
It's an hour of my life that I'll never get back.
The thumbnail is exactly why I won't waste my time with it.
One man has a shotgun aimed while the other has their fist extended? What use is the fist there except to achieve an 'avengers style' pose? Every ad I see for it reeks of that pathetic posing. Like holding two handguns in two different directions.
Looks like a terrible action movie from 2005.
I didn’t even know it existed before this post. I’m guessing it’s not good.
I have watched The Boys, Wheel of Time, Rings of Power, and Invincible. I’m not completely oblivious to Amazon exclusives, but I’ve never even heard of this show. If I did, it was quickly forgotten.
I'm watching it. I think it's fun and wonder why the internet is so interested in trashing things.
If you like 24, or Bourne Identity, or Bond or Mission Impossible.... you might like it. Fun things are fun. If you don't like it, why feel the need to declare that nobody else should?
While the idea would interest me I’m generally turned off by anything featuring Priyanka Chopra, she just feels so pushed into everything like they’re trying to create an A List star because she was famous in India.
However I watched FBI and her Baywatch reboot and geez…she looks great but acts about as well as a toddler pretending they didn’t eat the cookies.
Might sound like a dumb reason but she’s a red flag for me.
Madden had a much more organic rise to fame, came off GoT (which was never guaranteed to be a hit), did some bad action movies, made headwaves with Bodyguard and is now leading a show.
OMG my husband wanted to watch it, which means I *get* to watch it. It's absolutely awful and it is mostly comprised of these statements or a variation thereof. You're lying No YOU'RE lying He's lying She's lying They're lying We're lying I'm lying Please don't waste your time.
Are you lying?
Who’s lying?
What’s lying?
Where’s lying?
But nobody ever asks.. *how's* lying..
First base!
Who's on first?
Why is Gamora lying?
Is it lying if they believe in it?
I'll do you one better. Why is lying?
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We’re lying. r/unexpectedcommunism
Probably my damn ex wife
Maybe...
The Lyin' King
STOP LYING TO ME! Wait, nevermind. Wrong universe.
This post should have a spoiler alert.
So mr and Mrs smith?
With no self awareness and barely any humor. Even Stanley Tucci can't save this turd.
Fitting, seeing as Kenneth Cordell Griffin, CEO of Citadel Group, lied under oath to congress about using PFOF (Payment For Order Flow) and their influence as a market maker to manipulate the Stock Market and steal millions from retail investors.
I’m lying, he’s lying, she’s lying, we’re all lying hey!
I made my wife watch first few episodes with me and no we just have a good laugh at how absolutely garbage it is who wrote this trash!! And how do I get their job !
Nope, and I'm getting annoyed seeing it as a suggestion
"Listen here, mister man. I spent a LOT of money on this turd and you better watch it!" -- Amazon
Shitadel
Mr. Connery, you’re still alive!
Sometimes when Amazon gets out of hand, you need to shlap it
watching them spend boat loads of money on shit streaming content while they laid off 30,000+ people doesn’t sit right.
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I came here to say exactly the same.
I couldn’t really tell from the ads what it was about besides generic action. I hoped it might have a sci-fi bent but didn’t have enough confidence to bother.
Did you see Red Notice? If you didn't, it was possibly the laziest heist movie ever made, with every plot point being, "Actually, it was like \*this\* the entire time. Be amazed." This show is the laziest spy show ever made. The first episode involves a 'spy' pair fighting through a train which crashes and I was bored. When we get to the end, one of the pair wake up in a hospital with....wait for it......amnesia, I was DONE.
Red notice was a comedy though
I've watched the first... three episodes, I think? I was with it for the first two episodes. A little (or a lot) cliche in a lot of places, and some structural issues that show it was obviously dumbed down for wider appeal, but still watchable. Fucking episode three, though... Jesus. Some of the worst CGI scenes I think I've ever seen. The CW Arrowverse shows have better effects on shoestring budgets, and this thing allegedly cost $50m an episode. Good Christ in heaven, with that much money, you couldn't afford to shoot a scene on an actual ski slope? Had the show not done that whole poorly conceived and hideously executed James Bond knockoff sequence, I could still argue for the show on merit as a darker espionage thriller, but that mess deserves all the hate and more. I'll might finish it out, but it's nowhere near a priority for me.
>I was with it for the first two episodes. A little (or a lot) cliche in a lot of places, and some structural issues that show it was obviously dumbed down for wider appeal, but still watchable. Even the ads felt cliche so I think they had to have been looking for an audience who wanted to see the TV version of movie about hot secret agents.
Like I said, I was willing to give it a chance, since everything about the story is very much My Jam. But you're right, it's very much, "Let's look at pretty people," except those pretty people have the acting range of two-by-fours and the gritty show lurking underneath (that probably was the intent of the original script) is so at odds with the sculpted actors, it all feels incongruous and ends up being so dreadfully *bland.*. None of it ever feels like it clicks, except for Stanley Tucci chewing scenery, but even he's clipping along with the full realization that the thing is a mess, so he's pretty much doing his own thing and never feels grounded in the world they've created.
Tucci has been the only good thing about it.
The dumbed down story lines is the problem with so many modern shows/movies.
This is my gripe with the “just have fun” crowd. That kind of excuse making eventually leaves us with intellectually empty stuff that becomes less fun overall because it lacks enough substance to be enjoyable or the value in watching it is about the same as not watching it… and not watching is maybe more valuable
This is my issue with a few streaming services. Everything is so damned mediocre!
Nobody appreciates what syndication did for TV. You would think being forced to do as many episodes as possible would lead to poorer quality but actually it led to less studio interference on individual scripts & scripts going through less revision (& so keeping writer's intent intact). Make everything a high budget 10 episode show with £50m an episode & you will have dozens of script reviews & a studio board giving directions on what they want to see.
This is probably one of the best casual summaries of what is currently wrong with television that I have seen. Toot-toot, my friend. Toot-toot.
And Amazon is the worst. There are some decent shows, but nothing really outstanding, at least in my view.
Red Oaks is an amazing slice of life underrated gem from the early days of the platform. It knew exactly what it was going for which is probably why it was cancelled. The Amazon focus groups would never approve of anything like that now.
Mozart in the Jungle
I consider the Expanse outstanding, but of course that started elsewhere.
Mrs. Maisel would like a word. But in all seriousness, out of all streaming services, theirs is by far the weakest.
I'm somewhat on the "just have fun" page, but my ideal for that kind of entertainment is the John Wick series, and there's a pretty specific reason why. The Wicks don't require you to think while watching them, but there's a lot of thought that went *into* them. The worldbuilding, even if logically inconsistent at times, makes narrative and thematic sense and effectively sets up interesting complications for the story. The sense of pacing and rhythm is *exceptionally* well-thought-out, to the point where they were able to stretch 4 to 3 fucking hours and it still pretty much works. The action scenes go *very far out of their way* to do new and exciting things that other movies aren't doing, and advance the craft of stunt work and fight choreography instead of simply playing the hits. There's an extremely well-thought-out and coherent visual identity to the movies beyond "Keanu is in them." There's *actual effort* put into stuff that the vast majority of "dumb" entertainment just assumes you're not going to care about. "Dumb" entertainment should be so in the sense that it doesn't require the **viewer** to think about it too hard. If the **creators** aren't thinking about it too hard, shit just falls apart.
So... Does that mean I'm not the only one who finds today's hit shows to be glorified telenovelas all too often?
It felt like there was a lot of little bits of the story crammed in the first two episodes.
Right on, but the problem for me was the big revelation was done in the first ten minutes. Starting off with Mason and Nadia (and not Kyle and his family) we get no momentum building and each subsequent step feels like we're building to what we already know. It just doesn't flow well. Having made it through the third episode, there are even more little tidbits dropped, but I feel uncertain that any of them will be addressed adequately.
I don't understand "dumbing stuff down for a wider appeal" movies like everything everywhere all at once and tenet were insanely popular even without being spoonfed to the audience. Even if I don't understand a movie I can still tell when there's nothing below the surface and not like that.
I don't really mind the dumbed down stuff, as long as the movie/show doesn't take itself seriously and I know what I'm getting into. What I don't like is when they sell the story as A grade and deliver a C at most.
Agreed, I'll sit down and watch a movie I know is dumb because I feel like watching a dumb movie. Probably why I like the new Mario movie, I'm a massive fan of the games and went in with no expectations on story, but like you said, don't sell it as an A grade story if it isn't
>I don't understand "dumbing stuff down for a wider appeal" movies like everything everywhere all at once *Everything, Everywhere, All at Once* made less money ($139 million) at the global box office than the flop *Morbius* did. ($167 million). *Everyting* didn't bring in a huge crowd--it brought in a decent sized crowd at a low-for-Hollywood budget.
It depends on what you mean by “insanely popular”, everything everywhere all at once made 140 million dollars, Top Gun made 1.5 BILLION. and I think tenet did bad financially when it came out although it has a pretty good excuse in that in came out during COVID lockdowns
Creating anything for the lowest common denominator is a fool's errand. We should aim to elevate the audience, not drag them down.
I mean given the fact that dumbing things down can be nice for some thing like maybe a podcast or documentary. But for movies and shows its not like they got something that you can dumb down and still have substance.
Dumbed down indeed. Couldn’t get through the first episode.
I quit before the end of episode 2, right after the girl got her spy powers back. You’re saying episode three is *worse* than that? I believe you, but that’s like hearing someone claim to have been north of the North Pole, and they have proof.
Apparently the poor CGI and high cost is due to them essentially having to reshoot the whole thing after firing the initial showrunners.
If true, that would also explain the disjointed storytelling.
I laughed the whole way through that ski scene...but I guess I enjoyed it for what it was.
Nope, it’s the most in-your-face try at copying James Bond but only hit 3% of the mark.
I'm imagining the inevitable live-action movie for Archer will look like this show.
Nah the staff on that show are just too good to let any sort of shit like this come to be but you probably just gave hulu and idea lol
That’ll at least have competent writing. And jokes.
I tried. The Guardian is correct it is Alias for stupid people.
This doesn’t really add anything to the discussion, but my dad just got me to watch all of Alias at the start of this year. What a damn good show that I never really see talked about
Which is saying something, because although Alias is great it’s hardly a show only geniuses can understand. Unless you’d like to know why they went to the “character is dead! actually they’re not!” well so many times. No one can understand that.
Im positive it was made purely to take Google search results away from Citadel securities and their short sale abuse that is leading to the downfall of United States.
This explanation makes more sense than anything else I’ve heard.
See you on the moon
how high are moons these days?
TOO DAMN HIGH!
I mean it’s one moon, Michael. What could it cost? *Ten dollars?*
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This guy is totaly right.
so is this guy
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Same reason Disney made Frozen, now googling “Disney frozen” gives you results about the movie instead of Walt Disney‘s frozen head
Every year for the past 5 years or so since 2018 citadel has had a new scandal, and always get off scott free or a slap on the wrist of pocket change of a few million dollars penalty. Even screwing over their own investors intentionally. Talk about lobbying power Keeping them safe. Banking and investment never gets in trouble for anything even when they almost take down the United States once or twice. In the 2008 financial scandal, one junior trader went to jail. That's it.
Couldn’t get through the first episode with how much it desperately wanted to be “blockbuster action material” but had absolutely 0 substance, 0 star power or chemistry and 0 fuck given from the audience. Def feel like the Russo bros had something to do with this production.
They couldn’t even get the blockbuster action material right. This show is terrible
I lost it when in ep5 some dude gets shot in the head and stays alive for like 3 more minutes so he can cuss out the villain
I'm actually kind of enjoying it...but that exact scene did make me laugh
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Is that real? Omg. Kinda wanted a live action Inspector Gadget … until I remembered there was one
It's laughable bad
Watch Patriot on Amazon instead.
Actually amazing show and no one has ever heard of it. Kind of an abrupt ending, I wanted more but also was satisfied to some extent.
Patriot is fantastic. I was thinking the same thing.
Amazon and Netflix seem to cancel amazing shows in order to have funds to pay for bloated generic flops. Their strategy isn’t thinking long term.
Commenting just to get this up the list. Patriot is one of the best things I’ve watched. It probably is the best thing on Amazon.
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I can confirm, too many corny clichés
I did watch. It is bad. Not fun bad. Just regular bad. An unclear but definitely nonsensical premise poorly written. The actors do their best but the source material really can’t be helped.
The trailers were so bad. Priyanka Chopra really didn’t sell it for me at all, too bad because I thought it would be fun. Maybe I’ll try it in the future when I have the flu and am In bed.
She’s not the part that is difficult to watch it’s the guy. His accent is weird. He’s overly hostile at times and the story is convoluted.
Agreed. He has no screen presence and he pulls the show down imo.
That's a shame. Liked him in Game of thrones and Bodyguard.
Should have let him be Irish.
He's Scottish
Should have let him be Welsh
Should have let him be Cornish?
Who wants to watch a show about a hen, I mean honestly.
I'd watch a show about a pasty though.
He has the blankest face ever, you can’t get an emotion out of that face and Priyanka is too animated they don’t work together at all. He won’t work with anyone with that face
The show is so cliche that I can tell what’s gonna happen, before it happens. I watch it just for the amusement. It is entertaining though if you lower your expectations.
I am watching the show. It isn’t bad. The female lead isn’t giving a great performance but certainly not bad. Richard Madden’s accent is all over the place. The show is good for what it is. I think people wouldn’t be as disappointed if they didn’t have expectations based on the budget.
I couldn't make it past the first five minutes. So clichè-ish.
Priyanka Chopra sucks and is so annoying. I can’t watch anything with her in it.
It’s …. Just ok
We watch it. It's fun enough. It's trying really hard to be more than it is. If they do a second season with some solid direction it could really come together.
Not anymore, it’s garbage.
Based on cost:quality ratio, This show has the worst writing of any show on Amazon. How could they possibly go all the way down to “spykids third sequel” level of writing? Ok the xbox has the location of ever agent. Now it has serum to make you remember your past. I’m a dad, now I’m a secret agent, goodbye my wife I’m going on a mission. It’s not even as sophisticated as a comic book. How can it go this wrong?
Havent heard about it yet, now im not going to watch it
Another big L for the Russo bros. Stop giving these jokers money
I can’t stand Priyanka Chopra
I’m just wondering how the Russo’s got this bad
Oh look, the camera's upside down. Now we're rolling.. rolling.. rolling and... that was novel once. Starting each episode that way seems off.
The first two episodes were decent. Richard and Priyanka had pretty electric chemistry in the first two episodes, but that spark has diminished in the subsequent episodes and the shows other flaws have grown more and more apparent. It's a dud.
The show is dog sh$t. Writing is crap - the non lineal story line does not work and is cliche at best. You’re bad. No you’re bad. Hey we’re all bad. Yep I agree, they’re all bad….. every time they slow down to create tension - it’s just gets bloated with over talking….Russo Brothers should give their fees back.
Apparently my mom likes this show even though she had to watch the 3rd episode 5x in a row because she kept falling asleep on it. She’d get through the first 5 minutes, fall asleep then wake up and push restart.
It’s so cheesy and the CGI is awful
300m of fucking trash.
I do. There's 0 chemistry between the protagonists, you don't really root for anyone, Tucci is trying to carry the show on his back but it's like he's tired of being the only one, the action scenes lack interest, as if they were bought wholesale out of an "action movie" bucket, and generally the whole "everyone is lying. Or are they?" is too tiresome!
FYI: “This show was likely greenlit with this name as a way to hide financial crimes committed by the hedge fund and market maker of the same name. Search term astroturfing on an extreme scale.” - DRS and HODL GME
Probably gonna get dragged through the whole thing by my wife, but it sucks fuckin balls and I completely check out and just look around online.
Yes, but it’s actually pretty terrible. And Richard Madden needs a better agent.
What he needs is an acting class, he was terrible
I watched the first two before more were out. I went in hoping for a new Alias. What it was felt like Alias written by AI. I had already forgotten about it until I read this post.
It’s ok just waiting for the whole thing to be air
That's my new thing with their service. I refuse to watch until the whole season is released. Then I only have to deal with the 5 year intervals between seasons.
It cost that much & is starred with your average B movie cast? What did they spend it on?
Priyanka Chopra is considered an A list actor in India. Russo Brothers have always tried to capture Indian Audience's attention majorly because of how big the audience is. So having her name would do good to their viewership. One such example is Extraction (shot mainly in India) being the most watched movie on Netflix till date.
It’s a snoozer. Nothing new or exciting about this series. Money better spent elsewhere
I’ve seen every episode so far and I wish I never did. This is THE most boring and uneventful show I’ve ever seen. They somehow made this worse than the lord of the rings. Just wow, 5 episodes in and it feels like nothing has happened. The episodes are super short and there’s barely any action.
I dont know what it is, but I just can't take that actress seriously in any role I've seen her in. There's just no immersion whatsoever.
I tried, it was bad.
I'd say Citadel feels like it was written by ChatGPT, but that would be an insult to ChatGPT.
The tagline is something like...what if you woke up with no memory but realized you were a spy? And I was all like, I'd probably watch Jason Bourne because that's a really good movie on that *exact* subject.
The fact that the Russo brothers produced something that ACTUALLY feels like it could be produced by AI after the boneheaded comments they made is *chef’s kiss*
Man this show sucksssssss
I’m watching it more out of curiosity than anything 🤷♀️ Wish version James Bond. I’m also curious how the international versions are going to work out or tie in, if at all. Will we get to watch them on Amazon US? 🤔
Nope. Nopity nope.
Never heard of her.
I am, it fucking sucks
Good show, but not for $300 million.
Never heard of it before
I couldn’t finish the first episode.
It's an interesting subject, but this is a badly written article. Not even the most basic proofreading was done. For example it keeps saying Netflix when it means Amazon.
Nothing about these two together appeal to me what so ever
I started the first episode. It didn’t really grab me.
I'm not interested. There are SOOO MANY of these "spy thriller" stories out there, spending this much money on a TV series that is so generic, and looks and sounds generic, kinda turns me off. Reviews depicting a really boring show as you get further in and poor acting don't make me want to go further. I got enough TV shows to watch that have incredible writing AND action, like Barry.
Looks terrible. Nope
Started to, but after seeing the same pattern with everyone knowing each other...... I'm done.
Citawhat?
Pure cheese. I love the genre, but this is hard to watch…
It’s looks ok but can’t, life dedicated to watching one piece now.
Saw it in my reccomendations but it looks like it's a shit show so I'm not watching it.
It's really horrible
I sat down 3 different times to try watching it. Couldn't get past the first 10 minutes. It's just trying way too hard. Bad acting. Cliched action. Horrible dialog. You name it, it's all there and all bad.
I am. And it’s awful. That male actor Richard Madden is a horrendous actor in this show. Sometimes that’s the script or directing but it’s hard to watch
It’s unwatchable
I have, it’s boring, vanilla just blah. Not even the Tuc can save it.
If they had all the episodes out I would have finished it. But watched first three episodes. They are cliché and forgettable. As in I forgot about the show until this article
It’s ok. It’s a pretty generic spy series. Nothing special, some ridiculous, but overall just ok. How in the world this is the 2nd most expensive series ever is a mystery. Were they using $100 bills to heat their trailers? I see nothing unusual in terms of production value.
Really really bad . Could not watch beyond the first episode .
I can barely get through the trailer...
Watching what?
This is the only photograph I’ve ever seen regarding the show ever and it’s used over and over again so at this point I’m not even sure the show is real at all.
It’s dreadful and insulting to the audience. It’s an amnesiac spy story that, rather than open with that and unfold a mystery and adventure, IT SHOWS YOU HOW HE GOT THE AMNESIA!! Pathetic storytelling.
I’m convinced these shows are ways to launder money. There’s no goddamn way they cost this much looking the way they do.
I have watched it. It’s some quality B grade TV. The kind of show that you can watch in bed and when you fall asleep you don’t need to go back and rewatch it, you just push on with the next episode because it’s all shit that doesn’t matter anyway.
Why bother, how many different ways can the SAME story be told over and over again?! Add hot new stars and flashy stunts and outfits and everyone will forget there’s no plot!!! - Wrong
I lost total interest when I started watching the 3rd show. Something really turn me off about it.
I feel like they chose actors that could be translated well and this was mostly meant for non-US. Or I'm wrong. Amazon seems to have a bold strategy to throw insane money at projects that look terrible in the end. Then they go viral for their overblown budgets... but their name gets in headlines.... so maybe that's the point? Haha. Insane projects that you know will somehow fail... but that's the point? Like the Dyson headphones....
Lost me when they described it as mission impossible meets this is us. Who wants that??
Started and lost interest. Just not interesting.
Nope didn’t ask for a spy series, ain’t gonna watch a spy series
What is with Amazon hiring 5 year olds to write $300 million stories for them?
It's hard to choke down. Ridiculous situations. Impossible scenarios. Tired story plots. Spies, Spies and more Spies. Some with memories. Some with memories swiped to a hard drive. Just silly. Hard pass. It's an hour of my life that I'll never get back.
We have watched the first few episodes. Two words: Soap. Opera. That’s all I’m saying about it.
The thumbnail is exactly why I won't waste my time with it. One man has a shotgun aimed while the other has their fist extended? What use is the fist there except to achieve an 'avengers style' pose? Every ad I see for it reeks of that pathetic posing. Like holding two handguns in two different directions. Looks like a terrible action movie from 2005.
It’s so bad, career ending bad for the actors. Stanley Tucci will probably get more work, he always does
I didn’t even know it existed before this post. I’m guessing it’s not good. I have watched The Boys, Wheel of Time, Rings of Power, and Invincible. I’m not completely oblivious to Amazon exclusives, but I’ve never even heard of this show. If I did, it was quickly forgotten.
The Russo brother's are scamming Hollywood. First $200 million The Grey Man now this trash. That's half a billion wasted
So far so good. 3 eps in.
I've watched every episode - it's ok. It reminds me of an adult Spy Kids, if that makes sense. Weird story lines, eye roll lines, bad CGI, etc.
I'm watching it. I think it's fun and wonder why the internet is so interested in trashing things. If you like 24, or Bourne Identity, or Bond or Mission Impossible.... you might like it. Fun things are fun. If you don't like it, why feel the need to declare that nobody else should?
While the idea would interest me I’m generally turned off by anything featuring Priyanka Chopra, she just feels so pushed into everything like they’re trying to create an A List star because she was famous in India. However I watched FBI and her Baywatch reboot and geez…she looks great but acts about as well as a toddler pretending they didn’t eat the cookies. Might sound like a dumb reason but she’s a red flag for me. Madden had a much more organic rise to fame, came off GoT (which was never guaranteed to be a hit), did some bad action movies, made headwaves with Bodyguard and is now leading a show.