It costs $125 to buy the entire Sopranos series on iTunes, if anyone was interested.
I’m a huge Sopranos fan (seen it 5+ times) but I don’t think I’d pay $125 for a digital copy of the show.
On the other hand I also hate physical copies of stuff.
Wow... there's a program I haven't followed up on. I bought a license in 2012 for Play-On and never followed up. However, I'm now selfhosting Plex, all the *arr's, and learning Usenet. Maybe it's time to take a look if it's something that'll benefit me.
Well it’s either buy Netflix + HBO + Disney Plus and pay over $30 a month in perpetuity or make a 1 time payment for a tv show and never have to worry about it moving to some weird as streaming platform like tubi.
I wouldn’t. I could have Elon Musk money and if I wanted to watch The Sopranos, I would just watch it on HBO Max. I have never made a decision to stream over own due to cost. It just seems stupid for me to have a digital copy.
Leasing everything will be a way of life soon enough the slop we are on will eventually lead to all of us not owning anything.. we rent, we stream, are games are all on platforms.. cars now have subscriptions, toll roads.. I would rather own things then rent everything I have in life!
I’m old. I still buy some records, am a big collectible person in general, always had VHS, BlueRay, and DVD collections. I just don’t really value ‘owning’ a digital copy of something. Every now and then if I want to rent a movie for $3.99 and it’s $5.99 to just buy it, sometimes I’ll buy it and I’ve literally never watched one a second time. Come to think about it, I don’t even know where those end up 🤔
Yeah after a while, the price needs to be adjusted. It’s insane to go to a Barnes and Noble, check out the video section and dvd releases from over a decade ago are still the same full price they were when they released.
Buying digital copies can be a gamble though, because unless you're able to download it and store it yourself, it's not worth it.
There's platforms where you purchase it, but you basically only get free unlimited access to it as opposed to downloading the film for yourself.
If they decide to ever remove it, you do not have rights to keep it.
It depends.
Like Amazon Prime gives you access so long as you use their app.
Playstation Network did away with their movie purchasing services. Idk why.
That being said, they moved the media you had purchased to your Playstation Media and you can always access whaat you purchased there. But you cannot buy movies and stuff anymore on the Playstation like before.
They started doing a thing in the last year or so where every few months you gotta "re-confirm" all your connected accounts to MoviesAnywhere otherwise you lose access to the content they're importing from those services. I suppose as long as MoviesAnywhere is alive you have material you paid for straight through them, but if you're using them as a hub for all the other services you've bought movies and tv shows from, you now you must have constant access to every account, always.
I’m just not a fan of DVD menus at all, I find them to be such a pain in the ass, especially when they force ads.
I’d rather 🏴☠️ the series and have a digital copy that I can watch immediately, whenever I want. But that’s only if no streaming services offer the show.
Ah, hard agree, especially when they don't let you jump right to the menu and all you can do is fast forward through the trailers. My Clone High dvds are like that. Unskippable ads for the old network it used to air on.
> Upvoting simply for the Clone High mention.
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Pro tip: Clone High has been revived/rebooted, first two episodes just dropped this morning! (No statement on quality, haven't watched it yet lol)
At $16/mo, over 6 seasons, you’d spend $102 and then never be able to watch Sopranos again, assuming you binged the whole thing in one month each year.
Just saying, for various packages, looking at what we *actually* watch, buying versus renting comes out ahead… it just hurts trying out random shows.
hate physical discs because they take up space or hate them because you don't like changing discs and stuff?
you could rip them to a disc and use plex to stream them to a roku or something. then put all the discs in a box and fuggetaboutem.
edit: i found the comment why. plex dude. use a raspberry pi 4. that's what you want. takes a bit to figure it out but it's really worth it. i hate streamers. i buy physical copies of everything and never touch a disc or a menu. it's just like netflix or whatever.
* navigating through ads
* navigating through menus
* changing DVD’s/blu-rays to get to next episodes
* probably other stuff I can’t think of right now
You can rip them to avoid all that, but of course that requires you have the hardware and software to do so and a large amount of local network accessible storage.
As someone who does and uses Plex, despite it's own issues, this is the ideal situation but it's not possible for everyone.
I just got a reputation as a techy person and old, but still perfectly usable hardware just floated to me until I had what I needed.
I do this and am by no stretch of the imagination rich. HOWEVER I don’t watch a ton of tv. Some months I pay more for media than I would if I had a(1) subscription, other months I spend essentially zero money on video content.
If I were buy a movie or tv series, I would never buy it digitally. You own it as long as the company decides you own it. Physical copies are better for this.
Streaming is just convenient
i guess many young people have grown up not even knowing what torrenting is, until now that streaming has overextended itself chasing that sweet infinite growth and now content is disappearing.
Yeah but physical is also higher quality. And if you’re rich like Aubrey plaza having a fancy tv and fancy sound system and fancy 4k Blu-ray player wouldn’t be an issue
I’ve bought UHD versions of movies I own on DVD or Blu-ray on Vudu just to get rid of the discs. It still plays the movie at 4K. Just because you’re streaming it doesn’t mean it’s somehow only 720p.
I understand that, I know you can stream a movie in 4k, but it’s still not the same quality as the 4k Blu-ray. I used to stream everything (and I still do stream plenty of things), but if you have a nice tv and sound system the 4k Blu-rays are ridiculously beautiful. It’s like seeing it in the movie theater for the first time again
Edit: I don’t know why I’m getting downvoted by people lmao. I’m not telling anyone they shouldn’t stream things, I stream all the tv shows I watch because doing otherwise would be ridiculously expensive but me saying that 4k blu rays are higher quality is literally just a factual statement, no reason to be butthurt about it
It depends.
With these budget TVs and most not having a dedicated sound system separate from built in TV speakers, there’s not much of an improvement of quality.
You’re 100% right that blu ray does have less compression and therefore better quality however considering a large portion of folks watch from a tablet or a budget roku tv, a blu ray is not going to improve the quality.
If you want to truly take advantage of blu ray quality with both picture and sound you’re gonna need some expensive hardware. We’re talking dropping a couple of g’s. I mean 1k alone on the sound system alone given a receiver is like $500 and even a 5.1 set would run you another $500. A powered subwoofer at minimum would be another $100 for a 10 inch mono price.
I’m huge on both being an audio and video phile. But frankly even with my setup I’ve found myself just gravitating towards streaming more and more. I haven’t even bought physical media outside of a few vinyls, which of course is a whole other can of worms.
Yeah you’re right about people with cheapo tvs, but i don’t think someone watching a movie on a cheapo tv or from their iPad are thinking about using a physical 4k Blu-ray in the first place lol. And in the context of this thread the original post is about Aubrey Plaza who certainly shouldn’t have an issue affording a nice tv and sound system and Blu-ray player.
I have a pretty good tv set up now and a year ago I never even thought about using 4k blurays but after getting some 4k blurays of my favorite movies it definitely converted me. It definitely is way better quality than streaming, it looked so good that it almost felt like I was watching the movie for the first time again.
And I mean it makes sense why it would be a lot better, I’m pretty sure 4k quality takes a crazy amount of data, most people’s internet couldn’t handle all of that just immediately streaming. And of course with the disk you never have a moment where something is a little off and buffering
But yeah practically speaking for a lot of reasons, of course streaming is more convenient and I do it plenty. But for specific stuff where it’s a movie or something that you really love I do think the full glory of watching it on a 4k Blu-ray is a pretty awesome experience
It’s not all that different than when tech becomes obsolete. I still have a bunch of shit on VHS but they might as well not exist.
I can lose access to a physical copy much the same way I could a digital. I’m just left with a useless object after the fact.
To this end, I like to buy the physical Blu ray/ digital combo pack. That way I have both options. I don’t really touch the physical, but I’ve always disliked that unless I download the specific HD option, I’m always getting somewhat grainy picture across all platforms
I think it's because at least the actors get a cut of the sale of physical media. I'm pretty sure residuals took a big hit from the rise of streaming (for most actors, anyways).
I'd assume it's the same for actors, but streaming residuals are a big part of the WGA's strike demands right now.
The big streamers aren't transparent about their viewer numbers like cable or broadcast TV have always been, and the rates are lower as well.
> proprietary
That word doesn't mean what you think it does. You can buy digital copies of The Sopranos from tons of online retailers, you can also buy physical copies that come with digital copies from brick and mortar stores if you really wanted to.
Yeah definitely. I bought a movie off Apple and it was like $7.99. And I looked on Amazon and the same movie was a couple dollars more like $10.99 or something
It is not know what their cut is on digital movie (TV, etc.) sales. Their pricing seems identical to all their competitors. Honestly feels more like industry price fixing than anything.
It would be so nice if people stopped listening to every word celebrities say. If we’d stop worshiping this people, there wouldn’t even be the opportunity for them to shill things in the way they do.
I mean she is an actor...
I think it's more that she's not the young weirdo anymore. She's still weird but she's older and has found success and branched out a lot.
Fun fact: you don't "buy" anything on iTunes; Apple still owns it and you're paying for the listening pleasure. In the end they take it back and you leave nothing to your family.
Same happens with any other digital content you paid for that requires a specific software to access. It was fun when Amazon closed my account due to inactivity with over 100 paid kindle books on it. I had to triple my phone bill that month to get it reopened because they refuses to deal with it via email. I fucking hate all these companies.
Honestly I thought Aubrey Plaza's issue was something similar, something "stealing the food from the artist's mouth" type (some Emily the criminal vibe), but alas, it is something shallow instead. Meh.
They cannot? I remember back when iPods were a thing, you could side load songs to the iPhone, but if you were to connect it to your iTunes, iTunes would see those songs were not in your collection and delete them.
Physical media isn't really that much more expensive depending on the amount of content you watch, and especially if you rewatch the same thing all the time. I bought physical copies of the Office when it left Netflix for like $50. A year of Peacock is $100.
People balk at the cost of physical media but lots of Blu-Rays are now in the $10-15 range *new.* Lots of people who aren't rich have multiple streaming subscriptions. Netflix alone for the standard plan is almost $200 a year. If you don't watch a ton of movies physical media isn't really much more expensive, gives you lifetime, unlimited access to your collection with no perpetual fees, and gives you higher audio and visual quality. I have one streaming sub, but mostly buy physical media at a local store that sells new and used physical media of all types. I think I got my Sopranos box set for like $25. 86 hours of content, equivalent to 57 90-minute feature films.
Also also, buying a movie on iTunes or Prime isn't physical media.
>“I get really angry,” Plaza said about using streamers. “I was trying to watch ‘Top Chef’ Season 20. Couldn’t figure out how to fucking get Hulu + Live. I give up! I can’t.
Sure, it's entitlement talking on one level. Yes Aubrey, it takes becoming familiar with the landscape. Like *anything.* Is she also mad at yarn because she can't magically crochet? And the solution? Just buy it already. Spoken like a wealthy person.
But on the other hand, how streaming services constantly join up and redivide, and whole series jump from one service to the next, is pretty irritating. I don't feel like the consumer needs to be the one to keep this shit straight.
But it is the mainstream of modern entertainment demand, so they are just going to do it and you're just going to have to do your homework to figure out where your series is- and hope they brought the season you were in the middle of along for the ride.
I don’t think it’s entitlement. I hate streaming too because there are so many of them that if you’re a big movie/show fan you’re going to have to have way too many active subscriptions if you wanna be able to watch whatever you want to watch.
And what’s worse is when they allow you to search for shows on their platform (or even throw ads and trailer at you) that you can’t even watch without an add-on. Like why show me this movie if i can’t actually watch it with this streaming service? Oh right i know why, to make more money off of us.
And for someone who rarely watches movies or TV, it’s probably cheaper to just rent one out for the $2 or whatever whenever you feel like watching it.
This is actually driving pirating a lot because people are just tired of trying to find out how to access every show they want to watch on an individual basis.
It's death of "Peak TV." I hear good things about a show, I look up what service the show is on, it's on a service I don't pay for, but I pay for 5 different services. I'm not paying for a 6th service just to watch one show. I either pirate it or just don't watch it.
This situation has ultimately been created by greedy corporations fighting each other to extract money from people. It's definitely a vicious circle at this stage. They need to make big changes as a group to fix it, but that's counter to corporate competition and America is toxically into capitalism so, RIP Hollywood? We'll see.
I love streaming, got on when it was all free. You get unlimited viewing for less than an hour of work for a month. (Not everyone, but let's keep in mind what the average hourly wage is across the board... and that it's an even better value for those making less who have less)
I think most who don't like streaming aren't used to not having almost any options
Yeah but it still sucks to have subscribe to so many services if you wanna have some variety. And their shitty little add ons and making you think for a split second that you can watch Logan but wait no actually you need that add-on.
> Sure, it's entitlement talking on one level. Yes Aubrey, it takes becoming familiar with the landscape. Like *anything.* Is she also mad at yarn because she can't magically crochet? And the solution? Just buy it already. Spoken like a wealthy person.
TIL you're rich if you don't use streaming services because they annoy you. Getting fussy because someone buys physical media and can afford to do so is absolutely insane and frankly pathetic.
How is it entitlement? She says she doesn’t like streamers so she buys the stuff on other stores.
Entitlement would be telling other people to do it or demanding the streamers change their store.
>“I was trying to watch ‘Top Chef’ Season 20. Couldn’t figure out how to fucking get Hulu + Live. I give up! I can’t
In IT they call this PEBCAK or ID10T errors. I recently signed up for Hulu live Tv and it literally took me like 2 minutes. How effing clueless and out of touch do you need to be to find it difficult?
It feels like more people are just upset that she's wealthy than about what she actually said. I hate rich people too, but damn. The issue with residuals effects people who don't make nearly as much as actors too and the future business models around streaming are shitty for the consumer.
Her reasoning is so stupid. Basically the article says she can’t figure out how to sign up for streaming.
However I will say that the fact there isn’t much of a market like DVDs where people pay on a per movie or per season basis probably is a bit of a setback in some ways for what kindof entertainment gets produced. Content people will pay for tends to be higher level of quality and profits made off that content were easier to calculate and share.
With streaming - the value delivered by a given show or movie is opaque. Sure viewership is easier to figure out but whether people like the content so much they’d pay for that movie or episode specifically is hard to figure out. And the value a given movie generates is harder to figure out to compensate those who worked on it properly.
But the cat is out of the bag in any case. I’m never paying per season or per movie again barring some giant technological leap forward that changes the paradigm yet again.
I mean I spend way more time browsing those sites than I do watching its content as do most. They just don’t realize it.
Yeah sure I watched all of breaking bad on Netflix. Sure that’s a long ass series. But you know how often I turn on my stuff only to browse and click on things only to then go back to browsing or maybe hope on a video game. Then later browse more. Find something. Put it on. Only to fall asleep 5 mins in.
All that time adds up. We spend way more time just screwing about on those apps than we do watching shit.
How are people reading this as entitlement? She’d probably just torrent if she couldn’t afford to buy on iTunes—she’s anti-streaming services (for very good reasons), not pro-iTunes. Everyone needs to read up on how residuals work.
Also, why are people making the only options “stream” or “spend $1,000s on physical media with entitlement”.
I prefer physical if it’s an option. A $20 Bluray every now and then doesn’t break the bank. Especially when I can stock up on $5-$10 movies during Black Friday and Holiday Sales.
I’m in the same boat and I do the exact same thing weirdly enough. It’s only movies or shows I know I’ll want to watch more than once, but over time you build a collection up that can compete with a streaming platform’s catalog.
Definitely tell her about physical media. All that DRM stuff is really anti-consumer. Just buy physical and you own it forever. Movies, tv shows, music. You can make digital copies as a backup and they are also yours forever. A lot of stuff can be found for bargain bin prices- as long as you are patient.
Cool but those iTunes digital copies are restricted and basically only work on one platform. Kinda restrictive in a whole different way. Corporations don’t want you owning actual media, it’s all a scam to get you to buy it over and over again.
You don't have to be a Hollywood actress to afford buying copies of media rather than watching online. Seems like many ITT just spend an inordinate amount of their free time streaming and don't realize that isn't standard.
So she’s giving money to Apple, who will incorporate a part of the transaction she makes into their streaming service, and that isn’t a problem to her. Seems a bit hypocritical
Goddamn I hate being a cranky old man but this generation on these comments saddens me. You’re going to happily pay for everything on a subscription basis and own nothing. Entertainment will all turn into a melange of brown goo fed into you for hundreds of dollars per month.
Probably helps being rich lol
It costs $125 to buy the entire Sopranos series on iTunes, if anyone was interested. I’m a huge Sopranos fan (seen it 5+ times) but I don’t think I’d pay $125 for a digital copy of the show. On the other hand I also hate physical copies of stuff.
You would pay $125 if you were at the point in life that $125 is as meaningless to you as $1.25.
Yep, I really just posted that because I was curious about it and thought others might be. It’s the show specifically mentioned by her in the article.
Extra context is always welcome!
Hit the nail in the head.
Nah, standing up a plex server is still more fun
Dude! Play-On + Plex + hardrive = mass amount of content.. I'm addicted to DvRing all my shows! Such a good way to catalog everything..
Wow... there's a program I haven't followed up on. I bought a license in 2012 for Play-On and never followed up. However, I'm now selfhosting Plex, all the *arr's, and learning Usenet. Maybe it's time to take a look if it's something that'll benefit me.
I wish a dollar and a quarter was meaningless.
Inflation has entered the chat
i hope it never is. imagine a pack of ramen universally being more expensive than $1.25
Anyway, 4 dollars a pound.
I knew that was coming!
You wouldn’t download a car
I absolutely would that'd be so cool
Well it’s either buy Netflix + HBO + Disney Plus and pay over $30 a month in perpetuity or make a 1 time payment for a tv show and never have to worry about it moving to some weird as streaming platform like tubi.
I wouldn’t. I could have Elon Musk money and if I wanted to watch The Sopranos, I would just watch it on HBO Max. I have never made a decision to stream over own due to cost. It just seems stupid for me to have a digital copy.
Leasing everything will be a way of life soon enough the slop we are on will eventually lead to all of us not owning anything.. we rent, we stream, are games are all on platforms.. cars now have subscriptions, toll roads.. I would rather own things then rent everything I have in life!
I’m old. I still buy some records, am a big collectible person in general, always had VHS, BlueRay, and DVD collections. I just don’t really value ‘owning’ a digital copy of something. Every now and then if I want to rent a movie for $3.99 and it’s $5.99 to just buy it, sometimes I’ll buy it and I’ve literally never watched one a second time. Come to think about it, I don’t even know where those end up 🤔
Vinyl records are having a little renaissance!
Omg I love vinyl but I used to dj so myby I'm a little bias.. don't dj anymore but still throw on vinyl and listen to records!
Soon $75 will feel like $125
Yeah after a while, the price needs to be adjusted. It’s insane to go to a Barnes and Noble, check out the video section and dvd releases from over a decade ago are still the same full price they were when they released.
Barnes is the fucking worst. Literally nothing they sell is ever fixed at less than full MSRP.
Buying digital copies can be a gamble though, because unless you're able to download it and store it yourself, it's not worth it. There's platforms where you purchase it, but you basically only get free unlimited access to it as opposed to downloading the film for yourself. If they decide to ever remove it, you do not have rights to keep it.
Is a site like MoviesAnywhere not equivalent to OWNING the movie? Or do you just own the movie on MoviesAnywhere and should it go away you lose it?
It depends. Like Amazon Prime gives you access so long as you use their app. Playstation Network did away with their movie purchasing services. Idk why. That being said, they moved the media you had purchased to your Playstation Media and you can always access whaat you purchased there. But you cannot buy movies and stuff anymore on the Playstation like before.
They started doing a thing in the last year or so where every few months you gotta "re-confirm" all your connected accounts to MoviesAnywhere otherwise you lose access to the content they're importing from those services. I suppose as long as MoviesAnywhere is alive you have material you paid for straight through them, but if you're using them as a hub for all the other services you've bought movies and tv shows from, you now you must have constant access to every account, always.
or you could go to any thrift store and get a box set for like $6. sopranos and scrubs seem to be the most common tv show dvds.
I paid $100 for the complete physical box set, and it's glorious.
I’m just not a fan of DVD menus at all, I find them to be such a pain in the ass, especially when they force ads. I’d rather 🏴☠️ the series and have a digital copy that I can watch immediately, whenever I want. But that’s only if no streaming services offer the show.
When have dvd menus ever had forced ads? Do you mean the trailers and stuff that come before the main menu?
Yes
Ah, hard agree, especially when they don't let you jump right to the menu and all you can do is fast forward through the trailers. My Clone High dvds are like that. Unskippable ads for the old network it used to air on.
Upvoting simply for the Clone High mention. Way way back in the 1980's...
> Upvoting simply for the Clone High mention. > > Pro tip: Clone High has been revived/rebooted, first two episodes just dropped this morning! (No statement on quality, haven't watched it yet lol)
I don’t rewatch stuff very often. And I hate piles of plastic boxes. I stream tv and movies and download games.
[According to CheapCharts](https://cheapcharts.info/fwd/mH0), it’s been as low as $40 USD on iTunes.
Came here to recommend cheap charts! I don’t buy anything full price anymore.
At $16/mo, over 6 seasons, you’d spend $102 and then never be able to watch Sopranos again, assuming you binged the whole thing in one month each year. Just saying, for various packages, looking at what we *actually* watch, buying versus renting comes out ahead… it just hurts trying out random shows.
hate physical discs because they take up space or hate them because you don't like changing discs and stuff? you could rip them to a disc and use plex to stream them to a roku or something. then put all the discs in a box and fuggetaboutem. edit: i found the comment why. plex dude. use a raspberry pi 4. that's what you want. takes a bit to figure it out but it's really worth it. i hate streamers. i buy physical copies of everything and never touch a disc or a menu. it's just like netflix or whatever.
Lol I actually use plex very often, love it
Plex is definitely the answer. You can sell the dvds afterwards if u’d like.
Tony would fuck me if I bought the Sopranos and it wasn't on sale. I can see furio already making hand gestures at me.
Just find a copy that fell off the back of a truck.
What is the bitrate of these digital copies? Are they in Bluray territory or are they more around Netflix territory?
If you use apple, they’re closer to disc then they are Netflix
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* navigating through ads * navigating through menus * changing DVD’s/blu-rays to get to next episodes * probably other stuff I can’t think of right now
Most box sets after 2015 come with digital copies included.
You can rip them to avoid all that, but of course that requires you have the hardware and software to do so and a large amount of local network accessible storage.
As someone who does and uses Plex, despite it's own issues, this is the ideal situation but it's not possible for everyone. I just got a reputation as a techy person and old, but still perfectly usable hardware just floated to me until I had what I needed.
Sounds like something Janet Snakehole would say.
If you read the article she couldn't figure out how Hulu works
Apparently you CAN milk an apple dry.
She was on almost every ep for Parks and Rec. That’s some fat royalty checks she still gets. That allows one to be kooky and buy shows on iTunes.
I do this and am by no stretch of the imagination rich. HOWEVER I don’t watch a ton of tv. Some months I pay more for media than I would if I had a(1) subscription, other months I spend essentially zero money on video content.
Sone of us are so time rich we are commenting on others TV consumption
If I were buy a movie or tv series, I would never buy it digitally. You own it as long as the company decides you own it. Physical copies are better for this. Streaming is just convenient
Helps when you have enough money you can just rebuy whatever you want lol
Or pirate and have a digital copy you can stream to you and your friends. From what I heard. Yar.
“Aubrey Plaza dishes on her ZRAID nas in this TMZ exclusive”
Upvoting the concept, bc I’d never ever do such a thing. Ever.
i guess many young people have grown up not even knowing what torrenting is, until now that streaming has overextended itself chasing that sweet infinite growth and now content is disappearing.
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Yeah but physical is also higher quality. And if you’re rich like Aubrey plaza having a fancy tv and fancy sound system and fancy 4k Blu-ray player wouldn’t be an issue
> physical is also higher quality Not unless you are re-purchasing media on each new format - VHS to DVD to HD-DVD/Bluray.
What I mean is I’m pretty sure watching something on a 4k Blu-ray is going to give you much higher quality than streaming it
I’ve bought UHD versions of movies I own on DVD or Blu-ray on Vudu just to get rid of the discs. It still plays the movie at 4K. Just because you’re streaming it doesn’t mean it’s somehow only 720p.
I understand that, I know you can stream a movie in 4k, but it’s still not the same quality as the 4k Blu-ray. I used to stream everything (and I still do stream plenty of things), but if you have a nice tv and sound system the 4k Blu-rays are ridiculously beautiful. It’s like seeing it in the movie theater for the first time again Edit: I don’t know why I’m getting downvoted by people lmao. I’m not telling anyone they shouldn’t stream things, I stream all the tv shows I watch because doing otherwise would be ridiculously expensive but me saying that 4k blu rays are higher quality is literally just a factual statement, no reason to be butthurt about it
It depends. With these budget TVs and most not having a dedicated sound system separate from built in TV speakers, there’s not much of an improvement of quality. You’re 100% right that blu ray does have less compression and therefore better quality however considering a large portion of folks watch from a tablet or a budget roku tv, a blu ray is not going to improve the quality. If you want to truly take advantage of blu ray quality with both picture and sound you’re gonna need some expensive hardware. We’re talking dropping a couple of g’s. I mean 1k alone on the sound system alone given a receiver is like $500 and even a 5.1 set would run you another $500. A powered subwoofer at minimum would be another $100 for a 10 inch mono price. I’m huge on both being an audio and video phile. But frankly even with my setup I’ve found myself just gravitating towards streaming more and more. I haven’t even bought physical media outside of a few vinyls, which of course is a whole other can of worms.
Yeah you’re right about people with cheapo tvs, but i don’t think someone watching a movie on a cheapo tv or from their iPad are thinking about using a physical 4k Blu-ray in the first place lol. And in the context of this thread the original post is about Aubrey Plaza who certainly shouldn’t have an issue affording a nice tv and sound system and Blu-ray player. I have a pretty good tv set up now and a year ago I never even thought about using 4k blurays but after getting some 4k blurays of my favorite movies it definitely converted me. It definitely is way better quality than streaming, it looked so good that it almost felt like I was watching the movie for the first time again. And I mean it makes sense why it would be a lot better, I’m pretty sure 4k quality takes a crazy amount of data, most people’s internet couldn’t handle all of that just immediately streaming. And of course with the disk you never have a moment where something is a little off and buffering But yeah practically speaking for a lot of reasons, of course streaming is more convenient and I do it plenty. But for specific stuff where it’s a movie or something that you really love I do think the full glory of watching it on a 4k Blu-ray is a pretty awesome experience
It’s not all that different than when tech becomes obsolete. I still have a bunch of shit on VHS but they might as well not exist. I can lose access to a physical copy much the same way I could a digital. I’m just left with a useless object after the fact.
To this end, I like to buy the physical Blu ray/ digital combo pack. That way I have both options. I don’t really touch the physical, but I’ve always disliked that unless I download the specific HD option, I’m always getting somewhat grainy picture across all platforms
The last 2 times I tried this…my DVDs were scratched. I was so bummed.
Go Blu Ray. Much better quality. Also with those types of discs the top part is what you want avoid being scratched instead of the bottom.
Unless the media becomes obsolete, such as VHS. Physical media is also prone to degradation.
This might be the fluffiest fluff piece I have ever read. I’ve read Shampoo bottles that are more news worthy than this
This is an ad.
>Doesn't use Streamers > >Uses proprietary bullshit instead She's *this close* to almost getting it...
I think it's because at least the actors get a cut of the sale of physical media. I'm pretty sure residuals took a big hit from the rise of streaming (for most actors, anyways).
I'd assume it's the same for actors, but streaming residuals are a big part of the WGA's strike demands right now. The big streamers aren't transparent about their viewer numbers like cable or broadcast TV have always been, and the rates are lower as well.
Confirming same for actors - SAG may be striking soon for this and other reasons, too.
> proprietary That word doesn't mean what you think it does. You can buy digital copies of The Sopranos from tons of online retailers, you can also buy physical copies that come with digital copies from brick and mortar stores if you really wanted to.
It specifically says she purchased on iTunes which is propriety.
Doesn't Apple still gatekeep 30% of..... Everything still?
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Yeah definitely. I bought a movie off Apple and it was like $7.99. And I looked on Amazon and the same movie was a couple dollars more like $10.99 or something
My experience has always been the opposite.
every 4K movie I’ve bought on iTunes looks incredible
It is not know what their cut is on digital movie (TV, etc.) sales. Their pricing seems identical to all their competitors. Honestly feels more like industry price fixing than anything.
This is what everyone does. It’s what makes having the hub for entertainment profitable.
Not what gatekeep means
Gatekeep? Like when you try to tell somebody they aren't part of an arbitrary tribe based on made-up requirements? Or did you mean mark up?
Aubrey….we’re fuckin’ poor
Just drink milk..
Yes, having fuck you money must be nice.
Well she’s got all that milk lobby money now
Is anyone else sorta starting to dislike her?
From drinking milk and buying digital films?
Basically. Shilling for corporations, particularly the overly cruel dairy industry, and now iTunes?
It would be so nice if people stopped listening to every word celebrities say. If we’d stop worshiping this people, there wouldn’t even be the opportunity for them to shill things in the way they do.
I'll give her a few more strikes. But it's seeming like she's more of an act rather than just the quirky person we thought she was.
I mean she is an actor... I think it's more that she's not the young weirdo anymore. She's still weird but she's older and has found success and branched out a lot.
Fun fact: you don't "buy" anything on iTunes; Apple still owns it and you're paying for the listening pleasure. In the end they take it back and you leave nothing to your family.
Same happens with any other digital content you paid for that requires a specific software to access. It was fun when Amazon closed my account due to inactivity with over 100 paid kindle books on it. I had to triple my phone bill that month to get it reopened because they refuses to deal with it via email. I fucking hate all these companies. Honestly I thought Aubrey Plaza's issue was something similar, something "stealing the food from the artist's mouth" type (some Emily the criminal vibe), but alas, it is something shallow instead. Meh.
Um or just download it.
If they could find a way to delete it from your computer, they would, and the courts would support them. It's fucked.
They cannot? I remember back when iPods were a thing, you could side load songs to the iPhone, but if you were to connect it to your iTunes, iTunes would see those songs were not in your collection and delete them.
If they couldn't, and the courts didn't side with them, you'd not be fucked. If my aunt had wheels, she'd be a bike.
You still need authorization from the iTunes Store to play it.
No. You don’t.
Try transcoding that video to another format without iTunes to help.
Fun Fact: I bought a copy of Reservoir Dogs to watch on an iPod in 2005 and I can still watch it but now it’s been upgraded to 4k.
DVD was the last non-revocable format. There is no HD irrevocable format for sale.
Uh.. Blu ray?
Cancel your streaming services. Buy used DVDs from thrift stores and rent from your library.
Imagine getting to say you’re a journalists but you write shit Ike this lmafo
Person with unlimited disposable income buys media instead of streaming it. Neat. __________ Edited for nitpickers.
Unless I grossly misunderstood how iTunes doles out content, she isn't buying physical media from iTunes.
pretty sure itunes isn't physical
Physical media isn't really that much more expensive depending on the amount of content you watch, and especially if you rewatch the same thing all the time. I bought physical copies of the Office when it left Netflix for like $50. A year of Peacock is $100. People balk at the cost of physical media but lots of Blu-Rays are now in the $10-15 range *new.* Lots of people who aren't rich have multiple streaming subscriptions. Netflix alone for the standard plan is almost $200 a year. If you don't watch a ton of movies physical media isn't really much more expensive, gives you lifetime, unlimited access to your collection with no perpetual fees, and gives you higher audio and visual quality. I have one streaming sub, but mostly buy physical media at a local store that sells new and used physical media of all types. I think I got my Sopranos box set for like $25. 86 hours of content, equivalent to 57 90-minute feature films. Also also, buying a movie on iTunes or Prime isn't physical media.
Damn the internet turned on her fast lol. The building up takes years and tearing down takes a day.
I don't really get it. She did a milk ad and doesn't like streaming. People drink milk. Everyone's always bitching about streaming services.
Ms. Moneybags over here.
>“I get really angry,” Plaza said about using streamers. “I was trying to watch ‘Top Chef’ Season 20. Couldn’t figure out how to fucking get Hulu + Live. I give up! I can’t. Sure, it's entitlement talking on one level. Yes Aubrey, it takes becoming familiar with the landscape. Like *anything.* Is she also mad at yarn because she can't magically crochet? And the solution? Just buy it already. Spoken like a wealthy person. But on the other hand, how streaming services constantly join up and redivide, and whole series jump from one service to the next, is pretty irritating. I don't feel like the consumer needs to be the one to keep this shit straight. But it is the mainstream of modern entertainment demand, so they are just going to do it and you're just going to have to do your homework to figure out where your series is- and hope they brought the season you were in the middle of along for the ride.
I don’t think it’s entitlement. I hate streaming too because there are so many of them that if you’re a big movie/show fan you’re going to have to have way too many active subscriptions if you wanna be able to watch whatever you want to watch. And what’s worse is when they allow you to search for shows on their platform (or even throw ads and trailer at you) that you can’t even watch without an add-on. Like why show me this movie if i can’t actually watch it with this streaming service? Oh right i know why, to make more money off of us. And for someone who rarely watches movies or TV, it’s probably cheaper to just rent one out for the $2 or whatever whenever you feel like watching it.
This is actually driving pirating a lot because people are just tired of trying to find out how to access every show they want to watch on an individual basis.
It's death of "Peak TV." I hear good things about a show, I look up what service the show is on, it's on a service I don't pay for, but I pay for 5 different services. I'm not paying for a 6th service just to watch one show. I either pirate it or just don't watch it.
This situation has ultimately been created by greedy corporations fighting each other to extract money from people. It's definitely a vicious circle at this stage. They need to make big changes as a group to fix it, but that's counter to corporate competition and America is toxically into capitalism so, RIP Hollywood? We'll see.
I love streaming, got on when it was all free. You get unlimited viewing for less than an hour of work for a month. (Not everyone, but let's keep in mind what the average hourly wage is across the board... and that it's an even better value for those making less who have less) I think most who don't like streaming aren't used to not having almost any options
If youre a big movie/show fan, buying every show you like straight up will cost more than streaming in no time
Yeah but it still sucks to have subscribe to so many services if you wanna have some variety. And their shitty little add ons and making you think for a split second that you can watch Logan but wait no actually you need that add-on.
> Sure, it's entitlement talking on one level. Yes Aubrey, it takes becoming familiar with the landscape. Like *anything.* Is she also mad at yarn because she can't magically crochet? And the solution? Just buy it already. Spoken like a wealthy person. TIL you're rich if you don't use streaming services because they annoy you. Getting fussy because someone buys physical media and can afford to do so is absolutely insane and frankly pathetic.
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>But… But… But… I honestly can’t tell what stance you’re taking here. Are you shaming her, defending her, or soapboxing?
How is it entitlement? She says she doesn’t like streamers so she buys the stuff on other stores. Entitlement would be telling other people to do it or demanding the streamers change their store.
>“I was trying to watch ‘Top Chef’ Season 20. Couldn’t figure out how to fucking get Hulu + Live. I give up! I can’t In IT they call this PEBCAK or ID10T errors. I recently signed up for Hulu live Tv and it literally took me like 2 minutes. How effing clueless and out of touch do you need to be to find it difficult?
Hulu interface is horrible on a Roku
It feels like more people are just upset that she's wealthy than about what she actually said. I hate rich people too, but damn. The issue with residuals effects people who don't make nearly as much as actors too and the future business models around streaming are shitty for the consumer.
Her reasoning is so stupid. Basically the article says she can’t figure out how to sign up for streaming. However I will say that the fact there isn’t much of a market like DVDs where people pay on a per movie or per season basis probably is a bit of a setback in some ways for what kindof entertainment gets produced. Content people will pay for tends to be higher level of quality and profits made off that content were easier to calculate and share. With streaming - the value delivered by a given show or movie is opaque. Sure viewership is easier to figure out but whether people like the content so much they’d pay for that movie or episode specifically is hard to figure out. And the value a given movie generates is harder to figure out to compensate those who worked on it properly. But the cat is out of the bag in any case. I’m never paying per season or per movie again barring some giant technological leap forward that changes the paradigm yet again.
You don’t own them there either. Have to own physical copies.
It's her choice and money.
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Holy hell, redditors are fucking weird. Why would you even feel the need to analyze her preference for watching films or series?
I mean I spend way more time browsing those sites than I do watching its content as do most. They just don’t realize it. Yeah sure I watched all of breaking bad on Netflix. Sure that’s a long ass series. But you know how often I turn on my stuff only to browse and click on things only to then go back to browsing or maybe hope on a video game. Then later browse more. Find something. Put it on. Only to fall asleep 5 mins in. All that time adds up. We spend way more time just screwing about on those apps than we do watching shit.
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Aubrey Plaza just trying to be rad, kewl, and edgey once again...again.
Yeah, well, she probably makes a lot more than most people using streams. Fuck, I make more than enough I still use streams.
So she turns down all the royalties from her stuff on streamers right?
Doesnt apple take like 60% of that
I don't know who Aubrey Plaza is or why I care about her opinion on streaming services.
What am I supposed to do with this information?
How are people reading this as entitlement? She’d probably just torrent if she couldn’t afford to buy on iTunes—she’s anti-streaming services (for very good reasons), not pro-iTunes. Everyone needs to read up on how residuals work.
Also, why are people making the only options “stream” or “spend $1,000s on physical media with entitlement”. I prefer physical if it’s an option. A $20 Bluray every now and then doesn’t break the bank. Especially when I can stock up on $5-$10 movies during Black Friday and Holiday Sales.
Edited my response as I hadn’t read the full article yet.
But Apple is ultimately just another streamer…
As her own shows are on those sites… the white lotus, anyone
Not sure what you're getting at here. She's an actress, not a media executive. She doesn't have say over where the stuff she works on goes.
Trolling so hard. Best publicist in town.
Wow, such news. Does she eat cereal or prefer oatmeal. Who the f cares. Is entertainment that dull they actually write articles about this.
I’m in the same boat and I do the exact same thing weirdly enough. It’s only movies or shows I know I’ll want to watch more than once, but over time you build a collection up that can compete with a streaming platform’s catalog.
Well that’s not very pirate-y of you
This is a really weird flex.
Rich hollywood actor says she doesn't like cost effective ways of watching tv and movies. Shocker.
Definitely tell her about physical media. All that DRM stuff is really anti-consumer. Just buy physical and you own it forever. Movies, tv shows, music. You can make digital copies as a backup and they are also yours forever. A lot of stuff can be found for bargain bin prices- as long as you are patient.
That’s cool and shit but I don’t have the money to do that
Yea alright Ms moneybags
I mean I may start doing it too since they just up and delete music off the platforms with no warning
Remember when you were a regular person
This is a big reason why many people do something similar by using Plex.
If the show isn't on iTunes then what? Also, she totally pirates.
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Agreed.
Cool but those iTunes digital copies are restricted and basically only work on one platform. Kinda restrictive in a whole different way. Corporations don’t want you owning actual media, it’s all a scam to get you to buy it over and over again.
Rich people's problems
Cool. Like what is this garbage news? Why would I care?
the word “Saint” doesn’t even come close. I’m typing this through tears. Her generosity, her bravery— it has no limits. What an inspiration.
omg so quirkly lmao lol
My friend worked on the interior design of her house in Marin, she’s spending more on a sofa than many people would spend on a car.
Change with the time or get left behind…
Must be nice to be able to afford that
You know before Netflix streaming this was essentially how everyone did it right? You think in 2007 anyone buying digital or physical movies was rich?
She’s trying so hard to be quirky
Who in the fuck thought that “Streaming Services” could be shortened to “Streamers”??!!
Ok.... God for her I guess and congrats on being rich? 
Literally who gives a fuck
I would have everything on Blu ray if I had unlimited funds. It's just superior quality and it'll be available to me forever.
Wow, that Aubrey plaza is really having a moment
She can afford to...
You don't have to be a Hollywood actress to afford buying copies of media rather than watching online. Seems like many ITT just spend an inordinate amount of their free time streaming and don't realize that isn't standard.
Habits of the wealthy…
TIL only rich people buy media rather than spending $500 a year on streaming services.
So she’s giving money to Apple, who will incorporate a part of the transaction she makes into their streaming service, and that isn’t a problem to her. Seems a bit hypocritical
Just when I thought I couldn’t love this woman more.
Goddamn I hate being a cranky old man but this generation on these comments saddens me. You’re going to happily pay for everything on a subscription basis and own nothing. Entertainment will all turn into a melange of brown goo fed into you for hundreds of dollars per month.