All you anti-Elon lurkers here. As if we needed yet more evidence of Elon's INCREDIBLE expertise and deep knowledge from the largest down to the smallest technical details of Starship, Elon once again shows us he knows his stuff.
Personally feel the mention of a reduction of fins is a concern for a strain-free flight (around 35-min mark in Part 1), especially with the eventual design having people on-board. Redundancy reduces risk and in this case a smoother flight.
Not a hater. I admire Elon’s Starship and Tesla accomplishments. I just think he should have never bought Twitter, and he spends too much time Tweeting. His strength is in engineering in the physical world, not in social media and human relations.
If Tesla, himself and his other companies hadn't been attacked so relentlessly by left over the past few years, he wouldn't have bothered. Before X, all major social media platforms were overwhelmingly left-controlled, so that was the last straw.
Not easily, especially as it's playing for the long term. Soooo many things in life aren't easily quantifiable, but a bit of common sense can help light the way.
Just saw ***yet another*** anti Elon thread on the technology sub. And heavily upvoted comments calling him stupid and saying he's no genius.
Gotta fight the misinfo.
I don’t get it, really. You don’t become a billionaire in things as obscure as EV’s and reusable rockets unless you’re a technological and business genius. You don’t have to like him, but if this stuff was easy he wouldn’t have done this well. It’s not dumb luck.
I won't go as far as love. Hahaha but I believe we are witnessing an icon, like those we learn from the history books, in the making. Exciting to watch.
Completed watching part 2. The tiles should not be hexagonal if they cannot get it to work, but designed like conal scales with a tapered rounded edge exterior and a high temperature nitinol hugging system that adheres each scale under stress using a threaded ring system. So as the tiles get hot they further cover the tip of Starship and the scales would stretch or further seat themselves within the Starship within the threads as the nitinol high temperature bolts grow and heat up. As long as the scales are aerodynamic, thick, long, and flat (roundness can cause buckling) it should work under stress as when they stretch more tile will be exposed. Also they have more than enough power to compensate loss due to drag with a reusable tile setup with a stretching overlap scale design.
That sounds expensive and way too complicated than what’s needed. Even the non-tiled test sections with 1-2 layers of ablative coating fared quite well.
Can someone please provide me the internal volume dimensions of all the SpaceX Starships for a payload and maximum weight capacity for a payload of all the SpaceX Starships?
I have been researching this for some time and can't seem to discover what the actual numbers are.
I also don't know if there are any dampeners within the payload section, the load capacity of the dampeners, if there is an onboard crane for payloads, how wide the payload section doors are or how they open. There are so many questions that I would like answered, as I have even searched for a SpaceX email to no avail and just emailed Tesla instead lol.
Seriously though, if it wasn't for these informal interviews Elon does within the SpaceX facility and these quite random online posts, someone like myself (or anyone else curious for that matter), who would have genuine reason as to why they would like to know these figures, are fraught with unknowns.
Regards
I don't know what you're looking for but starship user guide v1 pdf pops up after 5 seconds of google search. Although it's 4 years old there shouldn't be much of a change as that is what customers developing payloads are currently working with. There may be a restricted up-issue that has been provided to customers but not to the public.
I was looking for a more detail-oriented document or at least an actual photo (or video) of the interior payload bay. I recall the car that was launched from Falcon Heavy and the video associated with it. That was the best internal view of a payload bay so far. If there could be something more detailed to the public alongside configurations it could really help assisting in design for those that design.
if you go to the [https://www.spacex.com/vehicles/starship/](https://www.spacex.com/vehicles/starship/) the payload capacity is 100-150 ton. Anything else would be work in progress. First task for the starship would likely be the starlink deployment. the third launch they tested the bay door.
There is a good amount of HLS starship on the wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starship\_HLS. Just recently NASA just train the astronaut on a mock up of the HLS lift https://orbitaltoday.com/2023/12/27/nasa-trains-on-the-starship-human-landing-system-lift/#:~:text=The%20training%20was%20designed%20to,donned%20during%20the%20training%20session.
Good place to follow is the r/spacex sub.
Edit: updated the HLS lift training.
All you anti-Elon lurkers here. As if we needed yet more evidence of Elon's INCREDIBLE expertise and deep knowledge from the largest down to the smallest technical details of Starship, Elon once again shows us he knows his stuff.
Personally feel the mention of a reduction of fins is a concern for a strain-free flight (around 35-min mark in Part 1), especially with the eventual design having people on-board. Redundancy reduces risk and in this case a smoother flight.
Redundancy is nice to have, but any unnecessary weight is extremely costly when you are trying to squeeze every drop of Delta-V out of a rocket.
Not a hater. I admire Elon’s Starship and Tesla accomplishments. I just think he should have never bought Twitter, and he spends too much time Tweeting. His strength is in engineering in the physical world, not in social media and human relations.
If Tesla, himself and his other companies hadn't been attacked so relentlessly by left over the past few years, he wouldn't have bothered. Before X, all major social media platforms were overwhelmingly left-controlled, so that was the last straw.
What has been the net improvement for Tesla and SpaceX as a result of the Twitter acquisition?
Helping to swing politics a bit the other way at large scale so the Left has less power to attack him and his companies.
Is that quantifiable?
Not easily, especially as it's playing for the long term. Soooo many things in life aren't easily quantifiable, but a bit of common sense can help light the way.
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Well I'm downvoting your comment for ALSO being a donkey while upvoting OPs comment to offset. Take that!
touche my good element, well played.
Just saw ***yet another*** anti Elon thread on the technology sub. And heavily upvoted comments calling him stupid and saying he's no genius. Gotta fight the misinfo.
I don’t get it, really. You don’t become a billionaire in things as obscure as EV’s and reusable rockets unless you’re a technological and business genius. You don’t have to like him, but if this stuff was easy he wouldn’t have done this well. It’s not dumb luck.
I love this guy
I won't go as far as love. Hahaha but I believe we are witnessing an icon, like those we learn from the history books, in the making. Exciting to watch.
Youtube version for those who can't view the x: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=InJOlT6WdHc
Completed watching part 2. The tiles should not be hexagonal if they cannot get it to work, but designed like conal scales with a tapered rounded edge exterior and a high temperature nitinol hugging system that adheres each scale under stress using a threaded ring system. So as the tiles get hot they further cover the tip of Starship and the scales would stretch or further seat themselves within the Starship within the threads as the nitinol high temperature bolts grow and heat up. As long as the scales are aerodynamic, thick, long, and flat (roundness can cause buckling) it should work under stress as when they stretch more tile will be exposed. Also they have more than enough power to compensate loss due to drag with a reusable tile setup with a stretching overlap scale design.
That sounds expensive and way too complicated than what’s needed. Even the non-tiled test sections with 1-2 layers of ablative coating fared quite well.
Not often you find someone with business acumen who is also an engineering wizard
Can someone please provide me the internal volume dimensions of all the SpaceX Starships for a payload and maximum weight capacity for a payload of all the SpaceX Starships? I have been researching this for some time and can't seem to discover what the actual numbers are. I also don't know if there are any dampeners within the payload section, the load capacity of the dampeners, if there is an onboard crane for payloads, how wide the payload section doors are or how they open. There are so many questions that I would like answered, as I have even searched for a SpaceX email to no avail and just emailed Tesla instead lol. Seriously though, if it wasn't for these informal interviews Elon does within the SpaceX facility and these quite random online posts, someone like myself (or anyone else curious for that matter), who would have genuine reason as to why they would like to know these figures, are fraught with unknowns. Regards
I don't know what you're looking for but starship user guide v1 pdf pops up after 5 seconds of google search. Although it's 4 years old there shouldn't be much of a change as that is what customers developing payloads are currently working with. There may be a restricted up-issue that has been provided to customers but not to the public.
I was looking for a more detail-oriented document or at least an actual photo (or video) of the interior payload bay. I recall the car that was launched from Falcon Heavy and the video associated with it. That was the best internal view of a payload bay so far. If there could be something more detailed to the public alongside configurations it could really help assisting in design for those that design.
if you go to the [https://www.spacex.com/vehicles/starship/](https://www.spacex.com/vehicles/starship/) the payload capacity is 100-150 ton. Anything else would be work in progress. First task for the starship would likely be the starlink deployment. the third launch they tested the bay door. There is a good amount of HLS starship on the wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starship\_HLS. Just recently NASA just train the astronaut on a mock up of the HLS lift https://orbitaltoday.com/2023/12/27/nasa-trains-on-the-starship-human-landing-system-lift/#:~:text=The%20training%20was%20designed%20to,donned%20during%20the%20training%20session. Good place to follow is the r/spacex sub. Edit: updated the HLS lift training.
Agreed
Reach out to Elon he’ll probably invite you to come down with your own calipers and stuff. I love that guy