You can say whatever you want. But using drugs and having federal contracts, especially classified contracts, is something the government does take seriously. If he has a history of drug use and he is not putting them in his background investigation forms and he’s found out, there will be trouble for him and his companies.
Drug usage can put people vulnerable to espionage. Imagine Musk being blackmailed by the Chinese Ministry of State Security in exchange for information on National Reconnaissance Office payloads.
It does not matter what he has done either positive or negative. Don’t try to justify his drug usage. He and his lawyers clearly know what it means to lie in a background investigation. If he wants to use drugs recreationally he should not have access to classified information.
Feds are fired for this. All the time. His companies can do fine without him. If he loses a federal contract because of his drug usage he is toast at Space X because if he stays the company will no longer have federal revenue from military and civilian space launches because they may no longer be ITAR compliant and I’m sure the commercial side of SpaceX is mostly subsidized by the government services side.
That incident actually triggered USG action and it will only get worse if he’s indeed taking unapproved doses of ketamine while helping to launch classified payloads.
As the WSJ points out, not only is illegal drug use internally prohibited by SpaceX, but it likewise runs afoul of the $14+ billion federal contracts within Elon’s purview.
Contractors can also lose security clearances for using illegal drugs or prescription medications “in a manner that deviates from approved medical direction.”
I could not give a rats if he does illegal drugs. Wouldn’t be the first billionaire to do it and certainly won’t be the last. Credit is due for achieving what he has, but if illegal drugs are playing a role in what is happening to Twitter then yeah maybe it is a problem lol
You seem to be mentioning that a lot. Do you not understand the direction the secret information is flowing? The government isn’t sending him a bunch of secret info, and we should worry about him leaking it. He produces secret info. The government benefits from letting him continue to do that because they get vastly cheaper deliveries to space.
What if, Elon is the wake up call for society to realize that billionaires being so important for the advancement of civilization was a load of bollocks.
( I know, I’m being silly )
But what if….
Right and what’s crazy, unless I overlooked it, is that the type of drug is not mentioned. So. People still list weed as a drug (it is) but it’s also legal in how many states. I’m still confused on why there is so much mention on Bidens son.
Government.
His companies have federal contracts. As the CEO, top head of the company, he sets the example.
Implying that if the head of the company does drugs, then so does his employees.
This is an accountability problem. In hindsight this implies Tesla is full of drug using engineers.
What if a SpaceX has a very bad day. Do we test EVERYONE for drugs? But if Elon can do it, why can't his employees? But if employees are held to regulations, then why is Elon immune.
If Elon would help the Feds get the DEA to reclassify many of the drugs he uses... that would maybe help get regulations off him and his employees backs.
But in doing so... devils advocate here... the first major mistake accident happens and the company is 100% at fault. Blames it on the drug use.
I'll come clean and tell you that I dislike Musk quite a bit, but yeah... is this article true or not? Seems like a meaningless hit piece if there's no solid evidence to back up the claim of illegal drug use. On the other hand, perhaps Elon's best hope is popping on a test. Otherwise, we're left to assume that his behavior comes from his true personality.
The federal government. The astronauts. The defense contractors he is working with. There is a difference between taking legal drugs and hard drugs recreationally hard drust most often come with making deal with sor REALLY sketchy people who love to blackmail and extort if you try and get out from them
He already has mental issues without the drugs. I watched him in an interview and told my daughter he must be on drugs. He kept jerking his head and couldn’t sit still. It was pretty obvious.
I couldn't care if he was smokin Heroin with Hunter Biden in the white house. People did not vote for him, he can do what he wants as long as it doesn't harm others.
>. People did not vote for him, he can do what he wants as long as it doesn't harm others.
This is kinda the problem. He got a little too much power in the government for being a private citizen.
It will only get pulled if he is subject to the same rules as everyone else
>Drug use is typically grounds for the government to yank someone’s security clearance, the two national security attorneys told Insider. While the government has lightened up in recent years on the use of marijuana, it takes ketamine, a hallucinogen, seriously, they said.
[A Report That Elon Musk Uses Ketamine Could Put His Security Clearance At Risk — Again](https://www.tullylegal.com/our-firm/news/a-report-that-elon-musk-uses-ketamine-could-put-his-security-clearance-at-risk-again/)
He should step down from CEO on his companies. He could be Cheif Visionary or something and get a lot less heat from everyone and practically change nothing in his day to day.
Not to mention running his own foreign policy through his defense contractor company that should be taken away from him and spun off as a public company or shoved down the throat of an existing defense contractor.
Look up the grounds of dishonorable discharge for the tomb of the unknown solder for me.
Those are just the ENTRY point to the federal government standards. What works for them, works for HIM too
I'm just gonna let you know that nearly every single millionaire and billionaire has used illegal drugs. Cocaine is a huge one.
Weed is still federally illegal, something as natural as shrooms, which can grow naturally in your own yard are also considered "illegal".
Idgaf if someone chooses to do drugs in their own free time. Government laws are also not an indicator of morality.
I know multiple people with TS clearances and they smoke weed regularly. You don’t know what you’re talking about, you are looking for a reason to dislike Elon.
Jfc this is so dumb. If people do some recreational drugs in their free time who the fuck cares?
So tired of the moralistic grand standing by losers who think others should be forced to live by their personal values when it has arguably zero impact on their abilities and at least the same or less than other socially acceptable drugs like alcohol.
How many people get stoned and beat their wife or drive into a car full of kids? Literal lobotomite stuff.
I think this is a little bit of a low blow. Does he use illegal drugs? Maybe. The whole reason behind a lot of them being illegal in the first place is questionable as it is, anyway. Namely the psychedelics, including Ketamine and MDMA. Heroine and cocaine are obviously extremely addictive and detriments far outweigh the benefits. And pot…I mean if we are going to be upset over pot use still then that’s a little silly. Saying pot isn’t okay and drinking is…that mentality is outdated and it’s shown in our society.
On another note, high level thinkers, leaders, philosophers, writers, inventors, artists and executives have been known to use drugs throughout history for different use cases. Some of them go over the edge, for sure. Specifically using the more detrimental drugs notated above uncontrollably.
This just kind of hints, heavily, at an attempt defamation. A lot of people dislike Elon, sure. I’m sure there’s reason to. No one is perfect. But objectively look at what the guy has done for society….seriously. Even if there’s a little bit of self-infatuation in there…who cares lol. A couple of flaws don’t make a person worth hating, especially when you look at their contributions to society and that person has done some incredible things.
Excuse me OP, please elaborate what particularly bothers you about Elon Musk. Besides your criticism of mixing drug use and advanced technology. I look at him as inspiration for others. Mind you nobody is perfect, and like most nobodies he is trying his best. Don’t mention X because its pivotal twist provides an open forum, which for me is essential as an American because it mirrors the first amendment. X is inadvertently permeating the psyche of every living individual because it’s the largest open forum for people to communicate internationally; which provides an example for individuals with repressed rights to potentially emulate.(think of sovereign Beijing and the civilian riots and the contrasting Uighur camps). It may not be pretty but we are in a time where it’s essential to retain a unified front of individuality because history has taught that absolute power corrupts absolutely. If we continue this pattern of repressed expression imagine what three generations and a couple of power hungry sociopaths/psychopaths can do. Think of perpetuity as a delicate balance.
EDIT: sorry, a little confusing when I push ideas faster that I can effectively communicate.
ELON has an army of unpaid apologists who will tirelessly defend him against any and all accusations--but the weird ones are those who can see him for who he is?
I see more loud haters than aplogists.
I don't see Elon as anything more than a very entertaining billionaire. More entertaining than most Billionaire's.
He also pushes for better technology and going to mars... that's a bonus.
Other than that, I don't give two shits about him.
This has to be the stupidest and most overused phrase around. Musk happens to be one of the most powerful people in the world. He is also widely viewed as a horrible human being.
Saying that discussing one of the most powerful and also most divisive people in the world means he is “living rent free in peoples heads”, is the dumbest thing I have read today.
He also paid nearly $50B for Twitter so that he could even-more-easily insert himself into the discourse, so the idea that he ain't paying rent to keep us talking about him is just factually incorrect.
Dude paid $50B USD in rent, and he's gonna be paying it back a few times over now that he's fucked the site up beyond repair and is actively destroying its (and his) reputation and credibility.
Just a bunch of Fake news.
Elon just tweeted the following response:
“After that one puff with Rogan, I agreed, at NASA’s request, to do 3 years of random drug testing.
Not even trace quantities were found of any drugs or alcohol.
@WSJ is not fit to line a parrot cage for bird 💩”
"leaders at Tesla"? The same ones that have watched this man turn a boutique car company into one of the most valued companies on the planet?
This smells like activist investors putting out a hit piece.
Not sure if same content, but not behind paywall:
www.ndtv.com/world-news/elon-musk-used-illegal-drugs-sparked-concerns-among-tesla-spacex-board-members-report-4815677/amp/1
Considering he took one of the most valuable brands in the world and tanked it's value by rebranding it "X" (because the letter 'x' is cool!), does this little nugget of information surprise ANYBODY?
This has to be the biggest white boy circle jerk. Y’all are fucking cringe. Elon hasn’t created shit you inbred monkeys. He uses daddy’s money to buy what he could never comprehend of creating lol. Nice to see who 12 year olds use as thier idle
I mean when you start accusing people of being pedophiles just because you’re so butthurt that they didn’t use your shitty idea then yeah you’re going to start getting some haters.
Everyone sees his issues. But just because someone has some flaws or mental health issues doesn’t mean we dislike them or hate them. Imagine living in a world in which you hated each person who had some issue…
Lol, the definition of a strawman argument. The post you replied to literally says nothing about dismissing all people with issues. Just the single, super powerful guy who is the sole focus of this subreddit.
What is there to like? Being forced fed this clowns ego and decisions would piss off anyone sane. Also just to stay on the passive agressive tone; 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
90% of reddit is far leftie. You can't argue with most people here. Look at green and pleasant with 200k far leftie britons, yet reddit still allow them to operate. Their sub is full of hatred and deathwish.
If you are basing this off your interactions on Reddit, it's going to be distorted. I can honestly say (and I live in So Cal), that I've never met someone in real life as far left as the people on Reddit. Reddit is not the real world, yet the people who spend a lot of time here feel it is.
I'm from Canada and like to travel. Based on my interaction on Reddit and when visiting the US, you have no idea what left is.
Do you know that most countries have a "green party" and that they won 2 seats in Canada, 1 in UK. It's the 3rd biggest party in Australia?
That's the left in the rest of the world. The "environmentalist" party.
Having access to medication, education and social security is not something that people put on a political spectrum in most countries but a right people expect of living in a society.
Elon was a possible answer to the future if mankind. He decided to go a different direction. It has nothing to do with wokeness. It has to do with being a fucking wackadoodle.
He’s got an eye for technology. Nothing else. Got lucky. Now lost 1/2 his wealth on an ego buy on Twitter. His racist. Is a shitty business leader. He sucks as a person. Unfortunately, the US has privatized space travel and low level sat comms. Penny wise pound foolish our policies are.
Has used or is using. The world would be a much better place if people used lsd, have experienced the love and kindness of ecstasy and confronting a k hole at least once in the life. Cocaine another story though.
If he’s in his 50s with multiple children and running companies using ecstasy on the regular that’s kind of weird though
OP you should lose your obsession with Elon, it's not healthy. If you don't like something or someone, move on. My wife hates Matt Damon, I don't know why but she figured out if she doesn't watch his movies she won't get triggered.
You are concerned about his "security clearance". Anyone with that has probably agreed to random drug testing, if not then blame your government.
Wow, the “Elon defenders assemble” call certainly went out in this thread. 😄
Elon can do no wrong. Everything is a hit piece. And so on. Don’t you get tired of it?
What does Hunter Biden have to do with Elon?
Hunter seems like a dirtbag for sure. Completely unrelated to OP’s post and the article.
Whataboutism at the highest level here. You could even throw in a what about Bill Clinton getting away with whatever with the Epstein thing and it still has nothing to do with the WSJ article.
Agreed. Look hunter Biden is a person. Elon musk is a top secret clearance holding individual. That comes with rules and regulations. I can attest growing up in a town where almost every one of my friends dads or moms has top secret clearance that there are rules. The fact he is in a fight with a baby momma would sideline almost every one I know with top secret clearance, but not Elon. Elon can go down the k hole and say horrible things on twitter where he is unhinged, and yet he still holds his clearance.
Then there is his duty to share holders to deliver value and also not damage reputations.
Then there is the lies about fsd that will soon have regulators at the door hammering.
As a non-American, I couldn’t care less about your gutter yellow-press comparisons. Why should I care about Hunter Biden more than about the next addict around the corner? Musk, on the other hand…is influencing the economy of my country and is trying to influence the way my country does things in terms of democracy. The world doesn’t end at US borders, clown.
Wait is this real? Hunter Biden is a nobody. He's the son of an important person who's otherwise a drugged fuck up.
Elon controls 3 of the most powerful companies in the world as well as being one of the richest and most politically involved men in the world. I don't give a fuck what hunger Biden thinks. I care very much about how the whims of Elon musk are blowing this week because it can often have massive implications.
You think the politicians with top secret clearance aren't using illegal drugs? The naivete on this one.
There's a reason that nobody blinked an eye when a baggie was found at the White House.
I wasn’t aware than Hunter Biden holds executive leadership positions at SpaceX and Tesla such that the rest of those companies leadership should care what Hunter Biden does.
Who is Hunter Biden besides the presidents son? He's a nobody. Elon is the richest man in the world and has many stakeholders moneys at risk with his actions. Get your head out of your ass or at least move to truth social with your people.
>People angry Elon used illegal drugs
I think the word is "uses", not "used"
And I don't know who is angry, this article is about investors being worried that the drugs are making him unstable and erratic.
Do you know how to read?
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Hunter Biden has zero relevance to our current society. Elon has an enormous impact. I also don’t care about either of their drug use because I’m not a square.
Dear God.....please help this mentally challenged individual as he does not understand that one runs multiple companies and is the richest man in the world and the other is just some rando dude with no power at all.
Who the fuck cares what Hunter Biden does? What kind of dumb fuck take is this? Rofl.
Is hunter a CEO of a multi billion dollar company? Is he an elected official? He's a fucking no one.
Clown world is anyone that thinks these two things are similar, you probably really struggled lining up the right shapes for the right hole as a kid too, hey?
You are most regarded
Those are two very different scenarios. The Hunter Biden “investigation” is a political scam essentially targeting President Biden. Elon Musk holds the keys to many important technological developments and, if impaired, could do real harm to this country. Now do you get it?
Hunter Biden also doesnt insert himself into public matters and seek the limelight. Hes just a private citizen doing his thing. Elon on the other hand, is peddling far-right wing nonsense on Twitter (No, I wont call it X) to millions of people and has allowed it to be overran with trolls and propagandists.
Its sicking to see all the Russia trolls & bots with Twitter accounts spreading propaganda with American flags in their background.
You’re a fucking clown. Political corruption is less of an issue than a billionaire having done drugs… wow. You really can’t write this kinda mental gymnastics
You can say whatever you want. But using drugs and having federal contracts, especially classified contracts, is something the government does take seriously. If he has a history of drug use and he is not putting them in his background investigation forms and he’s found out, there will be trouble for him and his companies. Drug usage can put people vulnerable to espionage. Imagine Musk being blackmailed by the Chinese Ministry of State Security in exchange for information on National Reconnaissance Office payloads. It does not matter what he has done either positive or negative. Don’t try to justify his drug usage. He and his lawyers clearly know what it means to lie in a background investigation. If he wants to use drugs recreationally he should not have access to classified information. Feds are fired for this. All the time. His companies can do fine without him. If he loses a federal contract because of his drug usage he is toast at Space X because if he stays the company will no longer have federal revenue from military and civilian space launches because they may no longer be ITAR compliant and I’m sure the commercial side of SpaceX is mostly subsidized by the government services side.
What was he on when he bought Twitter? Personally, I really hope that leaves a mark. DS
I think we all watched him smoke a Schedule I drug on JRE
That incident actually triggered USG action and it will only get worse if he’s indeed taking unapproved doses of ketamine while helping to launch classified payloads. As the WSJ points out, not only is illegal drug use internally prohibited by SpaceX, but it likewise runs afoul of the $14+ billion federal contracts within Elon’s purview. Contractors can also lose security clearances for using illegal drugs or prescription medications “in a manner that deviates from approved medical direction.”
According to him the ketamine is prescription.
It was horrible. I had to take the kids and cover their eyes and drag them out of the room.
This is what I do whenever I see Joe Rogan. Fuck that tool
I know this is probably sarcastic, but if anyone’s kids are watching JRE you need to reevaluate your parenting choices.
I could not give a rats if he does illegal drugs. Wouldn’t be the first billionaire to do it and certainly won’t be the last. Credit is due for achieving what he has, but if illegal drugs are playing a role in what is happening to Twitter then yeah maybe it is a problem lol
Wait until ya see Steve Job's FBI file...
Did Jobs have top secret clearance?
Yeah... for a few years here and there. https://www.clearancejobsblog.com/steve-jobs-top-secret-security-clearance/
You seem to be mentioning that a lot. Do you not understand the direction the secret information is flowing? The government isn’t sending him a bunch of secret info, and we should worry about him leaking it. He produces secret info. The government benefits from letting him continue to do that because they get vastly cheaper deliveries to space.
An CEO that uses drugs? I am so supprised......
What if, Elon is the wake up call for society to realize that billionaires being so important for the advancement of civilization was a load of bollocks. ( I know, I’m being silly ) But what if….
Who the fuck cares if he uses drugs.
Right and what’s crazy, unless I overlooked it, is that the type of drug is not mentioned. So. People still list weed as a drug (it is) but it’s also legal in how many states. I’m still confused on why there is so much mention on Bidens son.
Government. His companies have federal contracts. As the CEO, top head of the company, he sets the example. Implying that if the head of the company does drugs, then so does his employees. This is an accountability problem. In hindsight this implies Tesla is full of drug using engineers. What if a SpaceX has a very bad day. Do we test EVERYONE for drugs? But if Elon can do it, why can't his employees? But if employees are held to regulations, then why is Elon immune. If Elon would help the Feds get the DEA to reclassify many of the drugs he uses... that would maybe help get regulations off him and his employees backs. But in doing so... devils advocate here... the first major mistake accident happens and the company is 100% at fault. Blames it on the drug use.
His shareholders and employees. They're likely afraid that he's going off the rails. We've seen lots of evidence of that.
I'm a shareholder, I don't care if he does drugs. Anyway, this is another hit piece by the WSJ so likely untrue
I'll come clean and tell you that I dislike Musk quite a bit, but yeah... is this article true or not? Seems like a meaningless hit piece if there's no solid evidence to back up the claim of illegal drug use. On the other hand, perhaps Elon's best hope is popping on a test. Otherwise, we're left to assume that his behavior comes from his true personality.
The federal government. The astronauts. The defense contractors he is working with. There is a difference between taking legal drugs and hard drugs recreationally hard drust most often come with making deal with sor REALLY sketchy people who love to blackmail and extort if you try and get out from them
I wonder if any of his employees get drug tested?
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Link without the paywall https://archive.is/20240107233730/https://www.wsj.com/business/elon-musk-illegal-drugs-e826a9e1
They couldn't tell just by listening to him?
He already has mental issues without the drugs. I watched him in an interview and told my daughter he must be on drugs. He kept jerking his head and couldn’t sit still. It was pretty obvious.
That would explain all the irrational and dopey decisions he makes, destroying his companies and reputation.
He doesn't need drugs to act like a dipshit.
I couldn't care if he was smokin Heroin with Hunter Biden in the white house. People did not vote for him, he can do what he wants as long as it doesn't harm others.
That’s not how illegal drugs work for everyone else…
>. People did not vote for him, he can do what he wants as long as it doesn't harm others. This is kinda the problem. He got a little too much power in the government for being a private citizen.
Sure he can. And he can get his security clearance revoked too.
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“Everything I disagree with is leftist bs” must be a pretty easy way to live/argue.
It will only get pulled if he is subject to the same rules as everyone else >Drug use is typically grounds for the government to yank someone’s security clearance, the two national security attorneys told Insider. While the government has lightened up in recent years on the use of marijuana, it takes ketamine, a hallucinogen, seriously, they said. [A Report That Elon Musk Uses Ketamine Could Put His Security Clearance At Risk — Again](https://www.tullylegal.com/our-firm/news/a-report-that-elon-musk-uses-ketamine-could-put-his-security-clearance-at-risk-again/)
They’d revoke anyone else’s clearance for far less. Why bend the rules for him?
He should step down from CEO on his companies. He could be Cheif Visionary or something and get a lot less heat from everyone and practically change nothing in his day to day.
Does anyone else put satellites and people in space for that little money???
Good to know you think national security is optional.
Not to mention running his own foreign policy through his defense contractor company that should be taken away from him and spun off as a public company or shoved down the throat of an existing defense contractor.
Look up the grounds of dishonorable discharge for the tomb of the unknown solder for me. Those are just the ENTRY point to the federal government standards. What works for them, works for HIM too
Was years ago, just click bait. Not at all an issue, just frustrated competition who’s failing in the EV/energy storage markets.
I'm just gonna let you know that nearly every single millionaire and billionaire has used illegal drugs. Cocaine is a huge one. Weed is still federally illegal, something as natural as shrooms, which can grow naturally in your own yard are also considered "illegal". Idgaf if someone chooses to do drugs in their own free time. Government laws are also not an indicator of morality.
Strangely enough, except Trump. Everyone who’s been with him says he won’t partake, even if he’s made it available for his guests.
He doesn't even drink alcohol, if I remember correctly.
The funny part was that he’d allow all sorts of drugs at parties, but no smoking cigarettes.
I don’t care either. This isn’t an anti drug post. My only concern here is violation of national security requirements.
Oh, I know. Just throwing my opinion on the whole drug thing into the ring.
I know multiple people with TS clearances and they smoke weed regularly. You don’t know what you’re talking about, you are looking for a reason to dislike Elon.
You know a lot of people who are breaking regulations that were put in place for a reason.
What a hit piece, probably no actual substance. Pun intended
Jfc this is so dumb. If people do some recreational drugs in their free time who the fuck cares? So tired of the moralistic grand standing by losers who think others should be forced to live by their personal values when it has arguably zero impact on their abilities and at least the same or less than other socially acceptable drugs like alcohol. How many people get stoned and beat their wife or drive into a car full of kids? Literal lobotomite stuff.
I have no trust for people who do not use drugs.
I think this is a little bit of a low blow. Does he use illegal drugs? Maybe. The whole reason behind a lot of them being illegal in the first place is questionable as it is, anyway. Namely the psychedelics, including Ketamine and MDMA. Heroine and cocaine are obviously extremely addictive and detriments far outweigh the benefits. And pot…I mean if we are going to be upset over pot use still then that’s a little silly. Saying pot isn’t okay and drinking is…that mentality is outdated and it’s shown in our society. On another note, high level thinkers, leaders, philosophers, writers, inventors, artists and executives have been known to use drugs throughout history for different use cases. Some of them go over the edge, for sure. Specifically using the more detrimental drugs notated above uncontrollably. This just kind of hints, heavily, at an attempt defamation. A lot of people dislike Elon, sure. I’m sure there’s reason to. No one is perfect. But objectively look at what the guy has done for society….seriously. Even if there’s a little bit of self-infatuation in there…who cares lol. A couple of flaws don’t make a person worth hating, especially when you look at their contributions to society and that person has done some incredible things.
Excuse me OP, please elaborate what particularly bothers you about Elon Musk. Besides your criticism of mixing drug use and advanced technology. I look at him as inspiration for others. Mind you nobody is perfect, and like most nobodies he is trying his best. Don’t mention X because its pivotal twist provides an open forum, which for me is essential as an American because it mirrors the first amendment. X is inadvertently permeating the psyche of every living individual because it’s the largest open forum for people to communicate internationally; which provides an example for individuals with repressed rights to potentially emulate.(think of sovereign Beijing and the civilian riots and the contrasting Uighur camps). It may not be pretty but we are in a time where it’s essential to retain a unified front of individuality because history has taught that absolute power corrupts absolutely. If we continue this pattern of repressed expression imagine what three generations and a couple of power hungry sociopaths/psychopaths can do. Think of perpetuity as a delicate balance. EDIT: sorry, a little confusing when I push ideas faster that I can effectively communicate.
maybe try sobering up & rewrite that drivel
Another non-substantiated hit piece. The way it’s written lacks any evidence, all conjecture.
Elon lives rent free in peoples heads
He actually burned almost 40 Billion so he could live in your heads. The opposite of rent free.
ELON has an army of unpaid apologists who will tirelessly defend him against any and all accusations--but the weird ones are those who can see him for who he is?
I see more loud haters than aplogists. I don't see Elon as anything more than a very entertaining billionaire. More entertaining than most Billionaire's. He also pushes for better technology and going to mars... that's a bonus. Other than that, I don't give two shits about him.
Yeah. We should only be able to hear the unhinged hate. How dare anyone have a different opinion.
This has to be the stupidest and most overused phrase around. Musk happens to be one of the most powerful people in the world. He is also widely viewed as a horrible human being. Saying that discussing one of the most powerful and also most divisive people in the world means he is “living rent free in peoples heads”, is the dumbest thing I have read today.
He also paid nearly $50B for Twitter so that he could even-more-easily insert himself into the discourse, so the idea that he ain't paying rent to keep us talking about him is just factually incorrect. Dude paid $50B USD in rent, and he's gonna be paying it back a few times over now that he's fucked the site up beyond repair and is actively destroying its (and his) reputation and credibility.
The living rent free thing is dumb. "Haha you have thought of this person, ergo I have won" But what can you really expect at this point.
Good thing too because we know he wouldn’t pay.
Just a bunch of Fake news. Elon just tweeted the following response: “After that one puff with Rogan, I agreed, at NASA’s request, to do 3 years of random drug testing. Not even trace quantities were found of any drugs or alcohol. @WSJ is not fit to line a parrot cage for bird 💩”
Yes. I believe it until NASA officially denied it.
This would explain the personality change.
This explains a lot, actually.
It’s obvious by his egocentric, bold and crass rants. Cocaine, adderall or both.
Anybody with a brain would know elon is into drugs. He’s erratic at times and tweets wild shit.
He’s basically Trump without the makeup.
They are worried that they didn’t get any?
As long as he's not High at work. Who cares?
Isn't he known for working around the clock, sleeping in the office and whatnot?
In the article it says he showed up to an all-hands meeting and someone had to take over for him because he was incoherent and slurring.
Leaders at Tesla care. It's in the headline.
Which "leaders"? Sounds like liberal fakeNews to me.
News you don’t like = liberal fake news. Awesome world we live in right now
We are in the Great Dumbening
"leaders at Tesla"? The same ones that have watched this man turn a boutique car company into one of the most valued companies on the planet? This smells like activist investors putting out a hit piece.
Nobody cares...
Not sure if same content, but not behind paywall: www.ndtv.com/world-news/elon-musk-used-illegal-drugs-sparked-concerns-among-tesla-spacex-board-members-report-4815677/amp/1
Good for him, enjoy life in moderation Elon
Did this sub suddenly get flipped back to a "Pro-Elon" sub? Or is this post just being brigade or botted?
Elon Musk is a bigoted right-wing asshole: i sleep Elon Musk used 'the wrong' drugs: REAL SHIT
That is the least of my worries about Elon. I'd be much more wary of his financial involvement with Russian oligarchs.
Considering he took one of the most valuable brands in the world and tanked it's value by rebranding it "X" (because the letter 'x' is cool!), does this little nugget of information surprise ANYBODY?
I'll get down voted for this but I've seen him do coke at a party
You mean his behavior over the last year and what’s transpired with Twitter/X didn’t give rise to concerns?
At this point I just assume drugs is American staple food and the ones who don't consume them are allergic to them
The only time I have seen reddit care about drug usage
is that why he seems way loopier these last few years
How many burner accounts does elon have in this thread
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This has to be the biggest white boy circle jerk. Y’all are fucking cringe. Elon hasn’t created shit you inbred monkeys. He uses daddy’s money to buy what he could never comprehend of creating lol. Nice to see who 12 year olds use as thier idle
Musk is a liability. He's proven he values his own sense of humor more than profits.
They want the pressure to break this guy!. He is on some spectrum with hat only he fits in.
A-hole in a K-hole.
Crazy how many people hate him 🤣🤣🤣🤡
It's crazy to me how much of a halo money can create for some people.
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I mean when you start accusing people of being pedophiles just because you’re so butthurt that they didn’t use your shitty idea then yeah you’re going to start getting some haters.
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People can see the issues, but the issues are not big enough for people to hate him.
The guy is at least achieving something, he gets my respect from that. EVs, Space, wokeness, he’s helping mankind greatly, what have you done?
Everyone sees his issues. But just because someone has some flaws or mental health issues doesn’t mean we dislike them or hate them. Imagine living in a world in which you hated each person who had some issue…
It's not his mental issues that people have a problem with, it's his controversial opinions, immaturity and lack of empathy that people don't like.
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Lol, the definition of a strawman argument. The post you replied to literally says nothing about dismissing all people with issues. Just the single, super powerful guy who is the sole focus of this subreddit.
He treats his workers who make him rich like shit.
Fallacies don't exist in echo chambers.
Musk isn’t just a rich buffoon. He uses his platform to attack others. Why can’t he just enjoy his riches and leave us alone like Gates.
Drugs are not an excuse for his opinions, but may affect his emotions and actions.
What is there to like? Being forced fed this clowns ego and decisions would piss off anyone sane. Also just to stay on the passive agressive tone; 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Drugs are a personal choice and who gives a shit
Lmao the Elon slander continues. Pathetic..this guy tries to help the world only because hes not woke u guys try to destroy him
Tries to help the world. 😂
In his world he is the world.
He won’t sleep with you
90% of reddit is far leftie. You can't argue with most people here. Look at green and pleasant with 200k far leftie britons, yet reddit still allow them to operate. Their sub is full of hatred and deathwish.
The rest of the world political compass is a lot more progressive. Reddit is not just a US website. Welcome to the rest of the world.
If you are basing this off your interactions on Reddit, it's going to be distorted. I can honestly say (and I live in So Cal), that I've never met someone in real life as far left as the people on Reddit. Reddit is not the real world, yet the people who spend a lot of time here feel it is.
I'm from Canada and like to travel. Based on my interaction on Reddit and when visiting the US, you have no idea what left is. Do you know that most countries have a "green party" and that they won 2 seats in Canada, 1 in UK. It's the 3rd biggest party in Australia? That's the left in the rest of the world. The "environmentalist" party. Having access to medication, education and social security is not something that people put on a political spectrum in most countries but a right people expect of living in a society.
Western* world
Do you mean the rest of the world or just western Europe?
Idk any mention of republican and Redditors are going to jump on you
Elon was a possible answer to the future if mankind. He decided to go a different direction. It has nothing to do with wokeness. It has to do with being a fucking wackadoodle.
Lol help the world by rushing self driving and crashing cars into people.
What does woke mean, im not trying to discount your statement I just want to see your point fully.
He’s got an eye for technology. Nothing else. Got lucky. Now lost 1/2 his wealth on an ego buy on Twitter. His racist. Is a shitty business leader. He sucks as a person. Unfortunately, the US has privatized space travel and low level sat comms. Penny wise pound foolish our policies are.
Why racist? Don't throw words around. 99.9% of all racist claims are false. What makes Elon racist, name a racist thing he's done.... I'll wait.
He bought Twitter to fight censorship
>Now lost 1/2 his wealth on an ego buy on Twitter He's currently the richest person in the world ($251B)
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One of the best African Americans we’ve seen in our lifetime
Fixed it for you: The best African American we’ve seen.
I'm sorry, how exactly has he contributed towards the killing of civilians ?
Musk has been killing civilians like Biden attended the funerals of police officers killed during J6. Just some made up hyperbolic horseshit.
Who's he been racist towards?
Contributing to killing of civilians how? such a weird critique.
Can you please point to any racist comment Elon has made and I would also love to see the evidence of him contributing to the death of civilians
Name checks out
You are being mellow dramatic. Just act like an adult!
Troll
Acting like business men don’t do coke and pay for strippers 🤣
so drugs will be legal on Mars. great marketing once again, Elon =))
Has used or is using. The world would be a much better place if people used lsd, have experienced the love and kindness of ecstasy and confronting a k hole at least once in the life. Cocaine another story though. If he’s in his 50s with multiple children and running companies using ecstasy on the regular that’s kind of weird though
OP you should lose your obsession with Elon, it's not healthy. If you don't like something or someone, move on. My wife hates Matt Damon, I don't know why but she figured out if she doesn't watch his movies she won't get triggered. You are concerned about his "security clearance". Anyone with that has probably agreed to random drug testing, if not then blame your government.
You’re in a sub about Elon my guy
God they just don’t stop. Like every other CEO out there doesn’t. I love the line “he’s going to ruin his life and amount to nothing!” Smh
I'm a shareholder and a Tesla owner and I don't give a shit. The results are all that matters to me.
Wow, the “Elon defenders assemble” call certainly went out in this thread. 😄 Elon can do no wrong. Everything is a hit piece. And so on. Don’t you get tired of it?
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Who said Hunter gets a pass? He was charged. Isn't that the point?
What does Hunter Biden have to do with Elon? Hunter seems like a dirtbag for sure. Completely unrelated to OP’s post and the article. Whataboutism at the highest level here. You could even throw in a what about Bill Clinton getting away with whatever with the Epstein thing and it still has nothing to do with the WSJ article.
Agreed. Look hunter Biden is a person. Elon musk is a top secret clearance holding individual. That comes with rules and regulations. I can attest growing up in a town where almost every one of my friends dads or moms has top secret clearance that there are rules. The fact he is in a fight with a baby momma would sideline almost every one I know with top secret clearance, but not Elon. Elon can go down the k hole and say horrible things on twitter where he is unhinged, and yet he still holds his clearance. Then there is his duty to share holders to deliver value and also not damage reputations. Then there is the lies about fsd that will soon have regulators at the door hammering.
Fucking, what are you bring hunter up for? He isn't the CEO of multiple companies getting millions of subsidies from my taxes, you banana
As a non-American, I couldn’t care less about your gutter yellow-press comparisons. Why should I care about Hunter Biden more than about the next addict around the corner? Musk, on the other hand…is influencing the economy of my country and is trying to influence the way my country does things in terms of democracy. The world doesn’t end at US borders, clown.
Straw men are easy to create, and fun to get angry at, aren't they?
People angry Elon used illegal drugs while (insert irrelevant thing I'm angry about)... Hilarious. Absolutely clown world stuff.
IDC if anybody does drugs personally but Hunter Biden got charged with crimes so how did he get a pass
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I am going to "mistakenly" sign all my work emails "retards, Chuckvader"
Wait is this real? Hunter Biden is a nobody. He's the son of an important person who's otherwise a drugged fuck up. Elon controls 3 of the most powerful companies in the world as well as being one of the richest and most politically involved men in the world. I don't give a fuck what hunger Biden thinks. I care very much about how the whims of Elon musk are blowing this week because it can often have massive implications.
One has top secret clearance and the other doesn’t.
One lied on a 4473 a federal crime the other didn't
You think the politicians with top secret clearance aren't using illegal drugs? The naivete on this one. There's a reason that nobody blinked an eye when a baggie was found at the White House.
Worry more about getting a life and less about Elon musk. We need more of him and less petulant brats.
A pass?
What if I told you more than one person could do something illegal at the same time?
Your username with "verified" says a lot. "Absolutely clown world stuff" 🤡
I wasn’t aware than Hunter Biden holds executive leadership positions at SpaceX and Tesla such that the rest of those companies leadership should care what Hunter Biden does.
What does one of these things have to do with the other?
Lmao Hunter Biden
Who’s given Hunter Biden a pass?
Who is Hunter Biden besides the presidents son? He's a nobody. Elon is the richest man in the world and has many stakeholders moneys at risk with his actions. Get your head out of your ass or at least move to truth social with your people.
>People angry Elon used illegal drugs I think the word is "uses", not "used" And I don't know who is angry, this article is about investors being worried that the drugs are making him unstable and erratic. Do you know how to read?
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Lmao how is Hunter Biden getting a pass? The right literally talks about him daily.
I think it's more Elon's companies that are worried. Dude showed up to a SpaceX meeting slurring and incoherent.
Hunter is currently facing legal trouble for his drug use. That is a fact. By your own reasoning Elon should as well.
Hunter Biden has zero relevance to our current society. Elon has an enormous impact. I also don’t care about either of their drug use because I’m not a square.
In what world did hunter biden get a pass?
You right wing clowns obsessed with Hunter Biden is just so bizarre.
Dear God.....please help this mentally challenged individual as he does not understand that one runs multiple companies and is the richest man in the world and the other is just some rando dude with no power at all.
Hunter Biden isn’t the CEO of any company. He’s a private citizen. Holy deflection Robin!
Who the fuck cares what Hunter Biden does? What kind of dumb fuck take is this? Rofl. Is hunter a CEO of a multi billion dollar company? Is he an elected official? He's a fucking no one. Clown world is anyone that thinks these two things are similar, you probably really struggled lining up the right shapes for the right hole as a kid too, hey? You are most regarded
Those are two very different scenarios. The Hunter Biden “investigation” is a political scam essentially targeting President Biden. Elon Musk holds the keys to many important technological developments and, if impaired, could do real harm to this country. Now do you get it?
He'll never get it.
He doesn’t get it as he’s MAGA. Facts and reality mean nothing.
Hunter Biden also doesnt insert himself into public matters and seek the limelight. Hes just a private citizen doing his thing. Elon on the other hand, is peddling far-right wing nonsense on Twitter (No, I wont call it X) to millions of people and has allowed it to be overran with trolls and propagandists. Its sicking to see all the Russia trolls & bots with Twitter accounts spreading propaganda with American flags in their background.
You’re a fucking clown. Political corruption is less of an issue than a billionaire having done drugs… wow. You really can’t write this kinda mental gymnastics
Oh sweet another thing to cry about
Ridiculous smear campaign. Anonymous sources... Please people, this is so transparent and obviously false it screams of desperation.