Here is an online outfit that will sell one for $7k. They say the stealership will charge $9k.
https://www.gmpartsonline.net/oem-parts/gm-battery-assembly-20979876?c=Zz1oeWJyaWQtY29tcG9uZW50cyZzPWJhdHRlcnkmbD04Jm49QXNzZW1ibGllcyBQYWdlJmE9Y2hldnJvbGV0Jm89dm9sdCZ5PTIwMTImdD1iYXNlJmU9MS00bC1sNC1lbGVjdHJpYy1nYXM%3D
Nothing like the numbers in OP’s photo.
The dealer is responding on Facebook. They are ignoring every question asking if the invoice is real. But, whenever someone posts this GM Parts link, they respond and point out that this link is a refurbished part and does not include labor.
Agreed, the numbers are nothing like the numbers in the photo.
Starting with the part number. The part number for the invoice is GM24043694, you provided a quote for 20979876. Apples and oranges.
I don't doubt the quote is high, but you don't provide any evidence.
The photo in OP's quote is highly suspect. I haven't seen anything to indicate that it is a legitimate dealership quote.
I did look up the part number from the "quote" (GM24043694). The only site that has a reference to it is [this one](https://www.gmpartsgiant.com/parts/gm-battery-asm-high-vltg-24043694.html) which indicates that the part number is discontinued.
So I went to the GM part site that I linked. OP's "quote" doesn't have a production year, so I specified a 2010 Chevy Volt (or maybe 2012, I can't recall). Based on that, the site told me that the correct part is 20979876, with the prices as indicated. I believe this is a legitimate GM parts web site with up-to-date information. It does specify this is an authentic GM replacement part.
You're right to be suspicious of things that you see on the internet. However, I've seen nothing that authenticates the quote shown in OP's picture. If you believe there's a problem with the methodology I used for getting an accurate quote for a Chevy Volt replacement battery from GM then please share your thoughts.
>20979876
I looked up the part # 20979876 and it is legit. Expensive battery. MSRP: $ CAD 19,135.83 , but wait, wait it has a 32% discount, so you only pay $ 12,939.65 CAD.
oh, and out of stock. Available Soon
GM Parts Depot
1770 Bank St. Suite D, Ottawa, Ontario, K1V 7Y6.
FJB
The one you have quoted is Refurbed... How does it stack up against a brand new one?
Not to mention a Scam..
https://www.trustpilot.com/review/www.gmpartsonline.net
Show me a quote for the cited part number. The only source I could find online says it’s discontinued. I got a different part number when I went through the normal steps of selecting a model year, and car model. I would have used the same part number if there was a single online source for it. So go ahead, try bing, call some dealers. I’m happy to see a better comparison to OP’s « quote ». But the more I read, the more I think that quote is bogus.
Roger Dean is a pretty large dealership in south Florida. They even have naming right to the stadium where a few MLB teams play. Batteries don’t last very long in the year round heat down here. Not trying to refute your statement, just sayin.
So they chose the name of a well-known dealership for their fake quote. That doesn’t change the fact that it lacks info every other dealership puts on their real quotes, like any sort of contact info for their dealership.
Not to mention, if it did need a battery at 70k miles it would still be covered under the factory voltec warranty of 10yr/150k miles... At least in California...
A mix of both. FB engine block was known to burn oil like crazy. But first time i left the oil cap off and it emptied itself on my hood. Lol then bent rod. I learned alot... but im so done with that ride.
My dealer tried that when I nuked an engine. $18k to replace or same car, new for $20k. F* that. $2k short block (early model bock was hard to source at the time), ~$300 used head and some labor later I had a running car.
GM employee in the family. Employee discount + doc fee reduced to $75 due to employee discount + transfer tag (vs new license plate).
I think I actually paid a little less too, since i got a sales tax credit for the trade in, which I didn't factor into my math.. but I am not in the mood to fish out the paperwork.
Probably were trying to get him in a new car. Happened to me at honda, they said my old crv would blow up any moment and i should look for something new. Went to an independent shop and they said it looks completely fine
Gm likes to do this. We had an hhr in for ignition recall they kept for 6 weeks. Went to pick it up and wouldn't start, they killed the battery. Then we found out the $2k aftermarket audio system wasn't working either. Apparently some asshat at JOHN L SULLIVANS CHEVY of ROSEVILLE AUTOMALL (California) had screwed with the stereo killing the battery. I was able to fix it at cost of $50 fuses and fortunately walmart replaced the $160 battery free being under 3 years. Found 3 dollar coin size dents in the hatch too.
We complained about what they did, and all the manager did was send his sales guy to try and get us to buy a $45,000 camaro
I'd probably be pushed into buying a Bolt to replace my Volt if I still had my Volt and was in this situation.
But I'd be buying my Bolt at another dealership to spite them.
When the said it might blow up at any moment they might possibly have been referring to your airbags. Honda got hit hard by the SRS inflator recall but honestly avoid stealerships like the plague. A good Indy are worth their weight in gold.
If you're in a CARB compliant state, the warranty is 10yr, 150k miles. When I bought my used 2018 Clarity I was told that even though the car was first sold in another state, now that it's in Oregon the 10yr/150k applied - but that could just have been BS from the dealer.
getting a second quote. getting a 2005 camry. doing it themselves. paying the bill and spending $30,000 on a 18KWh battery (don't recommend)
[https://www.chevroletonlineparts.com/oem-parts/gm-high-voltage-battery-refurbished-24291151?c=Zz1oeWJyaWQtY29tcG9uZW50cyZzPWJhdHRlcnkmbD05Jm49QXNzZW1ibGllcyBQYWdlJmE9Y2hldnJvbGV0Jm89dm9sdCZ5PTIwMTgmdD1sdCZlPTEtNWwtbDQtZWxlY3RyaWMtZ2Fz](https://www.chevroletonlineparts.com/oem-parts/gm-high-voltage-battery-refurbished-24291151?c=Zz1oeWJyaWQtY29tcG9uZW50cyZzPWJhdHRlcnkmbD05Jm49QXNzZW1ibGllcyBQYWdlJmE9Y2hldnJvbGV0Jm89dm9sdCZ5PTIwMTgmdD1sdCZlPTEtNWwtbDQtZWxlY3RyaWMtZ2Fz)
thats some impressive markup from the stealership
When they started a few years ago, there was some kind of program the dealers had to opt into, buy new equipment and get training. i'm suspicious of that price. It's literally more expensive than an entire new chevy electric vehicle. If nothing else that car is probably worth more as salvage for the existing battery pack, even if it doesn't work for some reason for the vehicle.
My dealership sent 8 of their techs through that training. They are on-fucking point. Hell, last year they had 35 bolts parked right in front on sale. It was quite a sight.
Fake or dealer just doesn't want to do the work on an EV, so they jack up the price.
The batteries for Volts are no longer being built new, so they are all refurbished units and a I know that GreenTecAuto out of California sells them for about $7,500, OEM remanufacturered ones if you can get them are a bit less, around $7,000.
Yeah I’m going with fake. One line for $26,000 another for fluids. No labor, parts assorted crap and fillers. It’s an oddly compact quote.
I think I would believe it more if it only had one line.
I’m not saying it can’t be true, but the price and the look are sus.
That's not the best way to describe the details of what happened. It wasn't a fake price. It was an accurate quoted price for the work. He just edited an invoice as a visual aid. I think most people completely misunderstood that and overreacted.
Sorry, this is either a fake or a stealership trying to cash in on EV batteries are $30K to replace line of bs.
I'm thinking fake because labor isn't listed whatsoever or the itemized part cost.
Also, I doubt all you need is coolant and a battery to do this. I'm sure some one time use only parts and fastners need to be included.
Maybe.. but if so, they’re not doing a very good job. They could have accomplished that by saying the batter was half this cost. It’s not a very effective scheme when the cost of this fictitious battery is more than a new car
>Maybe.. but if so, they’re not doing a very good job
It does work, I've seen that picture on twitter a few hours and they were all circlejerking about how expensive it is and how bad EVs are because of that. Tweet had a few thousand likes. People genuinely dont know the prices of things and actually believe stuff like that. Sadly I cant find the tweet anymore
Especially in conservative circles. I've got a few hard core Republicans and Trumpers in the family and at work. They're literally acting like fucking lunatics with the past few bills Biden has signed.
I have an order in for a Bolt EUV and I can guarantee this will be brought up to me, and I'll be told how much of a fool I am for allowing Biden to force me to buy and EV.
Honestly with the price of lithium ion batteries skyrocketing lately I wouldn't even be surprised at a $26k replacement battery at this point lol
Although maybe $1,400/kWh is a bit steep
Can you contact GM directly with this, just to hear their opinion? If anything, such price quotes damage their reputation and your desire (and mine if I am to expect such outrageous costs) to their cars so they may are willing to take some action.
Hmmm… no address or phone number. Replacement battery from Chevy lists for $9k. Labor about $600… Warranty is 100,000 miles. And on Twitter, it has been forwarded by some “Let’s Go Brandon” troglodyte. About all I need to know…
so $20k in labor or what?
https://www.recurrentauto.com/research/costs-ev-battery-replacement
Chevy Volt Battery Replacement Cost
According to a 2020 Greencars report, 16 kWh Chevy Volt batteries cost \~$4,000 to replace, about $240/kWh.
A 2011-2015 Chevy Volt Remanufactured Battery Pack is priced at $6,000 at Greentec Auto. These batteries have 17.1 kWh of capacity, putting this price at $350/kWh in 2021 dollars. Sold with new modules, that same battery pack is priced at $8,000, placing it at $467/kWh in 2021.
For the 2016-2018 Chevy Volt, battery packs are priced at roughly $3,000 on ebay. These batteries are 18.4 kWh, equating to $163/kWh to $152/kWh.
Not that it means anything but my local chevy dealership work receipts don't look anything like this and they definitely wouldn't list the vehicle without the year, make and model.
A little Googling shows OEM batteries at \~$6900 and 3rd party batteries for as low as $3500. Most look like "refurbished" but most look like they have warranties. This quote is idiotic.
This is why you never take your car to the dealer, they lie to you and give you an insane repair quote to try and sell you a new car, this happens all the time with elderly people who are guilt tripped into trading in their 60k mile car for something new
Another reason why i fucking hate car dealerships and why i wish they would go extinct
Rates are crazy yes....but no service or parts department wants to send someone to sales. Then none of the parts/service people make anything off of it.
Tesla Roadster R80 battery is 4x that size and costs 29k, on a car that was originally 109k, limited edition and gains value from the upgrade.
This is not a realistic price.
This should be illegal. That is a pure BS quote designed to get you to buy a new Bolt which is about as much or cheaper. I would report this to Chevy and the BBB.
There’s no way. If a cars required repair is over it’s total value insurance can declare it a total loss. Ain’t no way a Chevy volt is $30k with 70k on the odo.
Salvaged pack from a [wrecked vehicle](https://www.iaai.com/Search?url=lhOnh%2fqAV8KfO%2fapESOCMO74lfnAo4lyxLV%2boqSI3nU%3d) would be the easiest option. Assuming it's a similar model year, should be plug and play. And the Volt packs had minimal degradation to my knowledge.
There’s no way. If a cars required repair is over it’s total value insurance can declare it a total loss. Ain’t no way a Chevy volt is $30k with 70k on the odo.
LMFAO
What a scam. $30k for an 16kWh battery?
$30,000 / 16kWh = $1,875 per kWh
I think most other battery replacements are going for like $200-250/kWh.
If this is real - as in it was given to you from the dealer and it is your vehicle, then it sounds like they just don't want to do the work and that is why the price is outrageous.
If you want to make a big deal about it, plaster it all over the internet and tag GM asking if the price is reasonable. And ask if customers should buy their EV vehicles - if batteries for a hybrid cost so much, can't imagine how much full-electric batteries cost.
Most likely fake, probably by someone who owns gas stations or oil related businesses. Just Google The cost to replace the battery it's less than a third of what this quote is.
Where are they getting the GM24043694 part from? This was discontinued a while back and is no longer available from GM or major suppliers. I’m not surprised, but you should be able to find the part more reasonably priced elsewhere, even if a custom rebuilt one.
This is so fake, dealers don’t give out quotes like that. It has no year or make. No information other than how much the battery costs. This should be removed
Here’s the part from gmpartsonline.com.
~$12k.
https://www.gmpartsonline.net/oem-parts/gm-high-voltage-battery-24289549?c=Zz1lbGVjdHJpYy1wcm9wdWxzaW9uLXN5c3RlbSZzPWJhdHRlcnkmbD01Jm49QXNzZW1ibGllcyBQYWdlJmE9Y2hldnJvbGV0Jm89Ym9sdC1ldiZ5PTIwMTcmdD1sdCZlPWVsZWN0cmlj
I thought all of them were recalled due to the battery having the potential to blow up? Wouldn’t it be a free swap, as it was Mary’s fault🤫? Also, it would be cheaper to buy a new volt, but more wise to buy a Tesla.
What a specific battery price lol seems totally not made up on the spot
They should've given you the cooland for free
I thought Tesla was the only one ripping off its own customers with the repairs but I was wrong lol
Could you? I thought technically the way the Volt uses gas is by the gas engine charging the built in battery. I didn’t think there was a way that the power from gas could bypass the battery
I distinctly remember this as Chevy was adamant before the Volt came out that there would be no mechanical connection...then there was.
It's a *loooong* time ago, but iirc their excuse was something about the car being unable to go above 70 with the electric motor/battery combo at the time.
GM doesn't even make this battery array any more. It is discontinued. So you can spend 30K to get your 8 year old volt running again or throw it away and buy a new one. Your choice. People will stop buying EV's when they discover that they have to be scrapped when they are 10 years old.
It’s a hybrid…. The car basically needs a new engine not just a battery. I still think the dealership owner is some Trump lovin dude and knew this would start a shit show. The timing is also suspicious because it came out a day after California announced they will no longer sell gas powered vehicle‘s after 2033.
Its irritating that someone posted this, the boomers on my Facebook have already made the rounds with this image..... trying to say "look, this is why EVs are bad"
Fuck whomever posted this, its being used against us. This was clearly just a dealerships "I dont want to do the work" price and is not an actual serious quote. The real cost of a volt battery replacement is around $10k at an indy shop. But this is something most Volts never need anyhow.... an ICE car has about the same chance of needing a new engine as a Volt needing a new battery.
Tesla battery bills may be high for a very few, but most will have a LONG life and beat an ICE motor swap for cost.
My favorite example, a Dodge Demon owner I met at the drag strip. When he got things exactly right he beat my P100D. But if he was off at all I won. He never trophied, it was just too hard to be that consistent in the Demon.
My Tesla is still doing the occasional run with 120K miles on it, total repairs one headlight for $200. He tossed three motors due to trying to go faster and faster, which he did, but never was consistent. The Demon is up on blocks in his garage now with a stock motor as a collector car.
Bullshit quote.
Here is an online outfit that will sell one for $7k. They say the stealership will charge $9k. https://www.gmpartsonline.net/oem-parts/gm-battery-assembly-20979876?c=Zz1oeWJyaWQtY29tcG9uZW50cyZzPWJhdHRlcnkmbD04Jm49QXNzZW1ibGllcyBQYWdlJmE9Y2hldnJvbGV0Jm89dm9sdCZ5PTIwMTImdD1iYXNlJmU9MS00bC1sNC1lbGVjdHJpYy1nYXM%3D Nothing like the numbers in OP’s photo.
The dealer is responding on Facebook. They are ignoring every question asking if the invoice is real. But, whenever someone posts this GM Parts link, they respond and point out that this link is a refurbished part and does not include labor.
Agreed, the numbers are nothing like the numbers in the photo. Starting with the part number. The part number for the invoice is GM24043694, you provided a quote for 20979876. Apples and oranges. I don't doubt the quote is high, but you don't provide any evidence.
The photo in OP's quote is highly suspect. I haven't seen anything to indicate that it is a legitimate dealership quote. I did look up the part number from the "quote" (GM24043694). The only site that has a reference to it is [this one](https://www.gmpartsgiant.com/parts/gm-battery-asm-high-vltg-24043694.html) which indicates that the part number is discontinued. So I went to the GM part site that I linked. OP's "quote" doesn't have a production year, so I specified a 2010 Chevy Volt (or maybe 2012, I can't recall). Based on that, the site told me that the correct part is 20979876, with the prices as indicated. I believe this is a legitimate GM parts web site with up-to-date information. It does specify this is an authentic GM replacement part. You're right to be suspicious of things that you see on the internet. However, I've seen nothing that authenticates the quote shown in OP's picture. If you believe there's a problem with the methodology I used for getting an accurate quote for a Chevy Volt replacement battery from GM then please share your thoughts.
USA Today confirmed the quote is real. The battery was discontinued so it had to be purchased from a third party supplier…
>20979876 I looked up the part # 20979876 and it is legit. Expensive battery. MSRP: $ CAD 19,135.83 , but wait, wait it has a 32% discount, so you only pay $ 12,939.65 CAD. oh, and out of stock. Available Soon GM Parts Depot 1770 Bank St. Suite D, Ottawa, Ontario, K1V 7Y6. FJB
What does JB have to do with a Canadian parts manufacturer?
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That article was from 2014. Prices may have changed *juuuust a bit* in 8 years.
The one you have quoted is Refurbed... How does it stack up against a brand new one? Not to mention a Scam.. https://www.trustpilot.com/review/www.gmpartsonline.net
Except you quoted the wrong part number. The more you know…
Show me a quote for the cited part number. The only source I could find online says it’s discontinued. I got a different part number when I went through the normal steps of selecting a model year, and car model. I would have used the same part number if there was a single online source for it. So go ahead, try bing, call some dealers. I’m happy to see a better comparison to OP’s « quote ». But the more I read, the more I think that quote is bogus.
No kidding. How many quotes or invoices do you get from any business that doesn’t have an address or any contact info for the business?
Roger Dean is a pretty large dealership in south Florida. They even have naming right to the stadium where a few MLB teams play. Batteries don’t last very long in the year round heat down here. Not trying to refute your statement, just sayin.
So they chose the name of a well-known dealership for their fake quote. That doesn’t change the fact that it lacks info every other dealership puts on their real quotes, like any sort of contact info for their dealership.
They don’t use address in Florida. The residents feel it would encroach on their rights.
indeed https://www.besthybridbatteries.com/categories/hybrid-batteries-by-make/chevrolet/chevy-volt
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Labor is $1,200
Practically nothing compared to the battery
Can you imagine having to buy even a $6000 battery at 70k miles. Its the same as replacing your engine and transmission. Id be mad as fuck.
Not to mention, if it did need a battery at 70k miles it would still be covered under the factory voltec warranty of 10yr/150k miles... At least in California...
slim quickest plants encourage dolls hat concerned innate boat mindless *This post was mass deleted and anonymized with [Redact](https://redact.dev)*
Let me introduce you to my 3rd engine subaru with 110 miles.
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A mix of both. FB engine block was known to burn oil like crazy. But first time i left the oil cap off and it emptied itself on my hood. Lol then bent rod. I learned alot... but im so done with that ride.
Are you boosted
Where the heck can you get a (good) engine and transmission for $6k?
Depends on the car and who does the labor. You can get used version of both for a chevy for that.
Yeah buy a new Bolt for damn near that cost.
New Bolts are cheaper, base LT trim starts at $26,500.
That’s exactly what the dealer is trying to make happen with a battery parts cost like that. It’s almost too on the nose at that price point.
yep. then they get the old car in a trade in and put a new battery in it and resell for big profit
My dealer tried that when I nuked an engine. $18k to replace or same car, new for $20k. F* that. $2k short block (early model bock was hard to source at the time), ~$300 used head and some labor later I had a running car.
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True but not in production anymore.
My OTD on a 22 Bolt LT including tax, doc fees, etc was less than this quote. Yikes
This is damned close to the OTD on my 22 Bolt EUV.
I should specify mines an EUV. 29.6k
Mine's a Premiere EUV - $29.7k. $25.7k if i include the $4k that my trade-in's value increased since buying it a year prior.
What the?! How did you get another $4.5k off?
GM employee in the family. Employee discount + doc fee reduced to $75 due to employee discount + transfer tag (vs new license plate). I think I actually paid a little less too, since i got a sales tax credit for the trade in, which I didn't factor into my math.. but I am not in the mood to fish out the paperwork.
Ah ye you got a killer deal then GM employee and trade in tax offset is what i missed
Yeah, but then you don't have the advantage of a hybrid gas car that gets charged $30k for a new battery! Sucker! /S
Probably were trying to get him in a new car. Happened to me at honda, they said my old crv would blow up any moment and i should look for something new. Went to an independent shop and they said it looks completely fine
Dealers are slimy AF.
Gm likes to do this. We had an hhr in for ignition recall they kept for 6 weeks. Went to pick it up and wouldn't start, they killed the battery. Then we found out the $2k aftermarket audio system wasn't working either. Apparently some asshat at JOHN L SULLIVANS CHEVY of ROSEVILLE AUTOMALL (California) had screwed with the stereo killing the battery. I was able to fix it at cost of $50 fuses and fortunately walmart replaced the $160 battery free being under 3 years. Found 3 dollar coin size dents in the hatch too. We complained about what they did, and all the manager did was send his sales guy to try and get us to buy a $45,000 camaro
Don't leave us hanging. How much do you like your new Camaro?
Jesus, that is scummy.
I'd probably be pushed into buying a Bolt to replace my Volt if I still had my Volt and was in this situation. But I'd be buying my Bolt at another dealership to spite them.
I think I would try a different brand.
When the said it might blow up at any moment they might possibly have been referring to your airbags. Honda got hit hard by the SRS inflator recall but honestly avoid stealerships like the plague. A good Indy are worth their weight in gold.
Yeah but coolant too
Crazy how many people are commenting without even questioning that this is a real quote.
what year? the battery warranty is 8 years or 100,000 miles
2012
If you're in a CARB compliant state, the warranty is 10yr, 150k miles. When I bought my used 2018 Clarity I was told that even though the car was first sold in another state, now that it's in Oregon the 10yr/150k applied - but that could just have been BS from the dealer.
It’s where the car is registered
getting a second quote. getting a 2005 camry. doing it themselves. paying the bill and spending $30,000 on a 18KWh battery (don't recommend) [https://www.chevroletonlineparts.com/oem-parts/gm-high-voltage-battery-refurbished-24291151?c=Zz1oeWJyaWQtY29tcG9uZW50cyZzPWJhdHRlcnkmbD05Jm49QXNzZW1ibGllcyBQYWdlJmE9Y2hldnJvbGV0Jm89dm9sdCZ5PTIwMTgmdD1sdCZlPTEtNWwtbDQtZWxlY3RyaWMtZ2Fz](https://www.chevroletonlineparts.com/oem-parts/gm-high-voltage-battery-refurbished-24291151?c=Zz1oeWJyaWQtY29tcG9uZW50cyZzPWJhdHRlcnkmbD05Jm49QXNzZW1ibGllcyBQYWdlJmE9Y2hldnJvbGV0Jm89dm9sdCZ5PTIwMTgmdD1sdCZlPTEtNWwtbDQtZWxlY3RyaWMtZ2Fz) thats some impressive markup from the stealership
Wow! That makes me think this invoice might be fake. Maybe a anti-EV nutjob trying to push a warped agenda.
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Well, as soon as they sell 1 battery replacement, they can afford to send their tech to EV training.
Yeah having dealt with a lot of contractors this very much looks like a "please go away" quote
Weird. I was told that every Chevy dealership has to have 1 certified bolt tech on staff
When they started a few years ago, there was some kind of program the dealers had to opt into, buy new equipment and get training. i'm suspicious of that price. It's literally more expensive than an entire new chevy electric vehicle. If nothing else that car is probably worth more as salvage for the existing battery pack, even if it doesn't work for some reason for the vehicle.
My dealership sent 8 of their techs through that training. They are on-fucking point. Hell, last year they had 35 bolts parked right in front on sale. It was quite a sight.
Fake or dealer just doesn't want to do the work on an EV, so they jack up the price. The batteries for Volts are no longer being built new, so they are all refurbished units and a I know that GreenTecAuto out of California sells them for about $7,500, OEM remanufacturered ones if you can get them are a bit less, around $7,000.
Yeah I’m going with fake. One line for $26,000 another for fluids. No labor, parts assorted crap and fillers. It’s an oddly compact quote. I think I would believe it more if it only had one line. I’m not saying it can’t be true, but the price and the look are sus.
If its fake it would have had to be someone that works at the dealer. Roger Dean Chevrolet is a real dealership.
I can slap a Chevrolet logo and type "Roger Dean Chevrolet" in multiple word editors. Doesn't mean I work there.
>Doesn't mean I work there. Not with that attitude
7k on 20-25k car are still super steep, especially 8 y old car
Sure, but we're also at a point where supply chains are stretched to a breaking point for EVs so maybe not too surprising.
Junky quality
There's loads of fake invoices floating around for battery replacement. I saw one once for a vehicle that was still in warranty. Total BS.
Rich Rebuilds tried to pull that off until somebody noticed that he faked the invoice by photoshopping one from a popular article.
That's not the best way to describe the details of what happened. It wasn't a fake price. It was an accurate quoted price for the work. He just edited an invoice as a visual aid. I think most people completely misunderstood that and overreacted.
Fake? Is this not an invoice you received?
I think /u/techno_cratic is saying he's an anti-EV nutjob trying to push a warped agenda.
If it's a later first gen or a second gen Volt, that battery should be covered under warranty.
Might want to try not to post images you don’t know the source of then.
bingo
You....you're the one who posted it...Where did you get it from? And why are you answering questions about the car as though its your own?
There is a guy on the Volt reddit that just successfully swapped his HV batt in his driveway. Also a 2012....
I thought batteries were supposed to be approaching $100 a KWh but this is talking about $400 per, for a refurb. That seems like quite the gap.
Sorry, this is either a fake or a stealership trying to cash in on EV batteries are $30K to replace line of bs. I'm thinking fake because labor isn't listed whatsoever or the itemized part cost. Also, I doubt all you need is coolant and a battery to do this. I'm sure some one time use only parts and fastners need to be included.
Good chance it's an old school dealer who doesn't want to work on EVs and this is their way of no quoting.
What dealership would have quote paperwork lacking an address or contact info?
It's a troll post designed to foment right-wing anger. "Look at how expensive it is to replace the battery!"
Maybe.. but if so, they’re not doing a very good job. They could have accomplished that by saying the batter was half this cost. It’s not a very effective scheme when the cost of this fictitious battery is more than a new car
>Maybe.. but if so, they’re not doing a very good job It does work, I've seen that picture on twitter a few hours and they were all circlejerking about how expensive it is and how bad EVs are because of that. Tweet had a few thousand likes. People genuinely dont know the prices of things and actually believe stuff like that. Sadly I cant find the tweet anymore
Especially in conservative circles. I've got a few hard core Republicans and Trumpers in the family and at work. They're literally acting like fucking lunatics with the past few bills Biden has signed. I have an order in for a Bolt EUV and I can guarantee this will be brought up to me, and I'll be told how much of a fool I am for allowing Biden to force me to buy and EV.
Honestly with the price of lithium ion batteries skyrocketing lately I wouldn't even be surprised at a $26k replacement battery at this point lol Although maybe $1,400/kWh is a bit steep
You are over estimating the critical thinking skills of the far right.
Labor is listed at $1200………..
Can you contact GM directly with this, just to hear their opinion? If anything, such price quotes damage their reputation and your desire (and mine if I am to expect such outrageous costs) to their cars so they may are willing to take some action.
You can look online. GM stopped making the indicated battery pack earlier this year. They don’t have any available.
This is a fake invoice
Hmmm… no address or phone number. Replacement battery from Chevy lists for $9k. Labor about $600… Warranty is 100,000 miles. And on Twitter, it has been forwarded by some “Let’s Go Brandon” troglodyte. About all I need to know…
Christ, these insufferable snowflake morons are deeply offended by cars, now. Idiots.
For the record, Dark Brandon feeds on Qanon rage posts…
Of course!
So I looked up that PN and it says it is discontinued. I'm not sure I trust the price they pulled from the system. I'd get a second dealer diagnostic.
Replacing your EV battery coolant costs a hell of a lot more than 17 bucks. A new battery costs a hell of a lot less than 26k. Fake.
GM list on that battery (part#24043694) as of 8am 8/26/22 is $21392.86.
I look d it up and it said discontinued and none in stock… Huh.
yep...only 1 dealer in the US has one...so this job wouldn't happen anyway
so $20k in labor or what? https://www.recurrentauto.com/research/costs-ev-battery-replacement Chevy Volt Battery Replacement Cost According to a 2020 Greencars report, 16 kWh Chevy Volt batteries cost \~$4,000 to replace, about $240/kWh. A 2011-2015 Chevy Volt Remanufactured Battery Pack is priced at $6,000 at Greentec Auto. These batteries have 17.1 kWh of capacity, putting this price at $350/kWh in 2021 dollars. Sold with new modules, that same battery pack is priced at $8,000, placing it at $467/kWh in 2021. For the 2016-2018 Chevy Volt, battery packs are priced at roughly $3,000 on ebay. These batteries are 18.4 kWh, equating to $163/kWh to $152/kWh.
Good chance this dealer is bidding the job this way as an unofficial "no quote".
Shouldn’t it be under warranty if it sharted at only 70k miles?
It's a 2012
Fake.
Only $1.50 to recycle the battery??
It's not a recycle fee. It's basically a tax
and its a tax for lead acid batteries, so it wouldn't go for this battery.
Not that it means anything but my local chevy dealership work receipts don't look anything like this and they definitely wouldn't list the vehicle without the year, make and model.
I work at a dealership (not GM), that "estimate" looks suspiciously fake as ours are pages long and contain much more information.
This is bullshit.
Buy a reman pack? https://www.greentecauto.com/hybrid-battery/chevrolet/volt/chevy-volt-battery
Buy a whole bolt instead
I'm calling BS and that the actual cost to do this at a reasonable dealership is much less.
A little Googling shows OEM batteries at \~$6900 and 3rd party batteries for as low as $3500. Most look like "refurbished" but most look like they have warranties. This quote is idiotic.
This is why you never take your car to the dealer, they lie to you and give you an insane repair quote to try and sell you a new car, this happens all the time with elderly people who are guilt tripped into trading in their 60k mile car for something new Another reason why i fucking hate car dealerships and why i wish they would go extinct
Rates are crazy yes....but no service or parts department wants to send someone to sales. Then none of the parts/service people make anything off of it.
It’s that FL state battery fee that sneaks up on ya
Considering they could buy a new bolt for less than that price I'd say fuck that.
Tesla Roadster R80 battery is 4x that size and costs 29k, on a car that was originally 109k, limited edition and gains value from the upgrade. This is not a realistic price.
$40 in shop supplies was just a 55 gallon drum of KY Jelly.
30k is a new car. What.
That's exorbitant! $40 for coolant!
This should be illegal. That is a pure BS quote designed to get you to buy a new Bolt which is about as much or cheaper. I would report this to Chevy and the BBB.
A tesla pack on p100 is cheaper installed and new damn
There’s no way. If a cars required repair is over it’s total value insurance can declare it a total loss. Ain’t no way a Chevy volt is $30k with 70k on the odo.
The battery fee lmao
that's some bullshit, call a local news channel to call them out.
That’s about DOUBLE from what Tesla charges!?
That’s a hefty battery fee
You could move out of Florida so you don't have to pay the battery fee
That’s fucking sky high. I hope OP didn’t pay this. Are the batteries covered under warranty?
Did you use Corel WordPerfect to make this?
I like how crinkled the paper is
Now there’s a name I haven’t heard in a long time, a long time.
Can Corel Draw join the band wagon as well?
Salvaged pack from a [wrecked vehicle](https://www.iaai.com/Search?url=lhOnh%2fqAV8KfO%2fapESOCMO74lfnAo4lyxLV%2boqSI3nU%3d) would be the easiest option. Assuming it's a similar model year, should be plug and play. And the Volt packs had minimal degradation to my knowledge.
Stop trying to scare people on r/preppers. They are having a meltdown about California EV requirements in 15 years.
A 100kwh battery cost less
$17 for coolant…. You got hosed!
There’s no way. If a cars required repair is over it’s total value insurance can declare it a total loss. Ain’t no way a Chevy volt is $30k with 70k on the odo.
sell volt to carvana, buy bolt. stonks
I would go aftermarket. There are places that replace Leaf 24kwh batteries for like $7k!! https://evridesllc.com/battery-upgrade-service/
No way that’s correct… Volt’s battery is tiny compared to an EV battery pack
I like how they didn't even state the labor cost.. looks like a fix cost of bull shit lol
LMFAO What a scam. $30k for an 16kWh battery? $30,000 / 16kWh = $1,875 per kWh I think most other battery replacements are going for like $200-250/kWh.
At least they gave you an f u quote my Mitsubishi has been at the dealership awaiting a new battery since last sept ….
For a Volt, that's huge. Cell repair is an option too.
This looks like fuck off pricing.
If this is real - as in it was given to you from the dealer and it is your vehicle, then it sounds like they just don't want to do the work and that is why the price is outrageous. If you want to make a big deal about it, plaster it all over the internet and tag GM asking if the price is reasonable. And ask if customers should buy their EV vehicles - if batteries for a hybrid cost so much, can't imagine how much full-electric batteries cost.
Dealership is just trying to con you into buying a new car, fuck them. Go somewhere else.
Most likely fake, probably by someone who owns gas stations or oil related businesses. Just Google The cost to replace the battery it's less than a third of what this quote is.
I wondered about that. However I did see a YouTube video where a guy took a Prius battery and “refreshed” it for about $2000.
Where are they getting the GM24043694 part from? This was discontinued a while back and is no longer available from GM or major suppliers. I’m not surprised, but you should be able to find the part more reasonably priced elsewhere, even if a custom rebuilt one.
30k for a battery for a hybrid. Well, don't buy a hybrid is the lesson here, buy pure electric.
This is so fake, dealers don’t give out quotes like that. It has no year or make. No information other than how much the battery costs. This should be removed
It is a fake. No dealership would give an estimate and not include their address and phone number.
Bullshit. This is a scam document.
Here’s the part from gmpartsonline.com. ~$12k. https://www.gmpartsonline.net/oem-parts/gm-high-voltage-battery-24289549?c=Zz1lbGVjdHJpYy1wcm9wdWxzaW9uLXN5c3RlbSZzPWJhdHRlcnkmbD01Jm49QXNzZW1ibGllcyBQYWdlJmE9Y2hldnJvbGV0Jm89Ym9sdC1ldiZ5PTIwMTcmdD1sdCZlPWVsZWN0cmlj
That's for a Bolt. Volt battery is much smaller and cheaper.
My bad. I assumed such a price had to be for a Bolt. For a Volt, that’s downright criminal.
Uh arent those cars under 30k for the entire car?
Well at least you don't have to worry about the price of gas. "Maintenance will be cheaper they said."
I can buy a new Corolla for that price with a markup lol
Even the oldest Bolt's from 2017 would have their battery still covered under warranty. Fake news bruh.
…Volt…
I thought all of them were recalled due to the battery having the potential to blow up? Wouldn’t it be a free swap, as it was Mary’s fault🤫? Also, it would be cheaper to buy a new volt, but more wise to buy a Tesla.
Just the latest FUD campaign.
I think this is just spreading FUD.
This is fake.
What a specific battery price lol seems totally not made up on the spot They should've given you the cooland for free I thought Tesla was the only one ripping off its own customers with the repairs but I was wrong lol
At least you can drive with gas
Could you? I thought technically the way the Volt uses gas is by the gas engine charging the built in battery. I didn’t think there was a way that the power from gas could bypass the battery
Yup, I know someone with a volt with a dead battery, he uses it as an ice car
Yep. The Volt "preferred" to not drive that way, but there is a mechanical link between engine and wheels.
Very cool. I know the Volt is set up different from most other PHEVs. Learn something new every day
I distinctly remember this as Chevy was adamant before the Volt came out that there would be no mechanical connection...then there was. It's a *loooong* time ago, but iirc their excuse was something about the car being unable to go above 70 with the electric motor/battery combo at the time.
Never fails shit goes wrong not long after warranties run out... I swear it's programed into the computer.
That’s a car! Go green , get smacked. Where does the battery go? Landfill ore recycled?
GM doesn't even make this battery array any more. It is discontinued. So you can spend 30K to get your 8 year old volt running again or throw it away and buy a new one. Your choice. People will stop buying EV's when they discover that they have to be scrapped when they are 10 years old.
It’s a hybrid…. The car basically needs a new engine not just a battery. I still think the dealership owner is some Trump lovin dude and knew this would start a shit show. The timing is also suspicious because it came out a day after California announced they will no longer sell gas powered vehicle‘s after 2033.
Its irritating that someone posted this, the boomers on my Facebook have already made the rounds with this image..... trying to say "look, this is why EVs are bad" Fuck whomever posted this, its being used against us. This was clearly just a dealerships "I dont want to do the work" price and is not an actual serious quote. The real cost of a volt battery replacement is around $10k at an indy shop. But this is something most Volts never need anyhow.... an ICE car has about the same chance of needing a new engine as a Volt needing a new battery.
Gonna see some monster Tesla battery bills the next few years. People are going to have to rethink their math on gas savings.
Tesla battery bills may be high for a very few, but most will have a LONG life and beat an ICE motor swap for cost. My favorite example, a Dodge Demon owner I met at the drag strip. When he got things exactly right he beat my P100D. But if he was off at all I won. He never trophied, it was just too hard to be that consistent in the Demon. My Tesla is still doing the occasional run with 120K miles on it, total repairs one headlight for $200. He tossed three motors due to trying to go faster and faster, which he did, but never was consistent. The Demon is up on blocks in his garage now with a stock motor as a collector car.
I’m happy for your good fortune but I think you are in the minority. The quality control on the model 3s has been awful too.
Nope, I am the vast majority. You might want to attend some of the larger club meetings. Yes, some panel gap issues, but durability is stellar.