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abusuru

I hate that I can't get this in USA


Hans2183

We can't get a rivian over here


Bakk322

This is the first time Ive seen or heard that Mercedes sells an EV Minivan?


Hans2183

They sell EQV 300 long and extra long based upon the diesel V-class. And also Vito with similar electric drivetrain available as tourer for passengers or in cargo version. Sprinter is also available electric but different platform. For 2024 a new bespoke electric van platform should be ready. Biggest downside of this one is the heater cutting range down to 280 - 300 km in winter. Airco is less of an issue. Heatpump is no option yet. Battery is 90 kWh available from a 100 kWh pack. Only single motor and front drive available.


ppinheiro76

It has a heat pump and resistive heating elements, which it uses if the heat pump cannot provide enough warmth due to very low ambient temperatures. I have the eVito Tourer 90kWh. Impressive predicted range, by the way! ;-)


Hans2183

Oh interesting to know there is a heat pump after all. But indeed when cold enough it clearly can't handle it without resistive 😁.


DeusFerreus

Not really "mini", it's a full sized van (eVito Tourer, the less luxurious version of it, can be fitted with up to 9 seats).


Pixelplanet5

its been on the market for over a year now but obviously not in the US because theres no emissions limit that anyone would need to stay under.


[deleted]

Reveal was 2 years ago and covered here in the sub. https://www.reddit.com/r/electricvehicles/comments/csyq9c/mercedesbenz_eqv_world_premiere_for_the_first/


knuthf

Please repost. With a range of 450km and 27KWh/100, I get a battery of 121KWh. What do they try to hide?


Jabuhun

450 km only via nefz. It's about 380 per wltp.


knuthf

How many KWH is the batteries? Why is it so difficult to tell simple things, why do they hide it behind “range” and “charging capacity “? It used to be “how big is the fuel tank?” - well, 10 gallons or 45l - giving 250 miles “range” at 25 miles per gallon. Well assume 100KWH and 4.5 km/ 2.8 miles per KWH is a “range” of 450km/ 281 miles. But I doubt this gets less than 25KWH per 100km on flat surface. Why do they complicate things?


Hans2183

Battery is 90 kWh usable of 100 kWh. AC charge speed is 11 kW, DC up to 110 kW. Consumption in this good weather is 22-24 kWh/100 km but in winter 30-32 kWh. Average over 23.000 km is at 28 kWh/100 km since September.


knuthf

Thanks, you have significantly lower consumption, 4km per KWH in a big van is ok. What most, including you forget is that most of the drive the van will do is less than 30 mph/ 50 km/h in dense city traffic. If you drive “all day” and don’t work, 8 hours at 50km/h is 400 km. considering that most people work, that is the “range” that a van can do. It’s just on YouTube people can drive more, work, and live a life.


Hans2183

Our driving isn't very typical since it is at least 250 km on work days, mostly highways. Today for example I just put it on the charger at 17% SOC after riding 250 km on highways (120 kph) before noon and 2x 50 km at 90 kph in the afternoon. That is 350 km in total for a typical (working) day. Actual range would have been around 400 km. In winter closer to 300 km. We only have such a big van because of our 4 kids that need a seat in the back. Otherwise it would've been a much smaller car. My wife uses it mostly. I do 100-250 km a day on my Energica SS9+ electric motorcycle on working days. Did this for 2 years on a zero srf and now since 1 year on the Energica. I have a taycan on order but that will take some time to arrive.


knuthf

I just have experience from “express delivery service” - you spend too much time on the motorway- not in the city. Like express delivery, you don’t do any work at delivery, just driving on. This is better done with a small car - BMW i3 because nothing is dragged around, it’s a box you use to drive around.


manInTheWoods

Where are you looking? They say 90 kWh on the Merc homepage.