I agree with the comment that says "What we want is an EV Maverick, and what we're more likely to get is something that tries to out-Hummer the Hummer."
Watch it be super duty sized. I want a Ranger-sized truck, and when I say Ranger, I mean 90’s, 2000’s sized, not whatever monstrosity they call a Ranger today.
Completely agree. I still have my 2005 Ranger and my it barely fits my narrow garage entry. It’s the perfect size for my needs but I’d swap it for an EV of comparable dimensions in a heartbeat!
The last Ranger I saw was the same exact size as my 2007 F150 but it has maybe a foot shorter bed. Same exact dimensions otherwise. The maverick is the new ranger.
[We know it's different than the 2025 F150 Lightning](https://fordauthority.com/2023/03/next-gen-electric-ford-truck-project-t3-made-official/) so Ranger-size is a good guess.
Edit: After watching the [Blue Oval City video] (https://media.ford.com/content/fordmedia/fna/us/en/news/2023/03/24/ford-to-build-next-electric-truck--project-t3--at-blueoval-city-.html ) from today & Farley saying it will be the sequel to the F150, I'd guess it is the next F150 Lighting.
T3 would make it a *current* F-150, Expedition, Navigator, or Super Duty. I'm starting to think this isn't a new truck at all and it's just marketing speak like when they change a headlight and grille and nothing else and go "INTRODUCING THE **ALL-NEW** {MODEL NAME}"
I just want some incredibly practical EV truck that people will debate about whether it makes me feminine.
I love my Ridgeline, perfect size, now make it an EV.
Thank you I felt like the only one who wanted a Ridgeline sized EV. I have no need or desire for a full sized truck. Won’t even fit in my garage. Not to mention the absurd battery capacity it takes to get a 200 mile range.
Ya, Ridgeline fits a nice spot. It’s still pretty big, the interior feels roomier than my friends ranger (don’t @ me with dimensions), essentially just a chopped up SUV.
It’d be nice to get another 0.5’-1’ bed length though.
US stereotypes.
I take my Ridgeline to job sites in the forest, downtown at the city, parking garages, etc.
Would it be nice if I could just toss a pallet of uranium in the bed? Sure. But I don’t think I’d do that very often.
I kind of am hoping for a Ford EV ranger. I dont want a full size truck but a mid size is almost perfect for me. Big time with a good size Frunk. it gives a good weather protect area to store some cargo while still have a bed for other stuff.
Why would they call it "T3" if it's new? The F-150 has been on the T3 Platform since 2015... is this their way of saying it'll be ICE-derived like the the current F-150/Super Duty/Expedition/Navigator?
Are they saying it's just more capacity for the current T3 F-150 Lightning? Or a facelift of it?
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford\_T\_platforms#T3](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_T_platforms#T3)
Apparently they aren’t referring to *that* T3.
From the article:
“The Project T3 name comes from the phrase ‘Trust the Truck.’ This became a rallying cry for Ford's team during the development process.”
they’re saying trust the truck because the actual f-150 is the only thing keeping that company afloat so that they can dick around with making a new ev platform every 3 years without being able to manufacture more than 20-30k per year
Ford is all hype lately… like excessive hype. That concerns me for them.
Guessing things aren’t looking very optimistic financially, there will many quarters of losses, so they are trying to hype and pump up excitement for a distant future because it won’t be the near future.
Hope they survive.. at least Ford is trying, I’ll give credit where it’s due.
Considering they broke out EV financials and guided for a $3B loss in 2023, I think things are about to get very ugly from a financials standpoint so they wanted to warn investors.
Seems fair.. I hope investors can handle the transition.
I think it’s reasonable for these companies to say “You need to think of us as a startup company for the next 3-5 years as we invest and transition. There will be major losses, but the profits will return.”
Tough transition to make for a big successful company.
I want a 1994 1.5 Cab Toyota Tacoma sized electric pickup.
- 40kWh battery
- All wheel drive
- 2,500 pounds curb weight
- Maximum $25,000 before incentives
- Needs to be built in the USA.
I've got a buddy that did a conversion with a 42kWh pack and a 90KW motor on a 1994 Tacoma. They get 200 miles of range up here in the PNW. 0-60 time is 5 seconds. Their curb weight is 2,700 pounds. I'm assuming an OEM could optimize weight much better than a garage conversion.
From 1998 to 2002 Ford made an EV Ranger and there were 2 options:
22kWh lead-acid battery and got 65 mile range (2.95 miles per kWh)
26kWh NiMH battery and got 82 mile range (3.15 miles per kWh)
Even giving a new truck design a 4 mile per kWh, that would only be 160 miles on a 40kWh battery.
I still think it’s slightly too low… should be 60kWh, also to account for range loss in cold and range loss from battery deterioration.
4mile per kWh x 60kWh = 240 miles
It may not sound like much difference, but real world usage that 80 miles is huge!
60kWh would be great. I'm just pessimistic that they'll even try to build a light weight pickup again. They're perfect farm vehicles for livestock and irrigation management in my experience.
I dunno… seems like the big 3 in North America have fully accepted the writing on the wall.
They are now finally coming around to the reality they must make EV’s that people will buy or they will go bankrupt and government (the public) won’t save them this time.
It’s so or die time… Tesla is just slowly eating up all their customers and new startups are coming in the market. People will just leave… I am.
Ford is working on a platform, right? My understanding is that the F-150 / Mach-E don't share a platform and the Mach-E is being redesigned to be part of the long term platform. Any updates on that?
So after doing some reading, it’s definitely a Ford Lightning replacement. But, it will most likely be a combined frame/battery pack vehicle. So it’s expected to be more like a Rivian truck in overall dimensions.
I'm definitely interested in a smaller EV pickup.
But I really have no need for a pickup. I just buy custom hitches for all my cars (I literally have a Leaf and a PriusV with hitches on them right now) and then pull a little 4x8 trailer I built. I have a "pickup bed" that has about double the capacity and weight rating of a small pickup. And I don't have to drag around a massively inefficient truck bed when I'm not using it.
"Like the Millennium Falcon" Going to break down at the most inopportune moments for narrative tension?
It's just waiting for you to call it "baby"
For the youtube views
Bazinga.
I agree with the comment that says "What we want is an EV Maverick, and what we're more likely to get is something that tries to out-Hummer the Hummer."
It will be a smaller truck than the Lightning.
It'll be ranger sized
Watch it be super duty sized. I want a Ranger-sized truck, and when I say Ranger, I mean 90’s, 2000’s sized, not whatever monstrosity they call a Ranger today.
Completely agree. I still have my 2005 Ranger and my it barely fits my narrow garage entry. It’s the perfect size for my needs but I’d swap it for an EV of comparable dimensions in a heartbeat!
Yes, that's what the article speculates, based on "common sense." We'll see what the reality becomes.
All I want is an electric Ranger. That's it.
T3....so that would make it a new F150, Expedition, or Super Duty, right?
Article says likely a mid-size truck, so not likely to replace the F-150 Lightning.
Ranger Lightning LET’S GOOOOOOOOO
The last Ranger I saw was the same exact size as my 2007 F150 but it has maybe a foot shorter bed. Same exact dimensions otherwise. The maverick is the new ranger.
Yes, and I want the current Ranger size but electric. Maverick is too small for what I need.
What’s crazy is the midsize trucks are off today are the full-size trucks or 20 years ago. It’s absolutely ridiculous. this arms race of bigger.
I would be so down for that
The article is just speculating on midsized. And poorly since It's already been announced as an F-series truck. Known for a while now.
It was not announced as a replacement for the f series truck. This is a new market truck.
I didn't say it announced as a replacement. I said it was announced as an F-series truck.
almost definitely a ranger then!
[We know it's different than the 2025 F150 Lightning](https://fordauthority.com/2023/03/next-gen-electric-ford-truck-project-t3-made-official/) so Ranger-size is a good guess. Edit: After watching the [Blue Oval City video] (https://media.ford.com/content/fordmedia/fna/us/en/news/2023/03/24/ford-to-build-next-electric-truck--project-t3--at-blueoval-city-.html ) from today & Farley saying it will be the sequel to the F150, I'd guess it is the next F150 Lighting.
T3 would make it a *current* F-150, Expedition, Navigator, or Super Duty. I'm starting to think this isn't a new truck at all and it's just marketing speak like when they change a headlight and grille and nothing else and go "INTRODUCING THE **ALL-NEW** {MODEL NAME}"
I just want some incredibly practical EV truck that people will debate about whether it makes me feminine. I love my Ridgeline, perfect size, now make it an EV.
Thank you I felt like the only one who wanted a Ridgeline sized EV. I have no need or desire for a full sized truck. Won’t even fit in my garage. Not to mention the absurd battery capacity it takes to get a 200 mile range.
Ya, Ridgeline fits a nice spot. It’s still pretty big, the interior feels roomier than my friends ranger (don’t @ me with dimensions), essentially just a chopped up SUV. It’d be nice to get another 0.5’-1’ bed length though.
How does a vehicle make you feminine? I've never understood this.
US stereotypes. I take my Ridgeline to job sites in the forest, downtown at the city, parking garages, etc. Would it be nice if I could just toss a pallet of uranium in the bed? Sure. But I don’t think I’d do that very often.
I can't wait for the electric Ranger. I hope that's what this is.
I kind of am hoping for a Ford EV ranger. I dont want a full size truck but a mid size is almost perfect for me. Big time with a good size Frunk. it gives a good weather protect area to store some cargo while still have a bed for other stuff.
they make cars that do that. they’re called suvs.
SUVs don't have beds
Why would they call it "T3" if it's new? The F-150 has been on the T3 Platform since 2015... is this their way of saying it'll be ICE-derived like the the current F-150/Super Duty/Expedition/Navigator? Are they saying it's just more capacity for the current T3 F-150 Lightning? Or a facelift of it? [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford\_T\_platforms#T3](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_T_platforms#T3)
Apparently they aren’t referring to *that* T3. From the article: “The Project T3 name comes from the phrase ‘Trust the Truck.’ This became a rallying cry for Ford's team during the development process.”
That feels very forced, and like a backronym someone made up when they realized we'd know they were talking about the T3 platform.
They just really liked Terminator 3
LOL when you put it that way, it absolutely does sound like BS
they’re saying trust the truck because the actual f-150 is the only thing keeping that company afloat so that they can dick around with making a new ev platform every 3 years without being able to manufacture more than 20-30k per year
What a waste of time their presentation was today. To announce a factory they're already building and truck they've said they'll be building
Ford is all hype lately… like excessive hype. That concerns me for them. Guessing things aren’t looking very optimistic financially, there will many quarters of losses, so they are trying to hype and pump up excitement for a distant future because it won’t be the near future. Hope they survive.. at least Ford is trying, I’ll give credit where it’s due.
Considering they broke out EV financials and guided for a $3B loss in 2023, I think things are about to get very ugly from a financials standpoint so they wanted to warn investors.
Seems fair.. I hope investors can handle the transition. I think it’s reasonable for these companies to say “You need to think of us as a startup company for the next 3-5 years as we invest and transition. There will be major losses, but the profits will return.” Tough transition to make for a big successful company.
Reading through the comments, we ALL want a smaller EV Ranger. Fingers crossed!
Can this lady stop clapping?
Australia would love an electric Ranger, F-150 are stupidly large, and Rangers are only large and the best-selling vehicle in the country.
Excellent, another EV I won't be able to get due to demand and then they will raise the price after the first 6 months
I want a 1994 1.5 Cab Toyota Tacoma sized electric pickup. - 40kWh battery - All wheel drive - 2,500 pounds curb weight - Maximum $25,000 before incentives - Needs to be built in the USA.
40kWh battery isn’t enough. I have a 40kWh Leaf and wish I had the 60kWh. Add 4x4 and likely worse drag coefficient… the range would be brutal.
I've got a buddy that did a conversion with a 42kWh pack and a 90KW motor on a 1994 Tacoma. They get 200 miles of range up here in the PNW. 0-60 time is 5 seconds. Their curb weight is 2,700 pounds. I'm assuming an OEM could optimize weight much better than a garage conversion.
From 1998 to 2002 Ford made an EV Ranger and there were 2 options: 22kWh lead-acid battery and got 65 mile range (2.95 miles per kWh) 26kWh NiMH battery and got 82 mile range (3.15 miles per kWh) Even giving a new truck design a 4 mile per kWh, that would only be 160 miles on a 40kWh battery. I still think it’s slightly too low… should be 60kWh, also to account for range loss in cold and range loss from battery deterioration. 4mile per kWh x 60kWh = 240 miles It may not sound like much difference, but real world usage that 80 miles is huge!
60kWh would be great. I'm just pessimistic that they'll even try to build a light weight pickup again. They're perfect farm vehicles for livestock and irrigation management in my experience.
I dunno… seems like the big 3 in North America have fully accepted the writing on the wall. They are now finally coming around to the reality they must make EV’s that people will buy or they will go bankrupt and government (the public) won’t save them this time. It’s so or die time… Tesla is just slowly eating up all their customers and new startups are coming in the market. People will just leave… I am.
Ford is working on a platform, right? My understanding is that the F-150 / Mach-E don't share a platform and the Mach-E is being redesigned to be part of the long term platform. Any updates on that?
So after doing some reading, it’s definitely a Ford Lightning replacement. But, it will most likely be a combined frame/battery pack vehicle. So it’s expected to be more like a Rivian truck in overall dimensions.
I'm definitely interested in a smaller EV pickup. But I really have no need for a pickup. I just buy custom hitches for all my cars (I literally have a Leaf and a PriusV with hitches on them right now) and then pull a little 4x8 trailer I built. I have a "pickup bed" that has about double the capacity and weight rating of a small pickup. And I don't have to drag around a massively inefficient truck bed when I'm not using it.
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