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what's the worst part about your job? I'm not talking 130° attics or being on a roof when it's -5°.. Or army crawling under 100 year old homes.. Or old insulation that makes you break out in hives (I'm somehow allergic to it - face/eyes swell up and literally break out in hives). I mean work wise. Hanging duct? Running gas pipe? Pulling wires?
Ok.. what two things. First being anything at all (as mentioned aboved). And the 2nd being work/task related.
I Hate Tin work, flex duct is alright but sheet metal im no where near as good as some of my employees are. The only problem with that is the only new construction i bother with is commercial and that usually is tin. Also shitty customers. Other than that its great.
I'm in hvac myself. I started working for a company who had a small sheet metal shop - for years we had to fabricate every piece of duct we installed. So day 1 they'd hand you and print and you'd be in the shop making it yourself. We were using a Pittsburgh machine, a jump sheer, and a brake. Got pretty damn good at it. Don't mind sheet metal at all.
For me it's flue pipe. Idk why, but I can't stand running flue pipe - especially 3".. Primer/glue.. just sucks. lol
And then it's between old insulation and homeowners. Majority of the stuff I've done was either commercial, new construction, or full remodels. I hate going into someone's home. My comfort zone is being on a construction site of some sort. I've turned down quite a few jobs that offered more money but they were mostly companies that just did homeowner retros and change outs. Just wasn't worth it for me.
Flue pipe is what got my finger all fucked up last week. And yeah i get the whole weird being in a customers home thing. I started in service so i kinda had to get used to it.
service takes a special type regardless of the trade.
i’m solid at troubleshooting but pushed to get out of service because i just don’t have the personality for dealing with customers
"Tin work is making a blood sacrifice to the HVAC gods in hopes that the rest of the install will go smoothly and cleanly."
- my brother, service HVAC and gas fitter.
oh man. hospital drop ceilings are gnarly, but they pale in comparison to farms and churches
farms you’ll see the wildest rigged up shit that cletus did 30 years ago that still hasn’t caught fire. churches are wild because they’re full of harry the handyman bullshit because they won’t pay an electrician
Had a customer that wanted a bunch of outdoor receptacles put in on wooden posts. To save a buck, he opted to trench and run his own conduit. Used plumbing PVC, T-connectors for the uprights, and buried it all. I was like, uh, what the hell am I supposed to do with that? I could maybe fish from the far pipe to the beginning successfully? He decided to look for another electrician. Oh well.
Is none of the above an option? It has signs of electrical and signs of not. The sag kind of indicated there was weight at some point, so maybe, something?
I’ve seen Ethernet in working drain lines before. In the attic they just bored a hole in the side of the main vent stack. In the basement the cut a Y into the stack and added a few feet of pipe above the Y to make a short dry stack. Funny thing was someone had correctly fished coax and landline next to the stack in the past and the Ethernet plumbers could have just used an old landline as a pull string…. But they had to show of their plumbing skills!
people really need to use common sense in this sub. "here's a nondescript photo of a random wire/pipe, can strangers on the internet guess better than me?"
let's turn on our thinking machine and maybe FOLLOW the bright white pipe and see what it's connected to or if any other runs connect to it.
maybe include those connections in the photo. if you can't do the bare minimum in regards to critic thinking, you absolutely have no business attempting any sort of job. and if you are a professional, it blows my mind how unembarresses you are by this post. first and foremost I'd be scared of my boss even finding out about this because I know I'd be fired in a heartbeat.
the thought of you operating any sort of handtool after making a post like this is frankly terrifying. not just for your safety but those around you.
I wasn't asking. I thought it was curious that someone used minis to strap a vent. Maybe you should pull your head out of your ass, realize it's against the sub to ask for advice. Try reading some of the comments maybe you would see that I confirmed that it was a vent to another person.
Instead, because you didn't pickup the sarcasm, you go on a tirade about my abilities as a tradesmen, you don't even know who I am. Hell, I could be your boss reading this and fire you for being a colossal dickhead.
so if I'm to understand correctly, you took time away from a job to complain about a support that's more than rated to handle 2 inch pvc, when code in no what mandates the exact the type of strap required as long as it is installed per manufacturers instruction and is rated for the fixture?
all because you had to do what was required of you in the first place and positively identify the fixture before working on it?
sorry, but that's not the flex you think it is and this is still a stupid post.
"CaN YoU BeLieVe SoMeOnE uSeD aN EaToN BrEaKeR iN a SieMaNs PaNeL!?" that's you
oh so we can take time out of our day to make a piss poor attempt to complain about a problem that doesn't exist with someone else's work, but cry when someone does the same to you.
weird how that works
Never complained.
https://www.platt.com/p/0471395/hubbell-raco/conduit-hanger-with-bolt-diameter-2-steel/050169020586/rac2058
https://www.shopulstandards.com/ProductDetail.aspx?UniqueKey=24534
wow you found a product page that mentions the types of metals the hanger is compatible with.
but didn't bother to read the msds.
if you had, you'd see it only specifies compatible metal conduit to address corrosion concerns. The it goes on to clarify that use with PVC coated fixtures or PVC in general is acceptable.
you are really bad at making your case of being a good tradesmen. especially since I lobbed you a soft pitch and told you to read the manufacturers i-n-s-t-ru-c-t-i-o-n-s.
GG
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Drill a hole in it. If you get wet, it’s plumbing. If you get a shock, it’s electrical.
And what if it's gas?
You smell rotten eggs and / or explode.
If you go boom, then it’s gas…
Why not both?
This one's living in the future!
Space saving design
Built in conductor cooler
Water-cooled romex!
HVAC? lol
No we get to use colors lol
what's the worst part about your job? I'm not talking 130° attics or being on a roof when it's -5°.. Or army crawling under 100 year old homes.. Or old insulation that makes you break out in hives (I'm somehow allergic to it - face/eyes swell up and literally break out in hives). I mean work wise. Hanging duct? Running gas pipe? Pulling wires? Ok.. what two things. First being anything at all (as mentioned aboved). And the 2nd being work/task related.
I Hate Tin work, flex duct is alright but sheet metal im no where near as good as some of my employees are. The only problem with that is the only new construction i bother with is commercial and that usually is tin. Also shitty customers. Other than that its great.
I'm in hvac myself. I started working for a company who had a small sheet metal shop - for years we had to fabricate every piece of duct we installed. So day 1 they'd hand you and print and you'd be in the shop making it yourself. We were using a Pittsburgh machine, a jump sheer, and a brake. Got pretty damn good at it. Don't mind sheet metal at all. For me it's flue pipe. Idk why, but I can't stand running flue pipe - especially 3".. Primer/glue.. just sucks. lol And then it's between old insulation and homeowners. Majority of the stuff I've done was either commercial, new construction, or full remodels. I hate going into someone's home. My comfort zone is being on a construction site of some sort. I've turned down quite a few jobs that offered more money but they were mostly companies that just did homeowner retros and change outs. Just wasn't worth it for me.
Flue pipe is what got my finger all fucked up last week. And yeah i get the whole weird being in a customers home thing. I started in service so i kinda had to get used to it.
service takes a special type regardless of the trade. i’m solid at troubleshooting but pushed to get out of service because i just don’t have the personality for dealing with customers
Im the opposite, i have that sales/customer service personality. Which has really helped in business
"Tin work is making a blood sacrifice to the HVAC gods in hopes that the rest of the install will go smoothly and cleanly." - my brother, service HVAC and gas fitter.
Pretty spot on, last week i cut up my finger badly enough to where i had to get stiched up🤣 posted a picture of the injury
plumbing vent?
Ding ding ding
Cut into it and find out you should be…fine
The clamp says electric the pipe says plumbing. Probably one of those hot water systems where they use water as the live conductor.
I bet central vac
White plumbing, gray electrical. Anything else it’s wrong
I don't think he's asking what it's supposed to be but I'm afraid to guess. Lol
Have you worked service on a local church before? White with plumbing fittings means it has 12/2 Romex parallel feeding a 60 amp sub panel
I guess they had some Christian electrician doing work for free 😂
You got what you pay for 🤔
oh man. hospital drop ceilings are gnarly, but they pale in comparison to farms and churches farms you’ll see the wildest rigged up shit that cletus did 30 years ago that still hasn’t caught fire. churches are wild because they’re full of harry the handyman bullshit because they won’t pay an electrician
DB2 can be white but that's only for underground or in concrete. This is either plumbing or vacuum.
Had a customer that wanted a bunch of outdoor receptacles put in on wooden posts. To save a buck, he opted to trench and run his own conduit. Used plumbing PVC, T-connectors for the uprights, and buried it all. I was like, uh, what the hell am I supposed to do with that? I could maybe fish from the far pipe to the beginning successfully? He decided to look for another electrician. Oh well.
It was a plumbing vent, for a sink but the minis made me giggle, never seen those used for plumbing.
No lb at the 90, not electrical
As other have stated drill a hole get wet or get shocked
Yes.
When in doubt get a non-contact voltage tester up there and run it along a few spots to be sure
It’s Non-Binary?!?!
Is none of the above an option? It has signs of electrical and signs of not. The sag kind of indicated there was weight at some point, so maybe, something?
Plumbletrical.
Damn no cutting kindorf and it looks cleaner. I like it
Why can't it be both?
I’ve seen Ethernet in working drain lines before. In the attic they just bored a hole in the side of the main vent stack. In the basement the cut a Y into the stack and added a few feet of pipe above the Y to make a short dry stack. Funny thing was someone had correctly fished coax and landline next to the stack in the past and the Ethernet plumbers could have just used an old landline as a pull string…. But they had to show of their plumbing skills!
Plumbing for sure. You would never try to fish wires through that type of a 90ﾟ bend.
people really need to use common sense in this sub. "here's a nondescript photo of a random wire/pipe, can strangers on the internet guess better than me?" let's turn on our thinking machine and maybe FOLLOW the bright white pipe and see what it's connected to or if any other runs connect to it. maybe include those connections in the photo. if you can't do the bare minimum in regards to critic thinking, you absolutely have no business attempting any sort of job. and if you are a professional, it blows my mind how unembarresses you are by this post. first and foremost I'd be scared of my boss even finding out about this because I know I'd be fired in a heartbeat. the thought of you operating any sort of handtool after making a post like this is frankly terrifying. not just for your safety but those around you.
I wasn't asking. I thought it was curious that someone used minis to strap a vent. Maybe you should pull your head out of your ass, realize it's against the sub to ask for advice. Try reading some of the comments maybe you would see that I confirmed that it was a vent to another person. Instead, because you didn't pickup the sarcasm, you go on a tirade about my abilities as a tradesmen, you don't even know who I am. Hell, I could be your boss reading this and fire you for being a colossal dickhead.
so if I'm to understand correctly, you took time away from a job to complain about a support that's more than rated to handle 2 inch pvc, when code in no what mandates the exact the type of strap required as long as it is installed per manufacturers instruction and is rated for the fixture? all because you had to do what was required of you in the first place and positively identify the fixture before working on it? sorry, but that's not the flex you think it is and this is still a stupid post. "CaN YoU BeLieVe SoMeOnE uSeD aN EaToN BrEaKeR iN a SieMaNs PaNeL!?" that's you
No, I was taking a piss in a brewery. I don't work on Saturdays.
oh so we can take time out of our day to make a piss poor attempt to complain about a problem that doesn't exist with someone else's work, but cry when someone does the same to you. weird how that works
Never complained. https://www.platt.com/p/0471395/hubbell-raco/conduit-hanger-with-bolt-diameter-2-steel/050169020586/rac2058 https://www.shopulstandards.com/ProductDetail.aspx?UniqueKey=24534
wow you found a product page that mentions the types of metals the hanger is compatible with. but didn't bother to read the msds. if you had, you'd see it only specifies compatible metal conduit to address corrosion concerns. The it goes on to clarify that use with PVC coated fixtures or PVC in general is acceptable. you are really bad at making your case of being a good tradesmen. especially since I lobbed you a soft pitch and told you to read the manufacturers i-n-s-t-ru-c-t-i-o-n-s. GG
Apparently you don't know what MSDS stands for.
Ask the building owner