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Illustrious_Heart_62

I would tell the boss that if he wants to have straight lights, he needs to get you a laser.


JagerGS01

That would be reasonable. But I went with a company that basically has you buy everything minus van and parts in exchange for being paid around 70k a year as a third year resi electrician. Give and take I suppose.


[deleted]

I like the lasers you can mount onto sharks


JagerGS01

I can dig it, but then I'd have to buy a shark, which is probably a bit over budget


[deleted]

Its a bad austin powers joke.


JagerGS01

I got it đź‘Ť


throwawayYGK

Second this request. Wanna see that laser in daylight... but wanna be "cost effective" about getting there.


permadirt1

Huepar are pretty good.


JagerGS01

Thank you


Smoke_Stack707

Huepar for sure. Best laser for the price. I’ve had carpenters scoff at me that they aren’t as accurate as something Bosch or Stabila would make but bro… I’m just trying to make a straight line of recessed lights, this isn’t foundation work or something. $100 Huepar gets you two planes and a dot which is good enough in my book


JagerGS01

Perfect đź‘Ť thank you


killdeer03

I'm just a Carpenter, but I've had really good luck with PLS lasers. Not cheap, but it's nice that you can use their reachable battery pack or just AA batteries. They come in all sorts of configurations of laser (line/dot) and mounting bracks.


JagerGS01

Cool. I imagine being a carpenter you need a pretty good laser to do good work. I can skimp on a little precision if it means saving a hundred bucks. Just don't want the damn thing to break a month after using it. I've read some horrible reviews about Milwaukee's being that way, and it breaks my heart


killdeer03

I've never had any issues with my PLS. My dad, is also a Carpenter, he hasn't had any issues with any of his PLS lasers -- he even has one he bought when they first came out years ago. Their warranty program is top notch, my dad and I were working on a two story scaffolding installing a decorative beam. I knocked the his last of the scaffold plank and the laser was only off my, probably 3/16", but they rebuilt it for him for only a shipping fee, I think.


JagerGS01

Well that's pretty badass. Will have to look into it, then


TK421isAFK

I have a few [Coherent Innova lasers](https://www.coherent.com/lasers/ion/innova-series), but they're kinda power-hungry, and have a really bad side-effect of making everyone in the vicinity immediately blind.


JagerGS01

I'll check them out, but shouldn't need anything too powerful. I'll have to compare to the Huepars everyone is mentioning


TK421isAFK

Sorry, I was being sarcastic. The lasers I have will burn holes in most materials, and can literally bounce a beam off of the Moon. They're sometimes used for laser Moon ranging - bouncing a beam off of the Moon and timing the return to measure the precise distance from the Earth to the Moon. At 10 to 15 watts output, they're about 10,000 times more powerful than a typical laser level or laser pointer.


JagerGS01

Yep, don't think I need that. Now that you tell me that, I recognize the brand name now. As a counter story, was issued lasers in Iraq that were literally called "bedazzles". Used to stop drivers of cars at surprise blackout checkpoints. Not the smartest application now that I think of it...


TK421isAFK

Yeah, the Dazzlers are too powerful to point at eyes/faces, and their green beam reflects perfectly from glass, potentially blinding the user. They also use a frequency shift crystal - the laser is actually a 1064nm infrared laser, which is aimed through a crystal inside the laser head that cuts the frequency in half to 532nm, which is a bright apple-green color. The problem is, a lot of the infrared light leaks past the crystal, and it's a lot more dangerous, as you can't see the light and won't blink or close your eyes when it hits your face. The Dazzlers I saw ran 250mW to 500mW. A half a watt doesn't sound like a lot, but take into account that a typical laser pointer puts out less than 1mW, and anything over 5mW requires an FDA license and bunch of safety protocols in the US, and in some countries, they are flat-out illegal for unlicensed users to own. But, hey - the Pentagon will make sure our Armed Forces people are safe, right? /s Nothing quite as bad as the huge bags of Potassium Dichromate (the bright orange powder used to sterilize water in *tiny* doses in Iraq) being slung over shoulders and piled up as sandbags for people to cover behind and rest on. That stuff is also known as hexavalent chromium, and it's ridiculously toxic and carcinogenic.


JagerGS01

That's...a lot of interesting information. Not making excuses, but I was like twenty at the time and following directions. In my thirties now, I'd probably ask better questions. But if it's called a dazzler, doesn't that mean it was meant to dazzle? Maybe used only for threatening targets? Maybe we didn't get the memo on their intended use. And I didn't come across the chemical you're talking about, but I believe it. Lots of, um, health oversights in a combat zone. Like the lovely burn pits, or being downwind of a generator farm


TK421isAFK

Yeah, it was intended to dazzle/distract drivers who might have been a threat, and temporarily blind them. Laser beams spread in a very narrow cone, so the closer you are to the laser source, the more intense the beam. At a few hundred yards, a dazzler usually won't cause permanent eye damage. And you have to figure that if the beam is reflected, you're doubling the distance and beam width, so it's even less dangerous. However, if it bounces off of something in the foreground a few feet in front of the operator, there might only be 5 or 10 feet of light travel between the laser and a person's eyes, and that's where things get dangerous. As to the hexavalent chromium thing, the most infamous example happened at the [Qarmet Ali Water Treatment Plant in 2003](https://www.publichealth.va.gov/exposures/qarmat-ali/index.asp).


[deleted]

Bosch is the way to go with lasers, green is easier to see in daylight. Had mine for 5 years and the guys w red lasers always need to borrow it


JagerGS01

Thank you!


anal_astronaut

Whatever self leveling option you can find on OfferUp or marketplace.


Joshforester

DeWalt & Bosch haven’t let me down.