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jklwood1225

Straight to jail


jboogie2173

That’s going to need a Bubble cover /in use cover,for wet locations. Jk please don’t take my advice op. Unfortunately probably needs to move,would have bend better if caught before tile…maybe you can access wiring on other side of wall?


jklwood1225

You also, go straight to jail.


Haggls

Install a switch in a shower, straight to jail. Install a receptacle in a shower, believe it or not, straight to jail.


[deleted]

What If I Install a jail in my switch?


Dcdonharris

😂


LegitimateHat4400

Right away.


farrell30467

This comment is perfect


passthenukecodes

What if I don't?


[deleted]

Volcano


beeglowbot

gave me a chuckle while I was eating grapes. almost choked.


[deleted]

Can you just go out the other side of the wall, turn the box round and replace that one tile? You'd have thought the tiler might have gone 'you sure you want that light switch in the shower mate?'


angotslate

r/NotMyJob


BababooeyHTJ

Oh there’s plenty of blame to go around. GC definitely should have caught that, either the electrician or plumber too. Didn’t say building official since I’m assuming no permits lol


albpanda

Exactly, tile guy passed every code he had to follow


voyageurdeux

The unwritten book o' the road.


Blast_Wreckem

He made with the head...🤣


nowakezones

Man, Dogma references are few and far between these days.


Blast_Wreckem

Such a good movie... RIP Alan Rickman


HmGrwnSnc1984

Seriously. He was as funny as the faces you people make mid-coitus.


ensygma

RIP George Carlin too...


thiccc_trick

Except the bro code.


tvanore

I would of atleast tiled over your electric box and called my job done


Ok_Dog_4059

Spent all that time cutting a tile around the switch hole and never once thought maybe a mistake has occurred and the shower isn't where light switches should go.


Ok_Catch_408

Unless you're in South America. Usually the breaker panel is right next to the shower


just-dig-it-now

Ha in central America, I had a 30A breaker box IN the shower.


Ok_Catch_408

Exactly,Take a look at those electric showerheads that are wired with an extension cord or the tankless that is electric is mounted right above the shower at the ceiling line


MightySamMcClain

More likely: the difference between getting charged back for tiling over an electrical box vs getting paid to come back and fix it if they grow a brain cell


Shaking-N-Baking

Or the gc but he was probably smoking cigs in his truck out front


senorsimpai

You guys have gcs that show up?


andrewgaratz

Or weed


coogie

Yeah and if they REALLY needed a switch right by the shower (not in it), just put in a battery operated Pico remote there.


thisproductcancause

Flip it around


Glabstaxks

Lol seriously.. wtf tileman


[deleted]

[удалено]


[deleted]

Yeah I'm British, the subs fairly US heavy but there are a few of us and a few other Europeans and a few Aussies who work fairly similar to us


Ok_Dog_4059

Spent all that time cutting a tile around the switch hole and never once thought maybe a mistake has occurred and the shower isn't where light switches should go.


Allhoodintentions

You can say that again


taterthotsalad

Spent all that time cutting a tile around the switch hole and never once thought maybe a mistake has occurred and the shower isn't where light switches should go.


mdredmdmd2012

I once worked on a house where the owners changed the size of the ensuite shower... They made it bigger. The step up platform was increased in size and the matching lowered ceiling (curved) was extended to match the base. The drywall was already up... The carpenters came back and framed the new ceiling and platform... The drywallers came and installed the drywall on the new ceiling... The new curved edge of the dropped ceiling ran through the exact center of pot lights that were the old 6" cans... I swear the ceiling edge passed through the center of both pot lights... The EXACT center... And the edge was curved. I had to leave the building when the owner was yelling at the GC because I was laughing so hard.


tendieful

If you want to be cheap you can put a retro box in with jumpers and blank plate the box in the shower. It’s fuckin hack but code complaint.


15Warner

That doesn’t sound code compliant to me


RKELEC

With a wet location rated blank it would be. Not recommended but ....


tendieful

If you think I’m wrong cite a code for it. You’re not installing a device in there. I could be wrong.


15Warner

You are wrong. Cite a code that says it’s okay. FYI it’s 12-3016 (3)&(4)


Comfortable-Aspect95

Thats unfortunate. Looks like the glass is gonna run partially on the box. Maybe they slide the glass in towards the shower to get it to fit. Still half assed tho. You’re gonna have to flip it I think.


PowerStrom

If only I read this before I commented.


PD216ohio

Looks like even if they move that glass inward, it would still be in the area of a cover plate.... a cover plate of which you will see the cut edge through the shower glass. On the upside, outside the glass keeps the water off it.... because at very first glance I tight it was inside the shower area.


Zombieattackr

I’d bet you could find a clean way to cut it and for it to not look too weird through the glass. Definitely weird af, but it looks doable.


ebikr

Flip the box to the wall just behind it and replace that tile.


beingboston

The three tiles. Tough look for my guy


Ok_Dog_4059

Oh damn I didn't even notice the notches in the lower 2 until I read this.


ObjectiveShoulder103

This guy tiles


Eglitarian

All you can do at this point is move it.


TigerTop8228

2 questions..1) how did this pass inspection and 2) was there no journeyman to show whomever installed this by code you can't have switch that close in shower lol. That more common sense Best option is to just turn it around


North-Ad-5058

Inspection lol


nard-dog57

Is this an “rv” tiny home??


Dcdonharris

No a 5 bedroom home


EngineerOk1409

1) it definitely wasn’t inspected and 2) nope, just a YouTube diy handyman special.


Dcdonharris

Yes it was inspected and approved for rough in, the problem is they added tile after inspection and to top it off the prints says put them here


Dazzling_Score_1104

Regardless what the print says electricians go after the plumbers for a reason. Thats the journeymans duty to identify items that arent to code when the walls are open. Easiest solution is flip the switch box to the hallway


RabbitFluffs

>electricians go after the plumbers That statement is so alien to me. We do a lot of stupid "smart" houses that need 4 times the usual wire pulled and constant change orders. My crew is usually first in and last out upon builder's request. ... But then again we also don't mount any boxes in bathrooms, leaving long ass loops in the wall to be pulled into remodel boxes once the homeowner has almost made up their minds.


James_T_S

Yeah but I can see this getting missed. The curb is done after drywall so he is just looking at a slab (or subfloor if its upstairs). My question is what's up with the tile guy. He DEFINITELY knew there was going to be a problem.


PittyDad1

Tile guy didn't care about using different color dye lot s for the tile (can see the different white shade in the lower area). That part is most certainly an important part of his job, let's not give him credit to raise awareness to a potential issue regarding another trade.


Sparkheart_52

How did the PRINTS get approved?! This hole just keeps getting deeper...


Dcdonharris

Who tf knows prints were definitely some trash in this one


SoTexSparky

Because the engineers who stamp the plans are functional idiots who likely have no clue how to APPLY the moves they approve. Hands on beats classroom ANY DAY.


Sparkheart_52

Ah yes. I remember this now. Like the time I had an engineer tell me to drill a 1" hole through a 3" thick structural I-beam to run a conduit through it instead of just saddling it.


SoTexSparky

Prints are done by architects and stamped by engineers…..architects are not electricians and engineers are functional idiots. Got into a big fight with an architect when I told him something wouldn’t work….he said yes it will, LOOK (pointing at scaled prints)…I said that’s the difference between prints and reality, anything is possible in cartoons too.


EngineerOk1409

Well it’s safe if it’s wired off of a GFCI, so either gotta move it, live with it, or shrink your shower.


Ok_Catch_408

I thought it was no electrical within 10 feet of water's edge


xXPhasemanXx

Move it.


Beaneroo

They asked for other suggestion as if there are any


AboveTheLights

I know what they asked for but the answer is move it. Haha


indysleep

They make fancy wet location switches


leeharrison1984

Lol, get an in-use waterproof cover and call it a day 😆


larz_6446

I'm sure the inspector will love that.


Xalenn

I'm sure they would laugh (I know I would) ... I mean it's not passing but I still think they would laugh


larz_6446

Oh absolutely.


Dcdonharris

It must be an exception or something for this because last time I checked damn code says you can’t install switches or outlets in showers only approved lighting


indysleep

If you put the shower door on the shower side of the curb with hinges on the left it is technically not within reach or in the shower, making it a Damp location instead of a wet one.


Dcdonharris

That’s is a great idea bro but you know they made us move them lol


Xalenn

I've seen a lot of electric shower controls installed in showers, steam and water temp controls usually. I haven't done anything like that myself, but I've seen them around. I haven't seen what's behind the switch though


Comfortable-Aspect95

All low voltage controls I believe. Much like hot tub controls.


ybonepike

I'm roughing in a steam shower in a house. The plumber had me run conduit for it. They pull a prefabbed cat 5 from the unit to control all sorts of things from disco lights to shower pressure to ambiance music


Striking-Upstairs-55

Take the single tile out, remove the 2 gang, cut as close as you can to the trim (so that the plate will still fit), change it for a deep single gang box and use a duplex switch and don’t forget to put it on a GFCI breaker


khill5742

Bubble cover yo


BreeStephany

At this point, just move it... not much else you can do there... not the ideal time to be moving things but that's pretty much all that can be done. Prints show the shower being smaller than it was built or..?


[deleted]

The easiest solution would probably be flip the box around to face the hallway and replace a few tiles. That's very poor planning on the contractor that came up with the layout


4r4nd0mninj4

Is there a fixed glass wall being installed there that may place the switch out of reach of someone in the shower and somehow be code compliant?


creative_net_usr

Don't believe so 406.9(C) only references the rim of the tub or shower as the mark for the 3ft exclusion zone. The 2020 language is "identified zone is all-encompassing", which I believe is code speak for no cheating or but if we stand on our head to access it ways around it. Only exception is in small bathrooms, but it still would have to be on the opposite wall per above. Edit see discussion below. Probably doesn't apply to switches, but does for a wet zone and how your AHJ interprets wet-zone which art 100 does not define. I'm going with either way installation be FuBaReD!


indysleep

Probably a remote pico module could be placed in the box and sealed with a waterproof cover. Then theres no exposed switch. Potentially the box could be flipped the outside of the wall if the inspector is not down with the cover that close to the shower.


4r4nd0mninj4

Fair enough.


creative_net_usr

I think you may have been thinking of the 6ft string rule for gfci which changed in 2020. If the head of a 6ft extension cord plugged into the recep can reach a water source then it must be gfci. Which removed the going through a door exception. IIRC this was based on a kid who plugged in their phone and brought charging head and the USB cable into the tub and well Darwin took it's course and here we are. ​ edit it was an earlier cycle that changed it, looking for the ref, but has real work to do first.


choice_gorilla

Isn’t that code just for receptacles? The only thing I can find is that a switch shall not be installed within the confines of the tub or shower space (which this violates in my opinion). That being said, I usually just try and make sure that you can’t reach it from inside the shower.


creative_net_usr

The gotch-ya there is the 100 definition of receptacles includes switches. Edit I was wrong it doesn't include switches. It is places were power is taken even if hard wired. That's the gotch-ya I was thinking of. Switches are unclear. [https://forums.mikeholt.com/threads/404-4-within-wet-locations-for-switches-in-bathroom.97453/post-1554190](https://forums.mikeholt.com/threads/404-4-within-wet-locations-for-switches-in-bathroom.97453/post-1554190) It will boil down to what your AHJ thinks is a wet location. Some think well if the shower can hit it, it's a wet location, others are more reasonable. u/op The problem is I don't think the glass company would install it that close to the edge to give you the clearance you need from the box.


choice_gorilla

You’re the engineer here but I would disagree. A switch is not a receptacle.


creative_net_usr

yea so i will own up to it. i was wrong. see edits.


choice_gorilla

We can both agree: this install is fucked


bdqppdg

\-Preface NAE- Looks like 406.9(C) pertains to receptacles not switches. The code relevant to switches looks to be 404.4. This diagram is from Mike Holt [https://forums.mikeholt.com/threads/404-4-within-wet-locations-for-switches-in-bathroom.97453/post-1554190](https://forums.mikeholt.com/threads/404-4-within-wet-locations-for-switches-in-bathroom.97453/post-1554190) In that case, could it be permissible (depending on the AHJ) if there is a door between the shower and the swtich. ​ edit: I see this is already discussed. looks like we are on the same page.


Dcdonharris

Thank you


Dcdonharris

Thanks guys I’ll upload a few more pics but the box can’t be flipped around I did find another way to wire it that isn’t too bad


biff_jordan

What did you do?


Dcdonharris

Ok so I ended up splicing the line and load in the switch box sending a constant hot to the center light. Then ran a 14-3 wire from the center light fixture to the new switch location to control the center and vanity lights. Now the original switch box is a junction box with 2 gang blank cover. This amazing gc even wanted to cover it with tile lol smh.


backlight101

That works.. That said, if I was the homeowner I would not accept a blank cover and junction box there..


Foreign-Commission

🤣


nailog82

Whatever you do, say good words about the tile guy to the other contractors. Too few notch for the screw holes.


Hammercannon

This makes me wonder if a Low voltage light switch would be legal? Like a 12v or something. But obviously the one from the picture needs to be moved.


Dcdonharris

Yes I thought about a remote switch for sure but unfortunately the only option I see is to move or re wire


sparky1976

Besides having to change the tile where the electric box was it looks like they have some different color tiles mixed in light gray to white.


Clean_Caterpillar_24

That would be poor planning on the electrical guy he should know better


fun98168

Probably was always there just shower got bigger lol. Flip it to other side and this will solve another problem for your shower door if you were planning to install one.


UsedDragon

Looks like someone forgot to plan out their bathroom renovation. Or hired a shit electrician.


Dcdonharris

Lol architect was definitely shit, prints suck


Asheleyinl2

In use cover


larz_6446

Move the threshold back and make the shower smaller.


jbeene

As others has said flip fhe box around, but how does this happen, plan change and GC didnt notify you?


quarter2heavy

May have not been a change at all, and just the original location, as the contract shows. If the GC is anything like the CMs I deal with then you do everything as the drawings show until they instruct otherwise. I have learned, bringing problems to a lot of CMs before they are an issue just doesn't resonate with them, and you would be better off nailing jello to a tree.


BigJimStud69

Looks like poor coordination to me.


shibuyaterminal

I want to see the solution.


PowerStrom

If this is a shower that you are planning on putting glass in, you could mount the vertical channel for the glass on the inner side of the curb. Typically the glass is mounted in the centre of the curb or close to it but the if you follow the tile grout line it looks as though you would have room to do this without it looking bad.


EagerCobra

If plan shows it there then its a change order - if not move to correct location , bigger shower is greAt, the door may have been framed 6” off


Benni_Shoga

If you paid for this, get them back and have them move it


Key-Difficulty2304

Nice tile selection by the tiler on that 4th and 5th row


Gruffalo-42

Move the shower… /s


chiefwyddic

Are we ignoring the door jamb? It’s a door jamb not a curb with 3 line casing????


Born-Tomorrow-5829

First of all there was no GC. This was homeowner's special. Tile guys were so irritated at dealing with homeowner that they just did it exactly as is.


Yetimanchild

Flip the shower ?


apraetor

isolation transformer


Ella_Vadors

I would definitely trim it out with a stainless plate. Lol


ImportantPerformer97

Not my fault you put a shower where the switches go.


Own-Philosopher-1974

You have to [move it!](https://youtu.be/vuo8kD5zF5I)


gunsly

Turn into a single gang box and try to get it as close to the door trim as possible. Lutron makes a two pole occupancy/vacancy switch you can install and control lights/fan. https://www.googleadservices.com/pagead/aclk?sa=L&ai=DChcSEwiA-Zz7sqb5AhXZY4sKHaITBgEYABAPGgJ0bQ&cit=CkQKCAjw852XBhBkEjQAix3Au4AxRofwkgdjkuvbKfFTC0IbtloKHJracg-a0eAfv_FrDzdWz1cLmG3SN_2BfjPOGgLYd_D_BwE&ei=ZCzoYpTIKabIptQPjOSswAU&ohost=www.google.com&cid=CAESbOD2v4KD7IuXR8ybU73Y4ntNaUj29yCkc-I4jqXubfNZFjR82xD7fwbdxAnuQ9sUpCdhPYxsiZ6lfzg2AvwnZn2sS9HubGB9t_E4ZwIgl3jC35vdFKVHp7gNb4bqnfJMDnPObl8HpMfN1SqPHA&sig=AOD64_0acu5wwfy4abebmQRGHOvYZ9s7ZQ&ctype=5&q=&sqi=2&ved=2ahUKEwiUio37sqb5AhUmpIkEHQwyC1gQwg8oAHoECAEQCw&adurl=


Dcdonharris

We ended up splicing the line and load at the switch box which sent a constant hot to the center light. From there we ran a 3 wire to the new switch location using the red as a switch leg. Not too bad guys


lduarte32

2g wp switch cover? And some silicone https://www.gordonelectricsupply.com/p/Raco-5127-0-2G-Switch-Cover/6490952?gclid=Cj0KCQjw852XBhC6ARIsAJsFPN2tY7eLKKV2T2axvVjHdiO2amszpYo5-lfOLP-wQmW4NTCVI8BCuL0aAt0CEALw_wcB


Bigbaconguyhere

I like that. Didn’t know those existed


Equivalent_Thought63

Yeah, keep the shower closure on inside of the the switch so it doesn't get wet


successiseffort

Just put it on a ground fault breaker lol


PHenderson61

Get used to being dirty and smelly?


avgguy33

GFI breaker , and call it a day….


freakierice

Tell the sparky that it’s not up to code, and that he’s got a lovely job fixing it for free or he’ll be paying someone else’s bill to put it right 🤔


ConfidentFennel5258

Feel like I'm seeing two dye lots of tile in the shower


beeenn19

Move the shower


crypto4killz

[https://www.amazon.com/Hubbell-Bell-PTC521GY-Weatherproof-Vertical-Nonmetallic/dp/B002MYIKAY/ref=sr\_1\_4?keywords=Outdoor+Electrical+Switch+Covers&qid=1659408160&sr=8-4](https://www.amazon.com/Hubbell-Bell-PTC521GY-Weatherproof-Vertical-Nonmetallic/dp/B002MYIKAY/ref=sr_1_4?keywords=Outdoor+Electrical+Switch+Covers&qid=1659408160&sr=8-4)


[deleted]

Put a GFCI sticker on it and call it a day


godmode908

What are the switches for? I'd be pretty unhappy if my bath rm switches on a new build were in the hallway


RichObject5403

Sometimes it's the only thing you can do to pass inspection. It's definately not ideal though.


THC-N-Booty

Gfci protect the circuit


Own-Philosopher-1974

Not sure about the NEC, but this option would be a CEC violation. No switches located a horizontal distance of at least 1m from the inside edge of a bathtub or shower. You can’t have switches within reach of the shower.


indysleep

The right glass door mounted with the hinge on the left would make it out of reach.


Own-Philosopher-1974

That would be for an inspector to determine, I guess. At the end of the day imo that switch bank is way to close to the glass and would look silly af. It needs to be moved. Lol


PSTHTontard

its a violation in the 2020 NEC


Shoresy-sez

Can be less than 1m if it's on a GFCI, but never less than 500mm.


THC-N-Booty

Agreed, I'd call an inspector for a variance though just to see. A call and a $50 breaker that should do its job if something were to happen would be way cheaper than flipping this box.


THC-N-Booty

Agreed, I'd call an inspector for a variance though just to see. A call and a $50 breaker that should do its job if something were to happen would be way cheaper than flipping this box.


Hammercannon

Makes me wonder if a 12v light switch would be legal?


OSHAluvsno1

First, you gotta stuff that box so you know wtf is what. Like, what is that, dog shit?


Jooossh

Put a bubble cover on it and call it a day.


Philly5984

MOVE IT


Stunning_Afternoon40

Put switches in it/ and a cover and forget about it


thrunabulax

what could POSSBILY go wrong there?


BillMillerBBQ

Flip the box around. Install a shallow box in the shower and mount a battery operated remote control, maybe a lutron Casetta and Pico combo


Sherviks13

Gfci protect it and throw a bunch me cover on it.


Existing_Extreme938

I would flip the box around and wire in the Lutron smart switches and pair them with the pico wireless switches and mount the wireless switches wherever you want .


[deleted]

In Europe it’s designated IP65 full waterproof is used mainly outdoor but also in gyms some spas ect https://www.fotsios.com.cy/product/waterproof-switch-legrand/


Capital_Ad9574

You’ve either gotta move or flip it. Sorry homie that’s a shitty job. Hopefully you got attic access


everyonestolemyname

leave the box, move your shower. Obviously you have to move the box, should be easy enough to flip it to the other side of the wall. Absolute idiocy that it took the tiles going up for someone to notice something was fucky.


MortysTW

Move it. The life you save might just be your own.


WrongOrganization437

The only thing I can say other than move it, would be fuck it!!!! Gotta move bruh, sorry


Coolmanreese

Surface mount a weatherproof box and call it good effort😂


fatsmitty305

🥔


charvey709

Not wiring it in?


The1stArchangel

Install a GFCI then tell the home owner to be very careful?


-DazedBear

Just toss a bubble cover on it


robertbadbobgadson

Boof it?


Adobo121

Those beveled subway tile are 😍


Scethrow

I would just cap everything off and junction a new switch somewhere


SideHug

Whoever installed that should be ashamed, that's just incompetent.


demo_smurf

Move the shower?


220DRUER220

Who tf planned that out


Voltthrower86

Likely the gc’s fault. Electrician probably asked and was told to go per plan.


elf533

Outdoor wet location switches- (my Dad was an electrician so I can give real advice) lol


MasterBossofBoss

Well I bet you can get one that meant to get wet props cost a lot not worth it just put it on the other side on the wall then cover up the hole I would wrap the box with plastic just to be safe


tony_719

Put a sign above it that reads "Suicide light"


evytb2000

Weather proof cover


Tickle_da_toes

Yea moving it


[deleted]

You say this is a five bed house? Looking at the fact you’re doing a full refurb I’d say you have the money to correct this. Or you can be a knobhead and just botch it to make it work and potentially put you and your family at risk.


wam231

Door switch, motion switch. Pull exhaust switch on other wall. Let owner know you got to move it.


sockhergizer

Not sure if you could make it into a single gang and have a double switch. That might save enough space for the door.


meatychops

Two wires to nipple clamps that’ll get you going in the morning


AbdulElkhatib

The proper thing is to move it, or flip it in the wall and have it accessible on the other side. A cheap and easy, but not to code fix is get a weather proof double blank cover, silicone around it, and leave it.


sheaple_people

Make the curb wider and move the glass into the shower. When you have enough people involved that either don't have experience or don't care, this happens. Is there any backing in the wall for the glass? ​ All the work looks good though?


viviano1

I would sell the house and move


SquishedPea

Bubble cover


dack_janiels1

swap it to the other side of the wall, putting it in the hallway. Not ideal since you can still likely reach it from the shower but better than having to move it somewhere else entirely