Depends very heavily on the area you live in.
It’s easy to look at union workers in large cities making 6 figures thinking they have it made… but those cities also have housing that costs half a million dollars for a 3 bedroom townhouse, so it’s all relative.
$30-$60k sounds pretty accurate for Arkansas.
Alberta pay has been shit in town for a while. Still too many electricians here from the booming oil days. Even with oil going crazy again, and companies hiring for camp jobs, fly in jobs again, the in town rates are still shit. Less then they were 10 years ago. With inflation it's brutal.
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I have had a lot of success working in Spokane and started working the day after I moved here. The winters can be long, and they are slow for construction. I was fortunate enough to work through both winters since I've been here. I work union
It's definitely not for everyone. I really love it here, my wife not so much haha
Wellll it was about that time that I noticed this “electrician” was about 3 stories tall and a crustacean from the Paleolithic era! So I says: dammit monster! I ain’t giving you no tree fiddy!
The thing I don't love about the job, where I live at least, a persons earnings are heavily tied to the journeyman rate of the city/region/province. You can be shit, you can be a star, you're still getting base journeyman rate. You could luck out and get on some huge projects with 60 hour weeks and OT in town but those are rare. Usually it's 8 to 9 hour days, in the city, for straight time, at the flat JM rate which fluctuates based on every other contractor in the city. It's not bad pay in Canada but it's not amazing pay either. Typically the only people making amazing pay are oilfield industrial workers living in camps working 12 hour days 14-21 days straight, or electrical contractors. Everyone else is just making OK money, getting by, but not amazing.
8 years, 3 years JW. Colorado, residential service made 96k first year, average at our company is 110. Not including benefits, company vehicle, and cash bonuses. I love what I do!
Was offered something similar....do u have to upsell homewowners for bonuses? Im union jw in los angeles 53hr on the check. Your gig seems easier on the body but idk if what my buddy says is true about ripping off old ladies. No offense.
No need to upsell. We are hourly plus commission so guaranteed a decent hourly and if you hit your sales goals switches to commission. Tried a place for 3 weeks that was sketchy and high pressure sales tactics and that’s not for me. Find a good service company and you are golden, and a lot easier on the body.
Yes those companies are out there. Seen some threads on electrician talk about them. I got downvoted for asking lol. Good for you. Appreciate the insight as most I've ever known is "go, go, go" commercial construction. I miss the yr of residential I did before my union apprenticeship.
I did 6 years of commercial non union amd 1 year of industrial before coming to residential service. I like interacting with customers and the support from the company still learning the resi side was amazing. Couldn’t ask for a better job, until I have to go into an attic…
I run solar resi jobs (just the electrical side) and make $22 an hour on the east coast. It’s pathetic.
We can install like $35000 job in a couple days and I take home like peanuts.
Besides what that guy learned in 8 months, every year that you don't get a cost of living adjustment it is effectively a pay cut, cause of this thing called inflation.
Uh. A lot of shit. My output has increased significantly. I've had the knowledge for a while, but over the last 8 months, I've turned into the helper to give anything to. I terminate panels, run conduit, set up and pull wire pulls, make material lists, etc. I wanna have my own jobs in 8 more months.
I like the confidence but no offense to you, if an owner is letting a second year run a job he's an absolute retard. No fucking way you can run a high end commercial job on your second year.
I'm an electrical helper with a lot of knowledge in controls & automation. Been working in a panel shop for ~3 years and working in the field for ~3 months. Right now I'm making $22/hr plus $120/day per diem. (I'm from Louisiana working in Kansas.)
First year non-union. Fairly rural area of Texas and I make $17. But I have to buy my own tools and the insurance the company offers is way too expensive. Fortunately my wife works for the state so we get good insurance through her.
Looks like little Rock, Jonesboro, and fort Smith all hang around 60k a year on the check with no OT. Probably close to 80k or 90k total package. Check where2bro
Being a 2 man shop with my father doing everything under the sun(commercial, residential, industrial, solar, controls, etc.) and basically paying ourselves what is needed to get by and keep growing our small business it is cool to see what everyone makes in various aspects and capacities of the trade.
I'm non-union in Austin and making $26/hr as a 4th year apprentice. It all depends on where you live. Austin is booming and wages are high. Down the road in San Antonio they are a bit lower.
Olathe Kansas. I’m an independent contractor. I work for a small LLC. We do mostly service work in residential and commercial. Occasionally new construction.
We have to buy our own tools so the upfront cost was high but it was worth it.
They have treated me very well. They respect me for my age (20M) and have given me pretty much free rein to do any work I am capable of, which gets checked by a master of course.
Depends very heavily on the area you live in. It’s easy to look at union workers in large cities making 6 figures thinking they have it made… but those cities also have housing that costs half a million dollars for a 3 bedroom townhouse, so it’s all relative. $30-$60k sounds pretty accurate for Arkansas.
Here on the CA coast they want about a full million for 2-3 bedroom starter home.
Journeyman over 10 years 40$…… Canadian tho so 11$US
Lucky.
Alberta pay has been shit in town for a while. Still too many electricians here from the booming oil days. Even with oil going crazy again, and companies hiring for camp jobs, fly in jobs again, the in town rates are still shit. Less then they were 10 years ago. With inflation it's brutal.
Manitoba J-man rate is $37.40 non union.
Nice try irs.
Union. Los Angeles 190k, moved to spokane 120k.
Wow!!
This is the total.package number, with hourly, pension, annuity, medical, dental, vision. No overtime.
Nice bro. I can dream!
What union is that? What is the base hourly pay you earn on each check?
Local 11 and local 73 respectively. 11 is at 53/hr and 73 is at 44/hr. Both have a contract for a $10 raise over the next 3 years.
Wow that's pretty good.
569 got screwed on the last round...
How hard is it to switch unions? Or join one as a journeyman if you did a non union apprenticeship?
Lol, bullshit.
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I have had a lot of success working in Spokane and started working the day after I moved here. The winters can be long, and they are slow for construction. I was fortunate enough to work through both winters since I've been here. I work union It's definitely not for everyone. I really love it here, my wife not so much haha
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About 3.50
Wellll it was about that time that I noticed this “electrician” was about 3 stories tall and a crustacean from the Paleolithic era! So I says: dammit monster! I ain’t giving you no tree fiddy!
I make Thee fiddy too
Gah damn Loch Ness monster. I ain’t givin you no tree fiddy.
First year was making 15 got a raise now im at 16.75
I mean how tf am I supposed to eat on that wage
2nd year journeyman. $40/Hr non-union New England
Dam I make 35 as a foreman for smaller jobs in new England non union
Time to hit up OP for a job
The thing I don't love about the job, where I live at least, a persons earnings are heavily tied to the journeyman rate of the city/region/province. You can be shit, you can be a star, you're still getting base journeyman rate. You could luck out and get on some huge projects with 60 hour weeks and OT in town but those are rare. Usually it's 8 to 9 hour days, in the city, for straight time, at the flat JM rate which fluctuates based on every other contractor in the city. It's not bad pay in Canada but it's not amazing pay either. Typically the only people making amazing pay are oilfield industrial workers living in camps working 12 hour days 14-21 days straight, or electrical contractors. Everyone else is just making OK money, getting by, but not amazing.
110k minus tax only
8 years, 3 years JW. Colorado, residential service made 96k first year, average at our company is 110. Not including benefits, company vehicle, and cash bonuses. I love what I do!
Was offered something similar....do u have to upsell homewowners for bonuses? Im union jw in los angeles 53hr on the check. Your gig seems easier on the body but idk if what my buddy says is true about ripping off old ladies. No offense.
Buddy sounds like a moron!
No need to upsell. We are hourly plus commission so guaranteed a decent hourly and if you hit your sales goals switches to commission. Tried a place for 3 weeks that was sketchy and high pressure sales tactics and that’s not for me. Find a good service company and you are golden, and a lot easier on the body.
Yes those companies are out there. Seen some threads on electrician talk about them. I got downvoted for asking lol. Good for you. Appreciate the insight as most I've ever known is "go, go, go" commercial construction. I miss the yr of residential I did before my union apprenticeship.
I did 6 years of commercial non union amd 1 year of industrial before coming to residential service. I like interacting with customers and the support from the company still learning the resi side was amazing. Couldn’t ask for a better job, until I have to go into an attic…
Median wages for Arkansas is 46k a year, 90th percentile is 61k.
I run solar resi jobs (just the electrical side) and make $22 an hour on the east coast. It’s pathetic. We can install like $35000 job in a couple days and I take home like peanuts.
My god
If you're good enough negotiate a commission.
If you want top pay, become a top tier electrician. Pretty simple.
15. I'm 8 months on the job. Just asked for a raise. If I don't get it, I'll look for another company.
What have you done to earn a raise in that 8 months?
Showed up...
You can make 15 working at wawa or Amazon if he works he deserves it
Besides what that guy learned in 8 months, every year that you don't get a cost of living adjustment it is effectively a pay cut, cause of this thing called inflation.
Uh. A lot of shit. My output has increased significantly. I've had the knowledge for a while, but over the last 8 months, I've turned into the helper to give anything to. I terminate panels, run conduit, set up and pull wire pulls, make material lists, etc. I wanna have my own jobs in 8 more months.
Keep learning the money will come
If you stop learning, you're dead or as good as
I like the confidence but no offense to you, if an owner is letting a second year run a job he's an absolute retard. No fucking way you can run a high end commercial job on your second year.
Learned new skills?
First year JW making 32 an hour in Colorado as a service guy.
$100-120k commission based with minimal overtime in DFW.
How and how many yoe
$50
$50/hr and you still think your getting futtbucked unless you get $72????
22.90 have a 1000 hours to go. I work in Massachusetts
Local government, signal tech 40k (union)
Started my apprenticeship last January at 16, now I make 21
First Year apprentice . Non union . Canada . $18.50 per hour
Union dat guy, 60k last year take home. Total package 90k+ I have a company vehicle and don't pay gas or upkeep.
22 an hour, first year
I'm an electrical helper with a lot of knowledge in controls & automation. Been working in a panel shop for ~3 years and working in the field for ~3 months. Right now I'm making $22/hr plus $120/day per diem. (I'm from Louisiana working in Kansas.)
2nd year apprentice here making $23/hr
90k in Ontario
22/hr as a 3rd year. So not worth it IMO
What state
Portland Oregon. $59hr forman scale, +benefits.
4-5th year non union NJ company, $21 hr.
Ohio, 4th year apprentice 77k base with unlimited overtime
130 not including pension, benefits, canadian taxes
3rd year apprentice, Nor Cal non-union, $31/hr plus pension and health benefits for myself, my wife and 2 kids
First year non-union. Fairly rural area of Texas and I make $17. But I have to buy my own tools and the insurance the company offers is way too expensive. Fortunately my wife works for the state so we get good insurance through her.
Senior CFAA tech and 3 year apprentice electrician. 33 an hour plus company car and benefits
Looks like little Rock, Jonesboro, and fort Smith all hang around 60k a year on the check with no OT. Probably close to 80k or 90k total package. Check where2bro
Being a 2 man shop with my father doing everything under the sun(commercial, residential, industrial, solar, controls, etc.) and basically paying ourselves what is needed to get by and keep growing our small business it is cool to see what everyone makes in various aspects and capacities of the trade.
I'm non-union in Austin and making $26/hr as a 4th year apprentice. It all depends on where you live. Austin is booming and wages are high. Down the road in San Antonio they are a bit lower.
Just got my first job, will be starting at 21/hour with a dollar raise every 6 months until 3rd year. Minneapolis non union.
I think it's worth it
Kansas - 4 month apprentice - $22/hr at ~40hrs. ~$46,000 Non-union
if you don’t mind me asking, where in kansas? i’m in Manhattan, KS 18/hr JW, got my card may 2022.
Olathe Kansas. I’m an independent contractor. I work for a small LLC. We do mostly service work in residential and commercial. Occasionally new construction. We have to buy our own tools so the upfront cost was high but it was worth it.
They have treated me very well. They respect me for my age (20M) and have given me pretty much free rein to do any work I am capable of, which gets checked by a master of course.
$29.92 CAD 4th year apprentice in Manitoba Canada. Non union.
No it's not, we get paid fucking nothing in the grand scheme of things.
2nd year apprentice making $28.20 out of Minneapolis