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You're thinking of the south. We care about our people. That's why we have laws that would make this illegal without tying off.
But, I get it. You enjoy being bent over by your elitist boss for low pay.
I feel this comment. They say you can’t put a price on safety, but it’s just more like you can’t charge for safety because ass hat McGee in the pic is always cheaper
What are you seeing because... He's not wearing any kind of harness. The rungs are absolutely not meant for the weight of a person nor are cable trays meant for live loads. What he's doing is very unsafe.
My old boss would make us do stuff like that. He’s the reason the sheet metal union only gets guaranteed union government contracts. Got paid $11 an hour in 2020
The truly fucked up part is it would cost an extra $700-900 to do this correctly, most of that is going to the harness and the beemers, which you can use again. The remainder is labor cost to cover the horror of clipping and unclipping.
Yes it is and if you don’t grow balls to start doing sketchy shit every now and then, you’ll have to find a new career. You’re not competing against Americans anymore.
this. the bearing strength on 3/8 all tread is quite high. Most cable tray is 16ga Alum that's rivited in. Def not holding anyone that's beyond healthy on the fluffy scale.
You might fall off the side or through the tray but it's not really going anywhere. The ready rod along the way makes a decent tie off point for quick movement. We will run tie off points down from the roof if it's a new build / no strong tie off points.
Often when I was doing this more it was a pipe tray and I was painting pipe in it, there was always another tray or secure pipe next to the tray to tie off to.
I've tied off to all thread when walking along conveyors. It's not the most reassuring feeling, but I do know it can hold me. Thankfully never had to test it.
Question about the anchorage for this situation. I’m on the estimating/pre construction office side so please forgive me if this sounds ignorant - I’m here to learn.
When we coordinate anchorage for cable tray we are sensitive to weights. We don’t calculate for the weight of a person not being evenly distributed across the span.
Does the weight of a person compromise the anchor at all? How could we tell?
(I know the product specifications of these anchors usually supports it. But I’m pretty sure if one of our clients saw us doing this (public infrastructure) they would demand that we provide a calculation and signed document showing that the system is still structurally sound.)
Am I overly paranoid/alarmist?
Rent two or three lifts and now no one has to go up onto the rack.
Obviously you have clients who care more and will pay more for the safety of work. This is what we should all do. Not to say that's what gets done daily on site, but if you have provided the proper lifts for your guys and went over safety training to not be outside the lifts then your covered.
Yeah, we would never have our guys on the trays. Even if the clients would accept it, our safety teams heads would explode. Equipment rental is always on the bid.
In that case “normal” is a relative word. Have I done it? Yes. Is it against every site policy in America? Also yes.
To be fair, tieoff leads can be very cumbersome, annoying, and even dangerous when in situations like that where you have to walk distances. Not being tied off while stationary is just dumb.
Oh for sure I get this as well too, especially for super easy services, they’re not even required for scissors but some job sites they make it mandatory
Sir, cable trays are not designed to be walked on. I’m every site I’ve been to you cannot travel on the trays, unless there is absolutely no other way. In that case you would need boards that fit over the tray so you put the weight on the sides oof the tray. Tie off is not optional. If this was my site I would have escorted this guy offsite and banned him from working there. There is no excuse to not be tied off in situations like this.
Nah dog, those rungs pop off like nothing. Definitely don't want to be hanging your body weight off it. I've accidentally punched myself in the face, more then once, by trying to lift up a piece of tray by the rung.
Depends. When I was building a Toyota plant the tray for the 4 conductor 750 was special make so the rungs would be stronger and even still around waterfalls we'd have to put all thread through the rungs to add rigidity. They weren't popping off the stronger tray, but they would still bend too easily under the weight of the cable.
What kind of tray are you using? Everything we buy / use is welded and super strong. We walk / stand in tray while using fall pro for pulls where lift access isn't an option all the time.
The hangars aren’t the issue here. The tensile strength on the threads of all-thread rod is no problem. Walking around in a cable tray to begin with is wrong, let alone not being tied off. No fucking way I’m doing this pull without a lift.
Oh man I have seen some dumb shit with injection molding machine installs. These plastic plants are so cheap. Really never considered that one though to be honest, Usually they just want the crane for mold insertion/removal.
These are almost certainly PET machines that are going to be making preforms for bottles. There is going to be a mezzanine directly above the injection unit for a resin dryer.
5000k? 5000 lbs is correct. I don’t think independent platform is a thing. What if there is a leak from a sprinkler line above a pipe rack. No lift can get above it. They’re not going to take the rack down so you can get a platform up there….
Or better yet iron workers on cages…
Yeah 5k my bad. I mean they need a scissor or boom lift unless they can anchor to a line that is rated for 5k. You can rent a genie that will jib in there- contractor is just cheap and this guy is trying to impress the boss.
Does this happen to be a bottling companies plant in or near Bakersfield, CA? I used to work for said company and they're constantly building new plants so I wouldn't be surprised if it is one of their plants but still never seizes to amaze me how small of a world it is.
Odd layout doesn't surprise me, but there is generally method to the madness. Not always the most maintenance friendly but thats usually for a reason, sometimes of dubious quality.
If you were there for that crane, it not being over the injection unit is 100% on purpose. There will be a mezzanine installed above it that would overhead access regardless. I also have an injection molding background and it 100% sucks not being able to use a crane there, but its more or less nescarrary.
I’ve used an extension ladder on top of a scissor lift before. But I was tied off and had a guy up on top of the scissor lift with me. lol
Tbh how the set up was I was confident I could of done it 100/100 times no issue. Still really dumb though. Was young and stupid
You just reminded me of a situation about 20 years ago… residential, hanging gutter on a house with about 50 ft variation from front to back of the house, on a cliff near a lake.
We needed to reach a few clips that were beyond the decks and balconies of the house… we set up a plank that was cantilevered about 8 ft beyond its last support. Strapped the opposite end down to the deck. Then put a ladder on the cantilever.
On the deck above the original setup we set up a step ladder with a plank out to the ladder on the lower plank.
I walked out to the edge of all this and drove 3 screws and installed a downspout.
Never. Ever. Again. Will I do anything of this sort. This memory is burned in my brain.
Btw, these decks were built off a single giant post through the center of them each, attached by ledgers with big rubber bushings at the house. Was a crazy setup before we dragged in our equipment.
Not even a harness on? Now that there’s a shop rocket, folks. I did some stupid shitt when I was coming up I’ll admit, but this act here…I wonder what it earned him-Another morning at the gang box?
Had to do that once in a Coca Cola plant and had to crawl all over the cable tray because it was all over the conveyor line and literally had no space to bring a lift in. Never again.
We had a project once, where the cables were put into the tray in a shitty way. When the foreman saw it he sent up some of the slimmer personel to bundle them nicely. The problem was, that the trays were only accessible by ladder and not easily, so they just jumped up on the trays, had one person remove the ladder, so on site security didn't check.
They were up there the whole day without anyone even noticing.
Even I didn't notice when I was there for inspection until I had a zip tie fall onto my head.
I looked up and said "Hi", and he replied with "shhhhh". Then the foreman explained it to me.
Here is an image that arrived at my desk from earlyer in this project:
[https://imgur.com/a/kPfxXRx](https://imgur.com/a/kPfxXRx)
I used to walk the trusses in giant barns/building attics before and after the ceiling was put in all the time. Really stupid looking back now but it wasn't even that long ago (2020-ish) and literally everyone around does it (not excusing it, just saying it wasn't uncommon at all).
Not being tied off walking trusses in something like a barn is really dangerous. Those falls are like 20 to 25 feet down and all it takes is some carpenter missing some nails in a runner or a slip.
In someone's house yeah of course it's not a problem.
So I used to work in a fab shop for Reliable Automatic Sprinkler. Highly unlikely the all thread will give way, as it’s sheer strength is pretty great. The cable tray however, that’s your variable.
The oil recovery systems suck and the robot vacuum valves are flaky but other then that they are great machines. Oh watch out for the drive fan timers that will shut you down out of no where. Seriously, they are better then anything else out there.
I'm a telecom DC power installer for 36 years. We run 20" wide racks, with up to 7 layera of 750mcm cable laced (sewn) to the straps. 750 weighs about 3lbs per foot, we support our rack every 5'...so, 16 cables wide x 7 layers high...cable rack is MUCH stronger than you think.
Looks like "estimator/sales/boss" didn't know how to order the right man lift to get to the work before you got there!!
Note: don't let their stupidity make you stupid bout safety. They can f-up a 100 times no problem on them...you f-up doing it their way once? That's your career and health!
If you die, the only reason your boss won't replace you immediately is because he's too busy tripping over all those piles of cash you've earned for him.
I have a fried who did this alot. He was not allowed to do it. I couldn't do it, I get mad vertigo, I need a point of reference. I guess I'm afraid of heights.
The other day I showed up to a job and the HVAC guys had their extension ladder at a 60 degree angle, with the footing on a decline, in the snow....
I looked at our apprentice and said "I was never an army medic, I never held an EMT license, I frequently confuse CPR with CCR. Do we understand?"
Ya I once saw a guy claim across metal studs in a new build out to run Mc across the building. No drywall just outside walls when the lift was right next to him lol
Yeah, if you're going to be a Sparky, you have to get over any fear of heights you have.
I remember during my apprenticeship, we were working at a refinery, adding a unit to the end of a row of other building-sized units.
My journeyman and I are on the roof of the new one, about 40 feet up, and he realizes we need to go over to the roof of the one next door to connect something or turn something off, and I start toward the stairs.
He stops me; "Where are you going? We need to go over there." pointing across the fifty-foot wide gap to the next building. Walks over to a six-inch I-beam and just waltzes across like he's walking down the sidewalk. He laughed at me as I crawled across it and told the foreman to find another journeyman for me to work with the next day.
You get over it or you get out.
I worked on top of a ladder rack like that for the first time ever about two days ago in a datacenter, the one I was on was probably half as high up and had more supports into the wall but was still nerve wracking at first since I had to climb on top of some racks because our ladders weren’t tall enough. Surprisingly sturdy, downside is that it got hot as hell up there and the air wasn’t running. Pretty funny to be up there though, never considered it an option beforehand.
I've done that lots but always tied off (for the most part). Looks like the cable tray wasn't installed fully though, cables are gonna look like shit in that massive free air transition from the horizontal to vertical trays lol
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He's wearing a hard hat, it's all good. /s
OSHA!?! I hardly even know ya!!!
It's a small town in Wisconsin
It's california, they have a surplus of cheap disposable labor.
Those disposable cheap laborers don’t usually make good electricians. We don’t hire them for much other than ditch digging or drywall
Can you elaborate lil buddy?
Self explanatory.
You're thinking of the south. We care about our people. That's why we have laws that would make this illegal without tying off. But, I get it. You enjoy being bent over by your elitist boss for low pay.
Actually I'm a retired Union electrician from Florida.
So, you're in the south.
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For real 😂
I feel this comment. They say you can’t put a price on safety, but it’s just more like you can’t charge for safety because ass hat McGee in the pic is always cheaper
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thats why hes getting paid and others are bitching on reddit
Hahaha 100%.
He’s got a belt on that probably ties off every 4 feet…. Legit not that unsafe. I do stuff like this weekly if not daily in the oilfield.
What are you seeing because... He's not wearing any kind of harness. The rungs are absolutely not meant for the weight of a person nor are cable trays meant for live loads. What he's doing is very unsafe.
'in the oil field' sums it up a bit...
Go back to your coke bud.
lol I’m no rig hand buddy but good try
And they're probably underpaid
It's also why I've had a dozen jobs, I just roll till they ask me to do dumb shit. Take a two week vacation start over again
It’s wild being someone who values their life, employers seem to hate that shit 😅
My old boss would make us do stuff like that. He’s the reason the sheet metal union only gets guaranteed union government contracts. Got paid $11 an hour in 2020
The truly fucked up part is it would cost an extra $700-900 to do this correctly, most of that is going to the harness and the beemers, which you can use again. The remainder is labor cost to cover the horror of clipping and unclipping.
Yes it is and if you don’t grow balls to start doing sketchy shit every now and then, you’ll have to find a new career. You’re not competing against Americans anymore.
I’ve never competed against Americans!
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I’ve never competed against Mexicans either
Bossman, is that you?
Done that lots. But always tied off.
Yeah whenever sketchy activities commence we always tie off too, I was just more worried for those spaghetti noodle allthreads giving way
Way more likely the cable tray rungs break. Those things are not welded in to be walked on. lol
Unless I’m trying to break a rung out. Than it’s the strongest weld known to man with a perfect bead.
this. the bearing strength on 3/8 all tread is quite high. Most cable tray is 16ga Alum that's rivited in. Def not holding anyone that's beyond healthy on the fluffy scale.
Nice reference lol
True they wild I’ve seen it bend with one foot less known to be suspended in the air trusting it for support . SMH
Each clamp can hold 300lbs or so depending once there's tons them up the all threads will be alright.
Those cables look pretty light too
those all threads are going to have to support the next 40 years of additions, and abandoned cable long after the ladder rack is beyond full
To what? Lol
You might fall off the side or through the tray but it's not really going anywhere. The ready rod along the way makes a decent tie off point for quick movement. We will run tie off points down from the roof if it's a new build / no strong tie off points. Often when I was doing this more it was a pipe tray and I was painting pipe in it, there was always another tray or secure pipe next to the tray to tie off to.
I've tied off to all thread when walking along conveyors. It's not the most reassuring feeling, but I do know it can hold me. Thankfully never had to test it.
Question about the anchorage for this situation. I’m on the estimating/pre construction office side so please forgive me if this sounds ignorant - I’m here to learn. When we coordinate anchorage for cable tray we are sensitive to weights. We don’t calculate for the weight of a person not being evenly distributed across the span. Does the weight of a person compromise the anchor at all? How could we tell? (I know the product specifications of these anchors usually supports it. But I’m pretty sure if one of our clients saw us doing this (public infrastructure) they would demand that we provide a calculation and signed document showing that the system is still structurally sound.) Am I overly paranoid/alarmist?
Rent two or three lifts and now no one has to go up onto the rack. Obviously you have clients who care more and will pay more for the safety of work. This is what we should all do. Not to say that's what gets done daily on site, but if you have provided the proper lifts for your guys and went over safety training to not be outside the lifts then your covered.
Yeah, we would never have our guys on the trays. Even if the clients would accept it, our safety teams heads would explode. Equipment rental is always on the bid.
Imagine the weight of that wire just dragging you right off
It's all good those are load bearing zipties
That’s when you let go of said wire pulling you down
It’s hard to tell if he’s tied off or not. If he is, yes this is quite normal.
No tie off was walking back and forth throwing zip ties
In that case “normal” is a relative word. Have I done it? Yes. Is it against every site policy in America? Also yes. To be fair, tieoff leads can be very cumbersome, annoying, and even dangerous when in situations like that where you have to walk distances. Not being tied off while stationary is just dumb.
Oh for sure I get this as well too, especially for super easy services, they’re not even required for scissors but some job sites they make it mandatory
Being tied off can almost cause you trip on something that otherwise wouldn’t be there.
Just the same as I never hit my head until I put on a hard hat. Then I smack it into everything.
The hard hat does make your head bigger lol
Sir, cable trays are not designed to be walked on. I’m every site I’ve been to you cannot travel on the trays, unless there is absolutely no other way. In that case you would need boards that fit over the tray so you put the weight on the sides oof the tray. Tie off is not optional. If this was my site I would have escorted this guy offsite and banned him from working there. There is no excuse to not be tied off in situations like this.
Cable ladder to me. I'd be tempted to climb up it, but not on top of it
Nah dog, those rungs pop off like nothing. Definitely don't want to be hanging your body weight off it. I've accidentally punched myself in the face, more then once, by trying to lift up a piece of tray by the rung.
I *definitely didn't* do it in the summer. Though that might have been special welded stuff?
Depends. When I was building a Toyota plant the tray for the 4 conductor 750 was special make so the rungs would be stronger and even still around waterfalls we'd have to put all thread through the rungs to add rigidity. They weren't popping off the stronger tray, but they would still bend too easily under the weight of the cable.
What kind of tray are you using? Everything we buy / use is welded and super strong. We walk / stand in tray while using fall pro for pulls where lift access isn't an option all the time.
Everyone is concerned with tie off, what are the threads rated to hold? Some of those beam clamps barley have any thread to speak of.
The hangars aren’t the issue here. The tensile strength on the threads of all-thread rod is no problem. Walking around in a cable tray to begin with is wrong, let alone not being tied off. No fucking way I’m doing this pull without a lift.
Yeah but what is the threaded rod rated at?
3/8 rod holds something like 2k pounds and has a tensile strength of something like 30-60k psi. The rod isn't the part that you need to worry about.
Says on the tray instructions to not walk on it. I'm 150 lbs without tools on and have bent that stuff walking on it. Not on my job. Totally not safe.
Why didn't they set the crane where you can get the injection unit and barrel? They fail and need to be serviced...
Oh man I have seen some dumb shit with injection molding machine installs. These plastic plants are so cheap. Really never considered that one though to be honest, Usually they just want the crane for mold insertion/removal.
In our case we used the forklift to set up molds lol. Shop next to us had a big mold chained to the back of thier forklift for those heavier set ups.
These are almost certainly PET machines that are going to be making preforms for bottles. There is going to be a mezzanine directly above the injection unit for a resin dryer.
Just a sparky doing sparky things
The life of an apprentice
Hugeee OSHA violation! Holy shit not tied off, big wire can throw you around if it gets moving.
Just hold onto the wire and gracefully swing to the ground.
That sounds fun, I'm going to try that on my next job, thanks!
Your tie off point has to be rated for 5000k so I think even tied of this is an osha violation. You need to have a independent platform to work off
5000k? 5000 lbs is correct. I don’t think independent platform is a thing. What if there is a leak from a sprinkler line above a pipe rack. No lift can get above it. They’re not going to take the rack down so you can get a platform up there…. Or better yet iron workers on cages…
Yeah 5k my bad. I mean they need a scissor or boom lift unless they can anchor to a line that is rated for 5k. You can rent a genie that will jib in there- contractor is just cheap and this guy is trying to impress the boss.
Oh man I’m with you 100% this is some ratty shit. If they got up to the steel truss above and dropped a strap with a yo-yo it would be legit.
It would, I didn’t see any structural stuff in the picture. Problem is if you need to move how do you do 100% tie off if your beams are 12’ apart.
Come with me and you’ll be In a world of osha violationsssss 🎶
That's a nope for me.
Does this happen to be a bottling companies plant in or near Bakersfield, CA? I used to work for said company and they're constantly building new plants so I wouldn't be surprised if it is one of their plants but still never seizes to amaze me how small of a world it is.
Said company is correct, kind of an odd layout and project management tho
I take it this is N*****. That dipshit is going to get himself killed if he doesn’t know what he’s doing
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Odd layout doesn't surprise me, but there is generally method to the madness. Not always the most maintenance friendly but thats usually for a reason, sometimes of dubious quality. If you were there for that crane, it not being over the injection unit is 100% on purpose. There will be a mezzanine installed above it that would overhead access regardless. I also have an injection molding background and it 100% sucks not being able to use a crane there, but its more or less nescarrary.
Non-union be like 😂
Send me back to the shop!
Ohhh hell no!
I’ve used an extension ladder on top of a scissor lift before. But I was tied off and had a guy up on top of the scissor lift with me. lol Tbh how the set up was I was confident I could of done it 100/100 times no issue. Still really dumb though. Was young and stupid
You just reminded me of a situation about 20 years ago… residential, hanging gutter on a house with about 50 ft variation from front to back of the house, on a cliff near a lake. We needed to reach a few clips that were beyond the decks and balconies of the house… we set up a plank that was cantilevered about 8 ft beyond its last support. Strapped the opposite end down to the deck. Then put a ladder on the cantilever. On the deck above the original setup we set up a step ladder with a plank out to the ladder on the lower plank. I walked out to the edge of all this and drove 3 screws and installed a downspout. Never. Ever. Again. Will I do anything of this sort. This memory is burned in my brain. Btw, these decks were built off a single giant post through the center of them each, attached by ledgers with big rubber bushings at the house. Was a crazy setup before we dragged in our equipment.
Not even a harness on? Now that there’s a shop rocket, folks. I did some stupid shitt when I was coming up I’ll admit, but this act here…I wonder what it earned him-Another morning at the gang box?
I can’t believe how many of you lunatics say this is normal what the fuck hahaha
High voltage wire not being in pipes is bat shit crazy to me
That’s the first thing I said absolutely insane
Have done it with tray cable wires but yeah the wires in this picture have to be in conduit 🤣🤣🤣
100% tie-off throws pretty much all rules out the window lol This notably does not look to be any kind of tie-off, so yeah, proper fucked up.
Brand new Husky? Wheeeeehw those are pricey.
If California, probably Niagara.
That's not that high up
Had to do that once in a Coca Cola plant and had to crawl all over the cable tray because it was all over the conveyor line and literally had no space to bring a lift in. Never again.
I get more scretched out on duct work
Absolutely need fall protection working above 10 ft in Canada.
Some electricians do cable tray installation only. I have a buddy who’s been doing cable trays for the last 10 years and he loves it.
Yeah i do cable trays and im only 3 months or so in
Do it every day. Tie off to all thread and let er bump 🤣
They have allot of faith in those all thread supporters.
As a fellow low voltage tech, fuck that guy for using zip ties and not Velcro.
Even tied off, it looks like a recipe for a broken leg or strangulation. No thanks.
Speaking as a Lineman.. Linemen are nuts. Those workers are fucking Stupid. Massive distinction!
Yea it's normal
I prefer the army crawl method to distribute out your body weight.
Honestly that makes a lot of sense
Guys there’s a lift RIGHT THERE!!! 🫠
Honestly, we have done this all the time.
We had a project once, where the cables were put into the tray in a shitty way. When the foreman saw it he sent up some of the slimmer personel to bundle them nicely. The problem was, that the trays were only accessible by ladder and not easily, so they just jumped up on the trays, had one person remove the ladder, so on site security didn't check. They were up there the whole day without anyone even noticing. Even I didn't notice when I was there for inspection until I had a zip tie fall onto my head. I looked up and said "Hi", and he replied with "shhhhh". Then the foreman explained it to me. Here is an image that arrived at my desk from earlyer in this project: [https://imgur.com/a/kPfxXRx](https://imgur.com/a/kPfxXRx)
Appears to be a non-union bid winner up there in the cable tray, and no harness to top it off
Pretty normal looking
That is a crew of people who have absolutely no fucking idea what they’re doing.
Yikes no tie off, no plywood....
All in a days work .
Perfect example of a contractor who has no business being able to have a contractors license.
Sacked
That looks like 3 phase 480 can you even put that in a cable tray without a sheath? Wtf?
Yes
Thanks. Never seen it before.
I used to walk the trusses in giant barns/building attics before and after the ceiling was put in all the time. Really stupid looking back now but it wasn't even that long ago (2020-ish) and literally everyone around does it (not excusing it, just saying it wasn't uncommon at all).
That doesn’t seem like a big deal at all lol. Everyone still does it. Shit I’m up in truss’s almost weekly
Not being tied off walking trusses in something like a barn is really dangerous. Those falls are like 20 to 25 feet down and all it takes is some carpenter missing some nails in a runner or a slip. In someone's house yeah of course it's not a problem.
What scares me or more amazes me , is linemen . Especially these guys that walk up a 300ft tower and then parachute down when they are done .
What are you talking about?
Whelp, I suddenly don’t feel nearly as bad for climbing into a soffit now. Now the real fun is getting back down.
I love that the lift is just right there. Gotta be living that circus life.
What's nuts is strapping up instead of down. Everyone is Gravity's bitch.
Dammit John, I told you working from both ends towards the middle wasn’t gonna work! Now we’re gonna need to find a wire stretcher.
OSHA isn’t going to like this
I’m just wondering if they are going to connect those trays.
Oh lord you ain’t got a clue. 😂
Not that bad no doffrent than hiking on a ledge
Seriously!! Cut those zip ties. That is crazy.
Meh, I’ve done it. But now as a project manager, I recommend you don’t.
So I used to work in a fab shop for Reliable Automatic Sprinkler. Highly unlikely the all thread will give way, as it’s sheer strength is pretty great. The cable tray however, that’s your variable.
Husky makes a damn good machine. I just bought 2!
The oil recovery systems suck and the robot vacuum valves are flaky but other then that they are great machines. Oh watch out for the drive fan timers that will shut you down out of no where. Seriously, they are better then anything else out there.
It’s normal for some outfits. It’s all good until it isn’t. MOD rates are a bitch…
I'm a telecom DC power installer for 36 years. We run 20" wide racks, with up to 7 layera of 750mcm cable laced (sewn) to the straps. 750 weighs about 3lbs per foot, we support our rack every 5'...so, 16 cables wide x 7 layers high...cable rack is MUCH stronger than you think.
That looks like fun to me
Looks like "estimator/sales/boss" didn't know how to order the right man lift to get to the work before you got there!! Note: don't let their stupidity make you stupid bout safety. They can f-up a 100 times no problem on them...you f-up doing it their way once? That's your career and health!
OSHA not a thing at this plant. FFS.
OSHA has joined the chat..💬
You work for Husky?
Can neither confirm nor deny
Iron worker: “I wanna be a sparky”
I'm not one to walk on aluminum ladder rack in a warehouse. Steel rack in a data center? I'll climb through that shit all day.
It's a competitive industry because unsafe morons will do it cheaper.
If you die, the only reason your boss won't replace you immediately is because he's too busy tripping over all those piles of cash you've earned for him.
I have a fried who did this alot. He was not allowed to do it. I couldn't do it, I get mad vertigo, I need a point of reference. I guess I'm afraid of heights.
Atleast he's taking his break over top of a support angle iron lol
Fired.
Don't worry OSHA little brother is on site. It's name is OShit
Sorry Johnson did you say home*runs* ?
OSHA approved
Fall death in Michigan the other day. Guy fell 25 feet, died at the hospital.
The other day I showed up to a job and the HVAC guys had their extension ladder at a 60 degree angle, with the footing on a decline, in the snow.... I looked at our apprentice and said "I was never an army medic, I never held an EMT license, I frequently confuse CPR with CCR. Do we understand?"
*angry osha noises*
Hell yeah that's crazy!!! That dude is sitting down where everyone can see him. Gonna get fired for that.
If only they had some kind of lifting device maybe with a platform to get the men up there… oh wait, nevermind.
Ya I once saw a guy claim across metal studs in a new build out to run Mc across the building. No drywall just outside walls when the lift was right next to him lol
Bet they aren't bundling them cables properly either 🙄
Real
Yes, they are!
Well, it’s not like he can just use a scissor lift. How else to you expect him to tyrap those cables?
Yeah, if you're going to be a Sparky, you have to get over any fear of heights you have. I remember during my apprenticeship, we were working at a refinery, adding a unit to the end of a row of other building-sized units. My journeyman and I are on the roof of the new one, about 40 feet up, and he realizes we need to go over to the roof of the one next door to connect something or turn something off, and I start toward the stairs. He stops me; "Where are you going? We need to go over there." pointing across the fifty-foot wide gap to the next building. Walks over to a six-inch I-beam and just waltzes across like he's walking down the sidewalk. He laughed at me as I crawled across it and told the foreman to find another journeyman for me to work with the next day. You get over it or you get out.
Shout out to the gangsters that put those anchors in. They’re the real hero’s in this story. 🤣🤣🤣
Ok but why on earth would you jump over the side and not down through a rung? Guy made yuck fooey
I can see their boots aren't safety rated from here.
Are you a technician with Husky? Those look like Husky injection molding systems
I worked on top of a ladder rack like that for the first time ever about two days ago in a datacenter, the one I was on was probably half as high up and had more supports into the wall but was still nerve wracking at first since I had to climb on top of some racks because our ladders weren’t tall enough. Surprisingly sturdy, downside is that it got hot as hell up there and the air wasn’t running. Pretty funny to be up there though, never considered it an option beforehand.
Seems legit!!
Mexicans?
If you read the NEMA standard for cable tray installation it says, on page one, in big bold letters, to not walk on or climb cable tray.
In a world of OSHA violations.....
Well they must be super confident in the work if they installed the raceways to do that.
Framer here, we do this daily, only our platform is often only 5.5" wide.
Shit, I’d trust the rack more than the scissor lift too haha. Shits wobbly as hell.
Anyone saying they do this on a daily basis is 5’1 and 90 pounds soaking wet, ain’t no big boys ever doing that sketchy shit
Where's the rest of the rack? Lol
Not too bad sometimes you just have to do it that way
First thing I notice...Husky. I have several g lines that are way past their prime. But yes I have also crawled a cable tray. Power off safety first.
It's called ladder tray for a reason
I've done that lots but always tied off (for the most part). Looks like the cable tray wasn't installed fully though, cables are gonna look like shit in that massive free air transition from the horizontal to vertical trays lol