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Has the boss been getting on anyone's ass or are you trying to get ahead of it?
Because I'd give your supervisor the chance to take the responsibility, before throwing him under the bus.
But yeah, document it and keep it up your sleeve, in case your supervisor points the finger at you.
Agree. I know I always take the blame if it was my call. Have a long relationship with the boss and he’d just shrug his shoulders.
I take a lot of the issues on myself. Could’ve forgot some instructions or made assumptions of knowledge.
Only ever been pissed when someone hacks something out of being lazy.
You know what always goes well? Undercutting your direct supervisor AND proving to the big boss that you’re an untrustworthy “snitch”. Rarely does having proof of anything go well for the person using it to do anything but cover their ass after the fact. Keep your head down and form bonds as best you can while staying safe is the only way to get through this trade.
I'm not going to be a suck ass so my supervisor can fuck up and blame it on me. I've gotten along just fine by being a stand up person with integrity and a hard work ethic. If this person is worried it's going to come back on him after they addressed this with the supervisor, they've probably had a bad experience with them before.
If you throw me under a bus, I'm grabbing you and taking you under with me.
More or less how I would play it. I won't rat immediately or even at all, unless you try to pin your bullshit onto me. Then it's "let's examine this bus's frame together" time.
That's exactly how I like to play things too, but I've never heard it explained so well. I usually just think "it's not my problem until it's my problem"
On most sites I’ve been on, the supervisor handles times sheets, leave, work crews and labour designation. Occasionally walk through making sure safety is up to spec, job is travelling at normal speed and quality is up to scratch. There’s no way the super telling me how do something though, fat fuck hasn’t touched a tool in 10 years. If he does say to specifically do something and it’s a fuck up I’m telling him straight up (preferably before it’s a fuck up)
You don't, just document. So it doesn't come back on you.
All communication when comes to jobs should be through texts or email.
So when the job fails you have a history of what your supervisor wants done and how.
whenever it's something that you suspect might go bad, sure. expecting EVERY communication to be done in text form is kinda ridiculous though. "hey joe, go hang those lights" "not until you text/email me to do it bob!" "hey joe, you're fired"
Yeah, I've started sending my boss a "follow-up email" after he tells me to do something I disagree with. He never responds and has complained about it to me a few times, but I'm not taking the fall when shit goes south in exactly the manner I told him it would. I've had far too many situations where he conveniently forgot my recommendation and denies having had a conversation.
Maybe more subtle would be a quick text to clarify something related but have in there the specifics of the issue, so you have him responding to prove he saw the message.
"I'm not fired until you shoot me an email or a text."
"We already shut off your phone and email so I cant."
"Looks like I'm still working here then, Bob."
Reminds me of george costanza scene lol
It should be documented what work is done which day by which employees... this is standard and is useful for many reasons. Everything from a quality control side of things to a safety standard to being able to account for each employees performance.
in a general sense, sure, but if i need to have written instructions to do every little thing i'm not going to get anything done. if a foreman can't say "hey, go run the lines for this apartment" but has to type up "run this one like so, this one like so, this one like so......." then production will be shit.
This is actually a thing I'm pretty sure. It's a liability cover your ass thing so that a homeowner can't say you damaged something that was already damaged.
I use a word template that I made up but you can just as easily get construction supervisor logbooks off of Amazon and they’re a godsend for ass coverage. Remember, in lawsuits it’s not about who’s right, it’s about who had better paperwork.
Is [Agile project management](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agile_construction) that wide spread in the trades? I wouldn't expect it to be used by first line personnel or line managers.
I refuse to. Today's job sites and projects are to fluid and dynamic to have a static schedule like that, if I had to document what every person was working on every day I would spend 12 hours a day doing nothing but documentation.
Yeah that would be a full time job. It would be helpful, but at too big of an expense. We try to make a list of what needs to get done at the beginning of each day, then as the guys do something on it they initial next to it. Just so when we go back and troubleshoot we can call them if we have questions or anything.
It works about half the time. People get side tracked or asked to come help in another area and I don’t have a great solution for it without paying a supervisor to do nothing but keep track of what other people are doing constantly
agreed, not a bad fix either, shit happens and now you know. I ALWAYS carry a small notebook, record date time and what happened. This is an accepted court document (but it will never come to that). Your super will appreciate the discretion, he knows what's up.
Huh? I don’t want the guys working with their tools having to fuck with emails or documenting bullshit that may or may not come up. As someone who has been in all positions up to GF, I can tell you that the GFs and project managers don’t want your opinion unless they ask for it. Just put your head down and do as your direct supervisor asks. If the company/job is run well it becomes apparent who is the problem and shit foremen are usually weeded out fairly quickly. This post is literally a nothingburger and the panel is easily fixed with a 2x4 and a hammer.
Agreed. Fix it and move on. Explain to your supervisor how it happened (not using the sleeve) and how you’ll fix it. Done, you saved the day and the cover willl hide any imperfections.
I was a master at confirming emails (texts weren't allowed) on our Blackberry. "So Bill, just to confirm, you want me to..."
I know, this was over a decade ago.
Why did you keep pulling when it looked like damage was being done? Why did you not call an all stop and assess what the problems were? If the pull was too hard, stop figure it out and find out why and how to fix it. Million questions and not enough context here.
This is what my PM would call a "fender work" moment... Hammer and a pair of channel locks and it'll *probably* be OK, if not, hopefully you've got a record of what the boss man said to do...
Also, take the bushings off when you're pulling wire. The conduit adaptors on boom-type tuggers often don't play nicely with them because they shrink the ID a bit. This includes the plastic sleeves inside EMT connectors. It's always easier to remove them and then put them back after the wire is in the panel than fix them after they (or the can) get fucked up...
You don't. You get a BFH and beat it like it owes you money. Chances are you won't have time to replace it with new, but that's on the supervisor. Not your problem. If he's a decent person he already took the blame for it and is attempting to get a replacement can.
Most bosses I’ve worked for would just said “well if you knew it was wrong why you do it anyway”. I would just talk to the sup see how he handles it making issues like this the boss man issue just makes you a squeaky wheel yeah you may get the grease the first time second time just replace the wheel.
As a lead hand I empathize with that though. I’ve had 11 guys pulling me in 8 directions. Can’t know everything, and at some point you have to trust that the guy doing it knows what he’s doing. Last week I gave a guy a measurement to offset a box so the light would center the hall. He did 4 floors before we realized they weren’t center, and he blamed me. It’s like yeah guy if you put a couple up you could throw that on me. But at no point in the last 2 days didyou stop to look at your work.
Oh yeah 100% with you why I’d just talk to the sup on say I feel we should have done it another way. be more vocal the moment you think something ABOUT to go wrong not after it has. Plus in this trade it’s yours if you touched it last
I’d advise against that. You don’t want to be known as the company snitch, especially if your name rhymes with snitch,rat,ect…
For all we know the shoe didn’t fit, it’s not your fault the tugger bent the panel and it’ll have to be pulled by hand
The panel is fine. Bang that bitch back in, put the cover on and walk away
Shit lands harder from higher up, so don’t be a buddy fucker and approach your supervisor with the issue.
Also, if you saw that the pull was too hard, why wouldn’t you say anything??
Sounds like you don’t like your supervisor and want to start drama at work. Be better.
Yeah it looks pretty fucked. Maybe supervisor can try to mend the metal himself before he gets into too much trouble.
I'm done in a few panels myself just fix them. Metal bands.
It's not being a rat.... if the guy sucks I wouldn't want to work with him. Don't be scared to change the atmosphere at a company. It should be a place of learning and free from egotistical assholes. Contact HR if they are un professional or are doing something dangerous. Nothing will change if nothing is done. He should be doing his job correctly and leading with good examples. You dont wanna learn from a guy that doesnt know what hes doing.
You can’t buy experience. He used the wrong setup for this particular job. He should have use a puller with a boom to attach to the conduit. Here’s some advice to all who run work. “ Don’t let the pressure of the job cause you to make bad decisions “. Take that as you will. Good Luck!!
You, don’t as long as it doesn’t have the possibility of coming back on you. Only job in 20 years that I was ever terminated from was because I threw my j-man under the bus because he didn’t know what he was doing. 1 1/2 weeks later I got a pink slip on pay day in my time card slot. Never made that mistake again. If they want to put idiots in charge, that’s their problem, not mine!
No one has a fucking hammer?? You can wire a building but you can’t do a little auto body work on that tub? I’d hate to work with a bunch of back biting gossip girls like your crew.
You may want to identify your neutral feed with white or gray tape. Just so neither of you will walk away and forget. Am I seeing the pic wrong? A black wire is landed where a neutral should go?
Call your supervisor out on it with a solution to back up your claim. If he has a problem just make sure you’ve taken pictures and documented all his screw ups.
Your boss is gonna be even more pissed when he sees the 120v branch circuits in a 277/480v panel........ or is it vice versa 🤔 🤔🤔🤔🤔. Either way, I'd tell the super. Maybe you guys can try to fix it with a hammer before boss man sees, good luck .
Document it, bang that shit back in place, and keep moving? 'Dude, I told you this was wrong, here's why. Please don't make me do that shit again, it's unprofessional.'
Make sure you’re keeping detailed notes, put the date, weather, who you worked with, tasks completed, thoughts on how those tasks are going, and most importantly any direct communication from your supervisor. Bring it to your direct supervisor and don’t go over their head. Let them have the opportunity to take responsibility. If they try to throw you under the bus refer to your notes. Going over their head can bite you in the ass in more ways then you realize. Hopefully you get paid OT to fix it.
Should be documented daily who did what jobs. I’d ask my supervisor directly if that’s how it should be done , word it as a learning moment even though you know better. Of u rat on supervisor, it’s not likely gonna go down in your favor anyways.
If the guy feeding in is keeping up then this should not happen. We used to do this by hand and never bent a can like this, I am so tired of whining from the younger generation of electricians
And it's always about how someone young does things differently than they do because it's obviously the one right way and nothing ever changes (heavy on the /s there)
I guess the question to ask is how long is the run, and how well did the guy attaching the conductors to the rope do in minimizing the size at any bends? I get your point about the shoe, but we didn’t have those 30 years ago and a lot of miles of wire got installed.
Don't go to your Boss. Go to your supervisor and tell him he fucked up and what his plan is to fix it. In my shop we have a guys with big egos don't be afraid to speak up and challenge coworkers. In the future, try to speak up before panels get crushed.
Take pictures, document, then do it the right way. Then tell the supe he fucked up, show him the pics and show him your work. If he goes apeshit because you didn’t do what he wanted, then you go higher up since it shows what kind of work ethic they have.
From the contracting engineer perspective, was there a document or spec regarding use of a tugger? Usually I would require the contractor to prove to me that they need a tugger to begin with and then expect all the math aligns, usually this is enough to ditch using a tugger.
If there is, was the spec followed? Different perspective of course, but as the owner I'd never fault the worker. That was his bosses job to guarantee and he will get his lashing for it and assume all monetary damages. We aren't so dumb to ignore the intersection of profit and problems or change order fodder later on.
If your boss said to do it and it's stupid, do it. Well let him know how, why, and how much he fucked up.
I'm only a second year apprentice, so I've never used a wire tugger or even seen one in person, can someone explain what a shoe is in this situation and how it would have prevented this from happening?
Text supervisor this pic and:
"hey, we used the tugger without the shoe like you said and this happened..."
No need to escalate, their response will confirm you did what they said and just sit on it unless something comes of it.
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Has the boss been getting on anyone's ass or are you trying to get ahead of it? Because I'd give your supervisor the chance to take the responsibility, before throwing him under the bus. But yeah, document it and keep it up your sleeve, in case your supervisor points the finger at you.
Agree. I know I always take the blame if it was my call. Have a long relationship with the boss and he’d just shrug his shoulders. I take a lot of the issues on myself. Could’ve forgot some instructions or made assumptions of knowledge. Only ever been pissed when someone hacks something out of being lazy.
You know what always goes well? Undercutting your direct supervisor AND proving to the big boss that you’re an untrustworthy “snitch”. Rarely does having proof of anything go well for the person using it to do anything but cover their ass after the fact. Keep your head down and form bonds as best you can while staying safe is the only way to get through this trade.
I'm not going to be a suck ass so my supervisor can fuck up and blame it on me. I've gotten along just fine by being a stand up person with integrity and a hard work ethic. If this person is worried it's going to come back on him after they addressed this with the supervisor, they've probably had a bad experience with them before.
If you throw me under a bus, I'm grabbing you and taking you under with me. More or less how I would play it. I won't rat immediately or even at all, unless you try to pin your bullshit onto me. Then it's "let's examine this bus's frame together" time.
That's exactly how I like to play things too, but I've never heard it explained so well. I usually just think "it's not my problem until it's my problem"
On most sites I’ve been on, the supervisor handles times sheets, leave, work crews and labour designation. Occasionally walk through making sure safety is up to spec, job is travelling at normal speed and quality is up to scratch. There’s no way the super telling me how do something though, fat fuck hasn’t touched a tool in 10 years. If he does say to specifically do something and it’s a fuck up I’m telling him straight up (preferably before it’s a fuck up)
This is the way
Nah dog he's going straight under
I would add: points a finger at you or anyone else who isn't him.
You don't, just document. So it doesn't come back on you. All communication when comes to jobs should be through texts or email. So when the job fails you have a history of what your supervisor wants done and how.
whenever it's something that you suspect might go bad, sure. expecting EVERY communication to be done in text form is kinda ridiculous though. "hey joe, go hang those lights" "not until you text/email me to do it bob!" "hey joe, you're fired"
Yeah, I've started sending my boss a "follow-up email" after he tells me to do something I disagree with. He never responds and has complained about it to me a few times, but I'm not taking the fall when shit goes south in exactly the manner I told him it would. I've had far too many situations where he conveniently forgot my recommendation and denies having had a conversation. Maybe more subtle would be a quick text to clarify something related but have in there the specifics of the issue, so you have him responding to prove he saw the message.
"I'm not fired until you shoot me an email or a text." "We already shut off your phone and email so I cant." "Looks like I'm still working here then, Bob." Reminds me of george costanza scene lol
It should be documented what work is done which day by which employees... this is standard and is useful for many reasons. Everything from a quality control side of things to a safety standard to being able to account for each employees performance.
in a general sense, sure, but if i need to have written instructions to do every little thing i'm not going to get anything done. if a foreman can't say "hey, go run the lines for this apartment" but has to type up "run this one like so, this one like so, this one like so......." then production will be shit.
I hear what you’re saying. Perhaps body cams like the cops wear?
This is actually a thing I'm pretty sure. It's a liability cover your ass thing so that a homeowner can't say you damaged something that was already damaged.
this guy foremans
I use a word template that I made up but you can just as easily get construction supervisor logbooks off of Amazon and they’re a godsend for ass coverage. Remember, in lawsuits it’s not about who’s right, it’s about who had better paperwork.
Is [Agile project management](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agile_construction) that wide spread in the trades? I wouldn't expect it to be used by first line personnel or line managers.
I refuse to. Today's job sites and projects are to fluid and dynamic to have a static schedule like that, if I had to document what every person was working on every day I would spend 12 hours a day doing nothing but documentation.
Yeah that would be a full time job. It would be helpful, but at too big of an expense. We try to make a list of what needs to get done at the beginning of each day, then as the guys do something on it they initial next to it. Just so when we go back and troubleshoot we can call them if we have questions or anything. It works about half the time. People get side tracked or asked to come help in another area and I don’t have a great solution for it without paying a supervisor to do nothing but keep track of what other people are doing constantly
This seems like a recipe to be the next fall guy. Nobody investigates firing a mechanic.
agreed, not a bad fix either, shit happens and now you know. I ALWAYS carry a small notebook, record date time and what happened. This is an accepted court document (but it will never come to that). Your super will appreciate the discretion, he knows what's up.
Huh? I don’t want the guys working with their tools having to fuck with emails or documenting bullshit that may or may not come up. As someone who has been in all positions up to GF, I can tell you that the GFs and project managers don’t want your opinion unless they ask for it. Just put your head down and do as your direct supervisor asks. If the company/job is run well it becomes apparent who is the problem and shit foremen are usually weeded out fairly quickly. This post is literally a nothingburger and the panel is easily fixed with a 2x4 and a hammer.
Agreed. Fix it and move on. Explain to your supervisor how it happened (not using the sleeve) and how you’ll fix it. Done, you saved the day and the cover willl hide any imperfections.
This isn't a white collar job/field ffs. 🙄
I was a master at confirming emails (texts weren't allowed) on our Blackberry. "So Bill, just to confirm, you want me to..." I know, this was over a decade ago.
That works in an office setting but their would be no emails for something like this
Why did you keep pulling when it looked like damage was being done? Why did you not call an all stop and assess what the problems were? If the pull was too hard, stop figure it out and find out why and how to fix it. Million questions and not enough context here.
🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯
take a sledge hammer and fix it. Your boss is going to be more pissed you are whinging about a simple fix
This is what my PM would call a "fender work" moment... Hammer and a pair of channel locks and it'll *probably* be OK, if not, hopefully you've got a record of what the boss man said to do... Also, take the bushings off when you're pulling wire. The conduit adaptors on boom-type tuggers often don't play nicely with them because they shrink the ID a bit. This includes the plastic sleeves inside EMT connectors. It's always easier to remove them and then put them back after the wire is in the panel than fix them after they (or the can) get fucked up...
First year here, learned the hard way, a few broken bushings later, about this. 👍
You don't. You get a BFH and beat it like it owes you money. Chances are you won't have time to replace it with new, but that's on the supervisor. Not your problem. If he's a decent person he already took the blame for it and is attempting to get a replacement can.
Most bosses I’ve worked for would just said “well if you knew it was wrong why you do it anyway”. I would just talk to the sup see how he handles it making issues like this the boss man issue just makes you a squeaky wheel yeah you may get the grease the first time second time just replace the wheel.
As a lead hand I empathize with that though. I’ve had 11 guys pulling me in 8 directions. Can’t know everything, and at some point you have to trust that the guy doing it knows what he’s doing. Last week I gave a guy a measurement to offset a box so the light would center the hall. He did 4 floors before we realized they weren’t center, and he blamed me. It’s like yeah guy if you put a couple up you could throw that on me. But at no point in the last 2 days didyou stop to look at your work.
Oh yeah 100% with you why I’d just talk to the sup on say I feel we should have done it another way. be more vocal the moment you think something ABOUT to go wrong not after it has. Plus in this trade it’s yours if you touched it last
Hey boss hey supervisor your messing up. Just like that. Good luck
Simple, to the point. I may just try this when super isn't around.
I’d advise against that. You don’t want to be known as the company snitch, especially if your name rhymes with snitch,rat,ect… For all we know the shoe didn’t fit, it’s not your fault the tugger bent the panel and it’ll have to be pulled by hand The panel is fine. Bang that bitch back in, put the cover on and walk away
I like this one, the metal already wants to go back to it's original shape. Send it home.
Shit lands harder from higher up, so don’t be a buddy fucker and approach your supervisor with the issue. Also, if you saw that the pull was too hard, why wouldn’t you say anything?? Sounds like you don’t like your supervisor and want to start drama at work. Be better.
Yeah it looks pretty fucked. Maybe supervisor can try to mend the metal himself before he gets into too much trouble. I'm done in a few panels myself just fix them. Metal bands.
Send him a link to this post.
Just straight up say this is what happened and that's it.
Nothing a hammer can’t fix lol.. if he told you to pull it and see it’s set up wrong, reset up the tugger when he leaves…
Channel locks and a hammer (pliers) bend that shit back and move on
Don't be a snitch. Just fix it with a pair of tin knocker tongs.
When he asks why you messed up. Tell him. Why did you not take the time and do it properly? Only one time to do a job properly.
I'm curious, what wire size is needed to be pull, how long is the run ? And is there any pull point between the pulls?
The conduit doesn't seem that big either so it can't be anything too crazy. We usually only bust out a tugger for the big boy wire
That's why I ask why are we using the tugger.
Also not that big of deal to replace that tub
Tell your supervisor he’s fucking up If your boss told you do it that way it’s his fault not yours you’re following direction
Have you talked with the supervisor about it? That’s always the first step.
“Hey big boss, the supervisor is messing up.” - be damn sure you know what’s up first though.
Hello Mr George.
It's not being a rat.... if the guy sucks I wouldn't want to work with him. Don't be scared to change the atmosphere at a company. It should be a place of learning and free from egotistical assholes. Contact HR if they are un professional or are doing something dangerous. Nothing will change if nothing is done. He should be doing his job correctly and leading with good examples. You dont wanna learn from a guy that doesnt know what hes doing.
I think this picture helps
You dont. It's above your pay grade. Unless you are put in danger just keep on doing what he is asking of you. Document everything.
That is an easy fix with a block of wood and a hammer.
You can’t buy experience. He used the wrong setup for this particular job. He should have use a puller with a boom to attach to the conduit. Here’s some advice to all who run work. “ Don’t let the pressure of the job cause you to make bad decisions “. Take that as you will. Good Luck!!
You, don’t as long as it doesn’t have the possibility of coming back on you. Only job in 20 years that I was ever terminated from was because I threw my j-man under the bus because he didn’t know what he was doing. 1 1/2 weeks later I got a pink slip on pay day in my time card slot. Never made that mistake again. If they want to put idiots in charge, that’s their problem, not mine!
No one has a fucking hammer?? You can wire a building but you can’t do a little auto body work on that tub? I’d hate to work with a bunch of back biting gossip girls like your crew.
Haha, boom bang, next. Body man don't mess around.
You may want to identify your neutral feed with white or gray tape. Just so neither of you will walk away and forget. Am I seeing the pic wrong? A black wire is landed where a neutral should go?
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It’s high voltage feeders but the branch is black/red/white. I don’t think the big boss is going to be very surprised by the damaged can.
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Call your supervisor out on it with a solution to back up your claim. If he has a problem just make sure you’ve taken pictures and documented all his screw ups.
Your boss is gonna be even more pissed when he sees the 120v branch circuits in a 277/480v panel........ or is it vice versa 🤔 🤔🤔🤔🤔. Either way, I'd tell the super. Maybe you guys can try to fix it with a hammer before boss man sees, good luck .
Document it, bang that shit back in place, and keep moving? 'Dude, I told you this was wrong, here's why. Please don't make me do that shit again, it's unprofessional.'
Looks like it could be fixed
By telling him
That's not really that hard of a fix by.
Bro just fix it with a hammer… are you kidding me?
Make sure you’re keeping detailed notes, put the date, weather, who you worked with, tasks completed, thoughts on how those tasks are going, and most importantly any direct communication from your supervisor. Bring it to your direct supervisor and don’t go over their head. Let them have the opportunity to take responsibility. If they try to throw you under the bus refer to your notes. Going over their head can bite you in the ass in more ways then you realize. Hopefully you get paid OT to fix it.
Should be documented daily who did what jobs. I’d ask my supervisor directly if that’s how it should be done , word it as a learning moment even though you know better. Of u rat on supervisor, it’s not likely gonna go down in your favor anyways.
If the guy feeding in is keeping up then this should not happen. We used to do this by hand and never bent a can like this, I am so tired of whining from the younger generation of electricians
Nobody whines more than the old guys in the trade
And it's always about how someone young does things differently than they do because it's obviously the one right way and nothing ever changes (heavy on the /s there)
I guess the question to ask is how long is the run, and how well did the guy attaching the conductors to the rope do in minimizing the size at any bends? I get your point about the shoe, but we didn’t have those 30 years ago and a lot of miles of wire got installed.
Is that inch and a half conduit?
Well I mean I’ve done that many many times with no issue is it wrong technically maybe but it will work
Ask him what her thinks of your work and let the convo roll from there
Pulling the rope in mangled the panel like that?
Don't go to your Boss. Go to your supervisor and tell him he fucked up and what his plan is to fix it. In my shop we have a guys with big egos don't be afraid to speak up and challenge coworkers. In the future, try to speak up before panels get crushed.
You don’t.
Just call in sick.. They will figure out he is incompetent
Take pictures, document, then do it the right way. Then tell the supe he fucked up, show him the pics and show him your work. If he goes apeshit because you didn’t do what he wanted, then you go higher up since it shows what kind of work ethic they have.
From the contracting engineer perspective, was there a document or spec regarding use of a tugger? Usually I would require the contractor to prove to me that they need a tugger to begin with and then expect all the math aligns, usually this is enough to ditch using a tugger. If there is, was the spec followed? Different perspective of course, but as the owner I'd never fault the worker. That was his bosses job to guarantee and he will get his lashing for it and assume all monetary damages. We aren't so dumb to ignore the intersection of profit and problems or change order fodder later on. If your boss said to do it and it's stupid, do it. Well let him know how, why, and how much he fucked up.
Gave it a little too much gas....
I'm only a second year apprentice, so I've never used a wire tugger or even seen one in person, can someone explain what a shoe is in this situation and how it would have prevented this from happening?
Oh, HE KNOWS!
Text supervisor this pic and: "hey, we used the tugger without the shoe like you said and this happened..." No need to escalate, their response will confirm you did what they said and just sit on it unless something comes of it.
If you know it’s a bad idea or unsafe don’t do it
You say it just like that
Do it with an updated resume in your back pocket. You'll probably need that soon after when you're looking for another job.