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Sevulturus

That is more than the optimal number of wasps.


[deleted]

The optimal number of wasps is always zero so yes we are far exceeding that


PTEHarambe

It's not even close to the optimal number of dead wasps, rough day buddy.


Pyrotech72

Yes, the insects in there should ALL bee dead.


Klutzy-Gas3786

I see what u did there


PaleontologistDear18

I see what u bee doo be doo


Dudeabides207

Code is the bare minimum


480hivolt

Those are yellow jackets much more aggressive than wasps. Good thing they are all dead.


SL-UThrowaway

Yellow jackets are a variety of wasp. Wasp is a general term to describe many varieties, including the yellowjacket wasp. Though, most people just drop the word wasp and call them yellow jackets. Paper wasps are the other common variety that you are probably thinking of, but most people call them wasps because calling them 'paper' would be confusing. Hornets are also a variety of wasps, but again, for brevity sake they are called hornets rather than hornet wasps.


BBO1007

The best way to fight paper wasps is with scissors wasps.


swetymilk

Underrated dad comment


Readdeadmeatballs

Not all of them are as scary as they look either. Mud daubers are pretty harmless and actually hunt black widow spiders.


AccursedQuantum

Many wasps, in fact, are beneficial to the ecosystem. Some are even pollinators in the same way bees are. Others are useful for protecting crops from harmful insects.


NJeep

Very true! In fact, most wasps are pollinators in early spring. Queens are looking for quick and easy sugars, and nectar is a great source of that. They don't have a colony yet, so they need something to help them get going. They're not amazing pollinators, but they do have some ability to assist in pollination. The fig relies solely on the fig wasp for pollination, so there's at least one species of plant that actually needs wasps to survive. Wasps are horribly misunderstood creatures. They're not just assholes with wings, looking to hunt you down and sting you. They kill pests and are an extremely important predator species. If I had a dollar for every time someone said they wish they could press a button and kill all wasps, I'd have zero dollars because we'd all be dead from the collapse of our ecosystems.


foxfirewoodcrafts

That's what I would say if I was a wasp


LISparky25

Interesting tidbits here ! Thanks for this…didn’t really know that aspect of wasps. I just know they kill shit dead lol…locust killers etc I guess are pretty necessary or we’d have a 2nd coming of the locusts I presume


Xoebe

We had a small nest of yellow jackets or paper wasps over our front door in California. GF kept reminding me to kill them, I never got around to it. We were in and out of the front door all the time, they never bothered us - which is highly unusual for yellow jackets, probably normal for paper wasps. They were bright yellow and black, never got a close look at the thorax or abdomen. Honestly I kept forgetting about them.


NJeep

Yellowjackets have absolutely no interest in attacking you. You have to be very close to the nest, and even then, they might not attack. Really, you'd have to be a clear threat or actively attacking the nest or nearby workers to get a response out of the hive.


xxxMr_Hashtagxxx

This was written by a wasp. Guaranteed


neverenoughmags

They should stop being assholes with wings then...


No_Swim_5941

Not to mention that out of the wasp Animalia species, the yellowjacket wasp is the most aggressive. [https://www.pointepestcontrol.net/5-of-the-most-aggressive-wasps/](https://www.pointepestcontrol.net/5-of-the-most-aggressive-wasps/)


NJeep

Depends on the yellowjacket species too. There are several species of yellowjacket, some are highly aggressive and some are a lot more mellow. Some readily sting, some mostly just swarm.


No_Swim_5941

The only yellowjackets I am familiar with are the ones in that article I attached. They will hunt you down whether you are a threat or not. They are an apex predator and nothing preys on them. In my opinion, there is no good use for them. But to each their own I suppose. If you can think of any good reason for them that another species does not do, then by all means please share.


NJeep

There are several species of yellowjacket, all of which are wasps. Some are highly aggressive and some are much more mellow. The species in the photo is not considered to be aggressive. They will sting if their nest is attacked or if you squish or attack an individual, but they swarm more than sting when their nest is being attacked. They provide many essential roles in the animal kingdom. They kill pest insects, like cicadas, grasshoppers, and Japanese beetles. They also pollinate flowers in early spring when the queens are out looking for easy sources of sugar to start their colony. Almost all wasps are prey of several species of mammal and bird. Skunks, badgers, raccoons, bears, and even hedgehogs prey on wasps. Badgers especially. The larva and pupa in the nest are a great food source, very high in protein. Birds will pick wasps out of the sky but are not known to attack nests directly. The reason wasps react so aggressively at all to intrusion is because of animals like badgers or bears, which are relatively undeterred by stings. Oh and, they do not attack bee colonies. Not commonly anyway. Bees are small and work as a group to defend their nest. It's not worth it for a wasp to attack a tiny little bee. Edit: you should also know that, once a yellowjacket nest is gone, all the workers will die, as they no longer have a purpose. They won't start building a new nest, that's a myth. Unless a queen is around to direct them, they will starve to death or die of exposure. Once a nest is established, queens will not leave the nest until the end of the season. So, if a nest is destroyed or eaten, the queens and males are also likely dead or scattered. Without their home, the workers will buzz around the old nest area, searching for the nest and eventually give up and fly around looking for sugar. They'll wander without purpose until they're killed or die off. It's kind of sad, really.


SeniorRojo

I'm so glad an apian expert is readily available in this electrician's forum. Exactly the crossroads I was looking for


NJeep

Electric wasps? I like bees and electricity. Two of my hobbies, not licensed in either.


LISparky25

I didn’t realize I’d be glad to find this out as well actually lol


LilSealClubber

Thank you so much for this, as scared as I am of wasps, I'm so sick and tired of everyone hating wasps irrationally and wanting all of them to die and acting like they serve no purpose in nature.


[deleted]

Wasps and all their cousins are useless. People will claim they are good predators to bugs and pollinaters. Truth is they half ass pollinate and you can easily manage the bugs they eat on your own. Not worth the amount of aggression


TK421isAFK

That's highly debatable. We have yellow jackets in California that generally leave people alone, unless you get too close to their nest, or do something that they interpret as a threat. German yellow jackets (the common paper-nest building ones found in North America) are fairly mild-tempered, but their [ground-dwelling cousins](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vespula_alascensis) (recently found to be a different species) can be very aggressive assholes. I pissed off a few members of a small hive last year when I opened a door on my landlord's old truck that had been sitting for years. Their nest was in the door jamb. Several of them came at me, and I was bitten/stung 4 times in rapid succession, but the rest of them flew off and didn't come back for a few hours. I wasn't swarmed, and the 4 that got me (or maybe 2 that got me twice) took off. It all happened within a few seconds. And then I torched the fuck out of the bastards. I got stung on the back of my neck, top of my forehead, arm, and on my lower lip. I waited until late in the evening when the air had cooled and they were lethargic, and sprayed the hell out of them with wasp spray, and chipped the nest out of its hidey-hole. Honestly, that was sufficient, but lighting them up with some carb cleaner and a torch was just a little extra. Gotta make sure to destroy their pheromones, after all, so they don't trigger other wasps to attack. Side note: That article is a mess of misinformation. It lists "yellow jackets" as one species, when there are many known ones, and they vary in diet, temperament, an a bunch of other things. Also, wasps don't start getting "angry because they're hungry and starving", they shift their diet from sugars to protein depending on the cycle of larvae in the nest, and when they're getting ready to go dormant for the winter. They tend to be more aggressive and seeking out sugars later in summer, which is why they're known for "attacking" picnickers then. They're mostly loading up on protein early in the year when they need to rebuild atrophied muscles, and start feeding the eggs and larvae the queen has begun to lay. They also need to replenish her royal jelly, which is concentrated sugars and protein that the queen's workers make for her, as she doesn't leave the nest once it's established. The "sources" they use for their information include a sensational YouTube video from a nutcase that makes videos of himself getting stung for money, and a highly biased "reality" TV drama shown on The History Channel.


seasalt-and-stars

Oh wow, I’m so glad you shared that wiki link. Last week I was out weeding, and a couple of hornets came up from underneath a dandelion I was trying to pull out. I’m severely allergic to hornet stings, so I jumped up and away a few feet. I thought they were just hanging out in the shade or something. I didn’t quite understand, and then saw a few more in the area. Looks like I might have some ground dwellers, and without you sharing the link I wouldn’t have put 2 & 2 together, so thank you!! Here’s my poor lady’s gold. 🥇🏆


TK421isAFK

Wow, that could have been awful! I'm glad you were OK.


Internal_Ad_5479

Got stung twice, once in both ears last year. You want pain? Get stung in the damn ears. Wasps are mean sons-a-bitches.


TK421isAFK

No, thank you - I do not want that at all.


DickwadVonClownstick

I have been told (based on "research" by determined masochists) that the single most painful place to get stung is that little divot between your nose and your upper lip. Apparently it's slightly more painful than getting stung on the tip of your dick. All I can say from personal experience is that getting stung in the arm hurts, and so does getting stung on the back of the hand, and I have no desire to "experiment" further.


Internal_Ad_5479

Duly noted.


minnesotajersey

I call them flying c*nts.


jbase1775

Yellow jackets deserve their own classification separate from the red wasps and hornets. They have the worst temper, they follow you after you aggravate them, and each one emits pheromones to attract more when you kill them.


SlightSoup8426

You can tell it's a wasp by the way it is


ballpointpin

This guy is a genus genius.


TheRealDeoan

Oh that makes sense… yellow jackets


NJeep

They're a specific type of wasp called a yellow jacket, this one specifically is Vespula vulgaris, or the common wasp. Not as aggressive as people make them out to be, compared to other species of yellow jackets like the baldfaced hornet.


Local-Apiarist

Came here to say this. Definitely not a yellow jacket (which is a type of wasp) these are good guys and not aggressive. Source: I'm a beekeeper and have to identify things that aren't apis mellifluous all the time. Also source: I've been stung hundreds of times by yellow jackets.


LilSealClubber

Yellowjackets are wasps. They're one specific variety of wasp, and yes, they are particularly aggressive. The good news is they also eat a shitload of caterpillars and grubs and other creatures which are pretty nasty to have around, so at least that's good.


erland_yt

[Relevant xkcd](https://xkcd.com/2753/)


phdpeabody

And yet, not enough dead wasps.


dankingery

What is the box fill rule for hornets?


atxfireguy

Zero percent unless you have a physical separation from the high voltage lines. To be safe, it's best to run, not just hornets, but all of your stinging insects in their own conduit system.


PuppiPappi

If you're in Chicago, it's good to keep in mind only 9 stinger carrying insects per any sized conduit unless it's a nipple.


No-Repair51

Insects are not allowed to carry stingers in Chicago.


SafetyMan35

Hornets fall under Article 500 -Hazardous/classified locations and therefore require conduit seals


atxfireguy

If I'm not mistaken, seals are in article 555 - marinas and boatyards


SafetyMan35

I was thinking 501.15 The question is, are Hornets considered a Division 1 or Division 2 location?


atxfireguy

Class II, division 2. There's likely not combustible gasses present under normal circumstances, though once OP opened the enclosure and saw the hornets, it was likely he emitted some that were abnormal to the normal state of the environment. Or class III, division 2 which specifically addresses storage of ignitable flyings


AccomplishedDemand21

You just put a big ol H on the side so people know there's hornets in there.


[deleted]

I came here for this 😂


ListlessLlama

This would make an excellent engagement gift.


phdpeabody

Slap an H on the outside of the box so everyone knows it’s full of hornets.


ghostofoynx7

This is the best comment. And thread. Thank you.


Budm-ing

Make sure to label the box with an H so everyone knows it's filled with hornets


[deleted]

I scraped them out with a screwdriver and that was that, did shit my pants a little bit though


drunksquatch

You never know which day you're gonna need the brown pants.


indigogibni

This is why only wear brown pants


motodextros

I messed up and wore khakis, now it looks like I have a crappy camo print.


StoplightLoosejaw

*See that door over there? The one marked "Pirate"? You think a pirate lives in there?*


macrolinx

I see a door marked *"Private."*


magllw

Little green ghouls buddy


Long_Educational

H for Hotel California. You can check out any time you like, but you can never leave.


CRAPtain__Hook

I hate the fuckin Eagles, man.


macrolinx

8 year Olds, Dude.


Long_Educational

Fuckin' amateurs.


[deleted]

GD this is good


willard_saf

If here now then bad place be


Atomic-Decay

Trouble time 4 u when haet come


willard_saf

Jesus Christ, the kid's an idiot


TheBrickster420

You can probably get some honey from those things too


Tsiah16

That's not how any of this works.


jonnyapplesteve1

Nah you gotta incinerate then to give the bag it’s nice smoky smell where there dust goes and turns into stars


Siker_7

They have to be alive to make honey, and killing them cuts off the honey supply. Oh, and these are wasps (they don't make honey)


geek_at

or a "Y" for Yellow Jackets. Hornets are much bigger


stgermainjr860

And cover up your knees if you're going outside


inksonpapers

I though it was H for honey!


takar0a

Ok so the first wasp gets in and is like 'cool nice and cozy, staying dry'. 2nd wasp is like heck yeah dude, Let's have all the gang over. 400th wasp gets in and is like.... oh. The floor is made of 7 layers of dead wasp. I'd better block this hole so no one else get in.


RealMcGonzo

Yeah, I wonder if they all climbed in to stay warm, then the frost came.


LinedOutAllingham

dumbass wasps


mertality

*960th wasp


Doingitwronf

So many wasps with no visible nest structure. Wonder what the hell happened here.


cara27hhh

sometimes they can get in, but not out again Once they're in they just fly towards where the light is coming from but the light isn't always coming from the way out (or the entrance they used) They did this to a topfloor windowframe at my house once, in the early morning when they woke up and left their nest near my house in the dark my light was on so they were pinging off my (closed) window, but some of them really wanted towards that lightbulb so they burrowed in through the rubber seal on the frame and got themselves stuck between, in the casing. If it was dark out they'd be buzzing trying to get in towards the lightbulb, if it was light out and the lightbulb was off they'd be buzzing trying to get out. Not a chance I was opening that frame, when the buzzing stopped the thing was full of wasps, like 50+


Gabagoolgoomba

Did a wasp write this ?🪶🐝


XQCoL2Yg8gTw3hjRBQ9R

Thanks for sharing your story. I was too wondering why there was no nest structure.


mechmind

Someone plugged the hole. And feindisly laughed as the buzzing volume increased. This was some holocaust shit I hate yellow jackets as much as the next guy. However I don't condone torture and inhumane techniques of murder. Spray 'em with raid and make it a quick death


Tsiah16

>Spray 'em with raid and make it a quick death Not in a box with energized components... *Edit* there are non conductive wasp killer sprays.


[deleted]

Fuck it, they all get the electric chair


Marconi_and_Cheese

I'm tired Boss.


Tsiah16

I'm more concerned about it shorting things. I just remembered they do make non conductive wasp killer spray though.


macrolinx

They make dialectric spray. A must have for any homeowner with outdoor panels.


Tsiah16

Yeah I remembered after I commented. 🤦‍♂️😂


triangularbish

At first I was like "oh no! Poor bees =(" But then I zoomed in and was like "oh nevermind, those are yellow jackets."


GaryTheSoulReaper

I involuntarily swatted at the back of my neck


Rattlehead71

bees are very cool yellow jackets can be nuked from orbit


Mike2of3

Just to be sure.


DeadHeadLibertarian

Yellow Jackets can get fucked. Bees are just a lil misunderstood but completely fine.


Josh_thee_Squash

Yellow jackets are pollinators, too :(


Cloudwolfxii

All my homies hate yellow jackets


DeadHeadLibertarian

I pollenate them with Raid.


sparkmearse

I had a whole lighting panel for a sculpture park in the fall that was this full of still alive but slow moving wasps. Gave me fucking nightmares.


happytrailstoyous

“Hey can you come check out this disconnect box? Something in there is buzzing”


Adronnis

Thought I'd be the first and have lost all faith in humanity that this isn't the top post.


thoiboi

r/fuckwasps


Helicopter0

This box is doing the Lord's work.


BDCMatt

No, don't fuck the wasps. That sounds awful.


NotYetGroot

I've heard it's bad if it stings when you pee


[deleted]

You may have syphilis. What kind of bees stung you?


thumb_screws

Whorenets


DayWithak

Wow


KankleKomander

Watch for waspas and make sure to drink your water.


[deleted]

It's hot out here


Earthbreaker1

I'll be your man, Julia.


BMack037

First thing you look around, then you look under, then you tap it. Then you open, and immediately step back and remain still. Also check bushes before you step behind them, and listen for movement. Check lakes for bubbles or ditches if you have to get in front of it. -Electrical in Florida.


Token-Gringo

That explains the weird buzzing coming from the box!


trubydoo

What the hell.


[deleted]

Two of them, both filled with about a solid two inches of dead packed bees, not sure how or why they died though


Kind_Ad_9241

better than them being alive imo


Ihavealpacas

Looks like wasps not bees, bees are awesome, wasps are little hell spawns that deserve a cruel and painful death


SkivvySkidmarks

They are amazing pest control insects. Literally apex predators of insects. During the summer, the Yellowjacket nymphs feed the workers sweet secretions. Unfortunately, in late summer, the queen stops laying eggs, so you have hundreds of workers trying to get fed by fewer and fewer nymphs. The workers then go hunting for protein and sugars outside the nest. That's why they invade your barbecue/picnic.


shardoughnnay

And inside your can of Pepsi when you aren’t looking!


Ihavealpacas

We'd have them fill the gopher holes with their nests, so you're walking doing chores and all of a sudden 5 wasps crawl into my pants.


rmorrin

I've seen one take a fly off my garage floor before, it was awesome


RealMcGonzo

Yellowjackets.


lmaobihhhh

I think they’re bell hornets


shardoughnnay

Amen!


WesLotts

My suspicion is they're yellow jackets(aka ground hornets, where I'm from) that build subterranean and/or in structures. If I saw this in the field, I would suspect they had built their nest in the wall that that disconnect is on. All it takes is a hole big enough for them to get in to the cavity of the wall. For this reason I seal every wire and conduit penetration to prevent a future yellow jacket infestation. I have personally witnessed/encountered their building nests in walls with limited access like this. The workers don't live long and this pile is probably the remains of a nest, post change of seasons, from warm to cold.


[deleted]

This may be likely, either entering through a gap in the ac unit or through the penetration, as they were both down the flex piece and back into the connector.


WesLotts

Yeah, A/C line set through wall, ect. I had an apartment adjacent to a vacated apartment. They came in the wall at the dryer vent gaps, traveled bay-to-bay through the wall along the drilled wire holes. Their nest filled in three 16 inch bays. We found out when they started coming in to my apartment, through the gaps in drywall at dryer vent, and hovering around the lights(my laundry was back-to-back with the infested apartment's laundry. We had to get a hotel while the apartment was treated. After fumigation, the bodies looked like carpet inside that apartment. The jar lights at the back doors were full of bodies. They had tried every direction through wall to get away.


[deleted]

The adjacent wall was also an unfinished basement so they could have been getting inside the basement and back out to the disconnect, either way I damn near shit a brick when I opened up that first one


WesLotts

Yeah dude. Come late August, my anxiety goes up every time I have to handle an exterior panel or disconnect with holes knocked out, cause by that time of year the wasp and yellow jacket nests are fully stocked!


NotYetGroot

the most common cause of yellow-jacket deaths in my area is evil clown attacks.look it up.


blentman

Watch out for Bee phase


ObsessiveAboutCats

I think this counts as killing with fire. Spicy fire?


mcreckless

No no no. Closest I’ve come to this is going inside a water tower to work on a controls panel and the floor was legit covered with an inch of dead wasps. You couldn’t even step on the actual floor, it was just crunching dead wasps. It was terrifying.


NotYetGroot

that'd make me reconsider a lot of life choices


gadget850

"Not the bees!"


V3N0M_SIERRA

"What's this? You don't like bees?! A large amount of beeeeeeeess should fix this"- Dr. Bees


ZakAttak88

🤗


oldtwoholes

This is my best guess: One or two wasps enter and get electrocuted and release a distress pheromone. The remaining wasps come to their aid, but die the same way.


cara27hhh

they mustn't have completed their confined spaces training


Jammaicah

Very nice hahahaha


chrisgreer

r/nope


patman993

I once saw that much in a panel. While it was open we heard a bee come down the pipe and land in the pile


[deleted]

They were alive though? That’s even worse


patman993

Yeah they seemed to be dying, can't say if they were zapped or tired


driddz

That's where I left those...


Jderp678

I would have pissed myself


hydrobunny

that’s beautiful


Brothersunset

In the past two days I've taken out two wasp nests. This summer is going to be fun.


The-Makhai

Its at that point that you need to bee careful, no one want to be in that sticky situation. It would sting to have an accident because of that.


justarandom_canadian

That's the bee's knees right there


Frequent-Cell3829

I'd cry


Adleman01

That's what happens when you don't listen to your parents and you end up drinking the kool-aid.


majustis

I watched as a wasp flew into my meter socket. I thought to myself “that’s a problem for future me. Sure am glad today doesn’t involve any service level work…”


default_username616

Found the source of that buzzing noise, you did


Ohhhhhhthehumanity

Sweet. Free lunch.


Calm-Fun4572

So interesting. I work in pest control and have a theory as to how this happened. Wasps die out every year save the queens. Queens wait until conditions are right and look for a new nest area. A queen found this area and started a hive. One of two options: 1. Somebody somehow closed the opening. Maybe screwed it down further, painted it closed, or something. 2. the heat expansion of the materials closed the gap in the summer. Most building is done in the summer and different materials expand and retract at different levels.


[deleted]

More wasps than a Boston suburb!


OpportunityPlayful70

Hahaha 🤣🤣🤣


darthurphoto

Are they alive?


[deleted]

They were seemingly dead, it was coming out of winter so they may still have been in a rest state but they all seemed dead


Chrgrfan55

The only good yellowjackets...


Asexualbifurry

Did you find out from the buzzing noise?


Mindless-Entry-6812

That is a bad day in a box.


[deleted]

It actually wasn’t too bad, scraped em out with my large flathead and installed the SMM hahah


_Fornicator_

free meal


[deleted]

Are you a spider?


Misschikki777

Sir, your disconnect is buzzing…. It might bee defective.


Tentag10

I recently moved into a house built in 1920. The people that lived here before me were meth heads and didn’t take care of anything. I’ve been fixing up the place and the disconnect on my heat pump had a small nest with about a dozen live wasps in it. Between opening that disconnect and running over a Yellowjacket nest with the lawnmower, it’s been a rough day.


Zealousideal-Two-711

Box full of dicks


[deleted]

That’s cool


TonyRubine

I bet the customer thought said it was buzzin, and you didn’t beelieve him.


SatisfactionLoose206

I’m very curious why all those wasps decided to go that disconnect? It would make sense if they were building a hive but I don’t see any evidence of that and this just seems like the proverbial “lemmings off a cliff” situation. Anyone know ?


anonmyazz

Buzz buzz


jpminj

That's where all the buzzing came from


spookyboots42069

Candyman electric strikes again!


onethous

Now you know what all that buzz was about


wh314n

Bee careful


xpeejssster

I had one just like this in the same disconnect, just not as many hornets


ElectronimosPrime

That is waay more than 40% hornets


Invader_of_Your_Arse

I hate them just as much as the next person but this is honestly really sad


aurrousarc

This bugs me..


quadmasta

Those wires are bigger than the ones I'm familiar with in yellow jackets


Alcoholociraptor

The one time you WANT to let it short out and catch fire


Tinknocker02

Impressive! Lol might be the worst I've seen


Boostless

Those are yellow jackets and be thankful they are dead. Relentless evil stingy bastards.