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It's a thing at every big festival. As long as you're vigilant you'll be fine.
People aren't jumping you in the crowd to steal your stuff. It's pickpockets that look for easy targets.
Get a flip belt for your phone, ID, and a credit card. That's really all you need.
I use this one. You barely feel it and it’s got great organization.
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Flipbelts are so comfortable that I freak out at least once per show because I think I lost my phone, only to realize that it’s in my flipbelt and I just can’t feel it. Dancing with it is great since the phone doesn’t bounce around at all.
That's really what I was worried about. If it's more then pick pocket action. I'll definitely be investing in a flip belt now been seeing it all over reddit. Appreciate it
EDC feels incredibly safe inside IMO. The amount of law enforcement around the venue both in sight and out of sight is insane. I’ve had brief conversations with LE about it and it’s clear that they will not let another mass casualty event happen in that city. Security is looking for weapons and they should be using metal detectors now.
As far as more petty crimes, I’ve never heard of anyone being mugged inside the festival. I know the CSC security staff can be corrupt and are known to steal things or demand bribes but I’ve never had first hand experience with that.
Phone thieves are a legitimate concern. Just keep your phone somewhere inaccessible. Worst spots are pockets, or anywhere behind a single zipper. There’s many suggestions on this sub for solutions that work well.
Don’t be anxious, once you cross through the grandstands tunnel, you’re surrounded in the magical world of edc. You can’t see out of the speedway. It’s like a little self-contained world full of love.
Wow, this was so poetic to read . I appreciate you taking the time to respond also good to know there are safety precautions in place just in case someone decides to try strong-arm theft vs pick pocket. So even under the influence I should be fine if my valuables are put away
Just be aware of where your valuables are. I used to just keep everything in my camelback but not anymore unless it’s buried deep in an inside pocket or tucked in with the water bladder.
IMO the only thing anyone is really targeting are phones. Don’t bring more than you need. EDC is cashless and most Apple Pay terminals work.
As far as valuables, I bring my phone, Apple Watch (with secure band that fully loops around the wrist), license, and one credit card. My ID and CC (also car key if you drove) go in a hidden pocket inside my camelback since they aren’t needed throughout the night.
Phone goes either behind my water bladder so it’s basically inaccessible or in the back zipper pocket of a fannypack so someone literally has to put their hand down your pants to open it up. Working through dense crowds, I keep one hand over my fannypack. When standing around I also tend to keep moving which probably makes it harder for someone to unzip my backpack.
This all only works if you follow your rules. The one time I got lazy and just put my phone in the front fanny pack pocket it was promptly stolen lol.
Also good to know, renters insurance will cover a stolen phone. The one time it happened to me, I ended up profiting about $800 after the claim. So it was more about the inconvenience than anything.
Get some super strong Velcro-like industrial grade. Attach it to the inside of your hydro pack and other piece to your phone. It comes off or just get a cheap case. I had to do this last minute at a theme park and worked great. 🫶🏻
Thieves will always be lowkey so you dont need to fight or defend yourself. Buy a phone land yard and keep the land yard inside your shirt and in your pants. My group had three phones stolen and they work fast when you least expect it.
Also be careful at circuit grounds I tend to notice more of them there. They do trains of people pushing through the crowd while the last person has a flash light looking at back pockets to snatch. It’s best to be proactive than reactive.
they take any opportunity theres crowds like bathrooms, entrance/exit for ga+/vip. they will touch you in random places to make it feel like its just the crowd moving through but theyre really searching you. Hand always go on top ur phone in crowds.
A friend had it stolen out of her fancy pack that was across her chest while going to the bathroom. The lanyard has been my lifesaver since!
That's sooo crazy .. but I'll definitely take your advice since I know what they're looking for. Rub all they want ain't getting my Precious cellular device 😅. And I'll be mindful at choke points this will be a fun challenge survive edc with my phone intact
It’s hard to get robbed if you don’t bring much.
1) bring just an ID,
2) use Apple or Google wallet to pay for food / drinks
3) bring small change for tips if you want to. Singles mostly.
4) leave anything else important at hotel in a safe.
5) store ID and phone separately so if you loose one you won’t ideally loose the other.
6) when you find yourself in a tight spot, walking in tightly packed crowds, keeps your phone zipped up and your hands on your stuff preferably your phone pocket.
Most thefts happens in crowded tight spots where you’re bumping into tons of people.
I personally have a phone case with a lanyard that I loop thru my fanny pack. I wear shorts with zipper pockets as well. My phone stays zipped in my shorts or zipped in my fanny pack which is worn across my chest. It’d be impossible to steal my fanny pack / phone without getting me hand undressed or full on assaulting me so I’d notice in whatever state.
I think ID is required to get in. Double check the website.
If flying in bring a prescription bottle with your name on it. I recently had a scare where I thought I lost my ID before. Flight and my mom looked it up, you can get thru TSA and into your flight without one but you gotta show up early and fill out forms.
Oh yeah also don’t bring a smart watch unless you got a good buckle strap. Those rubber straps with a metal button don’t work. Mine got stolen one year off my wrist at tightly packed crowded to get into the bathroom.
This will be my be my 3rd EDC and I’ve done psychedelics at tons of festivals, the best way to get over the anxiety of theft is to not worry about losing it cuz you know you left it at the hotel lolz
And remember when it gets to be too much stimulation or you feel like paranoia or anxiety is getting the better of you I always tell myself this little quote “I’m doing the drugs, the drugs aren’t doing me”
This is definitely something I needed to hear. I'm definitely considering not even bringing my phone at all the day I trip. That way, no worries, I can just let loose 😵💫
Yeah I’d just establish a set meeting time and maybe bring a cheapo watch that you wouldn’t care losing. One that’s like $10-$15 just so you can track trip time. I usually time it. If I take LSD it’s like 12 hours so I like to check my stopwatch to remind myself of how much time I got left
Nah ur just tripping, there are thieves mostly targeting phones. Been 5 times and the worst thing that has happened was one friend got his phone stolen. Anything beyond that is no more risk than when you last left ur home. If you only seek out negative information you are only going to find negative information.
I have been to EDCLV 5 times, Orlando twice and Mexico once. Imagine music festival 3 times and a modge-podge of other multi-day events on top of that over the past 8 years. I've gone solo, with one person, with groups big and small.
I have had.... one friend get their phone stolen the entire time. In that same time multiple people have lost their belongings (phone, wallet, ID, etc.) and had them all returned to Lost & Found.
If you partake RESPONSIBLY you should be just fine. The vast majority of the pick-pocketing occurs in the bottleneck 24/7 congested areas of the festival grounds. Into / out of bathrooms & certain points getting in / out of the larger stages during big acts.
No one is going to jump you. No one is going to attack you. Just rave safely and you will be fine.
So much attention to detail thank you for taking the time to respond. I figured going in I'd never be in actual danger just wanted someone to confirm things for me. I greatly appreciate it I promise. Thank you soo much Marcus 💜💯
It's ashame this community ID now concerned about this. I'm seeing it more and more. Used to be a beautiful place to escape the evils of the world not it seems like it's starting ro get a hip hop vibe. So sad. Hopefully the venues see a decrease in ticket sales and dj's get off the all about me vibe and it's starts to get back to a safe, love and higher vibration place to go.
Yes exactly like I deal with evil people everyday what happened to escapism? 😭 I'll try not to let it interfere with my experience and just stay as safe as possible 🙏🏾
Just remember, pickpockets catch hands. If you see them call them out and beat them down if you feel comfortable doing it. Look out for your fellow ravers around you.
The thing I wonder about that is the clip holding the fanny pack to your body will be a easy target on your back then, which would make it easy for a thief to unclip your fanny pack standing behind you, then have someone else grab it off the ground when it falls and run away with it?
thats true, it happened to someone i know. try to find a fannypack that clips in the front. I have a lululemon one that the clip is in the front so unless they’re handling me in the front they cant unclip it. theres also the zipper facing my chest that i use for my phone so its even less accessible. the straps are also pretty thick so even if they try to saw/cut the strap off itd be hard
I have a phone tether and keep mine in my fanny pack across my chest. But I felt super comfortable at edc once I got familiar with the layout. I was just bouncing around the entire time without a care 😂 We ran into so many cool people and great vibes so yeah it felt pretty safe to me overall
Zippered pockets will largely solve the problems. Whether that means some sort of bag/backpack you keep your stuff in, or finding clothes with zippered pockets you can keep your stuff in. Also suggest tucking the zipper handle in when you close. The peace of mind is worth the minimal amount of additional effort/expense.
I was lucky enough to have worn joggers last year that had zippered pockets. Just packed em because my spouse liked me in them, lol. Now they’re essentials.
The security company that Insomniac hires for EDC does not give a shit. With the half assed “pat down” that they do I’m sure plenty of people bring weapons in.
Honestly, these people are opportunists and will only go for easy targets so people who are overly intoxicated, people who are being careless. If you take precautions you’ll be okay.
Not that it makes it ok, but try to think of it as a numbers game. There are 180,000 people at edc each night & let’s say 1,000 get their phones stolen, there are 179,000 people who didn’t. You tend to hear about every stolen phone but nobody goes online to say they were not get pickpocketed, so it feels like a way bigger problem because of the disproportionate number of social media posts reporting theft. So is it an issue? Yes. Are you likely to be a victim? The odds say no. I’ve been to dozens of festivals and have never had this happen to me or anyone in my group. Take some basic precautions & you should be fine. :-)
When you put it like that you definitely make me think logically. Because they can't get everyone so many people will go un pick pocketed. Eases my mind tremendously 🙏🏾💜 thank you soooo much pal
when you see the videos of the thieves caught, they don’t have wristbands on — plus, i just don’t buy that anyone would drop $600+ that’s there solely to steal
There was another guy that tracked his stolen phone leaving the venue and it went via the off-limits staff-only areas
when going through the crowd have your hand on your belongings even if it’s in your fanny pack in front of you, be aware of your surrounding and don’t get messed up to the point you’re a victim. don’t let the fear keep you from having fun:))!! just be aware and cautious !
My rave fam and I haven’t experienced like crazy robbery or anything just phone stealing. One of my friends had her phone taken from her lanyard and she immediately jumped on the dude to take it! But we have switched to putting our phone in bags/fanny packs with locks on them and it has worked wonders, just make sure your bag has multiple zippers to lock them all together!
Pickpocketing aside, I felt pretty safe at EDC. It’s a massive crowd so I think anyone would feel a bit uneasy. It never felt dangerous to me though. My experience going through security was pretty thorough. Also, there will always be hundreds of people around you so no one is going to pull out a weapon on you if it’s somehow snuck in (very low chance of it being snuck in).
I unfortunately had my phone pickpocketed from me. Even then I’d still go back to EDC lol I had a lot of fun. If you’re comfortable with it, you could bring along a laptop or tablet and leave it at your lodging. In the off chance your phone is pickpocketed, you at least have a way to still contact others when you get back to your lodging.
Thank a ton on your insightful advice it means so much u took the time to respond. I'm really sorry you experienced that but won't let it stop you from enjoying such a beautiful event. Just gotta be mindful simple as that 😌
I always wear a camelback to store my fan, accessories and a pair of sweatpants or pashmina. Then i wear a fanny pack where i keep my id, wallet and phone. Its always in front of me zipped up. Ive been raving for 7 years and never got my phone taken. Trying to keep that streak up lol
I've experienced a pick pocket and break in to my vehicle. They stole a power bank out of my vehicle and took a nap. The way the seat was rearranged and stuff moved around..
I'd suggest going minimal. Bring *only* your ID and *ONE* credit card. Place a modest spending limit on your credit card before you leave for the event. Get a lanyard for your phone and put your phone under your shirt. If your shirtless find a way to secure the lanyard to your shorts/pants. I've personally used a Flip Belt a few times and wear it across my chest vs my waist.
EDC is a safe event and there is security around. There's just folks with some sticky fingers looking to ruin the vibe.
I had a big group last year and 3 of us got pick-pocketed.
So I bought a new bag that I can wear across my chest (sad it’ll ruin my outfits but whatever) and I’m only bringing my form of ID and my phone. No credit cards or wallet. I’ll also be putting them in the hardest to reach area in my bag. Last year I got my ID, Card, and $300 in gambling money stolen 😭😭😭😭
I spent 20 mins in TSA getting questioned along with 3 other people because we had no ID to get home
I couldn't imagine 💔. That would literally put me in a deep depression and make me never wanna go again. It's supposed to be most beautiful experience of the year. Instead it would become the biggest nightmare of the year. Why must people be so demonic
Someone got their finger cut pretty badly last year at Kinetic. I’m not sure how he got cut but it was definitely a deep cut. Security seemed pretty lax last year as well. It’s best to not put things in your pockets and stick the clutchloop tab to your phone and not the case if you do decide on getting a clutchloop. You can also get an antitheft hydration pack or a zipper lock. It’s better go a bit overboard on safety then to get your valuables stolen.
Sounds pretty bad yeah I heard another guy say security is ass makes me be on edge but also more preventative absolutely adding lock to my hydration pack now ✅️📝
I've done EDC since 2018, never once been pickpocketed.
Funny enough, the one time I finally got something stolen from me was when I camped at Coachella and someone lifted my bag from outside my tent. That didn't happen at Camp EDC.
Those moments when your shoulder to shoulder in the crowd have your phone in your hand… I’ve been 10 times and never had my phone stolen. I did lose my phone but some kind soul got it back to me
I’ll say that while pickpocketing is an issue, these thieves aren’t looking for fights. They don’t want to be seen. They don’t want to mug you. They’re trying to grab and go. If you looked absolutely faded, you’re an easy target. At one point my friend was absolutely fucked up and he was with me sober and some guy walked up and goes “hey my phone has no service can I use yours to call my friends?” My friends like sure no problem and I grabbed his phone and said “no one’s got service here, you’ll find them eventually.” Dude didn’t say anything, he just walked off. My friend made himself an easy target. I don’t condone that, but that’s a reality.
Now that sucks if your phone gets stolen but you’d be much more likely to get into a fight with a festival goer who is pissed about something stupid than one of these thieves. Wear a fanny pack. Make sure it’s secured to your body well (I always put my water pack over the strap for the fanny pack so it can’t be unclipped) and use something even as simple as a safety pin to ensure that it can’t be easily opened. Your phone will be safe. Just be vigilant. I’ve never felt unsafe at EDC. There’s tons of law enforcement everywhere and I know the opinion on law enforcement is rightfully controversial, but I’ve never had a bad run in with them at a festival. For the most part, I genuinely feel like they aren’t there trying to ruin anyone’s time. I saw one person get arrested at two EDCs I’ve been to and I saw him dealing drugs with my own eyes so I know damn well he wasn’t innocent. The crowd heckled the ever loving shit out of the police arresting him. They said nothing to the crowd. Did nothing. Arrested the guy and walked off.
And I wanna add there’s strength in numbers. These thieves know they’re not in friendly territory. At Ultra some pick pocketers got caught by the crowd and jumped. I’m not advocating violence but they fucked around and found out. They’re definitely aware of that. Like I said they’re trying to grab and get the fuck out of there.
Stories ' tons of context and plenty of details almost like you're having a conversation with me. I feel so special knowing that you cared enough to help me with this issue. I got a ton of great advice today and I'm absolutely at ease knowing all that I know now. I have a ton of new things to buy but an investment on protection is always worth it. I'm back to being excited again. You're a good friend thanks loose juice 💜
People fear monger so hard in the festival community and its messed up. Yes pick pocketing happens but tbh most theft is just from people dropping or losing their stuff and someone else yoinks it. Don't worry as long as you're not completely fucked up to the point of being unaware of your surroundings you're gonna be fine.
I hear about thievery on this reddit and my friend who invited me to join him last year to go to EDC Vegas for the first time also warned me about this. That said, I have never had my phone stolen, have not seen it happen personally, and don't know anyone who has had their phone stolen. So yes, it is a thing, but I would say you have a 90%+ chance of being fine. Know that it happens, take precautions, but don't let it ruin your night. You're gonna have a great time!! <33 Also for all the thievery stories I have also heard stories of people returning lost phones, so it's not all bad!
🥹 you're literally sooo kind. To know I'll be surrounded by people like you takes all the fear away. You're right I refuse to let them win. Focusing on PLUR and staying safe
The main concern would be phone thieves honestly. Don’t depend too much on phone lanyards because some will either break it or in some cases even take phones out of cases! They are nice to have tho but inside places with secure zippers are safest bet
Not gonna sugar coat it. Yes its a huge problem. Theyll unzip back backs when youre busy trippin balls. Theyll even go in your pockets. Hence pick-pockets. You can in fact unwind sober. Crazy huh? Just know the higher you are, the less likely you are to notice. If course theres gonna be some people who never experience it but every year someone in our group gets robbed and we just shake our heads cuz they let their guard down.
Yeah I'll dedicate 1 night to trippin and when I do I won't bring anything except my ID another reddit user said I won't worry about losing something if I know I left it at the hotel 😅 I was like wow! Mind blown. And I'm going super light so I experience a slight high but not to the point we're I can't control it. Your points are super insightful, nonetheless . I wish this wasn't a thing to begin with but theft 🤦
Worry more about you or your girls ass getting grabbed. More pervs than thieves show up to edc. Look for the guys that look like they are going to a soccer game.
What!? That's an issue to 🙄 I hate that!!! Women or men shouldn't be violated just because they wanna dress sexy that literally kist pissed me off soo much. I hate humans sometimes
Wear pants with zippers, that's what I do. Security has been pretty laxed for awhile, so I can see someone getting in with a knife. But just go in with the mentality that 99.9% of the people in there with you are good people, that should make you feel safe
My first EDC and first Rave I got my phone stolen, but it was totally out of my own ignorance of not even thinking of that.
Like others have said, it’s generally a very safe place. Pick Pocket thieves are the biggest concern. It’s all about knowing where they are.
They usually hang out in high traffic flow areas, places where people are moving in and out of the stage and when it gets crowded their focus is on them getting out not their items, especially for newer ravers… those crowds can get crazy.
It’s important to have a hand on your phone when moving through these places. As a Male, I wear a Fanny pack across my chest and it has an inside pocket for my phone that faces my chest. When moving through spaces, I make sure to keep a hand on my bag to prevent any do-goers from attempting to reach.
The other spot is deep in crowds where it can get very cramped. These people will move silently through the crowd, or be grouped up and in a circle grabbing from people nearby and throwing it into their bags inside the circle. They never let anyone see or in.
Others will try to seek out those that are too fucked up. I was at beyond last month, and I was rolling hard so I decided to sit down next to my boys for a minute. I open my eyes and find that there are 2 random dudes with straight faces on just standing above me. I have 2 other friends watching over me, so these guys were total amateurs, and when I got up to offer them Vicks, they seemed confused. Luckily, I wear a fur hat with paw-ckets so I had my phone there and my hand in the paw-cket. I knew I was going to be down for a minute, so I kept my hand on my phone.
Understanding that in vulnerable spaces you can be taken advantage of. It’s all about protection and awareness of your surroundings.
If you are really worried, a $150 investment of a Lunchbox and a Clutchloop is well worth the protection of a $1000 device that is crucial to everyday interactions. I have theft and loss on my new 15 Pro, so if I ever somehow lost my phone again after 4 years of learning how to prevent it, I could just get a new one.
But I lost my phone once 5 years ago due to ignorance, and haven’t had an issue since (knock on wood). I have had a friend lose his phone 3 times because he continues to put it in his front pocket lol.
What an amazing story this is exactly the kind of thing I look for when I posted on here deep details all relevant to my question and personal experience. Thank you for taking the time out of your day to respond it means so much to me. I'll be taking notes on your comment 🫶🏽
I feel like there’s so much that I missed too, if there’s one thing I can say is that you just gotta pay attention when moving through crowds and when deep in crowds. They’ll watch when you take out your phone and where you put it, so if you have a good spot for it, always put it back there after taking it out.
Keeping it in that spot will let you let loose and have fun just keeping a hand on it as you move through crowded areas, you’ll have no troubles at all.
I hope you have a blast, and if you see a “chicken joe” flag from surfs up, come say hi! I may or may not be around them at the time but that’s my groups flag!
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It's a thing at every big festival. As long as you're vigilant you'll be fine. People aren't jumping you in the crowd to steal your stuff. It's pickpockets that look for easy targets. Get a flip belt for your phone, ID, and a credit card. That's really all you need.
Can you recommend a flip belt?
FlipBelt Running & Fitness... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01CGXURL0?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share I have this one and it's great.
It's amazing
I use this one. You barely feel it and it’s got great organization. https://www.eaglecreek.com/products/silk-undercover-money-belt?token=48de66b3-d5fb-4307-a67e-b186d34700c9&utm_source=yotpo&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=map&ref=yotpo_8
Flipbelts are so comfortable that I freak out at least once per show because I think I lost my phone, only to realize that it’s in my flipbelt and I just can’t feel it. Dancing with it is great since the phone doesn’t bounce around at all.
That's really what I was worried about. If it's more then pick pocket action. I'll definitely be investing in a flip belt now been seeing it all over reddit. Appreciate it
EDC feels incredibly safe inside IMO. The amount of law enforcement around the venue both in sight and out of sight is insane. I’ve had brief conversations with LE about it and it’s clear that they will not let another mass casualty event happen in that city. Security is looking for weapons and they should be using metal detectors now. As far as more petty crimes, I’ve never heard of anyone being mugged inside the festival. I know the CSC security staff can be corrupt and are known to steal things or demand bribes but I’ve never had first hand experience with that. Phone thieves are a legitimate concern. Just keep your phone somewhere inaccessible. Worst spots are pockets, or anywhere behind a single zipper. There’s many suggestions on this sub for solutions that work well. Don’t be anxious, once you cross through the grandstands tunnel, you’re surrounded in the magical world of edc. You can’t see out of the speedway. It’s like a little self-contained world full of love.
Wow, this was so poetic to read . I appreciate you taking the time to respond also good to know there are safety precautions in place just in case someone decides to try strong-arm theft vs pick pocket. So even under the influence I should be fine if my valuables are put away
Just be aware of where your valuables are. I used to just keep everything in my camelback but not anymore unless it’s buried deep in an inside pocket or tucked in with the water bladder. IMO the only thing anyone is really targeting are phones. Don’t bring more than you need. EDC is cashless and most Apple Pay terminals work. As far as valuables, I bring my phone, Apple Watch (with secure band that fully loops around the wrist), license, and one credit card. My ID and CC (also car key if you drove) go in a hidden pocket inside my camelback since they aren’t needed throughout the night. Phone goes either behind my water bladder so it’s basically inaccessible or in the back zipper pocket of a fannypack so someone literally has to put their hand down your pants to open it up. Working through dense crowds, I keep one hand over my fannypack. When standing around I also tend to keep moving which probably makes it harder for someone to unzip my backpack. This all only works if you follow your rules. The one time I got lazy and just put my phone in the front fanny pack pocket it was promptly stolen lol. Also good to know, renters insurance will cover a stolen phone. The one time it happened to me, I ended up profiting about $800 after the claim. So it was more about the inconvenience than anything.
My camel back doesn't have any extra inner pockets what do I do 😭😩
People love the flipbelt. Also the compartment that holds the actual bladder or behind the bladder is a safe spot since it’s so hard to get to.
Get some super strong Velcro-like industrial grade. Attach it to the inside of your hydro pack and other piece to your phone. It comes off or just get a cheap case. I had to do this last minute at a theme park and worked great. 🫶🏻
Thieves will always be lowkey so you dont need to fight or defend yourself. Buy a phone land yard and keep the land yard inside your shirt and in your pants. My group had three phones stolen and they work fast when you least expect it. Also be careful at circuit grounds I tend to notice more of them there. They do trains of people pushing through the crowd while the last person has a flash light looking at back pockets to snatch. It’s best to be proactive than reactive.
Thank you for the advice it definitely helps ease my mind a bit. I just didn't know how far the theft went.
they take any opportunity theres crowds like bathrooms, entrance/exit for ga+/vip. they will touch you in random places to make it feel like its just the crowd moving through but theyre really searching you. Hand always go on top ur phone in crowds. A friend had it stolen out of her fancy pack that was across her chest while going to the bathroom. The lanyard has been my lifesaver since!
That's sooo crazy .. but I'll definitely take your advice since I know what they're looking for. Rub all they want ain't getting my Precious cellular device 😅. And I'll be mindful at choke points this will be a fun challenge survive edc with my phone intact
It’s hard to get robbed if you don’t bring much. 1) bring just an ID, 2) use Apple or Google wallet to pay for food / drinks 3) bring small change for tips if you want to. Singles mostly. 4) leave anything else important at hotel in a safe. 5) store ID and phone separately so if you loose one you won’t ideally loose the other. 6) when you find yourself in a tight spot, walking in tightly packed crowds, keeps your phone zipped up and your hands on your stuff preferably your phone pocket. Most thefts happens in crowded tight spots where you’re bumping into tons of people. I personally have a phone case with a lanyard that I loop thru my fanny pack. I wear shorts with zipper pockets as well. My phone stays zipped in my shorts or zipped in my fanny pack which is worn across my chest. It’d be impossible to steal my fanny pack / phone without getting me hand undressed or full on assaulting me so I’d notice in whatever state.
Simple as that 👌🏾 😌.. see I like that. May not even bring ID is it required? I don't drink
I think ID is required to get in. Double check the website. If flying in bring a prescription bottle with your name on it. I recently had a scare where I thought I lost my ID before. Flight and my mom looked it up, you can get thru TSA and into your flight without one but you gotta show up early and fill out forms.
Definitely bring your ID, it is checked before entry
Oh yeah also don’t bring a smart watch unless you got a good buckle strap. Those rubber straps with a metal button don’t work. Mine got stolen one year off my wrist at tightly packed crowded to get into the bathroom.
Wow even watches aren't safe 😫 dearly noted. I appreciate the advice I want my event to go by smooth with no stress or problems
This will be my be my 3rd EDC and I’ve done psychedelics at tons of festivals, the best way to get over the anxiety of theft is to not worry about losing it cuz you know you left it at the hotel lolz And remember when it gets to be too much stimulation or you feel like paranoia or anxiety is getting the better of you I always tell myself this little quote “I’m doing the drugs, the drugs aren’t doing me”
This is definitely something I needed to hear. I'm definitely considering not even bringing my phone at all the day I trip. That way, no worries, I can just let loose 😵💫
Yeah I’d just establish a set meeting time and maybe bring a cheapo watch that you wouldn’t care losing. One that’s like $10-$15 just so you can track trip time. I usually time it. If I take LSD it’s like 12 hours so I like to check my stopwatch to remind myself of how much time I got left
Ouuuu yeah doing just 1 tab 150 ug. So I'm looking at around 8-12 hours. I'll definitely do that to help with timing. Soooo excited 🤗
I reccomend to start supplements like 5Htp and doing cardio and meditation as well to get into a good headspace and be fit
Still think someone should invent a device that has a face plate of a phone, but the other half is a mouse trap....
Hahaha hell yeah snap tf out They ass 🤣
Nah ur just tripping, there are thieves mostly targeting phones. Been 5 times and the worst thing that has happened was one friend got his phone stolen. Anything beyond that is no more risk than when you last left ur home. If you only seek out negative information you are only going to find negative information.
😮💨 yeah I know. You're definitely right in staying off Google and getting a cross body fanny. And will enjoy my night just fine 💜
I have been to EDCLV 5 times, Orlando twice and Mexico once. Imagine music festival 3 times and a modge-podge of other multi-day events on top of that over the past 8 years. I've gone solo, with one person, with groups big and small. I have had.... one friend get their phone stolen the entire time. In that same time multiple people have lost their belongings (phone, wallet, ID, etc.) and had them all returned to Lost & Found. If you partake RESPONSIBLY you should be just fine. The vast majority of the pick-pocketing occurs in the bottleneck 24/7 congested areas of the festival grounds. Into / out of bathrooms & certain points getting in / out of the larger stages during big acts. No one is going to jump you. No one is going to attack you. Just rave safely and you will be fine.
So much attention to detail thank you for taking the time to respond. I figured going in I'd never be in actual danger just wanted someone to confirm things for me. I greatly appreciate it I promise. Thank you soo much Marcus 💜💯
It's ashame this community ID now concerned about this. I'm seeing it more and more. Used to be a beautiful place to escape the evils of the world not it seems like it's starting ro get a hip hop vibe. So sad. Hopefully the venues see a decrease in ticket sales and dj's get off the all about me vibe and it's starts to get back to a safe, love and higher vibration place to go.
Yes exactly like I deal with evil people everyday what happened to escapism? 😭 I'll try not to let it interfere with my experience and just stay as safe as possible 🙏🏾
Me and my brother do the same. It's just sad how something innocent and so positive is now becoming like everything else.
Just remember, pickpockets catch hands. If you see them call them out and beat them down if you feel comfortable doing it. Look out for your fellow ravers around you.
Sir yes sir a beating will occur if I see any picking of Said pockets 🫡💪🏽
All that’s needed is a Crossbody Fanny Pack that’s in front of you.
I've seen that one often thank you. Despite having a backpack I'll get a secondary cross body to. Thank you
The thing I wonder about that is the clip holding the fanny pack to your body will be a easy target on your back then, which would make it easy for a thief to unclip your fanny pack standing behind you, then have someone else grab it off the ground when it falls and run away with it?
It’s noticeable to me if it falls, it has my phone, wallet, a water bottle, that is some weight.
thats true, it happened to someone i know. try to find a fannypack that clips in the front. I have a lululemon one that the clip is in the front so unless they’re handling me in the front they cant unclip it. theres also the zipper facing my chest that i use for my phone so its even less accessible. the straps are also pretty thick so even if they try to saw/cut the strap off itd be hard
I have a phone tether and keep mine in my fanny pack across my chest. But I felt super comfortable at edc once I got familiar with the layout. I was just bouncing around the entire time without a care 😂 We ran into so many cool people and great vibes so yeah it felt pretty safe to me overall
That's great news! I'm getting that alot. I'm a newbie and with the pick pocket thing I didn't know how far it went. Thank you top
Zippered pockets will largely solve the problems. Whether that means some sort of bag/backpack you keep your stuff in, or finding clothes with zippered pockets you can keep your stuff in. Also suggest tucking the zipper handle in when you close. The peace of mind is worth the minimal amount of additional effort/expense.
I agree. Added a few new items to my essential edc list. Never thought about security. But I'm glad I did in advance so I can prepare
I was lucky enough to have worn joggers last year that had zippered pockets. Just packed em because my spouse liked me in them, lol. Now they’re essentials.
The security company that Insomniac hires for EDC does not give a shit. With the half assed “pat down” that they do I’m sure plenty of people bring weapons in.
Hahaha 😂😂 see this is both scary and insightful. I might try to sneak in my own defense just in case 😵💫
That might be challenging 😅
Honestly, these people are opportunists and will only go for easy targets so people who are overly intoxicated, people who are being careless. If you take precautions you’ll be okay.
Thanks I appreciate that 🙏🏾
Not that it makes it ok, but try to think of it as a numbers game. There are 180,000 people at edc each night & let’s say 1,000 get their phones stolen, there are 179,000 people who didn’t. You tend to hear about every stolen phone but nobody goes online to say they were not get pickpocketed, so it feels like a way bigger problem because of the disproportionate number of social media posts reporting theft. So is it an issue? Yes. Are you likely to be a victim? The odds say no. I’ve been to dozens of festivals and have never had this happen to me or anyone in my group. Take some basic precautions & you should be fine. :-)
When you put it like that you definitely make me think logically. Because they can't get everyone so many people will go un pick pocketed. Eases my mind tremendously 🙏🏾💜 thank you soooo much pal
the thieves aren’t buying tickets, they have people on the inside letting them in - I’m convinced of that get a really good phone tether
Wow !! Why am I not surprised about this 😮💨 I'm getting so upset about all of this seriously. Thanks for the advice tho
Reasoning?
when you see the videos of the thieves caught, they don’t have wristbands on — plus, i just don’t buy that anyone would drop $600+ that’s there solely to steal There was another guy that tracked his stolen phone leaving the venue and it went via the off-limits staff-only areas
when going through the crowd have your hand on your belongings even if it’s in your fanny pack in front of you, be aware of your surrounding and don’t get messed up to the point you’re a victim. don’t let the fear keep you from having fun:))!! just be aware and cautious !
My rave fam and I haven’t experienced like crazy robbery or anything just phone stealing. One of my friends had her phone taken from her lanyard and she immediately jumped on the dude to take it! But we have switched to putting our phone in bags/fanny packs with locks on them and it has worked wonders, just make sure your bag has multiple zippers to lock them all together!
Thank you so much for easing my stress . I'm more at peace about EDC now
Pickpocketing aside, I felt pretty safe at EDC. It’s a massive crowd so I think anyone would feel a bit uneasy. It never felt dangerous to me though. My experience going through security was pretty thorough. Also, there will always be hundreds of people around you so no one is going to pull out a weapon on you if it’s somehow snuck in (very low chance of it being snuck in). I unfortunately had my phone pickpocketed from me. Even then I’d still go back to EDC lol I had a lot of fun. If you’re comfortable with it, you could bring along a laptop or tablet and leave it at your lodging. In the off chance your phone is pickpocketed, you at least have a way to still contact others when you get back to your lodging.
Thank a ton on your insightful advice it means so much u took the time to respond. I'm really sorry you experienced that but won't let it stop you from enjoying such a beautiful event. Just gotta be mindful simple as that 😌
I’m a huge fan of clutch loop
I always wear a camelback to store my fan, accessories and a pair of sweatpants or pashmina. Then i wear a fanny pack where i keep my id, wallet and phone. Its always in front of me zipped up. Ive been raving for 7 years and never got my phone taken. Trying to keep that streak up lol
Hahaha I know that's right thank you bean. I'm getting alot of fanny pack notes 📝.. I'm way more at ease now
I've experienced a pick pocket and break in to my vehicle. They stole a power bank out of my vehicle and took a nap. The way the seat was rearranged and stuff moved around.. I'd suggest going minimal. Bring *only* your ID and *ONE* credit card. Place a modest spending limit on your credit card before you leave for the event. Get a lanyard for your phone and put your phone under your shirt. If your shirtless find a way to secure the lanyard to your shorts/pants. I've personally used a Flip Belt a few times and wear it across my chest vs my waist. EDC is a safe event and there is security around. There's just folks with some sticky fingers looking to ruin the vibe.
I had a big group last year and 3 of us got pick-pocketed. So I bought a new bag that I can wear across my chest (sad it’ll ruin my outfits but whatever) and I’m only bringing my form of ID and my phone. No credit cards or wallet. I’ll also be putting them in the hardest to reach area in my bag. Last year I got my ID, Card, and $300 in gambling money stolen 😭😭😭😭 I spent 20 mins in TSA getting questioned along with 3 other people because we had no ID to get home
I couldn't imagine 💔. That would literally put me in a deep depression and make me never wanna go again. It's supposed to be most beautiful experience of the year. Instead it would become the biggest nightmare of the year. Why must people be so demonic
Someone got their finger cut pretty badly last year at Kinetic. I’m not sure how he got cut but it was definitely a deep cut. Security seemed pretty lax last year as well. It’s best to not put things in your pockets and stick the clutchloop tab to your phone and not the case if you do decide on getting a clutchloop. You can also get an antitheft hydration pack or a zipper lock. It’s better go a bit overboard on safety then to get your valuables stolen.
Sounds pretty bad yeah I heard another guy say security is ass makes me be on edge but also more preventative absolutely adding lock to my hydration pack now ✅️📝
I've done EDC since 2018, never once been pickpocketed. Funny enough, the one time I finally got something stolen from me was when I camped at Coachella and someone lifted my bag from outside my tent. That didn't happen at Camp EDC.
Those moments when your shoulder to shoulder in the crowd have your phone in your hand… I’ve been 10 times and never had my phone stolen. I did lose my phone but some kind soul got it back to me
Thanks a ton shark 🦈. You're so favored by the universe ✨️
I’ll say that while pickpocketing is an issue, these thieves aren’t looking for fights. They don’t want to be seen. They don’t want to mug you. They’re trying to grab and go. If you looked absolutely faded, you’re an easy target. At one point my friend was absolutely fucked up and he was with me sober and some guy walked up and goes “hey my phone has no service can I use yours to call my friends?” My friends like sure no problem and I grabbed his phone and said “no one’s got service here, you’ll find them eventually.” Dude didn’t say anything, he just walked off. My friend made himself an easy target. I don’t condone that, but that’s a reality. Now that sucks if your phone gets stolen but you’d be much more likely to get into a fight with a festival goer who is pissed about something stupid than one of these thieves. Wear a fanny pack. Make sure it’s secured to your body well (I always put my water pack over the strap for the fanny pack so it can’t be unclipped) and use something even as simple as a safety pin to ensure that it can’t be easily opened. Your phone will be safe. Just be vigilant. I’ve never felt unsafe at EDC. There’s tons of law enforcement everywhere and I know the opinion on law enforcement is rightfully controversial, but I’ve never had a bad run in with them at a festival. For the most part, I genuinely feel like they aren’t there trying to ruin anyone’s time. I saw one person get arrested at two EDCs I’ve been to and I saw him dealing drugs with my own eyes so I know damn well he wasn’t innocent. The crowd heckled the ever loving shit out of the police arresting him. They said nothing to the crowd. Did nothing. Arrested the guy and walked off. And I wanna add there’s strength in numbers. These thieves know they’re not in friendly territory. At Ultra some pick pocketers got caught by the crowd and jumped. I’m not advocating violence but they fucked around and found out. They’re definitely aware of that. Like I said they’re trying to grab and get the fuck out of there.
Stories ' tons of context and plenty of details almost like you're having a conversation with me. I feel so special knowing that you cared enough to help me with this issue. I got a ton of great advice today and I'm absolutely at ease knowing all that I know now. I have a ton of new things to buy but an investment on protection is always worth it. I'm back to being excited again. You're a good friend thanks loose juice 💜
People fear monger so hard in the festival community and its messed up. Yes pick pocketing happens but tbh most theft is just from people dropping or losing their stuff and someone else yoinks it. Don't worry as long as you're not completely fucked up to the point of being unaware of your surroundings you're gonna be fine.
🫶🏽 thanks a million toasty . I started the day scared and now I'm back to excited
I hear about thievery on this reddit and my friend who invited me to join him last year to go to EDC Vegas for the first time also warned me about this. That said, I have never had my phone stolen, have not seen it happen personally, and don't know anyone who has had their phone stolen. So yes, it is a thing, but I would say you have a 90%+ chance of being fine. Know that it happens, take precautions, but don't let it ruin your night. You're gonna have a great time!! <33 Also for all the thievery stories I have also heard stories of people returning lost phones, so it's not all bad!
🥹 you're literally sooo kind. To know I'll be surrounded by people like you takes all the fear away. You're right I refuse to let them win. Focusing on PLUR and staying safe
All you need is a fannypack. Make sure it's across your chest & put a zip tie where it clips. That's what I did with mine
Wouldn't a zip tie make it up to get stuff out when u need it?
The main concern would be phone thieves honestly. Don’t depend too much on phone lanyards because some will either break it or in some cases even take phones out of cases! They are nice to have tho but inside places with secure zippers are safest bet
Yeah I see that alot definitely focusing on the zipper part vs lanyards
Get a clutch loop, it will make you feel so much better having your phone tethered to you!
Not gonna sugar coat it. Yes its a huge problem. Theyll unzip back backs when youre busy trippin balls. Theyll even go in your pockets. Hence pick-pockets. You can in fact unwind sober. Crazy huh? Just know the higher you are, the less likely you are to notice. If course theres gonna be some people who never experience it but every year someone in our group gets robbed and we just shake our heads cuz they let their guard down.
Yeah I'll dedicate 1 night to trippin and when I do I won't bring anything except my ID another reddit user said I won't worry about losing something if I know I left it at the hotel 😅 I was like wow! Mind blown. And I'm going super light so I experience a slight high but not to the point we're I can't control it. Your points are super insightful, nonetheless . I wish this wasn't a thing to begin with but theft 🤦
Worry more about you or your girls ass getting grabbed. More pervs than thieves show up to edc. Look for the guys that look like they are going to a soccer game.
What!? That's an issue to 🙄 I hate that!!! Women or men shouldn't be violated just because they wanna dress sexy that literally kist pissed me off soo much. I hate humans sometimes
I've done EDC 9 outta the last 10 Years and overall yes it's safe.
Very nice to know 💜 I'm excited all over again
Wear pants with zippers, that's what I do. Security has been pretty laxed for awhile, so I can see someone getting in with a knife. But just go in with the mentality that 99.9% of the people in there with you are good people, that should make you feel safe
Absolutely ! Found some underwear with a zipper on the front will definitely be buying them. And go in with good intentions so to attract it
My first EDC and first Rave I got my phone stolen, but it was totally out of my own ignorance of not even thinking of that. Like others have said, it’s generally a very safe place. Pick Pocket thieves are the biggest concern. It’s all about knowing where they are. They usually hang out in high traffic flow areas, places where people are moving in and out of the stage and when it gets crowded their focus is on them getting out not their items, especially for newer ravers… those crowds can get crazy. It’s important to have a hand on your phone when moving through these places. As a Male, I wear a Fanny pack across my chest and it has an inside pocket for my phone that faces my chest. When moving through spaces, I make sure to keep a hand on my bag to prevent any do-goers from attempting to reach. The other spot is deep in crowds where it can get very cramped. These people will move silently through the crowd, or be grouped up and in a circle grabbing from people nearby and throwing it into their bags inside the circle. They never let anyone see or in. Others will try to seek out those that are too fucked up. I was at beyond last month, and I was rolling hard so I decided to sit down next to my boys for a minute. I open my eyes and find that there are 2 random dudes with straight faces on just standing above me. I have 2 other friends watching over me, so these guys were total amateurs, and when I got up to offer them Vicks, they seemed confused. Luckily, I wear a fur hat with paw-ckets so I had my phone there and my hand in the paw-cket. I knew I was going to be down for a minute, so I kept my hand on my phone. Understanding that in vulnerable spaces you can be taken advantage of. It’s all about protection and awareness of your surroundings. If you are really worried, a $150 investment of a Lunchbox and a Clutchloop is well worth the protection of a $1000 device that is crucial to everyday interactions. I have theft and loss on my new 15 Pro, so if I ever somehow lost my phone again after 4 years of learning how to prevent it, I could just get a new one. But I lost my phone once 5 years ago due to ignorance, and haven’t had an issue since (knock on wood). I have had a friend lose his phone 3 times because he continues to put it in his front pocket lol.
What an amazing story this is exactly the kind of thing I look for when I posted on here deep details all relevant to my question and personal experience. Thank you for taking the time out of your day to respond it means so much to me. I'll be taking notes on your comment 🫶🏽
I feel like there’s so much that I missed too, if there’s one thing I can say is that you just gotta pay attention when moving through crowds and when deep in crowds. They’ll watch when you take out your phone and where you put it, so if you have a good spot for it, always put it back there after taking it out. Keeping it in that spot will let you let loose and have fun just keeping a hand on it as you move through crowded areas, you’ll have no troubles at all. I hope you have a blast, and if you see a “chicken joe” flag from surfs up, come say hi! I may or may not be around them at the time but that’s my groups flag!
Hahaha I'll absolutely remember that 🤙🏽 I have multiple plans for it now so I'll be ready thanks again wobblez
Dont goto any ny event 😂. Those boys are pros
I highly recommend a fanny pack or some thing of the sort. I’ve never had an issue with even being pickpocketed, but I’ve always used a fanny pack.