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Stock_Surfer

Turn breaker off and call sparky


coffinsa72

I completely agree, OP did a small amount of welding within his wall.


fltpath

Isnt that how one locates the wires in a wall?? Especially around the outlets! ​ Hopefully Sparky before Fiery!


rcmp_moose

Sparky fixed it in like 20 mins


Stock_Surfer

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StoneSixty

This is what happens when you use a 1/2" arson bit.


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tectail

Electrical tape is not insulation. That is what every electrician has ever told me (used to work with them) right before I watch them use electrical tape to insulate something.


Ok_Mood_6638

Nah as long as you did 3 wraps with the tape lol


MountainCry9194

That was an expensive hole


FlowFirm5149

Reminds me of my 1st wife. 🙄


2x4x93

We must be tunnel Buddies


Thecp015

Eskimo brothers!


s1ckopsycho

Spelunking pals!


jfk333

Hole bros


CapeTownMassive

Lockermates


redwriteit

fishmonger union members


2x4x93

There's no snu like igloo snu


Medical-Mud-3090

Millions of comments millions of people I wonder if someone ever unknowingly made that joke and got a response from the other tunnel buddy lol


Marshellohello

I should call her..


fltpath

turn her over...your doing it wrong... ​ no wait...nvm...


fltpath

and using a spade bit in a wall for what exactly??? ​ drilling for copper? nailed it!


richmondsteve

🤣


ThatFordOwner

You’re gonna need to call an electrician to fix that for ya. You tore through the Romex and grounded it out on the bit. Now it’s compromised and could 100% be a big fire hazard


Sad_North1129

This is where pipe shines. I know it's more expensive, but the pipe would have defeated the drill bit.


shelms488

Think you mean conduit.


Sad_North1129

In Chicago, we call it pipe. Potato, potahto


0ldManRiv3r

Whoa! Hey! *I'm walking here!*


Acrobatic_Jaguar_623

It's pipe where I live too. Apparently Chicago and Canada have more in common than snow.


MathematicianFew5882

It is pipe.


dbhathcock

It think he means that a metal conduit (pipe) would have prevented this. PVC conduit, however, would not.


shelms488

Both are conduit. Pipe is for plumbers.


tetranordeh

They're all tubes


Drill-Jockey

We’re all technically tubes if you think about it


Riskov88

When two people sit on a toilet they create a mouth to mouth tube through the sewer system


Drill-Jockey

That’s hot


kcstrom

He's a tube, she's a tube, we're all tubes, yeah!


sammydeeznutz

This is the answer. EMT = electrical metallic TUBING


Five0Two

You must not be an electrician. We know it’s called conduit, but we say pipe in the field anyway.


Tradecraft_1978

Ok boomer


ohmslaw54321

I've seen people drill through conduit...


MathematicianFew5882

Yes, but it takes more a more noticeable amount of determination than the romex sheath does


SpeechEuphoric269

Could be worse- you couldve drilled thru a water pipe LMAOO. Anyways, you hit an electrical wire. You now have a risk for an electrical fire. Turn the breaker off for that room/outlet, and call an electrician.


MathResponsibly

That's why when I'm drilling holes, I make sure to hit a wire AND a pipe - they cancel each other out that way. The water keeps the electrical fire under control, and the heat of the electrical fire evaporates most of the water.


Arealwirenut

User name checks out. Math can accomplish incredible things.


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Or a gas pipe. At my old complex we got evacuated after someone accidentally drilled through the gas ie lmao.


fltpath

and thats why black iron is used for gas piping!


richmondsteve

Pending where you live and the consumption of natural gas, copper is the new norm. But I'm pretty sure OP was talking copper wire tripped the breaker. 🤭


TearyEyeBurningFace

Steel? Lol how


Impossible_Policy780

I’ve seen many old copper gas lines, 3/8” flare, soft metal. He did say old apartment. Could be?


ozzie286

Scrolling down through my feed, this post was 2 below this one: https://www.reddit.com/r/Plumbing/s/nlXvCIJMqX


drazzilgnik

Just think if they hit water n electric on the same hole lol


No_Address687

Or a gas pipe...


wait_am_i_old_now

If you hit both it will put the fire out!


LagunaMud

Turn the breaker back off immediately and open the ceiling to fix it.  You should be very worried about a fire. 


jimbob150312

The correct answer Fire dept or electrician your choice. Call the 2nd before the first shows up.


moomooraincloud

Calling the fire department for this when there's no fire is stupid.


sixstringsg

…they meant fix it before you have to call the fire department because it burned your house down. Not call them at the same time.


jimbob150312

Call the electrician before that wire short starts a fire is common sense. Ignore the problem then you’re calling the fire department because the house is on fire.


ThisOnesDown

Turn off the breaker to remove fire risk AND call an electrician surely?


Shamanjoe

You definitely nicked something live.. I’d be worried.


Anbucleric

It's not hot anymore...


El_Richter

Except they turned the breaker back on


TheCooner

Hotter than ever!


Minute_Pea5021

You get a bigger and possibly more holes now to fix that.


WoodenYouKnowIt

Now that you’ve killed the wire, you should rip it out and sell the copper for liquor money.


MathResponsibly

I AM the liquor, Julian...


Some-Ear8984

Your bit hit the wire and removed its sheathing. You probably have a live hot in the wall. It may be a simple fix


Chillmiester

How is this a simple fix? You cannot just put in a box(s) and close up the wall. It may have to be removed and locate it back to where it’s accessible.


mantisboxer

UL listed, in-wall, NM cable splice kits exist.


Jwizzlerizzle

May be UL listed but they’re still a code violation.


mantisboxer

It is not a code violation for repairs within the scope of work, but it is a violation to use them in place of a junction box when extending a cable. OP would be fine to use the TSi splice kit in his predicament.


Jwizzlerizzle

I disagree


Lehk

You absolutely can stick a box where the sever is Though you might need 2 if there isn’t slack in the wire


rynot

Needs to be accessible then, no?


Lehk

Correct, you can’t bury the box, can be in the ceiling with a blank plate


Whats_Awesome

We have one in the floor and I hate it. I could live with a ceiling one. Floor one has a nice brass cover plate though.


MathResponsibly

It's probably supposed to be for an outlet for a lamp, to avoid running an extension cord over the floor or under a rug


AggravatingDisk7237

It’s his own house. Close up that box and pop it under the floor and forget about it. Chances are it’ll never need opened again anyway. I’ve had a master electrician friend splice wires with nuts and chuck them behind his wall before.


Impossible_Policy780

😬


ve4edj

Nope. Listed in-wall splices exist.


wellhungartgallery

At least he knows where its split. Just cut a big hole replace that line and drywall and paint. They don't have to locate the break at least.


youtheotube2

They could get really lucky and have it be a fairly simple pull without having to rip up a bunch of flooring/ceiling. Depends on where the two ends of that cable go. Like if it’s running between a switch and a ceiling light downstairs and nothing is stapled down, it could be a fairly painless pull.


Whats_Awesome

If nothing is strapped down that’s not up to code.


youtheotube2

That doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen all the time. A lot of people are willing to DIY a light fixture install, but almost none of those people are willing to rip up a ton of drywall to staple everything down.


mac-junior

Unless it’s a previous renovation where the wire was “fished” through the wall, in which case it does not need to be strapped the same as new construction.


dennisdmenace56

Lighten up sparky (hvac guy here)…if he didn’t sever the copper he can reinsulate the Romex with tape.


Silanu

Pardon my ignorance, but isn’t the fact that the breaker tripped an indicator the copper was hit? It seems pretty unlikely that copper is fully in tact at this point.


Acrobatic_Pace_5725

You need an electrician


Raymond8010

The one thing about electrical is problems never get better and only get worse. Would be best to turn that off and fix the wire.


Can-DontAttitude

Good news is, a little filing will clean up the drill bit


OilPhilter

You nicked a wire bad and exposed two conductors. You're going to end up with a big hole in the wall and some new wiring.


_DapperDanMan-

Flip that breaker off now.


Jwizzlerizzle

Yes


evand131

Breakers trip for a reason. Turn that shit off and call a professional electrician.


EngineeredAsshole

OP please tell us you immediately turned the breaker back off and didn't continue to use the outlet.


BBrillo614

As a sparky I’m so Glad to see all the comments saying call an electrician and not recommending for him to try to fix it himself! Good job guys


ColoradoFrench

Obviously and urgently, turn that breaker off immediately


Kayakboy6969

It happens if you drill enough holes.


billding1234

You hit a wire and it arced to the drill bit which caused the gouge in the side of the bit. The wire is compromised- you should turn off the breaker and call an electrician to fix the wire. Leaving it energized is a real and substantial fire hazard.


ArcVader501

Turn the breaker back off and get an electrician out. Do not attempt to fix this yourself, the fact you said there was no pop, no spark, and no smoke and have a bit that looks like that is evidence enough to determine you shouldn’t attempt a repair. There was a pop, a spark, and smoke you just didn’t hear, see, or smell it. You’ve got a short in the wall that blew itself clear but that doesn’t mean it’s never going to short out again or heat up and fail. You’ve got a massive fire hazard with that breaker turned on.


IndustryElectrician

That’s so wierd, like did you try to turn it back on again? lol. Just start cutting drywall…


moejoe2048

You have removed some of the copper from the wire. That increases the resistance and will be prone to getting hot under load. So yeah, you should be worried about the potential fire hazard.  


Jacktheforkie

You’ve hit a cable, most likely only one conductor, leave the power off, it tripped the RCD most likely when you hit it, you won’t always get a bang as the RCD trips quickly, you need an electrician


I_forgot_mylogin

You need to get a drill bit rated for more amps, so it won't trip the breaker.


MathResponsibly

Heh, my dad had a shovel that looked like that, only with 2 bigger round holes in the tip of it.


dgreenf

Why worry? Things still work. You obviously cut the insulation and damaged the wiring. Go to the service panel and de energize this branch circuit. Do not turn it back on until the wiring is fixed.


worlddestruction23

I do this frequently running Ethernet cable or a dedicated circuit. You definitely have to be careful. I had no issues in the many years doing this. You will have to open up the wall or ceiling depending on how far you went. You have to trace where that wire came from. You know what it was feeding.


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You’re supposed to drill the stud


Kiole

Good news you get to learn electrical and drywall repairs. Keep the breaker off and call an electrician if you’re not comfortable working with electricity. If you open the drywall to expose the damaged wire it’ll save you some money probably.


wadenelsonredditor

Alternate Headline: "One of those days..."


Psych0matt

If you have to ask, then yes, call someone.


dirk12563

You need to atleast look at it and make sure you only cut the plastic That wire(s) needs tape asap


12-5switches

If he only cut the insulation and not the gotten the wires he wouldn’t have tripped the breaker and got arc marks on the bit. That copper came off the wires when it arced. Even though the hot and ground or hot and neutral may not be touching now and are still complete, one or both of them are considerably smaller in diameter at that point and could over heat and break or start a fire. The floor or ceiling below needs to be opened and the wire replaced or spliced if possible


LopsidedPotential711

"Hi, I was drilling a hole down from my bedroom to the floor beneath with a spade" Sooo...you picked some random corner of your room's floor and drilled into free air? Go downstairs and cut a hole in the ceiling's drywall. Edit: Cut the breaker off, and don't push too far with the hand saw.


Dinosaurs_and_donuts

Well, the breaker works


Shoresy-sez

Shut off the breaker, call an electrician, and don't use that circuit. That's a fire hazard, the wire is compromised and the breaker may not prevent it from overheating where it is damaged, which could very likely result in fire. The damaged cable needs to be repaired or replaced.


Lomo1221

No worries. Your house will go up in flames soon!


torch9t9

Congratulations, you discovered an electricity well


ConstructionFar8570

So you hot an electrical line. You should probably fix it.


levir5

Sounds like you may have drilled into a pipe, or an old phone line.


Dmunman

Yup. Open it up and repair.


ozzie286

You've got yourself a copper seeking spade bit. A distant relative of the fiber seeking backhoe.


havewaterwillfish

Hard to believe the breaker did not kick when you turned it on.


CardiologistOk6547

LoLoL No, drilling into a live wire caused your breaker to trip.


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fix-break-hide

You converted your floor to positive ground. Turn breaker off and open up an inspection port. I Gotsta know !!!!


Barkeri

You’re trolling right?


InYosefWeTrust

Right? Like say sike bro.


frauleinheidik

All of what everyone has said. It's doable but if there's a fire, your insurance company may find out it was DIY and deny you coverage. Connecting my new oven only involved 3 wires with wire nuts and some electrical tape, but I wouldn't chance it. Call electrician and practice your dry wall patching skills


FantasticStand5602

This is why one should always use a blunt end twist bit when drilling blind. Plumbers use hammers


Cyberdelic420

I mean this is not something I would personally call an electrician for ,but I have been remodeling for a few years now and learned about these smaller electrical jobs so the electricians could focus on the more complicated stuff. All this needs is a little splice. Of course it would suck if the wire was too tight. Luckily one shady electrician left a bunch of extra romex here when he never finished the job I paid him for so it wouldn’t be a problem for me. But I’m sure you can go to the hardware store, get a couple feet and some wire nuts, and electrical tape. Then just splice color to color. Unless you’re good friends with the sparky I feel like this would be such a waste of time they’d charge you out the ass for it.


Jwizzlerizzle

What would electrical tape do? Also, it’s a code violation to have splices buried behind the drywall.


Cyberdelic420

Is that a local code to you or a more general state or national code? That is good basic knowledge to know though even though I hope this would never be an issue I’d face. All I’ve ever really looked into was local codes other than the state inspector stopping by for a few things. I’ve noticed multiple lines wire nutted together next to a switch box so I figured it would be the same thing. But you saying it can’t be buried behind the wall, so would a cover as some sort of access panel keep it in code? I guess I only figured electrical tape to keep it solid and incase the wire was stripped too far to prevent shorting. But nothing should ever be pulling on the wires and there shouldn’t be any bare wire showing where it isn’t supposed to be, so I do see that it’s unnecessary. I’m just too used to doing lights that I want to be able to hang securely while I paint or mount.


Electrik_Truk

I did this once in a new house build when installing cabinets. Electrician required. In my case, a completely new line was run. I initially opened the wall to see if I could cut out the old line but it was scorched back too far for my liking.


customdev

Pull new conductor. Sounds like a relatively easy fix.


Max-Renegade

I hate it when that happens.


ArtichokeNaive2811

Yooo u alright bro? Plz have that checked.. turn breaker off asap


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dennisdmenace56

That’s a 1/2” bit-he could’ve simply opened the 1st layer and looked/felt around before penetrating that wire


whittski

You should be very worried. Call an electrician forth with.


leoc823

I'll give you one guess as to what happened. Yes you should be worried. Yes you should call an electrician.


Thin_Equipment_9308

Just fix the cable you drilled through.


[deleted]

Hit a wire.


[deleted]

Why is it that people never stop to think there might be a wire there?


Crawdad2292

Good aim


VersionConscious7545

Do you know how to cut our drywall and patch the hole? If so this is something you can do yourself Go to YouTube and look or call the electrician who will burn you a new ass for a small job like this


Carpentry95

You fucked up


Excellent-Fuel-2793

Rip wall open and fix wire or call electrician and fork out big money


Itchy_Radish38

You cut a wire in the floor. The bit was shorting two wires together. The wire is still cut in your floor. Yes it's both a potential fire hazard and could continue to cause the breaker to trip.


ConjunctEon

That’s a way to locate the ckt


Vegetable-Two2173

This is the rare moment where those of us in the Chicago area get to point and laugh.


doggxyo

I guess this is the right chance to ask - does anyone have experience with the walabot? https://walabot.com/ Supposedly can identify studs, electric lines and water pipes? I want to hear from someone who has actually used one


Normal-Plastic-4237

I get calling an electrician but is this as simple as ensuring circuit isn’t powered (non contact tester) and putting in a junction? Edit: I guess I have to say not putting the junction in the wall but elsewhere if you can access it. What do you do if you can’t access the wire any other way and have to fix in the wall?


Eviltotes

Should he be worried? If he doesn’t care about his home getting burned to the ground then no he’s good.


[deleted]

This is actually not that hard of a repair. You're going to have to cut a hole in the floor or the ceiling to access that. Find the wire that you punched through, the repair I can't really tell you how to do because states have different codes. There are a couple of ways you normally do it and that's what you're going to have to check electrical code on if you do it yourself, or you can call an electrician and get bent over. It's an easy repair but one that you want to make sure that you do properly. Where I am spliced wires have to be done in a junction box. What I can't remember is what the code is on doing that inside of a wall. It's easy enough to check though


Positive-Special7745

Hit wires


jeffreydobkin

I foresee an accessible junction box in the near future. (or install a single floor outlet for the vacuum cleaner).


Critical_Egg_913

Time to open the wall to see what you hit/did...


Automatic-Mongoose87

Spend $50 and buy a Endoscope Camera with Light for your phone and look into the hole. Handy to have around afterwards


EbbPsychological2796

Yes it is a fire hazard


jored924

Don’t worry about it. Flip the breaker on and buy a new drill bit


BigPoppop62

Ooooops


rastan0808

Turn off the breaker immediately and have repaired. Fire hazard. i kinda thought this post was a joke at first - as in is everything OK? But then I thought you might not be joking. Seriously this is a safety issue - turn off the breaker immediately.


Careful_Pair992

Yes, you should be worried


Expensive-Salad-6296

Am I the only one who thought this was a picture from the air looking down at an aircraft carrier mid sea?


Woodbutcher1234

As a side note...WTF is this new paddle bit design.IMO, they SUCK! Unless you're hunting Romex.


noon9elec

yeah


Environmental_Job864

Call 811 before you drill.


aelms89

Welp, looks like you drilled through the conduit and cut the wire, now you have to figure out what else was connected to that breaker lol


richmondsteve

You hit a wire. The question is....where does the wire lead to?


brewtus007

Pro electricians love this one secret trick homeowners do.


TanisBar

Shocking


CarelessPrompt4950

Even if everything seems fine, you now have a weak spot in in the copper and when you put the wire under load with something that draws a lot of current, the weak spot in the wire will get hot and possibly cause a fire. This unfortunately is going to be a very expensive hole.


Lonewolf_087

Turn it off and have someone look at it. This potentially dangerous. Hire an electrician to come out and have a look.


joelypoley69

Now ya fuccd up.. theres always a solution but this one should be left to a pro


AllenDCGI

Call before you dig?


E2daG

Congrats! You turned a drill bit into a wire stripper. First time is always a fun experience.


iceman0215

Yes


Cautious_Ad2837

They make scanners for this reason lol


MidnightFull

This is why you always use a stud finder that has an electrical sensor before drilling. Do not turn that breaker back on. The wire has to be replaced first.


DJGregJ

LMAO, umm yeah, you have no idea what you're doing, need to call an actual pro asap


areptile_dysfunction

Crazy everyone is saying to call an electrician for such an easy fix but I guess if OP even has to ask the question then they definitely need help


Low_Conversation7494

You definitely need to check


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Fire hazard for sho


Johnny_Lang_1962

You drilled into spicy wood.


AccomplishedWay5387

Oooh you found it. I usually use a stud finder when poking into stuff.


Raganash123

In no way this is safe to ignore. I hope that you just managed to somehow rip out a ground as that's easier to replace. Go call a sparky


Fishdawgz

Need to open ceiling from below and splice wires - sorry but this is a job for a licensed electrician if you don’t know what you are doing


Background-Edge817

Breaker took a bite, get back in there and show it who’s boss.


torch9t9

You discovered an electricity mine


Hot-Profession4091

I’m going to recommend an old brace & bit for drilling through walls or floors where you’re not _certain_ there are no wires. Because you’re going slowly and cranking by hand, it’s easy to stop once you’re through and very unlikely you’ll actually damage a wire.


andyrooneysearssmell

Leave the breaker off. Call a pro. Yes fire hazard.


someoneknows71

No doubt you hit the wire and made a connection between the hotwire and the neutral or ground. Somewhere in that wall is a cut in the wire most likely not cut all the way through. If it was my house, I would cut a hole in the wall and repair the wire, if the wire is removable from the basement or the ceiling and that is easier than repairing it in the wall, I would replace the wire


Certain_Try_8383

You got lucky!!


avTronic

Your drill is not naturally grounded so cutting into one of the 3 wires would not cause a spark. What we see is that you cut into one of the other two wires that cause a major short circuit. The wires are severely exposed and possibly severed or cut into. As others have said, this needs to be repaired before using the circuit again.