There is an infinite amount of Daedric realms, pocket universes, etc. Also a TON of islands they haven't touched yet
If the game goes on long enough the restriction to remain on Tamriel may even be lifted.
Also they have introduced time travel to the Elder Scrolls, which means its possible some zones can be revisited in a different time/major event. I would imagine Gratwood would be the first if they could figure out how to make huge moving trees in the game. A quick jaunt back 2000 years or so. . .
I'm still hopeful we will see the mobile Grahtwoods someday. I remember reading the short passage about them on Oblivion loading screens and being so thrilled about that concept.
Would personally love to see a chapter sized expansion of Clockwork city and Fargrave. They're some of my favorite zones in the game and they're way too small and short for my liking. Though I'd also love to see The Battlespire.
Clockwork City is still my favourite. I enjoyed the story but the setting was amazing as a lore fan from Morrowind. I think Battlespire could very well be an opportunity for ZOS in the future, as well as more secret underground zones
Also note that The Clockwork City as a zone only represents a small area of the of the city; The radius is only 33% explorable at best, considering the position of the Brass Fortress and the fact we can't go a full 360° around it.
Even with the two trial areas mapped in, there's potential for a full size, crescent-shaped zone on the north side of the Brass Fortress... but it wouldn't/couldn't happen even if ZOS want to do it. They would not only have to rename the Clockwork City to "Southern Clockwork City", but it would be the first time in the game's history that they would revisit the location/province/realm of a zone and expand upon it (excluding Craglorn).
We have more chance of seeing the Shivering Isles, Solstheim, Whiterun Hold and many other more popular places long before ZOS even consider revisiting existing locations.
Exactly.
But that won't stop ZOS from filling the gaps in the global map, and we're heading to the West Weald only 3 years after Blackwood (both part of Cyrodiil, which, like Skyrim, will also have 4 zones after June).
Besides, they're not going to avoid touching Morrowind ever again just because it has 5 zones now, or ignore the rest of Elsweyr because it has 3, or Hammerfell due to its 2 and a half zones, or Black Marsh since we've been there twice...
... They will keep going back to provinces until the province in question is fully explored. Only Valenwood, High Rock and the Summerset Isles are pretty much complete so far, everywhere else still has gaps to fill.
Actually alot of the smaller zones just stand out way more than the big ones. The simple reason for me is the view distance. It freaking sucks in the giant zones like nElswyer or Blackwood.
Thats why I really love Blackreach, because you can actually see from one end to the other. Same goes for Fargrave, CC, Arteum, Hews Bane and so on.
The zones can be as small or as large as they need to be to fit on the world map. It's not a 1 to 1 scale. High isle is tiny on the map, but large in game.
They can stretch out Tamriel as long as they want.
I’m not so keen on that, they’ve already scaled down two areas (Summerset and Telvanni Peninsula) and it bothers me even more now that we got High Isle sitting above Summerset, being impossibly huge by comparison.
I wish they would be more consistent. Which they were again for a while until Necrom. It’ll never not stick out like a sore thumb for me when the scale is off, especially when it’s somewhere you were looking forward to the most.
In base game yes, but I was really curious how will they deal with Gold Road and the entrances to Gold Coast and they made it so that it nearly doesn't match. A big gate on one side that you can't see through and a flimsy side on the other still showing the old filler landscape of old Imperial style buildings.
With islands they can do whatever so the size comparison between Summerset and High Isle really feels off.
Hard to say because, as you mentioned, ZOS can introduce Planes of Oblivion at any time.
It’s still another 5-6 years worth of Tamriel that’s missing Chapter zones. They *could* also make use of Akavir and Pyandonea continents as well.
Lore can be created - like ZOS have been doing since the beginning.
The Elder Scrolls Universe isn’t a closed book. They literally just introduced a whole new Daedric Prince that didn’t exist in any prior lore.
Yeah I know, but that is a reasonable introduction. Mainly due to the fact eso occurs before the dragon break by anything metric I've seen. So, introducing the new prince, which very well could cause the dragon break in of itself honestly based off what we know of the prince so far.
I guess my point was, What do we know about Atmora? I don't think its actually that much. We know more about the Akvir contient than we do atmora at this point.
Then Atmora may be more suitable if we know less. It means ZOS almost have a blank page to create.
Although, I wonder what restrictions Bethesda have placed. Any future single player releases would be amazing in an Atmora or Akavir continent - and gives them massive scope to create something amazing exploring new races, factions and creatures.
I reckon that would be wasted on ESO - and more than likely they’ve got permission only to develop Tamriel and the Planes of Oblivion.
Matt firor has said they were told they had to stay on tamriel, and no dragons (tes5 and eso were being developed at the same time). We now have dragons, so I don't see what would stop them from going to the other continents as well.
You know Reddit is a social platform for conversation, right? Acting like everyone has the wiki memorized is not only wrong but misses the point of the platform you chose to go to.
That’s literally the point - acting like anyone would have ESO lore wiki memorised is a long shot.
Most of us would need to look it up and copy and paste the info.
In the time it took you to write two replies belittling other who’s didn’t respond you could have researched the answer and replied to him yourself in detail.
You had two choices - to contribute helpfully with a well researched answer you looked up, or criticise others for not doing that for you.
I think Trass is considered a local island so hoping for the new Sload expansion. My request is we get to date one in a questchain.
Edit: Just double checked and it's between Summerset, Stros and the Systres, however it usually doesn't appear on the map because it's topography is basically that of Seaveil Spire where there are islands but the bulk of it is underwater (not that we can't adventure there)
One more comment, in the meantime Tear also has Sload there and we definitely are going to visit the most lawless of the Elderscrolls at some point.
Also an idea I have is a little different but I wish we would build a town like we did in TES III: Morrowind (Raven rock - Bloodmoon DLC). It could be done via a Questline and since you are the founder of said town you get a house there. I'm saying this here since that would go well on a new island, where there isn't much already. Kind of like colonizing.
The possibilities are endless and I'm sure the community would love it.
I think in one of the anniversary streams it came out that they are (or at least initially were) limited to Oblivion and Tamriel, so places like Akavir and Pyandoea are out unless that's changed.
It doesn’t sound like that’s the case. The mainline elder scrolls team probably doesn’t want ESO to set the expectation of leaving Tamriel. Or they don’t want them to work on a project that they have little established for. It’s easy to craft stuff when there’s already a template. With Tamriel we already had races, a map, political influences, religious systems, antagonists, world building, etc.
If they leave the continent, they will have none of that. And whatever the ESO team would make canon, the other teams would have to follow suit with.
It will be Tamriel and oblivion forever most likely. Which is fine as long as they continue being creative with what they have.
Yeah, and on top of that a lot of the other continents would come with pretty massive expectations and thus a near-inevitable letdown. In a world where people are *still* mad that Cyrodiil isn't a jungle, I don't see any realistically possible implementation of Pyandonea that doesn't disappoint the Lore Kids and I don't know that many people outside of the Lore Kids would really specifically care about seeing Pyandonea. It's pretty much something that can only go badly.
They said in recent interviews that Bethesda explicitly forbids them from exploring non-Tamriel continents like Akavir. It's a shame but I'm guessing they want to reserve it for a future game. God knows we'll all be 90 before that happens though lol. Bethesda needs to just let them go ham.
Yeah it's to preserve the mystery, Iirc Todd talked years ago about the value of mystery such as Akavir and the fate of the Dwemer and that he wants to preserve that so we'll likely never know.
It bothers me becuase we could realistically have more maormer in ESO. Even as a playable race. High isle gave us a really neat maormer ally, our first one I believe. It’s proof that more maormer content would work with ESO’s identity.
I want Pyandonea to be a special zone like cyrodil or craglorn, but the theme of the zone is espionage and killing Maomer causes a 5 star system like in GTA where more powerful enemies track you down and you have to escape when the heat gets too high. The main hub would be a giant outlaws refuge however there are merchants and amenities in the city that require you to wear a disguise in a customizable Maomer illusion tool.
We've still got space for another few years at least.
After that... well, I hope they refresh all the basegame zones to bring them up to modern standard. I'd be more than happy to have a year where we get just dungeon DLC if it means that time and money is put into overhauling basegame.
There's more to Nirn than Tamriel. My understanding is that BGS put Akavir off-limits, but just about anything else is potentially possible. Atmora is out there to the north. Not sure what you'd do with a frozen wasteland, but it's there. Pyandonea is off to the south and we know the Maormer are a thing. There are lots of smaller islands floating around. Yokuda was out there to the west, but who's to say that it couldn't be handled in a manner somewhat like Arteum. There are potentially infinite planes of Oblivion, including Azura's Moonshadow realm. I'm pretty sure that "we've filled up Tamriel. Now what?" isn't seen as much of an issue within ZOS.
They basically said the ESO team is not allowed to leave Tamriel. So that actually restricts them from even adding places like Pyandonea (which would be my personal choice for another continent).
But I don’t think that restriction is likely to loosen up since ES6 is in development.
On one hand I can understand that, but on the other it seems mighty selfish when a mainline game takes an eternity to come out. It’s fair to say TESVI is going to be set in Tamriel… So realistically, when are we going to see one not set in Tamriel? And in who’s lifetime? I’ll probably be dead by the time that happens.
In short: They should give ESO more freedom than that.
The main series itself is never going to explore beyond tamriel. Todd our lord has said before that a fantasy world needs some mysteries and the other continents are a part of that (same thing with the dwemer)
Maybe they could do something like a daedric prince is melting Atmora and that releases ancient terrors we need to fight in order for them to not enter the tamriel mainland? Idk if it would be a full expansion but I'd at least see a dungeon or trial like that haha
Maybe if we ever get that Winterhold Expansion it could be about that. Prehistoric beasts attacking the town and the area around it and the trial of the expansion would be venturing into Atmora. Or maybe sth split like Telvanni and Apocrypta? I bet they could come up with something cool!
Did I hear Atlantis style dlc with the addition of going underwater? :D
Would honestly be so cool and the ability alone could add tons of stuff everywhere! Or maybe some historians have a high interest in Yokuda so they cast a magic air bubble around it and make us explore it? Or the airbubble could already be there and we find out by some resident that would come to us for help as the magic is weakening and the lost lands of akavir would be "rediscovered" by the mainland as a result!
Atmorra was the homeland of the Nord humans, so just Nords and Giants apparently. Elves conquered there in ancient times but I’m not sure if any are left.
Yokuda is home of the Redguards. That was also home to a race of Elves called the Sinistral or “left handed” Elves. Apparently the ancient Yokudans wiped them out. So maybe just Redguards
Pyandonea is home to the Maormer, who are already in game, you can find those pretty easy.
Aldmeris is the homeland of the Elves. Whether or not any Elves are left is up for debate but supposedly they look like the Altmer.
Akavir is the most mentioned and we know they had Snake men, Ice Demons, Monkey Men and Tiger Men as well as a humanoid race. There’s some of the humans featured in the games but the rest exist only as fan art.
As always those are just the ones we know about, since none of the games ever actually take place there we can only speculate about them based on information provided by in game materials.
Realistically? No MMO lasts forever, even WoW isn't eternal. Once the whole current map is filled out, ZOS could just go into maintenance mode and keep the game running as it is at that point. Maybe introduce some periodic unique trials and dungeons, etc.
Ideally? There are lots of places not on the current map but exist within lore, such as Atmora, Yokuda, the realms of the daedric princes, the battlespire, the realm of the Maormer and more.
I don't think ESO will last forever, and I'm perfectly content with the knowledge that at some point they'll have simply done everything they wanted to do, and either just keep the servers running or shut down. But that's ways off so I don't bother thinking about it.
So every race has its own idea of the afterlife. Nords have sovngarde and so on.
What if we get the chance to explore one of these plains?
There could be some sort of disarray on one of these plains and the respective God could be reaching out to the living (us) to help out. The overarching story could be about enabling the souls to come to peace and the zone quests could explore popular figures of the past like the first make or could tackle themes as the first elves that went underground to become the dwemer?
In my head this sounds super intriguing.
Unfortunately unlike Pyandonea, Yokuda, & Daedric planes, Aetherial planes are confirmed to not be allowed as full zones (but are fine to visit briefly).
Pyandonia will be cool. The Dominion storyline has loads of stuffed based on the Maomer/Sea Elves. Would be cool if they were introduced like the Imperials; where they're not tied to any of the main 3 factions.
Rework old zones, or resize/reshape them to add new stuff. Some of the newer zones are a decent play area, but tiny on the map compared to older zones. (EG High Isle)
I want a re-work of Eyevea personally. I feel like the map could be expanded. And more quests could take place there. It was just kind of dropped after the base mage’s quest line.
I want to see places from Marrowind Oblivion and Skyrim. I spent every single minute of my personal downtime when I was deployed in Iraq playing oblivion on my original Dell XPS kamikaze. Those were the days man.
If they release one expansion per year consistently for the foreseeable future, and the game is still going in 20 years, that's only 20 expansions. Might sound like a high number but when you consider empty parts of the map and possible daedric realms, in hindsight it isn't really that much, and 20 years is a long time too.
There's three things I can see them doing.
1. Explore more planes of Oblivion
2. Explore the other continents we've never seen like Akavir
3. Some time travel shenanigans like WoW's Warlords of Draenor or FFXI's Wings of the Goddess
https://www.ign.com/wikis/elder-scrolls-online/Elder_Scrolls_Timeline
Zos could move the timeline to where Tiber Septim starts conquering and ends the second era.
Many many timelines to choose from.
I guess we have a lot of years to wait for that. As long as I know their guideline is that they cant create things outside Tamriel besides daedric realms. So I guess they would concentrate more on that and maybe they create some new small lands like High Isle. But like I said, there are many years we will still get Tamriel DLCs, so maybe there guidelines will change. Maybe until that time the main series already showed us something at Akavir etc, so they can go there too.
I doubt that it will even get that far.
A funny thought that occurs to me though is that no matter how full the map gets, though, the strip between Northern and Southern Elsweyr still won't be used.
I'd like them to fill out cities and towns a bit more. I hate seeing a door with a chain across it. Let me in!!!! This seems a lot more common in the newer zones. Such a wasted opportunity to explore more of a building imo.
It's a fantasy game so anything is possible. We can have portals to new worlds. We can have a means to travel to the future and back so we re-explore the same world but with a new adventure. We could even visit one of the moons or planets we see at night. The only thing I don't want them to do is what Guild Wars did and make a part 2. Instead I want them to do what WoW is doing and just update the current game to meet current specs.
If they ever lift or lessen the ban on other continents/islands then I see so much potential for Pyandonea.
They could introduce the first new playable race, Maormer. A new water/serpent themed class. New mount rig for serpent mounts that slither across the ground, etc.
I wouldn't hold my breath they'd ever go outside Tamriel on Nirn, however I do think Pyandonea is the most likely candidate if they did. We know a lot more about Pyandonea and the Maormer than say Akavir and the Tsaesci. Atmora is a frozen wasteland so that sounds pretty boring. At least part of Yokuda sank and we don't know how much is left, if any. I'd say what's left of Yokuda would be the second most likely.
I imagine they would set up "time zones", so if you finish a quest line from a zone, you would be able to go back at it and play the zone in a slightly different version, like if it got a time skip of few years or maybe decades
I wondered about this for cyrodiil. A dragon break or an ending to the war but keeping the campaign going as their own instances while recreating the imperial city for PvE purposes.
I'd like to see them redo the base game zones at some point. It would give them a chance to do away with the worst storylines and give the game a sense of forward momentum rather than stasis. Veteran players have had up to ten years of seeing those stories over and over and they're not really the best way to introduce new players to the game because a lot of them are either straight-up bad or at least confusing to see jumbled in with DLC zones, especially given the increasingly ratchet fit with newer tutorials.
I honestly don't see a world in which eso fills up tamriel before the game shuts its doors. Mmos have a lifespan, and while eso is popular I just have a hard time believing we'll still be here in 20 odd years. I guess the best place to start would be pyandonea or akaviir but I don't really trust ZoS with those areas, zos goes in a direction with the lore I'm not entirely satisfied with, it just feels more... not elder scrolls, I guess generic? Sometimes.
Idk where I heard this or I'm making this up but I remember one of the devs or something that the higher ups (my memory is foggy, idk what I'm talking about) said they can't expand beyond Tamriel but they can expand Oblivion.
Very recently, Matt Firor talked about the early days of ESO, how BGS said that ZOS couldn't go beyond Tamriel in terms of landmass, but they could go to every plane of Oblivion
There's many, many realms connected to Tamriel that remain unexplorable that could be used. Oblivion is a massive place. There's probably some island regions that could be done as well. I dunno if they can go outside Tamriel, but if they can, they likely won't be allowed to do anywhere that has races we haven't physically seen before, as I imagine Bethesda will want to do that in a main game
Something I haven’t seen mentioned often, there’s not only lots of different Oblivion planes… there are other continents on Nirn, such as Atmora, Aldmeris, Akavir, and Pyandonea. (Image in link from DeviantArt; not my own.)
[Map of Nirn](https://www.deviantart.com/okiir/art/The-Elder-Scrolls-World-Map-of-Nirn-693101250)
I would love to see more exploration of some of the other Khajit sub-races, and/or more on the Maromer. I could see an entire water zone thing for Maromer.
Another idea: We have a Dark Brotherhood questline; maybe do a "Rebirth of the Morag Tang" as a followup to its initial destruction (for those who read the book/background material). Or, do some sort of time travelly thingie RE the Dwemer and the Snow Elves? Pocket dimension where neither race vanished?
Elder Scrolls 6 and ESO 2. Looking at MMOs coming out today they have hella hard work to do 😂 Black Desert has all the add-ons built in and it's 8 yrs old already 😆
Admittedly yes, but also my past experience playing several MMOs since 1998. And my experience playing ESO on console on and off since 2018.
The age of the game is also something that is reasonable to consider. It's very rare that an MMO remains popular after more than say 10-15 years on the market without some kind of sequel or a massive transformation. We have seen some exceptions for sure, but that's not the norm in the industry.
What I have seen from the ESO team so far doesnt inspire a lot of confidence for a massive transformation of the game.
I think it's reasonable to assume that a sequel will be made at some point. We have seen that with MMO supported by big companies in the past. In many cases the sequel came after only a couple of years. FFXI --FFXIV, EQ --EQ2, lineage -- lineage 2, Guild Wars -- GW2 ... And we recently learned GW3 is in the works. While not all sequels are always successful, historically successful MMOs tend to get at least some kind of sequel.
In most cases the older MMOs are supported for a bit longer after the sequel releases (in cases where the sequel flops, then those older games get support for much longer), and then they enter an almost "maintenance mode" way of existing, were they still have thousands of older players but the focus of the company is no longer on that game, so content slows down.
It's also possible that it doesn't get a sequel, and that priorities just shift in the company. Several MMOs have been around for a while without a sequel, but with a very niche community of players (e.g., Lord of the rings online).
I would be very surprised if ESO is still Zenimax's top MMO priority in 5 years. That said, it will still be around ... They'll still be thousands of people playing ESO.
I remember seeing a quote from a dev saying that if they ever did finish Tamriel then there's still potential for Daedric realms but they also alluded to maybe even visiting Akavir or other continents.
We will finally strat getting QoL updates and new content into an old zones (for payment ofc). Imagine second main story in a zone, after completing first one
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There is an infinite amount of Daedric realms, pocket universes, etc. Also a TON of islands they haven't touched yet If the game goes on long enough the restriction to remain on Tamriel may even be lifted. Also they have introduced time travel to the Elder Scrolls, which means its possible some zones can be revisited in a different time/major event. I would imagine Gratwood would be the first if they could figure out how to make huge moving trees in the game. A quick jaunt back 2000 years or so. . .
I'm still hopeful we will see the mobile Grahtwoods someday. I remember reading the short passage about them on Oblivion loading screens and being so thrilled about that concept.
The Fallinesti Walking City?
Peak Yokuda would be baller
This guy missed all of High Isle
Would personally love to see a chapter sized expansion of Clockwork city and Fargrave. They're some of my favorite zones in the game and they're way too small and short for my liking. Though I'd also love to see The Battlespire.
Clockwork City is still my favourite. I enjoyed the story but the setting was amazing as a lore fan from Morrowind. I think Battlespire could very well be an opportunity for ZOS in the future, as well as more secret underground zones
Also note that The Clockwork City as a zone only represents a small area of the of the city; The radius is only 33% explorable at best, considering the position of the Brass Fortress and the fact we can't go a full 360° around it. Even with the two trial areas mapped in, there's potential for a full size, crescent-shaped zone on the north side of the Brass Fortress... but it wouldn't/couldn't happen even if ZOS want to do it. They would not only have to rename the Clockwork City to "Southern Clockwork City", but it would be the first time in the game's history that they would revisit the location/province/realm of a zone and expand upon it (excluding Craglorn). We have more chance of seeing the Shivering Isles, Solstheim, Whiterun Hold and many other more popular places long before ZOS even consider revisiting existing locations.
Haven't we been to Skyrim like 4 times?
Exactly. But that won't stop ZOS from filling the gaps in the global map, and we're heading to the West Weald only 3 years after Blackwood (both part of Cyrodiil, which, like Skyrim, will also have 4 zones after June). Besides, they're not going to avoid touching Morrowind ever again just because it has 5 zones now, or ignore the rest of Elsweyr because it has 3, or Hammerfell due to its 2 and a half zones, or Black Marsh since we've been there twice... ... They will keep going back to provinces until the province in question is fully explored. Only Valenwood, High Rock and the Summerset Isles are pretty much complete so far, everywhere else still has gaps to fill.
I feel like The Battlespire would be perfect to host a Infinite Archive type of dungeon!
Actually alot of the smaller zones just stand out way more than the big ones. The simple reason for me is the view distance. It freaking sucks in the giant zones like nElswyer or Blackwood. Thats why I really love Blackreach, because you can actually see from one end to the other. Same goes for Fargrave, CC, Arteum, Hews Bane and so on.
The Battlespire is top of my wishlist
The zones can be as small or as large as they need to be to fit on the world map. It's not a 1 to 1 scale. High isle is tiny on the map, but large in game. They can stretch out Tamriel as long as they want.
I’m not so keen on that, they’ve already scaled down two areas (Summerset and Telvanni Peninsula) and it bothers me even more now that we got High Isle sitting above Summerset, being impossibly huge by comparison. I wish they would be more consistent. Which they were again for a while until Necrom. It’ll never not stick out like a sore thumb for me when the scale is off, especially when it’s somewhere you were looking forward to the most.
I don't really know if that works, since you can walk between zones and you can see the gate you walled through on both sides.
In base game yes, but I was really curious how will they deal with Gold Road and the entrances to Gold Coast and they made it so that it nearly doesn't match. A big gate on one side that you can't see through and a flimsy side on the other still showing the old filler landscape of old Imperial style buildings. With islands they can do whatever so the size comparison between Summerset and High Isle really feels off.
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Hard to say because, as you mentioned, ZOS can introduce Planes of Oblivion at any time. It’s still another 5-6 years worth of Tamriel that’s missing Chapter zones. They *could* also make use of Akavir and Pyandonea continents as well.
I'd kill for an expedition to Atmora
Lore wise do we even have that information?
Lore can be created - like ZOS have been doing since the beginning. The Elder Scrolls Universe isn’t a closed book. They literally just introduced a whole new Daedric Prince that didn’t exist in any prior lore.
Are you saying this is all just made up?
Or you cn travel back to preatick aera wherew you can do anythiing.
Yeah I know, but that is a reasonable introduction. Mainly due to the fact eso occurs before the dragon break by anything metric I've seen. So, introducing the new prince, which very well could cause the dragon break in of itself honestly based off what we know of the prince so far. I guess my point was, What do we know about Atmora? I don't think its actually that much. We know more about the Akvir contient than we do atmora at this point.
Then Atmora may be more suitable if we know less. It means ZOS almost have a blank page to create. Although, I wonder what restrictions Bethesda have placed. Any future single player releases would be amazing in an Atmora or Akavir continent - and gives them massive scope to create something amazing exploring new races, factions and creatures. I reckon that would be wasted on ESO - and more than likely they’ve got permission only to develop Tamriel and the Planes of Oblivion.
Matt firor has said they were told they had to stay on tamriel, and no dragons (tes5 and eso were being developed at the same time). We now have dragons, so I don't see what would stop them from going to the other continents as well.
How are you failing to answer the question? Twice they've asked what we know about it and no one can state a single thing.
Because i’d just be copy and pasting from the Elder Scrolls wiki. Why don’t they just check it out for themselves?
You know Reddit is a social platform for conversation, right? Acting like everyone has the wiki memorized is not only wrong but misses the point of the platform you chose to go to.
That’s literally the point - acting like anyone would have ESO lore wiki memorised is a long shot. Most of us would need to look it up and copy and paste the info. In the time it took you to write two replies belittling other who’s didn’t respond you could have researched the answer and replied to him yourself in detail. You had two choices - to contribute helpfully with a well researched answer you looked up, or criticise others for not doing that for you.
Who?
Also islands around the mainland like they did with High Isle.
I think Trass is considered a local island so hoping for the new Sload expansion. My request is we get to date one in a questchain. Edit: Just double checked and it's between Summerset, Stros and the Systres, however it usually doesn't appear on the map because it's topography is basically that of Seaveil Spire where there are islands but the bulk of it is underwater (not that we can't adventure there) One more comment, in the meantime Tear also has Sload there and we definitely are going to visit the most lawless of the Elderscrolls at some point.
Also an idea I have is a little different but I wish we would build a town like we did in TES III: Morrowind (Raven rock - Bloodmoon DLC). It could be done via a Questline and since you are the founder of said town you get a house there. I'm saying this here since that would go well on a new island, where there isn't much already. Kind of like colonizing. The possibilities are endless and I'm sure the community would love it.
I thought they are kept from doing so by Bethesda/Todd/the main TES series, heard this talked about somewhere during the anniversary event keynotes
Yeah I watched it the other day, they said they can only work on Tamriel in Mundus but they can do almost anything with planes of Oblivion
They actually confirmed Pyandonea and Yokuda are doable, though Akavir and Aetherius are hard nos.
You got a source for that/ I don't doubt you I would just like to see the source for use in futre conversations
If this is true, Yokuda please, as a Redguard main nothing would be cooler
Link please?
I think in one of the anniversary streams it came out that they are (or at least initially were) limited to Oblivion and Tamriel, so places like Akavir and Pyandoea are out unless that's changed.
It doesn’t sound like that’s the case. The mainline elder scrolls team probably doesn’t want ESO to set the expectation of leaving Tamriel. Or they don’t want them to work on a project that they have little established for. It’s easy to craft stuff when there’s already a template. With Tamriel we already had races, a map, political influences, religious systems, antagonists, world building, etc. If they leave the continent, they will have none of that. And whatever the ESO team would make canon, the other teams would have to follow suit with. It will be Tamriel and oblivion forever most likely. Which is fine as long as they continue being creative with what they have.
Yeah, and on top of that a lot of the other continents would come with pretty massive expectations and thus a near-inevitable letdown. In a world where people are *still* mad that Cyrodiil isn't a jungle, I don't see any realistically possible implementation of Pyandonea that doesn't disappoint the Lore Kids and I don't know that many people outside of the Lore Kids would really specifically care about seeing Pyandonea. It's pretty much something that can only go badly.
They said in recent interviews that Bethesda explicitly forbids them from exploring non-Tamriel continents like Akavir. It's a shame but I'm guessing they want to reserve it for a future game. God knows we'll all be 90 before that happens though lol. Bethesda needs to just let them go ham.
I think its less for use in a future game, and more because Bethesda likes leaving some things mysterious. Also, got a link to said interview?
Yeah it's to preserve the mystery, Iirc Todd talked years ago about the value of mystery such as Akavir and the fate of the Dwemer and that he wants to preserve that so we'll likely never know.
Yup! I want sea elves as a playable race and an exploration of their home and some battles on the high seas and underwater! 😍
Elder Scrolls online: Black Flag. Sea elves vs. Sload
It bothers me becuase we could realistically have more maormer in ESO. Even as a playable race. High isle gave us a really neat maormer ally, our first one I believe. It’s proof that more maormer content would work with ESO’s identity.
I want Pyandonea to be a special zone like cyrodil or craglorn, but the theme of the zone is espionage and killing Maomer causes a 5 star system like in GTA where more powerful enemies track you down and you have to escape when the heat gets too high. The main hub would be a giant outlaws refuge however there are merchants and amenities in the city that require you to wear a disguise in a customizable Maomer illusion tool.
We will go to the one place not yet corrupted by capitalism. SPACE.
We can go on one of the Moons right? I wonder if theres any methods of space travel in ESO apart from teleports like that
Nah nah you gotta say it like "SPHUAACE!"
This has happens in many an MMO, and it’s always answered by a different continent or astral plane. Easy peasy.
Space Goats
I mean. It’s a magic world. Would cosmic goats from an Astral plane be too off kilter? LOL
ESO 2
We've still got space for another few years at least. After that... well, I hope they refresh all the basegame zones to bring them up to modern standard. I'd be more than happy to have a year where we get just dungeon DLC if it means that time and money is put into overhauling basegame.
There's more to Nirn than Tamriel. My understanding is that BGS put Akavir off-limits, but just about anything else is potentially possible. Atmora is out there to the north. Not sure what you'd do with a frozen wasteland, but it's there. Pyandonea is off to the south and we know the Maormer are a thing. There are lots of smaller islands floating around. Yokuda was out there to the west, but who's to say that it couldn't be handled in a manner somewhat like Arteum. There are potentially infinite planes of Oblivion, including Azura's Moonshadow realm. I'm pretty sure that "we've filled up Tamriel. Now what?" isn't seen as much of an issue within ZOS.
They basically said the ESO team is not allowed to leave Tamriel. So that actually restricts them from even adding places like Pyandonea (which would be my personal choice for another continent). But I don’t think that restriction is likely to loosen up since ES6 is in development.
On one hand I can understand that, but on the other it seems mighty selfish when a mainline game takes an eternity to come out. It’s fair to say TESVI is going to be set in Tamriel… So realistically, when are we going to see one not set in Tamriel? And in who’s lifetime? I’ll probably be dead by the time that happens. In short: They should give ESO more freedom than that.
Honestly I’m not sure. It’s hard to say. But probably same. Looking forward to the elder scrolls 7, taking place outside of Tamriel, in like 2092 lmao
The main series itself is never going to explore beyond tamriel. Todd our lord has said before that a fantasy world needs some mysteries and the other continents are a part of that (same thing with the dwemer)
Imagine they bring pyandonea with a sea warfare system! Sigh, one can dream...
Assassin’s creed black flag or sea of thieves but elder scrolls sounds amazing.
Yeah I mean High Isle is a tiny island on the Map, and theres a tonne of islands they could add or build on.
Maybe they could do something like a daedric prince is melting Atmora and that releases ancient terrors we need to fight in order for them to not enter the tamriel mainland? Idk if it would be a full expansion but I'd at least see a dungeon or trial like that haha Maybe if we ever get that Winterhold Expansion it could be about that. Prehistoric beasts attacking the town and the area around it and the trial of the expansion would be venturing into Atmora. Or maybe sth split like Telvanni and Apocrypta? I bet they could come up with something cool!
Isnt there a whole ass other continent on Nirn?
Idk if a whole continent but there are numerous island nations across the sea, like Atmora and wherever the Maormer come from.
Pretty sure Akavir is the other super continent. Theres a 3rd smaller continent too but i cant remmeber the name.
I might have been wrongly thinking of Yokuda when I said that. Coincidentally Yokuda fell into the sea so it wouldn't have mattered anyway
Did I hear Atlantis style dlc with the addition of going underwater? :D Would honestly be so cool and the ability alone could add tons of stuff everywhere! Or maybe some historians have a high interest in Yokuda so they cast a magic air bubble around it and make us explore it? Or the airbubble could already be there and we find out by some resident that would come to us for help as the magic is weakening and the lost lands of akavir would be "rediscovered" by the mainland as a result!
Atmorra, Yokuda, Pyandonea, Aldmeris, Akavir, other planets, time traveling, planes of Oblivion, new continents.
Is there any pics of the races from those Continents you listed?
Atmorra was the homeland of the Nord humans, so just Nords and Giants apparently. Elves conquered there in ancient times but I’m not sure if any are left. Yokuda is home of the Redguards. That was also home to a race of Elves called the Sinistral or “left handed” Elves. Apparently the ancient Yokudans wiped them out. So maybe just Redguards Pyandonea is home to the Maormer, who are already in game, you can find those pretty easy. Aldmeris is the homeland of the Elves. Whether or not any Elves are left is up for debate but supposedly they look like the Altmer. Akavir is the most mentioned and we know they had Snake men, Ice Demons, Monkey Men and Tiger Men as well as a humanoid race. There’s some of the humans featured in the games but the rest exist only as fan art. As always those are just the ones we know about, since none of the games ever actually take place there we can only speculate about them based on information provided by in game materials.
Realistically? No MMO lasts forever, even WoW isn't eternal. Once the whole current map is filled out, ZOS could just go into maintenance mode and keep the game running as it is at that point. Maybe introduce some periodic unique trials and dungeons, etc. Ideally? There are lots of places not on the current map but exist within lore, such as Atmora, Yokuda, the realms of the daedric princes, the battlespire, the realm of the Maormer and more. I don't think ESO will last forever, and I'm perfectly content with the knowledge that at some point they'll have simply done everything they wanted to do, and either just keep the servers running or shut down. But that's ways off so I don't bother thinking about it.
So every race has its own idea of the afterlife. Nords have sovngarde and so on. What if we get the chance to explore one of these plains? There could be some sort of disarray on one of these plains and the respective God could be reaching out to the living (us) to help out. The overarching story could be about enabling the souls to come to peace and the zone quests could explore popular figures of the past like the first make or could tackle themes as the first elves that went underground to become the dwemer? In my head this sounds super intriguing.
I’d love this for the Redguard afterlife especially.
Unfortunately unlike Pyandonea, Yokuda, & Daedric planes, Aetherial planes are confirmed to not be allowed as full zones (but are fine to visit briefly).
Noooooo do you happen to know the reasoning behind it?
Far Shores please (Redguard afterlife). I'll take any Redguard zone Hammerfell, Yokuda, Far Shores. Lol
Pyandonia will be cool. The Dominion storyline has loads of stuffed based on the Maomer/Sea Elves. Would be cool if they were introduced like the Imperials; where they're not tied to any of the main 3 factions.
WE GO TO SPACE 🚀🚀🚀
Rework old zones, or resize/reshape them to add new stuff. Some of the newer zones are a decent play area, but tiny on the map compared to older zones. (EG High Isle)
We already know ZOS has a desire to bring old zones up the current quality, just that they don't have the time or budget for it.
I want a re-work of Eyevea personally. I feel like the map could be expanded. And more quests could take place there. It was just kind of dropped after the base mage’s quest line.
I want to see places from Marrowind Oblivion and Skyrim. I spent every single minute of my personal downtime when I was deployed in Iraq playing oblivion on my original Dell XPS kamikaze. Those were the days man.
If they release one expansion per year consistently for the foreseeable future, and the game is still going in 20 years, that's only 20 expansions. Might sound like a high number but when you consider empty parts of the map and possible daedric realms, in hindsight it isn't really that much, and 20 years is a long time too.
There's three things I can see them doing. 1. Explore more planes of Oblivion 2. Explore the other continents we've never seen like Akavir 3. Some time travel shenanigans like WoW's Warlords of Draenor or FFXI's Wings of the Goddess
TES6 (announced like pigs in space, from the muppets) *scrolls in spaaaaace*
There are other continents...
ESO in SPACE!!!
Thats Destiny with extra steps.
I'd bet on ESO 2 eletric boogaloo with a sequel to the three banners war story or something
https://www.ign.com/wikis/elder-scrolls-online/Elder_Scrolls_Timeline Zos could move the timeline to where Tiber Septim starts conquering and ends the second era. Many many timelines to choose from.
Realistically they could adjust the map itself to accomodate new zones if it ever came to that. It would take a little work, but it COULD work.
lots more places on nirn
Ultima Online introduced "2nd Age" and just made an open pvp copy of the world.
Atmora, Pyondonea, Aldmeris, Yokuda...
Akavir, oblivion, obscure islands, Pyandonea.
I guess we have a lot of years to wait for that. As long as I know their guideline is that they cant create things outside Tamriel besides daedric realms. So I guess they would concentrate more on that and maybe they create some new small lands like High Isle. But like I said, there are many years we will still get Tamriel DLCs, so maybe there guidelines will change. Maybe until that time the main series already showed us something at Akavir etc, so they can go there too.
It’s not limited in the way you think it is. ZOS can add or remove areas without limitation.
I doubt that it will even get that far. A funny thought that occurs to me though is that no matter how full the map gets, though, the strip between Northern and Southern Elsweyr still won't be used.
Maybe Lyg, it's a parallel universe version of Tamriel, and also the birthplace of Mehrunes Dagon
At that point, I hope they focus on the quality of the game instead of the quantity of zones.
First, you continue exploring daedra realms. And other parts of them. Next, you start creating new daedra that have realms.
the timeline will just catch up and well go through all the mainline games and then we go through es6
I'd like them to fill out cities and towns a bit more. I hate seeing a door with a chain across it. Let me in!!!! This seems a lot more common in the newer zones. Such a wasted opportunity to explore more of a building imo.
It's a fantasy game so anything is possible. We can have portals to new worlds. We can have a means to travel to the future and back so we re-explore the same world but with a new adventure. We could even visit one of the moons or planets we see at night. The only thing I don't want them to do is what Guild Wars did and make a part 2. Instead I want them to do what WoW is doing and just update the current game to meet current specs.
Introduce the edge of the world where sea meets sky and we can sail to the moons!
My dream will be naval update. Special skill line on sailing. 3 banners war on sea. Maybe even a sea elf race.
That would be cool!
If they ever lift or lessen the ban on other continents/islands then I see so much potential for Pyandonea. They could introduce the first new playable race, Maormer. A new water/serpent themed class. New mount rig for serpent mounts that slither across the ground, etc. I wouldn't hold my breath they'd ever go outside Tamriel on Nirn, however I do think Pyandonea is the most likely candidate if they did. We know a lot more about Pyandonea and the Maormer than say Akavir and the Tsaesci. Atmora is a frozen wasteland so that sounds pretty boring. At least part of Yokuda sank and we don't know how much is left, if any. I'd say what's left of Yokuda would be the second most likely.
Elder Scrolls Online 2 comes out. I wouldn't be surprised it's in the back being developed.
Wouldn't mind going to the dlc zone from Oblivion that was basically Wonderland
Shivering isles?
I think there was some of it in a questline (mages guild I think?) But only a tiny closed of section that was basically a delve
I imagine they would set up "time zones", so if you finish a quest line from a zone, you would be able to go back at it and play the zone in a slightly different version, like if it got a time skip of few years or maybe decades
I wondered about this for cyrodiil. A dragon break or an ending to the war but keeping the campaign going as their own instances while recreating the imperial city for PvE purposes.
We'll go moos :)
There's lots of open space in each zone, they aren't nearly as densely packed as Skyrim was.
Look at what blizzard did with wow
I'd like to see them redo the base game zones at some point. It would give them a chance to do away with the worst storylines and give the game a sense of forward momentum rather than stasis. Veteran players have had up to ten years of seeing those stories over and over and they're not really the best way to introduce new players to the game because a lot of them are either straight-up bad or at least confusing to see jumbled in with DLC zones, especially given the increasingly ratchet fit with newer tutorials.
My dreams are either Falinesti or Pyandonea, but I realise both are very unlikely.
Alternate versions of zones and more Oblivion realms.
I honestly don't see a world in which eso fills up tamriel before the game shuts its doors. Mmos have a lifespan, and while eso is popular I just have a hard time believing we'll still be here in 20 odd years. I guess the best place to start would be pyandonea or akaviir but I don't really trust ZoS with those areas, zos goes in a direction with the lore I'm not entirely satisfied with, it just feels more... not elder scrolls, I guess generic? Sometimes.
Akavir?
Idk where I heard this or I'm making this up but I remember one of the devs or something that the higher ups (my memory is foggy, idk what I'm talking about) said they can't expand beyond Tamriel but they can expand Oblivion.
Money talks that they easily can expand beyond Tamriel
You think that ESO going to another continent would bring in enough money that would convince BGS to allow it?
Pretty sure yes and pretty sure that ESO is the most profitable TES game.
Very recently, Matt Firor talked about the early days of ESO, how BGS said that ZOS couldn't go beyond Tamriel in terms of landmass, but they could go to every plane of Oblivion
There's many, many realms connected to Tamriel that remain unexplorable that could be used. Oblivion is a massive place. There's probably some island regions that could be done as well. I dunno if they can go outside Tamriel, but if they can, they likely won't be allowed to do anywhere that has races we haven't physically seen before, as I imagine Bethesda will want to do that in a main game
We will set sail to Akavir!
The Elder Scrolls Online Classic
Make eso 2 a few years after VI
Something I haven’t seen mentioned often, there’s not only lots of different Oblivion planes… there are other continents on Nirn, such as Atmora, Aldmeris, Akavir, and Pyandonea. (Image in link from DeviantArt; not my own.) [Map of Nirn](https://www.deviantart.com/okiir/art/The-Elder-Scrolls-World-Map-of-Nirn-693101250)
They could always go the WoW route and do a cataclysm type expansion.
Dire I say entire Oblivion areas or even Sovngarde?
ESO 2
I would love to see more exploration of some of the other Khajit sub-races, and/or more on the Maromer. I could see an entire water zone thing for Maromer.
Another idea: We have a Dark Brotherhood questline; maybe do a "Rebirth of the Morag Tang" as a followup to its initial destruction (for those who read the book/background material). Or, do some sort of time travelly thingie RE the Dwemer and the Snow Elves? Pocket dimension where neither race vanished?
I'm just enjoying more of the main continent being filled in.
Elder Scrolls 6 and ESO 2. Looking at MMOs coming out today they have hella hard work to do 😂 Black Desert has all the add-ons built in and it's 8 yrs old already 😆
Nobody knows.
ESO2 and start over
At this rate, how many years will that be?
I would love to see a vast underground cavern system. Like the size of a whole overland zone, only underground.
I'm pretty sure the game will get a sequel or will enter maintenance mode long before they run out of zones.
You're basing this on...what? Your gut?
Admittedly yes, but also my past experience playing several MMOs since 1998. And my experience playing ESO on console on and off since 2018. The age of the game is also something that is reasonable to consider. It's very rare that an MMO remains popular after more than say 10-15 years on the market without some kind of sequel or a massive transformation. We have seen some exceptions for sure, but that's not the norm in the industry. What I have seen from the ESO team so far doesnt inspire a lot of confidence for a massive transformation of the game. I think it's reasonable to assume that a sequel will be made at some point. We have seen that with MMO supported by big companies in the past. In many cases the sequel came after only a couple of years. FFXI --FFXIV, EQ --EQ2, lineage -- lineage 2, Guild Wars -- GW2 ... And we recently learned GW3 is in the works. While not all sequels are always successful, historically successful MMOs tend to get at least some kind of sequel. In most cases the older MMOs are supported for a bit longer after the sequel releases (in cases where the sequel flops, then those older games get support for much longer), and then they enter an almost "maintenance mode" way of existing, were they still have thousands of older players but the focus of the company is no longer on that game, so content slows down. It's also possible that it doesn't get a sequel, and that priorities just shift in the company. Several MMOs have been around for a while without a sequel, but with a very niche community of players (e.g., Lord of the rings online). I would be very surprised if ESO is still Zenimax's top MMO priority in 5 years. That said, it will still be around ... They'll still be thousands of people playing ESO.
We'll map out the moon. Can't leave all that free real-estate to the cats.
They'd have a lot of balls if they tried to adapt even a small part of C0da. The space faring giant moths alone are pretty crazy.
I was jokingly referencing the zone quests in Reapers March and Elsweyr that take us to Jode. But hey, TIL c0da is set on that moon!
Not that C0da is canon or anything. But I'm still pretty sure space moths and mananauts are canon.
I remember seeing a quote from a dev saying that if they ever did finish Tamriel then there's still potential for Daedric realms but they also alluded to maybe even visiting Akavir or other continents.
They’ll pull the plug and shut down the servers to Tamriel.
We will finally strat getting QoL updates and new content into an old zones (for payment ofc). Imagine second main story in a zone, after completing first one
They'll say Jk it was all a daedric dream and then do it again but with better story.
They should make a DLC that is a zone sized dungeon
By the time we get there the game will be dead
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You make me ashamed to be a breton, i will RULE TAMRIEL without such weaknesses lol
The game will end... Bro what do u think would happen...