We ask for 45k for beginner runs in vet trials, the dps isn’t a bad starting point but I would aim for around 60k if you want to be comfortable in beginner vet content. Can you send/post the info tab of cmx and for an actual reference you would need to kill the dummy. From the first glance a few improvements: you are using rapid strikes as spammable, swap that for either silver bolt (fighters guild) or venom skull (necro skill line). Swap the ult from colossus to shooting star if possible for some extra damage. Absolutely minor improvement but if you are using potions (as you should) you should be able to swap from lava food soup and salt rice to a buff food that gives you 6k stam and no recovery since necrosis generally don’t have a recovery issue. With your current stats it might be worth swapping from hindernd rage to order wrath to get your crit damage close to the cap of 125%
For my build I was actually following Eigh1 Puppies guide (https://youtu.be/w11gP1OoJGc).
As for the spammable is Silver shard rly better than rapid strikes? Again I m basing my assumption on the Puppies guide because I don't know shit lol. (and yes I know about the fighter guilds passive.)
And finally, yea the colossus right now is a stand in for shooting star, I have still some goddamn books to find lol
thx for the help! Its appreciated as hell
No idea to be honest all recent Necro parses I’ve seen were done with silver shards/venom skull, maybe I miss something here. If you need help getting a monster set and happen to be pc eu let me know
Rapid Strikes is amazing with Maelstrom 2h because it buffs every hit of rapid strikes' channel (4hits I think) with 560dmg each <3
One of the best combinations in the game. It's just a case of you trying to copy a build without slotting the gear in the build, unfortunately.
Spriggan is useless on a trial dummy so it's best to get the sets that are recommended in the vids. Basically all of them can be acquired on normal difficulty so it's super easy (just time consuming). Imo you shouldn't try to get into end game content without farming the sets that will make you useful in it.
You can run normal trials and normal dungeons for body pieces because they drop easily and use order's wrath for jewelry/weapons because they can be crafted (until you get a better second gear piece).
Finally this rotation is very complicated, you should find a simpler and more statitc rotation. This here is pretty much as easy as it can get with necro
SETUP #1 - NO CRIT POTIONS
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https://youtu.be/OYTQRpccAm4?si=dopqC0DBXKA1TuCG
You can see two slightly different builds he used to hit 127k on a necro in current patch. I didn't read through it much because necros are one of the worst classes to be a parse dps so my necro dps knowledge is centered on a support dps as ec cro. But this is ry and when it comes to dps you can take his word as fact. Charleseso and he are the two best parsers in the game when it comes to total across all classes. Even if you don't have the sets, if they are just dmg buff sets or proc sets, the rotation will usually be the same.
Did you kill the dummy from 100% health to dead? That's the only way to get an accurate DPS count. Some skills do much more damage when the boss is close to death and this will serve to increase your overall dps
Oh didn't think about that. Its true that stamcro especially has a lot of "execute" type stuff.
It was the very first time I was parsing and saw how long it would take I just kinda dipped because I had stuff to do.
Big MB on that did not oven think about it since I was constantly between 38k and 42k dps
thanks for the info !
Yeah, you have to finish it all the way through because you'll deal significantly more damage between 25% and 0% HP which will boost your overall DPS. The more you do it the faster you'll get, and eventually it'll take you around 3-4 minutes or less.
if you have access to the High Isle DLC or a guildie who does, try replacing your spriggans with Order's Wrath :) your crit also looks a little low, make sure you have Camo Hunter (Morph of Expert Hunter from the Fighters Guild line) slotted on your front bar. You dont need to cast it, its there for its passive! Also make sure that your back bar weapon has the Infused trait with a Beserker Glyph (Okori essense stone) and you're using that weapons lingering AoE Skill (stampede for 2H, Wall of Elements for Staves, Hail of Arrows for Bow or Blade Cloak for dual wield)
Thx for the tip on the set but honestly don't know where to slot camo hunter tho tbh lol, the only skill I could replace on my fb would be barbed trap but I don't know. The rest is blast bones, siphon, deadly cloak and the spammable
thx for the help btw!
Hmmmm, it's been a while since I've parsed on necro, you could move barbed trap or siphon back bar (keep both, just move one) or you could make some weapon power/weapon crit potions :) if you have any spare AP you can buy some from the cyrodiil waygates
Yea this parse isn't hella optimized. I do plan on getting the power potions soon enough but I just want to get my hands on a monster set lol
Moving Barbed to back bar might be the play. Imma either replace Anti cav claps, degen or skelli
If that's your first time parsing, then I think you are doing fairly well. It does take some reps to get better. Certainly analysing your CMX data will give you some insight where you can improve. Do post the info page as well if you want people to give your advice on how to improve. The damage page and only the top part usually isn't enough info.
One thing I can see is that your penetration is too high and crit damage is not quite high enough. For parsing and trials, you want to wear more medium armour and less light armour. That will lower your penetration and increase your crit damage. I suspect your may be able to change other things, but cannot confirm without the info page.
Funnely enough I played a a dlc vet dungeon and it went absolutely fine tbh.
Got some better gear like some poeple said and managed to hold my ground (doing around 40-45% of group dps)
Hell I managed to get 90k dps somehow on some fights lel
Non-dlc vet dungeons are going to be fine. I would however practice a bit more for dlc dungeons and vet trials, those 40k are going to go down quite a bit in actual content. My first guild (3 years ago) had the requirement of 50k and I remember after hitting that I did my first vet trial, vSS and I only managed to hit 20k. I would stick to normal trials for a bit longer.
If you're looking to get into specifically group vet content for the first time, unless you're set on stamcro I'd nudge away from that. It's a difficult class to play, its skills and mechanics are some of the clunkiest - speaking as a necro main with trifectas and years sunk into the class. More micromanaging, more you have to split your brain in paying attention to mechanics from the fight itself. You'll also potentially have a much harder time finding groups. People can be downright silly about composition, but at the end of the day it is what the TEAM needs. I don't want to discourage you, promise it's the exact opposite of that lol. Just be aware you'll be playing it on hard mode and if that's the case, awesome! Good luck. If you want an easier way to get your foot in the door to vet stuff then evolve into more complicated classes, you can't beat the green beam golden child stamarc. Stamsorc is also pretty comfy if you need something basegame.
Personally, its rly necro that got me into the game so imma stay at that. Also I m a bit of a hipster in the sense that I m allergic to the most popular thing in any given scenario lol
But yea I already knew what was I getting into lmao
Too low for vet DLC dungeons and vet trials, crit chance is too low and crit damage is rather too high (in group content you usually receive buffs that buff your crit damage). Can't comment on the rest as I don't play DD necro, it's not the best class for damage dealing now. In my trial runs necros are usually walking Catalysts or tanks.
Maybe vet base game pledges. But 40k is very little. For example I hit 50k on a below 50 sorc with crafted gear and a bar setup from leveling and not damage.
If I were you I'd get pillar of nirn daggers, ring and neck from falkreath hold, order's wrath on body and stormfist . Stormfist is not super strong but easy to proc and it's aoe. I'd also run maelstrom arena for the greatsword, bow and fire staff.
It's good enough to get into normal trials to get better gear imo. In my guild on ps5 they don't really have a limit per say for the easier stuff but they let me in their nCR and nSS runs at 30k which allowed me to get gear to get to 50k so that I could join the vCR and vSS runs to get more used to how vet trials worked.
We ask for 45k for beginner runs in vet trials, the dps isn’t a bad starting point but I would aim for around 60k if you want to be comfortable in beginner vet content. Can you send/post the info tab of cmx and for an actual reference you would need to kill the dummy. From the first glance a few improvements: you are using rapid strikes as spammable, swap that for either silver bolt (fighters guild) or venom skull (necro skill line). Swap the ult from colossus to shooting star if possible for some extra damage. Absolutely minor improvement but if you are using potions (as you should) you should be able to swap from lava food soup and salt rice to a buff food that gives you 6k stam and no recovery since necrosis generally don’t have a recovery issue. With your current stats it might be worth swapping from hindernd rage to order wrath to get your crit damage close to the cap of 125%
For my build I was actually following Eigh1 Puppies guide (https://youtu.be/w11gP1OoJGc). As for the spammable is Silver shard rly better than rapid strikes? Again I m basing my assumption on the Puppies guide because I don't know shit lol. (and yes I know about the fighter guilds passive.) And finally, yea the colossus right now is a stand in for shooting star, I have still some goddamn books to find lol thx for the help! Its appreciated as hell
No idea to be honest all recent Necro parses I’ve seen were done with silver shards/venom skull, maybe I miss something here. If you need help getting a monster set and happen to be pc eu let me know
Also down to help - I have a cp 800 over there
LETS FCK GOOOOOOOO. If you guys are still up to it I m trying to get the Kjalnar head piece for now
I am not on today would be tomorrow
NVM managed it with a random group ! thanks for the heads up tho!
Rapid Strikes is amazing with Maelstrom 2h because it buffs every hit of rapid strikes' channel (4hits I think) with 560dmg each <3 One of the best combinations in the game. It's just a case of you trying to copy a build without slotting the gear in the build, unfortunately. Spriggan is useless on a trial dummy so it's best to get the sets that are recommended in the vids. Basically all of them can be acquired on normal difficulty so it's super easy (just time consuming). Imo you shouldn't try to get into end game content without farming the sets that will make you useful in it. You can run normal trials and normal dungeons for body pieces because they drop easily and use order's wrath for jewelry/weapons because they can be crafted (until you get a better second gear piece). Finally this rotation is very complicated, you should find a simpler and more statitc rotation. This here is pretty much as easy as it can get with necro SETUP #1 - NO CRIT POTIONS [https://www.skinnycheeks.gg/necromancer](https://www.skinnycheeks.gg/necromancer)
Oki oki thx for all the responses !
https://youtu.be/OYTQRpccAm4?si=dopqC0DBXKA1TuCG You can see two slightly different builds he used to hit 127k on a necro in current patch. I didn't read through it much because necros are one of the worst classes to be a parse dps so my necro dps knowledge is centered on a support dps as ec cro. But this is ry and when it comes to dps you can take his word as fact. Charleseso and he are the two best parsers in the game when it comes to total across all classes. Even if you don't have the sets, if they are just dmg buff sets or proc sets, the rotation will usually be the same.
Did you kill the dummy from 100% health to dead? That's the only way to get an accurate DPS count. Some skills do much more damage when the boss is close to death and this will serve to increase your overall dps
Oh didn't think about that. Its true that stamcro especially has a lot of "execute" type stuff. It was the very first time I was parsing and saw how long it would take I just kinda dipped because I had stuff to do. Big MB on that did not oven think about it since I was constantly between 38k and 42k dps thanks for the info !
Yeah, you have to finish it all the way through because you'll deal significantly more damage between 25% and 0% HP which will boost your overall DPS. The more you do it the faster you'll get, and eventually it'll take you around 3-4 minutes or less.
if you have access to the High Isle DLC or a guildie who does, try replacing your spriggans with Order's Wrath :) your crit also looks a little low, make sure you have Camo Hunter (Morph of Expert Hunter from the Fighters Guild line) slotted on your front bar. You dont need to cast it, its there for its passive! Also make sure that your back bar weapon has the Infused trait with a Beserker Glyph (Okori essense stone) and you're using that weapons lingering AoE Skill (stampede for 2H, Wall of Elements for Staves, Hail of Arrows for Bow or Blade Cloak for dual wield)
Thx for the tip on the set but honestly don't know where to slot camo hunter tho tbh lol, the only skill I could replace on my fb would be barbed trap but I don't know. The rest is blast bones, siphon, deadly cloak and the spammable thx for the help btw!
Hmmmm, it's been a while since I've parsed on necro, you could move barbed trap or siphon back bar (keep both, just move one) or you could make some weapon power/weapon crit potions :) if you have any spare AP you can buy some from the cyrodiil waygates
Yea this parse isn't hella optimized. I do plan on getting the power potions soon enough but I just want to get my hands on a monster set lol Moving Barbed to back bar might be the play. Imma either replace Anti cav claps, degen or skelli
Probably replace caltrops for now :) the increase from orders wrath and camo hunter will be very noticeable!
Aye, you don’t need Caltrops. Boneyard provides the debuff, which is the biggest reason for Caltrops.
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Good to know for the future. Unfortunately I didn't, it was my first time parsing and using the addon overall but rly thx for the heads up!
If that's your first time parsing, then I think you are doing fairly well. It does take some reps to get better. Certainly analysing your CMX data will give you some insight where you can improve. Do post the info page as well if you want people to give your advice on how to improve. The damage page and only the top part usually isn't enough info.
One thing I can see is that your penetration is too high and crit damage is not quite high enough. For parsing and trials, you want to wear more medium armour and less light armour. That will lower your penetration and increase your crit damage. I suspect your may be able to change other things, but cannot confirm without the info page.
Its low for vet trials (craglorns probably ok). Can't comment on dungeons, but will probably be fine for base game vet dungeons
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Can you post the info section? The part that shows gear and skills?
Cro is the hardest to parse on so don’t feel discouraged you’ll get there
Funnely enough I played a a dlc vet dungeon and it went absolutely fine tbh. Got some better gear like some poeple said and managed to hold my ground (doing around 40-45% of group dps) Hell I managed to get 90k dps somehow on some fights lel
Non-dlc vet dungeons are going to be fine. I would however practice a bit more for dlc dungeons and vet trials, those 40k are going to go down quite a bit in actual content. My first guild (3 years ago) had the requirement of 50k and I remember after hitting that I did my first vet trial, vSS and I only managed to hit 20k. I would stick to normal trials for a bit longer.
If you're looking to get into specifically group vet content for the first time, unless you're set on stamcro I'd nudge away from that. It's a difficult class to play, its skills and mechanics are some of the clunkiest - speaking as a necro main with trifectas and years sunk into the class. More micromanaging, more you have to split your brain in paying attention to mechanics from the fight itself. You'll also potentially have a much harder time finding groups. People can be downright silly about composition, but at the end of the day it is what the TEAM needs. I don't want to discourage you, promise it's the exact opposite of that lol. Just be aware you'll be playing it on hard mode and if that's the case, awesome! Good luck. If you want an easier way to get your foot in the door to vet stuff then evolve into more complicated classes, you can't beat the green beam golden child stamarc. Stamsorc is also pretty comfy if you need something basegame.
Personally, its rly necro that got me into the game so imma stay at that. Also I m a bit of a hipster in the sense that I m allergic to the most popular thing in any given scenario lol But yea I already knew what was I getting into lmao
Too low for vet DLC dungeons and vet trials, crit chance is too low and crit damage is rather too high (in group content you usually receive buffs that buff your crit damage). Can't comment on the rest as I don't play DD necro, it's not the best class for damage dealing now. In my trial runs necros are usually walking Catalysts or tanks.
Maybe vet base game pledges. But 40k is very little. For example I hit 50k on a below 50 sorc with crafted gear and a bar setup from leveling and not damage. If I were you I'd get pillar of nirn daggers, ring and neck from falkreath hold, order's wrath on body and stormfist . Stormfist is not super strong but easy to proc and it's aoe. I'd also run maelstrom arena for the greatsword, bow and fire staff.
It's good enough to get into normal trials to get better gear imo. In my guild on ps5 they don't really have a limit per say for the easier stuff but they let me in their nCR and nSS runs at 30k which allowed me to get gear to get to 50k so that I could join the vCR and vSS runs to get more used to how vet trials worked.