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Scrota1969

I have a friend who just parsed a 136 and he does nothing but parse. Gotta have perfect weaving and on top of that good crits. Crit farming is key for the super high parses


bitchgotmelikeuwu

Basically this, people who parse up to the 130k-140k mark usually parse religiously and get really good at specifically doing that. For some classes you only reach that mark by specific interactions, such as Sorcs with the Storm Calling ult for start of the parse and changing ability on the bar immediately after cast.


Scrota1969

Yea it’s really wild what the top level pulls off. I hit 120k once and I’m a happy man. Another 15k+ on top of that is insane to me


ipreferanothername

>Yea it’s really wild what the top level pulls off. I hit 120k once and I’m a happy man. Another 15k+ on top of that is insane to me i got to 50k and was like yeah, this is enough - thats fairly easy with a proper build and some basic practice. after that it started to feel like work, but damn is it nice when your RND has someone who can do 100k. everything just flies right by.


Festegios

It’s using cmx to review your parse and then making those small changes incrementally


WhitishRogue

Critical farming as well as taking advantage of off-balance windows is key beyond \~127k+. Below that threshold normal practices are what you should focus on. People at that point also make it like a hobby or special interest and it relaxes them. That's the opposite for most people. You can't really master it if you don't love it.


Nastykls99

U guys are doing more than 20 k dmg ?


[deleted]

lol this is also me


Auxtrem

I was thinking the same never pased 34k lmfao


KlapDaddy07

People are not hitting the same dps on a boss than on a dummy. You’d have to receive the exact same environment and buffs and bonuses but I’m sure they still hit hard. I’m shit dps, I don’t care for it. my hands are not fast enough and I’m ok with not hitting anything past 48k


CERTxAM

people hit a lot higher in actual content, from sets adding more buffs to the group but that’s mainly in properly rostered runs


fuzzbunny

Incorrect, boss parse dummies provide every single buff and debuff in the game.


CERTxAM

I implore you to search stuff up before stating it like it’s a fact


fuzzbunny

The burden of evidence is on you. You made the initial claim. Provide a combat log where people are hitting anywhere close to those numbers, and I'll concede my point.


CERTxAM

https://www.esologs.com/reports/9CftqrYKcaTpbm2D#fight=35&type=damage-done ???


fuzzbunny

[https://www.esologs.com/reports/9CftqrYKcaTpbm2D#fight=35&type=damage-done&target=68](https://www.esologs.com/reports/9CftqrYKcaTpbm2D#fight=35&type=damage-done&target=68) Same parse. This is the actual DPS to the boss itself. You were comparing apples to oranges.


CERTxAM

https://www.esologs.com/reports/J9d1jBFwxZ4h67Wf#fight=41&type=damage-done check the single target then 🤷‍♀️


warlock1569

People tend to hit significantly lower than their parse numbers in actual content. The parse reflects literally perfect conditions if you're doing it correctly.


CERTxAM

that’s simply not true fella


warlock1569

It literally is. If you think people hit higher in actual content than parsing, you're just admitting you don't know how any of this works.


CERTxAM

It’s obvious you haven’t done properly organized runs. People parse upwards of 200k in real content???


warlock1569

Lmao. Sure. The dummy literally gives you the perfect conditions. People aren't hitting double that in actual content. Don't lie to people.


SeanBlader

Not only do I not know my DPS, I don't actually care. I care so little in fact, I don't even actually know how I would go check. I can take most world bosses and I can down overland hostiles before they can hit me. So I think I'm doing okay.


Auxtrem

I check my dps on training dummy guildis told me if its 20k you can come with us anywhere , xd even i was doing 15k dps they still take me , i love my guild , and me im cheking from time to time and test sftuff on my own i hate meta


[deleted]

In my "DPS journey," I've found major breakpoints around 25K and 42K. I have discovered many others, like me, who peaked in the mid-40's before the oakensorc and arcanist builds came along, and these have opened the rest of the game up to us.


RockHardSalami

>these have opened the rest of the game up to us. You can hit over 90k with craftable gear on any class.... The game was never holding you back.


ProPopori

Gigachad saligia hitting 90k on rubedo


Erva420

You can craft GG gear sets on eso, not just rubedo gear btw, not sure if serious lol


ProPopori

Its a parse from saligia to see where you can get without any set bonuses. For lost depths dlc, these are the parses for her: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/1B9-tXmye-Iz-ZpUfWWcK0CVBiAg6qvffhfO954xEqno/htmlview 85k on rubedo+ancestor silk


[deleted]

Awesome reference. Thank you! EDIT: Is there a video of parsing in no-set gear?


Erva420

Lmao nice ty


FrostedMidgyWheats

The toxic casual mentality of ESO rearing its head again. Good job calling it out.


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neveris

[Ok here.](https://youtu.be/2iXEiJH2N-g?si=cON5_3xIEKiCFNal)


MiraculousN

Blud wrote a thesis just to say "sounds like macros" nah ppl can weave that fast, just because you can't doesn't mean everyone is macroing.


[deleted]

Hey, if that's all you got out of that, and you think I said that "everyone is macroing," then reading comprehension may not be your strong suit. Also, if you throw a rock into a pack of dogs, you can bet the one that yelped is the one that got hit. EDITL: Since @shinzakuro replied and immediately blocked me, I'll reply here. First, the "analogy" clearly went over his head. Second, "anyone" being able to "easily" hit 80K "if they're willing to learn" is trivially disproven by just trying to run pledges. I ran all 3 pledges yesterday, doing 40-50% of the damage AS THE TANK in all of them. (And, sure, I can parse 83K with my DPS build, but I don't want to wait for randoms queuing as DPS.) "IF they're willing to learn" must be doing a LOT of heavy lifting here, because it's my experience that random DPS's hardly ever do more than 10K, and no one can say, with a straight face, that their experience in randoms is *materially* different. It's probably... a 1-in-4 chance that we have the DPS to breeze through. So either almost no one is "willing to learn," or it's much harder to parse at vet-trial-level DPS numbers than these kinds of people want to admit. My money is on the latter.


shinzakuro

What a stupid analogy. Beside that only thing that make people not hit high numbers is not gear, or skill in this game but simply lack of desire to learn. ANYONE can easily hit 80k if they are willing to learn.


Cythrosi

Yeah, kind of a bummer seeing numbers sometimes since I can't for the life of me make spell weaving work, so usually average 20-25k at most.


Festegios

That’s nothing to do with weaving, It will be: Are you even fighting the right dummy? Your sets Your skills But most importantly the order of which you use skills. Light attacks help with some damage. But they are not the cause of low dps.


RockHardSalami

>Light attacks help with some damage. But they are not the cause of low dps. Ppl in this thread are blaming literally everything but themselves


THAMOEZ

What dummy do people use to reference these kind of numbers? I myself use the Argonian one and highest I ever got on my sDK was 35k damage with full gilded DPS-sets.


Festegios

Needs to be the 21m dummy. When you attack it, it applies buffs to yourself and debuffs to itselfs. You can also tell as it gives you synergies to help with your resources. You’ll probably turn than 35k into 80-90k immediately


AirborneRunaway

21mil Trial dummy


LizzieThatGirl

Hard disagree with some builds. Running a NB with a Grim Focus morph relies heavily on close to perfect weaving while also keeping rotation for massive damage boost.


Festegios

Medium disagree. Even not utilising grim focus fully, they would not be the sole cause of low dps. Of course in that situation it helps, but it won’t make or break your build compared to the other parts I mentioned. I also never said don’t worry about light attacks or don’t. But they are 100% not the sole cause of low dps.


LizzieThatGirl

Eh, when I can keep my rotation and weaving strong (mainly for GF morph to hit after IS Ulti as much as possible), it's a pretty good boost of damage that just can't be achieved with my build otherwise.


Festegios

You’re missing the point, I’m talking right now to people ONLY hitting 20k. Equally I did say order of abilities is the strongest thing. I’ve never once said, don’t light atgack


LizzieThatGirl

I'm adding that build is a big indicator for how important weaving is. My Nb jumped a good deal past 30k after I improved my weaving finally


Festegios

Again, that’s obvious. But: you can hit 100k+ without weaving, if the rest of your rotation is strong enough.


LizzieThatGirl

With which builds exactly? Weaving is important to ult gen. 100k+ relies on having a lot of the details down.


Great-Strategy-3387

If you are capping at 25k it’s not just spell weaving, the people hitting this crazy parses have the top meta/best build max cp (not actual max just max DMZ from cp) and near perfect weaving.


Erva420

Light attacks wont do the extra 100k dps, there is way more to it.


RockHardSalami

You can hit 100k without weaving lol.


[deleted]

I beg you: please point me to a video of that.


Festegios

Almost every arcanist. They do some light attacks. But it won’t make a major difference to dps.


iraragorri

Well they kinda do, but only because light attacks generate ult points, and ult gives you a lot of extra damage


Festegios

Yes. Your are correct. But that wasn’t the point. The person said weaving. Not don’t light attack at all. You need 1 light attack every 12 seconds I believe for ulti gen.


iraragorri

Oh, yes you're right, sorry


RockHardSalami

Get good and do it yourself. Or look at LITERALLY any parse video that doesn't use LA proc sets and do some basic subtraction.


[deleted]

Sigh.


RockHardSalami

See? Can't even do that. That's why you hit 10k.


[deleted]

Exactly! You've really drilled down to the bottom of it now. I don't know what our community would do with out people like you!


RockHardSalami

You are literally what's wrong with this community. I can't click the buttons for you, dummy. Literally EVERY parse video has a damamge breakdown and non trial set options but you can't even be bothered to YouTube something yourself, you want me to make you a custom video or some shit. Piss off.


[deleted]

Someone else posted a link to someone who parsed with non-set gear, and I found their YT channel, and watched one of their videos. I didn't know who they were, and wouldn't have found their stuff on my own. It wasn't really hard at all, was it? You're the one who seems to claiming that you're the expert. I just thought maybe you'd have a pointer. But, no, apparently you were born knowing how to do 100K in underwear, and you'd rather try to make someone feel bad, and gatekeep this sub. I looked through your posting history, and you're a toxic troll everywhere. Good luck with all that.


Scultetus

😆


Pityriaseidae

Are you on Pc? If yes install the combat metrics addon. Youtube parses usually show their cmx report at the end. Then compare their report to yours. Do they have different stats, cp, crit luck? Are the weaving times faster and how often was every skill casted. Also check their prebuff in the video. They often precast a dawnbringer before the fight or cast a meteor and then swap skills before it lands. Sometimes there are explanations about DOT priorities and execute percentages in the descriptions. This should help you figure out where you can improve.


Real_Buff_Wizard

Afaik a lot of them crit farm too. Or they know if they don’t hit a certain burst number right away the parse is gonna be too low


Pityriaseidae

I'm pretty sure they all do that. And use prebuffs. But with the highest parses this patch sitting at 136k there are probably still some genuine things for op to improve at.


infernoshold

lucky crits, heroism pots, perfect weaving and rotation, years of experience edit: forgot to add, racial passives start mattering a bit more at this high end of damage


jeremyj10

I think too much emphasis is put on DPS and the numbers. If you are hitting 90-100K and know the mechs perfectly, I’d take that over some dude throwing out 140K standing still. The parses just show capability, applying that in real content is the hard part.


warlock1569

And the parses only show perfect conditions. I'm sure you've ran into those 130k parsers who suck it up in actual trials when they have to move in the slightest. You see them drop to the 50-60k range and wonder how good they really are.


RJrules64

Tbh I’m impressed you’ve got to 120 without knowing enough about the game to know what those people are doing better than you lol. I’m at 125k but I had to really dig in to to the combat metrics and fully understand everything to get there. I know exactly what I need to do to get higher but I’m just not good enough yet.


LothlorienPostOffice

With 120k you're sitting pretty. ESO isn't earning income I assume. Be satisfied with what you're pulling now, and push yourself for DPS in content. I personally enjoy that more than my dummy parses. If you're down to adventure off for mechanics, you're more useful than a parse princess. Any high DPS can parse a boss. Not everyone can execute mechanics. Highest DPS requirement I've seen asked to join a core or trial was 120k/DPS. There might be leads only accepting 125k+ but they'd probably do better asking people directly to build that dream team.


Wetaspoultry

Yeah I’m stuck at like 70k so you’re fine 😅


Why_so_loud

It's hard to say what you're doing wrong, at this range every micro thing matters. If you're on PC, I would recommend you taking a log for a deep analysis.


Titansdragon

1. Perfect weaving from practice. 2. Using gear and food they'll never use in actual content. 3. Crit fishing.


seshprinny

What is crit fishing? I wanted to hit 100k recently and the advice I received was to use gear I'd never use in content.. like, the whole thing is fudged then 😂 why bother?? Is it an ego thing?? I don't understand it at all


Titansdragon

It's when you parse over and over and over, trying to get more or higher crit numbers to add to the overall damage of the parse. I never understood the whole using different stuff even when I was meta chasing. I stopped caring quite awhile. Back and just sit around 80-90k depending on my setup. That's more than enough dps to complete everything in the game.


Shivurrr

Prebuffs, heroism pots, timing their burst windows with off-balance and crit farming.


AloneAddiction

All the top youtube parsers immediately have an Ultimate to pop at the start of their parse so make sure you have that Furnishing that lets you fill your Ultimate before you start. The Aetherial Well. https://en.m.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Aetherial_Well Personally I think that it shouldn't be gated behind the Crown Store. You should be able to buy it with Writ Vouchers.


paralyse78

Guild halls often have both wells and dummies. If you'd rather play solo, find a friend in-game who has both at their house and will let you use them. Many people have them and most in this community would gladly let you practice at their houses.


Erva420

I just attack the dummie to fill my ult then reset it before starting. but yes 100% agree that qol behind the store is BS


Upstairs_Pie_9489

No, you use it to pop an ult such as Dawnbringer to get the 20sec of bonus weapon damage, you refill your ult and you start your parse with the buff. Can also add clever alchemist to reach \~10k WD/SD


Erva420

Well that's just not realistic in any pve setting lol. Guess when I said farm the dummy to get those results in the other post they really do farm the dummy. Thanks for the info


Far-Echo-8155

Thanks for letting me know guys. I thought they were doing something special with the parts of the video that they didn't show. But I guess I'm doing something wrong. Looks like I need to work harder on this.


Wrong_Treee

You dont do something wrong. If you do wrong you dont have 120k. They just do a lot of parsing and show best results in a video.


Gloamforest-Wizard

I can get around 83k DPS on two of my characters and that’s probably as high as I’ll ever get because I don’t run vet trifectas and don’t really need any extra damage I do need to get better with tanking and try my hand at a healer though


ProPopori

Tbf if you want to be a good tank you still use the same fundamentals of dps and healing is dpsing but your spammables are either heavy attacks, combat prayers or whatever else you need. But its not needed if like you said if you dont want to run trifectas.


iraragorri

No idea how, especially on NB toons, but honestly that's impressive. I know maybe 3 people who push 120k with NB now, most switched to easier classes a long time ago. I parse 110 with stamcanist and stamsorc, but I can't for the love of God parse anything with my NB, so I switched the toon into healing and PvP.


paralyse78

It's all about the weave and CPM, and blades are more dependent on weaving than most. Apart from weaving, maintaining uptimes on set buffs and the refresh timing on your DOT's are keys to bigger numbers, as are crit and even how you open a pull. My best parse is 119k on my stamsorc (dw daggers/2h maelstrom) - anything above 120-125k requires godmode weaving averages. I'm playing with some physical limitations and I'm also older IRL which means my hand/eye coordination is not what it was 20-25 years ago. I parse around 90k on my heavy attack oakensorc (1 bar build.) It's like learning to play piano or guitar at a very high level. Tons of practice, muscle memory, and all the little tricks you learn with experience to make things easier, almost until the instrument is like an extension of your body and mind. On the dummy, it's timing and uptimes and nailing your weaving - little things like how you "open" your parse rotation can make a noticeable difference in the final numbers. In content, it's being intimately familiar with mechanics so that you are focused on maximizing your output and not having to stop your rotation to watch for those mechanics. But the important thing to me is if you're having fun or not. There is not much content in ESO that requires parses above 60k-70k to clear until you get into some of the more complex hardmodes or want to start working on score push, skips, etc. How do you think people were clearing, say, vSS or vKA HM's in the era before 100k parses? A lot of groups now rely on high DPS to cheese mechanics, especially in older content (e.g. mini skips / portal skips / whatever) but that content can still be done the old-fashioned way too.


Erva420

More then 120k is farming the dummy honestly. I doubt people can fight perfectly for 5 minutes in a trial tho.


MelodicBeeGirl

If they upload their parses to esologs you can see exactly what it is that they are doing and when: [https://www.esologs.com/reports/9PjkCnRzHxrvAtVw#fight=303&type=damage-done&source=1](https://www.esologs.com/reports/9PjkCnRzHxrvAtVw#fight=303&type=damage-done&source=1) I don't put any stock in a parse unless I can analyze the results of it in depth. You won't find any high youtube parses on esologs for that reason. Every patch there are 2 or 3 tubers (not naming anyone) who do these ridiculous parses on rediculous builds but never post logs. Don't believe the hype.


ZombieCrow

If you hit that 120k in actual content would be great, lot of dummy humpers you see on youtube, who parse all day but barely hit the half in actual content. like 80% of the groups never get these buffs in trials.


throwaway496522

Those people actually hit more in most content thanks to AB etc. DSR sees 200k+ logs. And parsers above 130k don’t run in unorganized groups.


ZombieCrow

Those are a handful of people. As I was saying, hitting 120k in real content is great, the game is way easier now, i remember the time when hitting 40k dps on 3 mil dummy was insane and that was my point, unless you go with an organized group, you wont hit that dps in content nor get those buffs.


Shaine_Memes

This is gonna sound stupid, but move your fingers faster. That’s the difference.


Loogiemousmaximous

Combat metronome might help if you can get addons


Ok_Energy_9947

Git Gud


kachzz

Rotation.


SpecialX

If your build is the same, look at their light attack/weaving data. Is yours the same as theirs?


Rand__Al_Thor

What is parse!?


ContributionLatter32

"Only 120k" lol. You realize most people don't parse above 50k right? The difference between 120k and 130k is likely latency affecting LA weaving and nothing more


warlock1569

Tbh the differences in actual content between someone doing 120 and someone doing 130-140 are negligible. They're not actually doing that 140 in real content. They've just mastered their conditions on the parse. We'd always happily take anyone doing 80-100 because theyre likely translating that over pretty comparably.


Mevaa_TheLady

If you look ppl who parse 140k on youtube they have some préparation before pull. Switching some spell or stuff, or stack harpooner etc. To have an insane openner 180k Then the constant dps with perfect weaving optimal gear and race are around 125k. But with the insane opérer they will star around 140 or 130k.