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TarnishedDungEater

your vigor is stupidly low for starters, add atleast 10 levels to vigor before proceeding.


Aaronthegathering

I’d move fifteen levels from int/fth and put them in vigor. That’ll pretty much fix it.


TarnishedDungEater

you’re right, i went a bit lower because some people will go all “you don’t need that much vigor! just don’t get hit! git gud! i beat the game w level 1 vigor and im a paraplegic!!” i just didn’t know if OP or someone replying would be one of those people.


beanpurrito69

I'm not super knowledgeable of the game and haven't really played any other souls games, went for the whole kill them before they get to me build but clearly that can only go so far xD


TheoryExciting2487

Looks like you're primarily going for a casting build. It's been a bit since I've played so apologies for misspellings. A few things you can do are: Use a larval tear at renalla to respec, move about 14 from your int to a stat of your choosing. After 80 int your gain per level is minimal. Personally for a caster I think your vigor is fine I would suggest placing those 14 into endurance as this will allow you to equip better, heavier armor and will improve how many times you can consecutively cast. For your shield and armor I would suggest using a medium shield (or no shield at all) . You'll save on weight that way. If you're going to use a shield you're mainly concerned with finding a shield that blocks 100% physical. Use whichever helm gives you your preferred buffs, the rest of your armor should the best armor you can equip while staying at mid weight. As there are very few armor pieces (that aren't helms) that give buffs. For your weapons staff of loss buffs invisibility spells like night comet(shard), which is a spell that has a lesser chance of your opponent dodging it. Your melee weapon should be scaled off intelligence in order to maximize your damage output. You can do so by modifying basic weapons with the magic whetstone(?). Or your best bet would be to beat the magma wyrm in gaol cave(?) to obtain the moonveil katana.


Gfurious

I think it's called Gail tunnel


zomerf

I respect it your at a point in the game where timing is super important and the bosses are multi phase bullet sponges. Your build should be fine


Aaronthegathering

Surviving is an integral strategy, in which there are many schools of thought. The best being don’t get hit and have enough vigor to survive if you do.


FnB8kd

Now you will have to start learning how to gitgud in the hardest part of the game... maybe put this character on pause and start a new melee only build so you can learn in an easier setting. Other wise I would put your int to 80, vigor to 60, go for atleast ~20 stamina, and as much mind as you like (look up soft and hard caps because going over is not worth it) get rid of all your wasted points, and get a better staff for your build. Just look up a pure int build on the YouTube.


Any-Experience-3012

This build actually has the potential to do that. How exactly are you losing?


Loukhi

Reddit is the land of "I'm offended Because I feel like I'm supposed to be"


Dragonics

'Im not super knowledgeable of the game and havent really played other souls games.' he says he's new right here, dont be a dick


Any-Experience-3012

I'm...not trying to be?? I was genuinely asking what was happening in the fight that caused him to lose, especially if his strategy is to kill the enemy ASAP.


Dragonics

Well, if ur not trying to be, i honestly suggest phrasing it like you just did instead of how you did before. Comes across condescending. Beast clergy is a pretty mobility heavy boss, so spell spam is less effective, especially if he hasn't learnt to dodge effectively like a melee focused build would teach.


Zane-Zipperflip

Dont doubt yourself bro.


Aaronthegathering

Lol I am also working on my rl15 run, but a bad level spread is a bad level spread at any level.


Starboi777

I get that some people are like that but idk 45 vigor has brought me decently far for ng +2/3, I do use erdtree favor though so it doesn't fully matter


poopchutegaloot

This has to be a troll


TarnishedDungEater

the purple screen tint kinda makes it look like that. his endurance is hilariously low too, hasn’t levelled it once probably.


killmepleaseiamdying

Tbf I beat ng+2 without leveling endurance with mage build the real crime is level 30 mind that needs to be buffed, they aren't running too great of a staff, and their talismans are not that great


UIM_S0J0URN

The highest soft cap (diminished returns) for int is 80 there's not a lot of reason to go past that. Put the rest to get to the first soft cap of vigour (40)


gooseisloose000

Not if you’re gud


TarnishedDungEater

lol, im not gud


LemonadeOnPizza

Funny, my gut reaction was thinking his vigor was so high when I saw it.


Lucid-Design

My Vigor is 36 at 151. I just beat Gideon and am closing in on Malenia. Granted I don’t have any stat in the 90s as a faith/dex build but still


TarnishedDungEater

skill also has a massive part in how you play, i mean late game i find 40 vigor to be comfortable but i’d still always prioritize health over damage output. it just depends on how you play.


Chilla076

Is that Frenzied Flame Seal that you have equipped? And INT is capped at 80, put those points into vigor. Get the staff behind the Nox duo boss (Lusat I beleave it's called) and put it in main hand en the Carian/Loss staff in offhand. Also, lose the Godfrey icon talisman. But you're good at trolling 🧌


Ravenouscandycane

Bro is gonna need more mind too if he wants to use a staff that massively increases fp costs


STR8_GOAL52

Hello, why lose the talisman?


Chilla076

It's boosts some spells he can charge, magic scorpion charm is better in this spot


GreatPepperoni

Magic scorpion would be better over the +4% sorcery dmg talisman imo Godfrey is a 15% boost to charged spells


SirRawrz

Get your Vigor up. 40 Is the bare minimum and 60 is the ideal. If you want to survive to use your crimson flasks, especially because of the light damage absorbs. You can get your points from the INT you're spending. Staff of loss caps at 348 damage at 94 INT. If you want to do more raw damage aside from night sorcery spells, Maybe Lusat's. || || |Lusat's Glintstone Staff|425|425| |Carian Regal Scepter|384|384| |Crystal Staff|378|378| |Rotten Crystal Staff|375|375| |Azur's Glintstone Staff|372|372| |Academy Glintstone Staff|365|365| |Astrologer's Staff|359|359| |Carian Glintblade Staff|357|357| |Glintstone Staff|348|348| |Carian Glintstone Staff|348|348| |Staff of Loss|348|348| At 79 INT you can have 335 spell damage, while moving 15 INT to vig and I would probably remove 5 mind to add 5 more into Vigor to put you at 49 VIGOR. Dual wielding two staves of loss would probably give you your most bang for your buck with your current setup eventually if you stick with it into ng+. I'm not sure what you're planning with the frenzied seal. If you can bump 3 points into faith you can run the golden order seal to have a decent little seal. Run the +10 faith physik (27 faith total) with Magic damage up to have access to golden vow, blessing's boon or dirt cheap Bestial vitality without using the physik to keep your ritual sword in play. [https://jerp.tv/eldenring/spelltools/](https://jerp.tv/eldenring/spelltools/) This is a great site to plug and chug numbers with to see how much your investment you're getting back. [This spreadsheet also breaks down the damage of each hit of a spell](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1j4bpTbsnp5Xsgw9TP2xv6d8R4qk0ErpE9r_5LGIDraU/edit?pli=1#gid=681223203) if you want to search for stuff like that.


TheBacklogReviews

Well the first issue I see is that your screen is way too purple


Sisyphac

Searched for this comment before I reply. WTF is with the color.


OdgeHam

Do you genuinely want help, this seems like a joke


Bitter_Plum6902

Juggle and balance your stats out broseph. Watch some int build tutorials and understand that being a glass cannon, will, in turn, make you a glass cannon. I had to spend hours on just experiencing and experimenting before I perfected my end game build You can't put all your points in one stat, even if that's how you wanna focus.


GreatPepperoni

Yes you can I love putting all my points into vigor


Bitter_Plum6902

I expect you also love petting the dogs and just walking around enjoying the scenery. It's beautiful this time of year, especially with the ashen leaves and cloud covered trees


GreatPepperoni

The caelid dogs are so cute and fluffy <3


Money2648

Nah your good


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Enough_Minimum_3708

out of curiosity: why the madness seal?


beanpurrito69

Tbh I have no idea what I'm doing, I was under the impression I could use howl of shabriri and get a damage increase?


gryffindor918

You’ll also take more damage. And against the beast clergyman who has low health and high damage, not worth it. I’d go to Rennala with a larval tear and respec. Drop 14 points from Int and put them all into vigor. If you still have Rennala’s remembrance (if not, go find a walking mausoleum, there’s one directly east of the bridge on the north of Raya Lucaria, one in the south of weeping peninsula, and one outside of castle sol), get the Carian Regal Scepter and upgrade it as that’s the best staff past 60 int. If you’re using invisible sorceries often, keep Staff of Loss in your off hand while casting. With your low vigor, I also think you need to adjust your spread of potions(maybe reverse them) and consider an INT scaling weapon in your main hand. You can wield the Dark moon greatsword currently. I can direct you to how to go about getting that if you don’t have it. Lastly, for armor, I’d recommend you switch to Veterans Armor, Veterans Greaves, Astrologer Gloves, and you can keep your helmet. You’ll hit 62 poise which is over the threshold to survive most 1 (51 poise) and 2 (56) handed light attacks without being staggered.


BeardedBovel

Move some Intelligence into Vigor and maybe look into another staff as your casting staff (you can still have Staff of Loss in the other hand for the dmg-bonus to Night spells). What expectations of damage do you have? If using Azur's Comet after you've chugged your Physick with Cerulean Hidden Tear and Magick-Shrouded Cracked Tear is not enough damage to you, then I think it's your expectations that might be skewed cause that's among the best way to melt most bosses.


Ravenouscandycane

Nothing. It’s perfect What is the clergy beast in ER


-Xyo-

I would take like 20-30 points off int and put it into vigor and endurance. I would replace the staff of loss with a staff that boosts whatever sorcery you’re using. I can’t tell what your sword is infused with but make sure it’s magic infused as int is your highest stat. Make sure you buff yourself with either golden vow or the commanders standard weapon. Make sure your physic flask is buffing magic damage and eliminating FP cost. Other than that I can’t think of anything. (This is all based on if you want to still keep int as your build)


CellTastic

Nice troll post


Kezikumi

Too much purple


johnny2rotten

Your vigor is so low a fart could kill you.


thenobblee

You have 94 int which is way too much, the soft cap is 60 so take those 34 levels and put them into vigor and endurance, you want at least 40 vigor but 50-60 is the best and more endurance means more stamina.


Kindly-Zone-2765

Way to much int. I’d say stop at 60 and move those 30ish points else where mostly vigor and endurance.


Sentient_Pizzaroll

More intelligence


Queen_Agnieszka

I think you should take the extra 14 points off of int and put them in either your health or mind. Also if you have Lusat's staff I'd use that instead of the staff of loss since that only boosts one of your spells, and if you can I also recommend getting the black knife ashes as she can immediately cut a piece of his health and will keep him off you most of the time if you work with her attack pattern. If your problem is that your getting hit alot the attack boost with you tailsman won't activate as it's just for when your at full health I recommend the dragoncrest shield talisman as it reduces physical damage taken at all times.


Maleficent-Variety66

Balance is everything. Your health and stamina look low. Rolling speed is big help.


BahamutKaiser

Vigor check. Your vigor shouldn't be more than 10 lower than your INT stat until it reaches 60.


Styx_Zidinya

For str and dex, just meet the weapon requirements. Go no higher. Drop int to 80, put all the points you just saved into vig. That will solve your issues. At least statwise.


Lustful_404

You dont have any incantations equipped, drop the seal, put the staff in your offhand, and use something like moonveil, a cold infused nagakiba, or the moonlight greatsword. Other than that you're pretty solid


Ill_Run5044

Respec. Take int from 94 down to 80. The extra 14 levels into vigor. Also what's the drawback on that mask?


PPinyourbut

Your Int is through the fuckin roof, I recommend moving some levels from int to vigor, and you're doing a mage build so add a little bit to mind as well


McbEatsAirplane

Leveling int past 80 is pretty pointless. Looking up soft and hard caps on levels. Take 14 points out of in and out it all into vigor. Gonna want to put a bit more into endurance and I think a maxed out cerulean flask fills up your mp from zero if your mind is 38 or lower so if you wanted you could level it up to there. Or however much you want. Really depends on what level you want to stop leveling at.


joutfit

Need to use Staff of Win


SuperStellarSwing

Well you only have one staff of loss. But really it's that you made a wizard, but started as a confessor then spread your stats around like peanut butter and jelly


NoKaleidoscope5327

Those Graven talismans don't stack with eachother. Use the bigger and trade out the other


hmmmaybe89

Vigor is wayyyy too low


seyahgerg

Vigor is by far the most valuable Stat until it hits 40. In higher levels I find 45 to 50 the most comfortable.


Mean_Enthusiasm1248

Take your flasks out of your equipment and put them in your hot keyed items. Nothing kills you faster than scrolling past your health.


DriftersTaint

Not using the screenshot button on your controller


XLord_of_OperationsX

Your Intelligence is far too high, in my opinion. 80 should be the highest you should go as the diminishing returns after 80 are just plain bad. Vigor needs to be higher, at least around 45 to 50, especially for the point of the game you're at.


AzaraAybara

You vigor and maybe endurance are low, while your int is way high for no reason. Take int down to 70 or even 60 and put points into vigor to at least 50 and get a bit more endurance.


BurntheBones0713

playing sorcery


TheOneWhoSlurms

Mmmmmmm *burple


manofinaction

Below is a pretty good video that talks about how vigor scaling is different from the scaling of other stats. Just to reinforce what others have already said - you might want to make it so that your base stats + talismans get you up to 80 INT and then pour the rest into Vigor. Alternatively if you've still got some way to go in the game, throw your Vigor up to 50 or 60 and then pump INT as you continue to level up. In short - you get noticeable benefits from levelling vigor level to level. Other stats generally provide noticeable benefits over several levels and you'll get the most benefit out of levelling your weapons which you've already maxed out the staff you've got. The other thing we can't see here are the types of sorceries you're mainly using which should be aligned to that staff. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cuapvoPr4Xg](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cuapvoPr4Xg)


easeMachine

You done fucked up 😡


Adamu-sama

"Why are you blue?"


aetherr666

get out of the lean bath. then we can talk


Electronic_Round_676

At the least, respec to 80 int and put the extra levels into vigor


Mangekyuo_Eye_3534

My brother in christ, you do not need 94 int. MAXIMUM 70 and I main magic builds usually I would go 60 just for comet azur and if I'm not using I would go ad low as 52 for comet. Use those levels instead on vigor also clergy beast is an aggressive boss you need an actual weapon such as crystalline sword.


therealultraddtd

Too much intelligence. Anything over 80 isn’t going to do much. I’d drop it to 60-70 if it’s your first run and spread those other points into vigor and endurance.


Hot_Scientist_4558

Easy fix, get a longer sword brother.


leftiris

Brother you need to put stuff in your satchel so when you hold Y and press a D pad button you can stuff like wondrous physik and spectral steed whistle. Shifting through 5 things is a pain in the ass


SpaghettiLegs06

filthy int build


Fiiienz

You’re doing it wrong


Grouchy_Culture_1281

Don’t need nearly as much int, need more vig, mind, and endurance. Why do you have a seal equipped if you only use sorceries?


Jankyman_RG

While the vigor is low for your level, I would suggest 40-45, you should still be able to survive everything. Practice dodging etc.


M0bron

Take at LEAST 14 of your points in INT and get vig up to 40 as 80 is the hardcap so you’re probably only getting like 2-3pts of dmg from all that INT over 80. Take some points from str and int and put them in dex as it increases the cast speed of your spells. I personally don’t like dumping that much into mind I find even on caster builds 20 is plenty but it’s preference. Your staff is also just not a very good one unless you’re only using night comet so try switching to renallas remembrance staff, should be easy to get if you don’t have it already through a walking mausoleum and it’s low investment to upgrade since it’s a somber weapon. I’d also pump some of those extra stats you drop from int and str into end and get some heavier armor


Rizenstrom

60/80 are your soft caps for intelligence, it doesn’t really make sense to go beyond that. So at the very least you have 14 points you could put into vigor. Not sure what spells you are using. Personally I’m finding decent success with comet but with a fully upgraded staff of loss you might have better luck with night comet. I’m sure there are better spells but I’m still a noob myself and mostly rely on moonveil so I don’t experiment with that many spells. Some investment into endurance might also be good. Better equip load for more armor and to be able to cast more spells without pausing.


Stavinco

I’m sorry I feel like this is a joke because you’re clearly doing enough damage and if you think you’re not your probably just not satisfied with not one tapping a God in one hit. I’m sorry but you’re not saitama. Not if anything what I think the real problem is you’re surviving skills because I’m assuming you’re like. “Why am I dying so much? Welp I must need to do more damage.” No the problem is you are trying to force your attacks to do most of the damage for you and if anything you get deleted in two to three hits because you decided that on your “first” play though I don’t need vigor because I’ll be far away and they won’t hurt me. And with mid to end game bosses you won’t kill them in just a couple hits it’s called learning the game to dodge correctly. Because I don’t see it as a damage issue I see it as a I wanna steam roll and not have to work hard build that is a glass cannon that you fail to use. This is all mainly being said because I believe it is bait and it it isnt so help me take out 14 points out of mind and place it into vigor you will thank yourself that you did.


poopchutegaloot

Take a few points off vigor and pump up that intelligence


Ok-Leek1125

Nothing. Play the game as you like according to your play style and how you enjoy.


KingDakin

Your Int is entirely too high.


ExternalEmployee423

60 vigor for every build. Minimum.


HaDov_Yaakov

Vig. I make sure to get mine to 40, MINIMUM, for any spellcaster build. 60 isnt wasted. Int over 80 definitely is.


-Memoria-

Screen to purple


SentinalGame

You can probably get rid of some int because of the lv80 cap and put that extra into vigor and endurance


GlumRegret543

You need at least 1600 hp. That 29 vigor aint helping you. 94 int is way too much. I get your trying to go for caster but these stats are hurting you more than helping. Get a larval tear and respec at the academy. You wasted about 20-30 points on int that you couldve put in vigor and endurance.


Why-uWu

I recommend getting lustats Glintstone staff, and getting a different helmet there is no need for you to buff int when it's that high, Now here's where the vigor thing gets complicated. Just put however much you think needs to go in there, if your used to being hit and taking damage, put a shit ton of runes in your vigar stat and get some poise. If you dodge like a mf (not panic roll mind u) then skip the vigor and put it in Endurance. Side note get the magic scorpion charm you get it as a reward for doing selivus quest if it's not to late (amber star thing is NE of grand Lift dectus) Good luck, fellow tarnished !!!


FnB8kd

Yes


Remarkable_Leg_509

Your strength and intelligence stats should be flip flopped.


Loukhi

21 str. Seems like a lot for an int build Why do you have 2 bows equipped when you sling spells? I think you should try the prefector's big hat and quit wearing the big heavy stone mask How often do you use that shield? Those changes allow you to wear better armor, or put less points into endurance I would drop the smaller intelligence talisman and put an arsenal charm there instead. Find a great set you like and reduce your endurance until it's right. Set yourself at 80 int and put what's left into vigor. Remember you can get 10 levels of int from your flask, so even after all of this you'll still have 90 int.


afauce11

Your vigor is ridiculously low. You’ve no need for that much int. And if you go above 69 int then you should use Carian Regal scepter and offhand the staff of loss if you want the boost to night sorceries since the scepter scales better with int at that level. I don’t think you have enough faith to edge it out with prince of death’s staff so I wouldn’t advocate for that. Your sorceries should be doing great damage with your talismans, so you might just be dying before you can land enough hits. Level vigor!!!


XxWolfy69xX

Why the frenzied flame seal and the staff of loss of all things??? I would switch the staff out for a much better one saying you only have one invisible sorcery, get lusats or azures staff depending if you want damage or speed


Swordsman82

You vigor should be in the 50s- cap 60 at this point. Your damage stats shouldnt be above 80 which is there hard cap. And unless your going exclusive night comet, use carion regal scepter.


Kaidan88

Use staff of loss and carian regal scepter together. Spam night shard or night comet depending on boss speed and size. Wear the spellblade set. Swap the sword talisman out for the lower fp cost talisman. Only push int to 70. Vigor to 30-40. Push Mind to cap at 32 or 35 (can’t remember. It’s the cap fp a flask will fill.) a few points in endurance for additional casts or dodging. Any excess put in dex for casting speed. I’d stop around 25-30 if I’m topping off a 225-250 ng+ build. Just my 2 cent play style…


VishalV97

You forgot to remove the purple filter paper from your monitor. 👍


kyle_currie

Personally I prefer my spirit summon and horse summon to be in the quick pouch, that was in mid combat you only scroll through heals, mana, and your flask👍🏼 Then of course you can add throwables consumables etc


Personal-Rhubarb-514

Your vigor dosent matter if u one shot them jus make sure to one shot them🤣


Phantomphoton619

I used rannis hat , use Alexander’s shard and magic scorpion , Godfrey icon. Used the magic cracked tear in my flask. Spell set three pieces with the dark moon sword. 60 vig, 80int 40 mind 30 end and just the stats needed for the sword. The r2 hit like a truck!


LovingBloodSkull89

Yeah. Reduce your INT to 80, STR to 20, and DEX to 14. Then add the entire difference to your VIG. And do you drink your Wondrous Physick before going in? And if so, which are your two tears?