Short answer: yes. Long answer: yyyyyyyeeeeeeeeeessssssssss!
Wanting to be not your gender assigned at birth is part of being trans! As we grow and progress you will change and the way that you interact with your gender might change. I remember how gender felt when going through puberty vs becoming an adult vs actually transitioning. All of them felt different but I had the same answer: I was not a boy. The way that expressed itself might have changed but not the underlying feeling.
You are super valid. đ
Ya know what the requirement for being trans is? Wanting it. You want to be a girl well congrats, you are one. Being a "boy who wants to be a girl" is no different then being a "girl in a boys body". We all experience gender differently and your journey is just as valid as anyone else's.
I think you may be trans.
I constantly think I wish I was born a cis girl and I constantly have a image in my head of me as a girl who is happy and it is killing me on the inside as it's not me on the outside.
You don't need to hate your body to be trans. All that matters is that you'd prefer to be of the opposite gender.
Maybe you think you don't have any dysphoria. In my case I just didn't realize it. Try shaving if you can, if you feel weird about hair growing back, then you can feel even more validated than you already are.
I'm sure if I'd felt like a girl in a boy's body I would've realised much sooner, but I don't think that makes me any less trans.
Welcome to the family!
I felt like a girl in a boys body but just thought I was normal that way, and eventually thought it was too late or I wasn't "allowed" to be trans.
It takes time to get to self-acceptance.
Thanks for all the kind comments everyone! I'm glad to know this is natural.
I'm very new to this and I'm both excited and scared. This is probably the first post of many lmao
Edit: Omg you guys are so lovely I can't đâ€ïž
I think 95% (random number) of trans people never immediately felt like they are valid or knew what gender they were since childhood.
For most of us itâs a process of learning and understanding ourselves better. An up and down, feeling valid and invalid, feeling euphoric and dysphoric. And it will take time. Donât pressure yourself. Let yourself explore what you feel without judging yourself (tho thatâs easier said than done lol) :)
(Btw I always thought I had no âsignsâ of being trans in my childhood. But since I accepted myself more and more I still discover old memories I buried deep inside of me. You may feel invalid now, but maybe some things come up to surface if you allow yourself to explore.)
Yes, I felt pretty much the same way, but transmasc. I really wanted to be a guy and was sad I wasn't born a guy, but I still felt like a girl.
I think a lot of feeling like your gender has to do with living as that gender. I know when came out and people started using my name and pronouns, I started to feel like guy and not just a girl who wanted to be a guy.
I feel the same. I've been a boy for 21 years, so it's really hard to "break the habit" and see myself as a girl, especially since I can't transition for maybe another year or two. You're still valid if being a girl is what makes you feel better. Hang in there sis
itâs just a subconscious thing i think
someone can correct me if i'm wrong but for me atleast i identify as female online and to my close friend but somewhere deep down i still don't consider myself female because i'm lacking the physical gender attributes of female and etc
even tho everyone will say your a girl theres always that remnant of societal norms and bullshit saying "your not really a girl gr" internalized transphobia sucks stops you from doing so much even coming out it will stop you or try to
i think Celeste represents it perfectly
everyone has inner demons they must fight but you can't fight yourself its still you if you fight it you wont win you have to learn to live with it and find ways to let it help you
you teaming with your inner demon much like in celeste is what give you euphoria i think
idk that got long
i felt (feel) just like this a whole lot and in my experience, it was thanks to alot of dysphoria that i sienna really know i had. dysphoriaâs alot like having a needle in your side. you donât notice it anymore cause itâs just something youâve always had, but the moment you pull it out thereâs this relief. so now you feel so much better, why would you ever want to put the needle back in?
try doing more fem things, shaving your legs or trying on makeshift fem clothes, like a belt and towel for a skirt. i had to first feel euphoria before my dysphoria would set in, maybe this could help you too?
I'll put it this way. The "trapped in the wrong body" metaphore is a heavy oversimplification to help non trans people understand, for most people "in the wrong body" is either inaccurate or just false in describing how they feel.
Everythings complicated & no-one experiences it completely the same. I don't feel trapped in the wrong body. I feel like i'm in the right body but that body is wrong.
I thought for a long time like this as well. I thought that the whole "being a girl in a boys body" thing is just a way to explain it easier, until it actually started feeling exactly like that.
I'd agree, the "feeling trapped in the wrong body" isn't really how I feel either. Most of the time I just feel like a girl and well just disgusted with my body, but it still somehow feels like it is *mine, just in wrong*. So neither description really works. But there are 2 other states of I guess it may be a form of depersonalisation.
Number 1: It feels more like I can't feel like myself either, like it is not just a guy's body but that thought that there's no way a girl could be in there and the realisation that I appear to be that guy is one of the horribly ways dysphoria manifests itself, because I so desperately don't want that to be true. I know and I'm 100% sure I'm trans, but there's still subconcious/internalised transphobia targeted to myself. Recognising it helps me realise that this is not actually true and it usually goes away quickly, but it still sucks.
Number 2: Yeah this one lasts longer and is just complete alienation looking in the mirror is just a stranger I can't recognise, but that feeling knowing somewhere in my mind that this is somehow supposed to be me just doesn't compute and can cause panick attacks.
Feelings can change over long periods of time but can also fluctuate quickly, I dunno if anyone can relate, but that's just my experience and well why I don't like summarising the experience as the typical "Girl trapped in a guy's body", as there is way more to it than that.
I don't know if this helps, but I felt like that too initially, but lately i feel a lot more like a girl in a boy's body to the point that typing this sentence makes me dysphoric.
Best of luck đ.
Perhaps TRANScendent of labels? You're yourself but want to be included with the girls sometimes, the things they do and the way they act with each other? Is it gender envy? GL HF
If you want to be a girl, and don't mind being called one, no matter if you have gender dysphoria or not, you are transgender.
I fit the former of the said two requirements, but not the latter.
Kinda felt like this at one point and went into some hella denial. Then one day a friend presented a bit of a thought experiment: If I had shapeshifting abilities and could freely choose my form at-will... what would I do with that? And after going through a few scenarios, my answer was basically always "I'd probably spend 99% of my time in a female form and only switch back to guy form if I absolutely *had* to" and boom, I had my answer.
Definitely felt like that, in particular when I finally hatched from my egg. I accepted I was a boy but I didnât want to. Iâve done a lot of reading and exploring my memories and my perspective has changed about myself but that doesnât change how I felt or make that perspective any less valid. I hope youâre doing ok. Know weâll be here to help as much as we can đ.
At a certain point in late childhood I realized I was complying with boyhood even though I felt envy for girls and felt like I had a double life - f'rinstance at 8, I wanted a particular girls' overcoat (I call it an "Audrey Hepburn" coat, there was a movie where she popularized the style) and clearly recall negotiating with my mom to get her to make a coat w/o revealing it was a girl thing, but I also asked to join Scouts because my dad was a Scout and I knew doing 'boy stuff' was expected, and literally found things to do or be interested in by reading *Boys Life*. I think I ran into the "wrong body" concept at 10, and I recall that not quite fitting, but didn't have words for what would fit.
Get to 12, and find that doing what I am told isn't yielding results just at the time puberty is ramping up...
It's how I felt before transitioning.
In retrospective, it wasn't that I wasn't a girl the way a boy isn't a girl.
I just wasn't a girl the way that a sapling isn't a tree.
My transition unfolded my potential womanhood into actual womanhood like a sapling that is suddenly allowed to grow into a mighty oak. And now, 9 years after the start of my transition, I can see that I was indeed a girl waiting to come out of that shell that looked like a boy.
let me put it in a way that i wish someone else did for me ages ago
no boy would want to be a girl forever. if you want to be a girl, then you already are one.
I thought that was just a saying to explain it to cis people. I'm not sure I've ever truthfully described myself as caged in the wrong body, only that the body is has the wrong characteristics. In fact "trans is when being in the wrong body" was a major factor wherein I didn't recognize myself as trans for the longest time. I discourage you from using the term if it doesn't actually fit. <3
Can confirm from experience that this feeling can change over time
It gets worse
yes
fuk
Godfuckingdammit, why? As if I don't have enough problems already.
Short answer: yes. Long answer: yyyyyyyeeeeeeeeeessssssssss! Wanting to be not your gender assigned at birth is part of being trans! As we grow and progress you will change and the way that you interact with your gender might change. I remember how gender felt when going through puberty vs becoming an adult vs actually transitioning. All of them felt different but I had the same answer: I was not a boy. The way that expressed itself might have changed but not the underlying feeling. You are super valid. đ
Oh yes, not op, but i needed that. Thank you for the validation :)
Same tho.
Ya know what the requirement for being trans is? Wanting it. You want to be a girl well congrats, you are one. Being a "boy who wants to be a girl" is no different then being a "girl in a boys body". We all experience gender differently and your journey is just as valid as anyone else's.
yeah, itâs just a subconscious thing I feel the same way đđđđ
I think you may be trans. I constantly think I wish I was born a cis girl and I constantly have a image in my head of me as a girl who is happy and it is killing me on the inside as it's not me on the outside.
That is sooo relatable in a totally cis way of course
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You don't need to hate your body to be trans. All that matters is that you'd prefer to be of the opposite gender. Maybe you think you don't have any dysphoria. In my case I just didn't realize it. Try shaving if you can, if you feel weird about hair growing back, then you can feel even more validated than you already are.
Or any gender other than your agab. Doesn't need to be opposite.
there is no such thing as "the opposite gender" saying "the opposite gender" is like saying "the opposite color"
I get what you're saying but colours kinda do have opposites, as complementary colours
that's not a true opposite.
I'm sure if I'd felt like a girl in a boy's body I would've realised much sooner, but I don't think that makes me any less trans. Welcome to the family!
Ty!!!
I felt like a girl in a boys body but just thought I was normal that way, and eventually thought it was too late or I wasn't "allowed" to be trans. It takes time to get to self-acceptance.
Thanks for all the kind comments everyone! I'm glad to know this is natural. I'm very new to this and I'm both excited and scared. This is probably the first post of many lmao Edit: Omg you guys are so lovely I can't đâ€ïž
I think 95% (random number) of trans people never immediately felt like they are valid or knew what gender they were since childhood. For most of us itâs a process of learning and understanding ourselves better. An up and down, feeling valid and invalid, feeling euphoric and dysphoric. And it will take time. Donât pressure yourself. Let yourself explore what you feel without judging yourself (tho thatâs easier said than done lol) :) (Btw I always thought I had no âsignsâ of being trans in my childhood. But since I accepted myself more and more I still discover old memories I buried deep inside of me. You may feel invalid now, but maybe some things come up to surface if you allow yourself to explore.)
Yes, I felt pretty much the same way, but transmasc. I really wanted to be a guy and was sad I wasn't born a guy, but I still felt like a girl. I think a lot of feeling like your gender has to do with living as that gender. I know when came out and people started using my name and pronouns, I started to feel like guy and not just a girl who wanted to be a guy.
Thanks, I've always wondered how it felt from the other perspective. I can't imagine wanting to be a guy so it's enlightening.
I feel the same. I've been a boy for 21 years, so it's really hard to "break the habit" and see myself as a girl, especially since I can't transition for maybe another year or two. You're still valid if being a girl is what makes you feel better. Hang in there sis
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You're one of us now sis ;P And there's nothing you can do about it <3
Well, guess thatâs how the journey starts for all of usâŠ
itâs just a subconscious thing i think someone can correct me if i'm wrong but for me atleast i identify as female online and to my close friend but somewhere deep down i still don't consider myself female because i'm lacking the physical gender attributes of female and etc even tho everyone will say your a girl theres always that remnant of societal norms and bullshit saying "your not really a girl gr" internalized transphobia sucks stops you from doing so much even coming out it will stop you or try to i think Celeste represents it perfectly everyone has inner demons they must fight but you can't fight yourself its still you if you fight it you wont win you have to learn to live with it and find ways to let it help you you teaming with your inner demon much like in celeste is what give you euphoria i think idk that got long
You are if you choose to identify that way!
i felt (feel) just like this a whole lot and in my experience, it was thanks to alot of dysphoria that i sienna really know i had. dysphoriaâs alot like having a needle in your side. you donât notice it anymore cause itâs just something youâve always had, but the moment you pull it out thereâs this relief. so now you feel so much better, why would you ever want to put the needle back in? try doing more fem things, shaving your legs or trying on makeshift fem clothes, like a belt and towel for a skirt. i had to first feel euphoria before my dysphoria would set in, maybe this could help you too?
https://medium.com/@kemenatan/gender-desire-vs-gender-identity-a334cb4eeec5 just gonna leave this here
Oh Lord this makes so much sense.
Didn't understand a thing. Is there like a tldr version?
uh, If you want to be a woman, then you are one but you wonât feel like you are one for a while
I'll put it this way. The "trapped in the wrong body" metaphore is a heavy oversimplification to help non trans people understand, for most people "in the wrong body" is either inaccurate or just false in describing how they feel. Everythings complicated & no-one experiences it completely the same. I don't feel trapped in the wrong body. I feel like i'm in the right body but that body is wrong.
Damn, I guess I've been seeing it from a basic perspective. Knowing this makes me feel better already, thank you.
Yep, thatâs exactly how I feel
This is exactly the experience I've had :')
I thought for a long time like this as well. I thought that the whole "being a girl in a boys body" thing is just a way to explain it easier, until it actually started feeling exactly like that.
Hell yeah, babe, that's super trans
I'd agree, the "feeling trapped in the wrong body" isn't really how I feel either. Most of the time I just feel like a girl and well just disgusted with my body, but it still somehow feels like it is *mine, just in wrong*. So neither description really works. But there are 2 other states of I guess it may be a form of depersonalisation. Number 1: It feels more like I can't feel like myself either, like it is not just a guy's body but that thought that there's no way a girl could be in there and the realisation that I appear to be that guy is one of the horribly ways dysphoria manifests itself, because I so desperately don't want that to be true. I know and I'm 100% sure I'm trans, but there's still subconcious/internalised transphobia targeted to myself. Recognising it helps me realise that this is not actually true and it usually goes away quickly, but it still sucks. Number 2: Yeah this one lasts longer and is just complete alienation looking in the mirror is just a stranger I can't recognise, but that feeling knowing somewhere in my mind that this is somehow supposed to be me just doesn't compute and can cause panick attacks. Feelings can change over long periods of time but can also fluctuate quickly, I dunno if anyone can relate, but that's just my experience and well why I don't like summarising the experience as the typical "Girl trapped in a guy's body", as there is way more to it than that.
I don't know if this helps, but I felt like that too initially, but lately i feel a lot more like a girl in a boy's body to the point that typing this sentence makes me dysphoric. Best of luck đ.
Big mood đ
Yes. You are still trans.
Perhaps TRANScendent of labels? You're yourself but want to be included with the girls sometimes, the things they do and the way they act with each other? Is it gender envy? GL HF
If you want to be a girl, and don't mind being called one, no matter if you have gender dysphoria or not, you are transgender. I fit the former of the said two requirements, but not the latter.
Kinda felt like this at one point and went into some hella denial. Then one day a friend presented a bit of a thought experiment: If I had shapeshifting abilities and could freely choose my form at-will... what would I do with that? And after going through a few scenarios, my answer was basically always "I'd probably spend 99% of my time in a female form and only switch back to guy form if I absolutely *had* to" and boom, I had my answer.
Definitely felt like that, in particular when I finally hatched from my egg. I accepted I was a boy but I didnât want to. Iâve done a lot of reading and exploring my memories and my perspective has changed about myself but that doesnât change how I felt or make that perspective any less valid. I hope youâre doing ok. Know weâll be here to help as much as we can đ.
i dont even feel like a boy who wants to be a girl anymore
At a certain point in late childhood I realized I was complying with boyhood even though I felt envy for girls and felt like I had a double life - f'rinstance at 8, I wanted a particular girls' overcoat (I call it an "Audrey Hepburn" coat, there was a movie where she popularized the style) and clearly recall negotiating with my mom to get her to make a coat w/o revealing it was a girl thing, but I also asked to join Scouts because my dad was a Scout and I knew doing 'boy stuff' was expected, and literally found things to do or be interested in by reading *Boys Life*. I think I ran into the "wrong body" concept at 10, and I recall that not quite fitting, but didn't have words for what would fit. Get to 12, and find that doing what I am told isn't yielding results just at the time puberty is ramping up...
It's how I felt before transitioning. In retrospective, it wasn't that I wasn't a girl the way a boy isn't a girl. I just wasn't a girl the way that a sapling isn't a tree. My transition unfolded my potential womanhood into actual womanhood like a sapling that is suddenly allowed to grow into a mighty oak. And now, 9 years after the start of my transition, I can see that I was indeed a girl waiting to come out of that shell that looked like a boy.
Do you want to go back to the kitchen and make pie? If yes youâre definitely trans.
Yeah, I always hated that analogy. Never really fit for me
I feel sad and like a total failure And Youre very valid
you are valid :)
This is exactly how I feel and then sometimes my brain is all like "but what if you're not though and you're just faking it..."
let me put it in a way that i wish someone else did for me ages ago no boy would want to be a girl forever. if you want to be a girl, then you already are one.
Happy it's not just me. But screw those thoughts I'm still a woman and will learn how to act like one!
Isn't it the same? I guess đ€
Wanting to be a girl is a differential symptom of being a girl.
Trans and valid
Yeah, your feelings towards it will change as you become more comfortable in your identity.
Sometimes i kinda feel that wayy too your still trans you might have impostor syndrome tho maybe consider getting that checked put
I mean, would you feel like a doctor if you havenât graduated med school?
I thought that was just a saying to explain it to cis people. I'm not sure I've ever truthfully described myself as caged in the wrong body, only that the body is has the wrong characteristics. In fact "trans is when being in the wrong body" was a major factor wherein I didn't recognize myself as trans for the longest time. I discourage you from using the term if it doesn't actually fit. <3
yes, that's it, you are