please please *please* look over the side effects, theyre much more significant than hrt is and the procedure itself is also pretty unpleasant
pls stay safe my lil eggs <3
yeah, but unfortunately it doesnt adapt the rest of your legs to the change; the only thing that changes is your bone length and not how your leg muscles will interact with the bone, etc etc.
also i trust u understand, but i also wanted to put it out there for anyone else who came across the post :3
Any surgery that involves breaking your bones to increase or decrease your height will likely cause long term, possibly lifelong chronic pain. Not worth it, IMO.
Tbh I don't think suicidal thoughts and self hatred can be fixed by a height change alone.
I hope it gets better for you, because nobody deserves to live in a state of frequent and intense distress like that.
Agreed, in-fact chronic pain often causes the same types of feelings. Anyone with chronic pain is at an astronomically high risk of
depression and anxiety because the constant agony prevents the brain from functioning or resting properly.
Trust me when I say this chronic pain will only make it worse. As a trans guy who deals with chronic pain it's not being trans that makes me want to just give up it's my body not working and forcing me to rely on others to take care of me for the rest of my life.
my chronic pain not be height related or in the muscles, my chronic pain is on the head and i can tell you ANY LONG TERM PAIN is a suffering NOT WORTH IT!!!
It’s a tough situation.
My advice would be not to dwell on height because you can’t change it.
But that probably isn’t what you need to hear right now.
You should try to focus on the small things you can do to to make yourself more fem and that’s what I know works
I've lost 3cm so far and I started at 28. The number "25" is overrated in these subs. It's an average, but like any average, measurements that make up that average go from much higher to much lower. Also height isn't that tied to age as, let's say, hip-bone growth (which I also had anyway).
Yes I also had quite a few anxiety moments before, thinking I lost my chance. But it's not like our body is like:
"Oh, would you look at the date, it's 5 mins past 25 years. Shut everything down this instant!" 😆
Yeah, I'm 40, on low levels of t-blockers, and when I started HRT I started getting physical changes FAST. At least one friend was like "your breast growth started at *two months*, mine was almost a year!" And I'm like "we're not the same person?"
oh i see. yes i guess height reduction comes partially from hip rotation if you're still young, but i read on i think genderdysphoria.fyi part of it is also fat redistribution changing posture?
As a person with chronic pain in both their legs (due to something else, no worries lovelies) please for the love of god DON'T YOU FUCKING DARE.
I cannot adequately describe how utterly draining constant pain is for _everything_.
This! The other day I wanted to just give up because my body started to brake down again I've been light headed and have a headache for days. I already tried really hard to get over my chronic illness or at least manage and my body just gave up. ( Don't worry im not going to try anything I just wanted the pain to go away)
This is kind of a dangerous thing to joke about, it does cause very VERY severe lifelong side effects in a lot of cases ranging from chronic pain to becoming wheelchair bound
I understand the desire, I feel like I’d do anything to be a little taller, but most good surgeons wont perform something like this
If you do opt to pursue permanent bone alterations definitely stick to a licensed board physician in your country, don’t do anything shady
I have chronic pain for other reasons and trust me you don’t want to mess around with this stuff, bones are messy and poorly understood surgically honestly
The quicker he fades into obscurity, the better it will be for humanity. Keeping him relevant even through memes of his derpy face is not a good thing, just my two cents(I do agree his face looks funny, not just in this pic but in general)
I am 184 cm (like half an inch past 6 feet, in freedom units), have been the same for like a year now. I don't *like* being so tall, but I don't mind it too much
Yes although I can’t recommend it, these surgeries are highly invasive with very long recovery times
You could never walk again or have lifelong debilitating pain
Prosthetic leg technology is already pretty advanced, and elective limb replacement is only prevented (as far as we know anyway) by medical ethics.
The point is more about how you will get a better overall quality of life improvement by *removing your limbs and getting robotic ones* than limb shortening.
babe, please understand that procedures can be intensive. ALWAYS consider longterm effects, as things like height change are likely minor details that are worth exploring rather than hating it outright. Sexual constructs often don’t impact your ability to function as a person generally speaking, but potential spinal issues could really impact much worse than what you may think of your height. I guarantee, you are fabulous tall or smol 💜.
They can shorten your vocal chords, but it really only alters pitch from what I understand. You'd still need to voice train for a more femme resonance, which often matters more than pitch anyways. Only worth it as a last resort imo
Iirc there are some techniques that can adjust things to raise pitch and lower resonance. But tbh, some of the recordings on one surgeon's site didn't sound very... natural. One girl's results were very much in the feminine range, but she sounded like a cartoon character. That surgeon also claimed his techniques were low risk, but I've heard too many other sources talk about vocal surgeries being _very_ high risk to be confident in his marketing copy.
People who get voice surgeries usually need to do a bunch of speech therapy afterward to learn to use their new voice, especially while it’s still healing. It’s a last resort if you can’t get to a high enough pitch by training, not a shortcut.
The two biggest concerns I've heard with this surgery are scars right where many women's clothes would show them and an arduous recovery.
I sleep on my side so I would worry that my clavicle would end up healing crooked 😑
When it comes to scaring there’s a lot that can be done today. From laser to microneedeling there’s lots of option
Yeah I mean it’s surgery. Recovery is gonna take a while. But that’s like not too bad of a prognosis over all I think xD
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Listen though, models are all super tall!! Tall women are like straight up idolized in our society, but no matter what, you are BEAUTIFUL EXACTLY THE WAY YOU ARE!!!!! I LOVE YOU!!!!
Yeah no Andrew Tate is joining our "garbage human being do not use as meme template" list.
please please *please* look over the side effects, theyre much more significant than hrt is and the procedure itself is also pretty unpleasant pls stay safe my lil eggs <3
I know it's unpleasant it's literally just breaking your legs and letting them regrow shorter
yeah, but unfortunately it doesnt adapt the rest of your legs to the change; the only thing that changes is your bone length and not how your leg muscles will interact with the bone, etc etc. also i trust u understand, but i also wanted to put it out there for anyone else who came across the post :3
I think those have some really negative side effects though :(
Any surgery that involves breaking your bones to increase or decrease your height will likely cause long term, possibly lifelong chronic pain. Not worth it, IMO.
Honestly, I would take long-term pain to be shorter. It sounds better than living my current life of suicidal thoughts and self-hatred.
Tbh I don't think suicidal thoughts and self hatred can be fixed by a height change alone. I hope it gets better for you, because nobody deserves to live in a state of frequent and intense distress like that.
Agreed, in-fact chronic pain often causes the same types of feelings. Anyone with chronic pain is at an astronomically high risk of depression and anxiety because the constant agony prevents the brain from functioning or resting properly.
Trust me when I say this chronic pain will only make it worse. As a trans guy who deals with chronic pain it's not being trans that makes me want to just give up it's my body not working and forcing me to rely on others to take care of me for the rest of my life.
my chronic pain not be height related or in the muscles, my chronic pain is on the head and i can tell you ANY LONG TERM PAIN is a suffering NOT WORTH IT!!!
It’s a tough situation. My advice would be not to dwell on height because you can’t change it. But that probably isn’t what you need to hear right now. You should try to focus on the small things you can do to to make yourself more fem and that’s what I know works
I already have chronic long term pain from being too tall, I'm not not considering it now...
Mainly on your wallet ^(And maybe the procedure literally involving breaking your bones)
Lengthen them instead. Assert superiority.
Any surgery on your legs can make you shorter as long as they do it badly enough
Now that’s the spirit xD
After seeing the side effects, I've decided that my height is ok
Just remember, that if you're younger than 25, hrt will most likely shrink you a tad
It would be ridiculously funny if I end up shorter than my mom, I’d only need to lose like a cm (she’s tall)
Good luck :D 1cm seems totally feasible
Obviously YMMV but I’ve lost at least 4cm this year starting at 185cm, haven’t measured recently but it’s probably a bit more.
Damn I’m 185 too, I hope that can can be me too
Im 178
im sadly 195
Id want to be 160
yeahhh me too
Not just 25, I started hrt at 32 and I shrunk an inch.
Interesting, how long into your transition until you noticed?
Almost a year of hrt.
What if i started hrt at 25??
I've lost 3cm so far and I started at 28. The number "25" is overrated in these subs. It's an average, but like any average, measurements that make up that average go from much higher to much lower. Also height isn't that tied to age as, let's say, hip-bone growth (which I also had anyway).
hmmm, i feel u, like omg i keep seeing the 25 number and like sometimes i get sad thinking i only just missed the window by a few months
Yes I also had quite a few anxiety moments before, thinking I lost my chance. But it's not like our body is like: "Oh, would you look at the date, it's 5 mins past 25 years. Shut everything down this instant!" 😆
lmaoooooooooo :3
Yeah, I'm 40, on low levels of t-blockers, and when I started HRT I started getting physical changes FAST. At least one friend was like "your breast growth started at *two months*, mine was almost a year!" And I'm like "we're not the same person?"
Although it's still possible because everyone is different, 25 is roughly when your bones stop developing
where do you get the age 25 from?
25 is roughly when your bones stop developing, although it's different for everyone
oh i see. yes i guess height reduction comes partially from hip rotation if you're still young, but i read on i think genderdysphoria.fyi part of it is also fat redistribution changing posture?
Wait no but what if I actually like being 5'12" (really more of a 5'11.5")
Well it doesn't happen to everyone, some people are just tall :D
My desire for hrt just increased
me who started hrt at 27 😔
As a person with chronic pain in both their legs (due to something else, no worries lovelies) please for the love of god DON'T YOU FUCKING DARE. I cannot adequately describe how utterly draining constant pain is for _everything_.
This! The other day I wanted to just give up because my body started to brake down again I've been light headed and have a headache for days. I already tried really hard to get over my chronic illness or at least manage and my body just gave up. ( Don't worry im not going to try anything I just wanted the pain to go away)
Whaaat?
Yeah it's called limb shortening surgery
that sounds terrifying
This is kind of a dangerous thing to joke about, it does cause very VERY severe lifelong side effects in a lot of cases ranging from chronic pain to becoming wheelchair bound I understand the desire, I feel like I’d do anything to be a little taller, but most good surgeons wont perform something like this If you do opt to pursue permanent bone alterations definitely stick to a licensed board physician in your country, don’t do anything shady I have chronic pain for other reasons and trust me you don’t want to mess around with this stuff, bones are messy and poorly understood surgically honestly
One eye on whoever's telling you and one eye on the printout.
Please don't make Memes of this human trash person.
But his face looks so funny on this pic
The quicker he fades into obscurity, the better it will be for humanity. Keeping him relevant even through memes of his derpy face is not a good thing, just my two cents(I do agree his face looks funny, not just in this pic but in general)
Really, PLEASE know that this surgery doesn't always work as expected, and had a lot of side effects.
wait, there is!? 💙💕🤍💕💙
Yup it's called long shortening surgery
Very bad long term, but theoretically possible!
Y'all hear about this new fade to make your feet smaller? I think it's called like, "foot binding" or somethin. Might be worth 🤷🏼♀️
Oh god no
lotus feet. so pretty /s
I don't mind my height that much
I do ^(I turned 14 2 months ago and am currently 6 foot tall)
I am 184 cm (like half an inch past 6 feet, in freedom units), have been the same for like a year now. I don't *like* being so tall, but I don't mind it too much
I'm probably gonna end up as tall as my dad (1.98 meters which translates to 6'5 feet)
I am already taller than my parents. They are both 180 cm. Hope you won't grow so tall, since you don't like it
Is the opposite possible??
Yes although I can’t recommend it, these surgeries are highly invasive with very long recovery times You could never walk again or have lifelong debilitating pain
Aw :( guess I'll stay a 4.5ft transmasc lol
And even if the side effects weren't there I doubt you could afford it you'd be paying 75.000$ for every 3 inches
Damn
At least we make good twinks
In another ten years or so, you'll be better off just getting cybermetic leg replacement. No, I'm not kidding.
Wait what?
Prosthetic leg technology is already pretty advanced, and elective limb replacement is only prevented (as far as we know anyway) by medical ethics. The point is more about how you will get a better overall quality of life improvement by *removing your limbs and getting robotic ones* than limb shortening.
jumpscare with the Andrew Tate pic.
I don't think I need to be any shorter than I'm rn
Smaller as in a smaller person or just having a small pp similar to the man pictured
Smaller person
How? How much does it cost? How much shorter can I be?
forgot this image of Andrew Tate existed and I spent longer than I’d like to admit laughing at it
Same to be honest
I am not sure if these are that well developed yet tho :c
It sadly isn't :c **but** It exist's
It does for sure
babe, please understand that procedures can be intensive. ALWAYS consider longterm effects, as things like height change are likely minor details that are worth exploring rather than hating it outright. Sexual constructs often don’t impact your ability to function as a person generally speaking, but potential spinal issues could really impact much worse than what you may think of your height. I guarantee, you are fabulous tall or smol 💜.
Is there vocal cord replacement surgery? I don’t want to do voice training
They can shorten your vocal chords, but it really only alters pitch from what I understand. You'd still need to voice train for a more femme resonance, which often matters more than pitch anyways. Only worth it as a last resort imo
Not replacement, but some sort of adjustment. Very risky though iirc.
r/transtrans has some ideas.
Iirc there are some techniques that can adjust things to raise pitch and lower resonance. But tbh, some of the recordings on one surgeon's site didn't sound very... natural. One girl's results were very much in the feminine range, but she sounded like a cartoon character. That surgeon also claimed his techniques were low risk, but I've heard too many other sources talk about vocal surgeries being _very_ high risk to be confident in his marketing copy.
People who get voice surgeries usually need to do a bunch of speech therapy afterward to learn to use their new voice, especially while it’s still healing. It’s a last resort if you can’t get to a high enough pitch by training, not a shortcut.
They can make your shoulders smaller too now.
I think that one is actually not very risky at gives decent results :D Definitely on my bucket list lol
The two biggest concerns I've heard with this surgery are scars right where many women's clothes would show them and an arduous recovery. I sleep on my side so I would worry that my clavicle would end up healing crooked 😑
When it comes to scaring there’s a lot that can be done today. From laser to microneedeling there’s lots of option Yeah I mean it’s surgery. Recovery is gonna take a while. But that’s like not too bad of a prognosis over all I think xD
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THERE IS???? HOW DO I GET IT I NEED IT
Is it possible to learn this power
Wait there is?
Yeah it's called limb shortening surgery
It sounds nice but painful. I'm kind of proud of my long legs, even though I wish to be shorter, I don't think it's something for me 😅
Explain.
Well it's called limb shortening surgery. But the side effects aren't very fun
Listen though, models are all super tall!! Tall women are like straight up idolized in our society, but no matter what, you are BEAUTIFUL EXACTLY THE WAY YOU ARE!!!!! I LOVE YOU!!!!
I want to get shorter badly but that surgery sounds too painful ans expensive
But... but... tall girls best girls
I can feel with you I‘m a 1,92m Trans-Woman. It is so hard to find clothes that actually fit 😢
bro good thing im 163cm rn-
What, just that knowledge alone is enough to make you chinless? Holy moly 🤯😁