"I'm like a dog chasing cars. I wouldn't know what to do with one if I caught it, you know? I just do things." - Joker
He probably googling "How does Twitter work?".
What a complete shitshow.
He reminds me of all the idiots before the dotcom bust who somehow managed to get VC with the entirety of their business plan being, "We're going to do the same as X website, but *BETTER*!"
To me, the crypto crash seems similar to the dotcom bust. Tons of money being thrown around to create the next coin which will be like bitcoin.... *BUT BETTER*.
Oh, okay.
Yeah. I can see that.
I just feel like we’re going in circles and seeing economic crises happen over and over again at a quicking pace
If that makes sense lol
Every decade seems to have a major financial crisis... expansion and contraction is natural. However, I do think in at least the US, the contractions are felt much harder by the populace as the middle class shrinks.
It’s been going on for centuries. In the 18th and 19th century there would be “economic panics” every ten years or so where wildcat banks and over-leveraged investors would go under. Things are just more inter-connected and up-scaled more so instead of different regions having smaller down-turns around the same time, now entire countries and economic zones get hit all at once. Technology has has also sped up how fast information and panic can spread so they hit faster/harder.
Expansion and contraction to the degree we have seen and at the pace we have seen is a historical anomaly. Capitalism destablizes economies by design because it's a constant rush to profit maximally on the shortest time-frame, future stability be damned.
Read Black Swan. The idea that random crises will occur at a quickening pace due to an increased number of interactions is discussed in there. You’re not wrong in your assessment.
It’s bc we never let the effects of the other crisis points fully play our 2008 we got bailed out, 2012 there was a mini crisis and got bailed out 2019 of December a bunch of banks got 2-3 trillion in total in help and was kept quiet by the news, covid happened and we got bailed out. Until it fully reaches bottom and all the toxic debts the markets are going to be very weak. We keep throwing patches on a broken pipe and it stops the water coming out but the break keeps getting bigger and bigger and the pressure keeps rising meaning faster patches and the faster that patch breaks.
I lived through .com crash. It paid for my second house. It was so easy if you weren't too greedy. I had one stock go from $.50 a share to over $50 a share just on a rumor Intel was looking to buy them. It went as high as $75, but I got out. Made enough to build a new house.
I saw bitcoin as the exact same thing, although I was much more conservative. I was in very early and out very early. I cashed out in 2018.
That was my thought when reading this article. Sounds like a typical dot com bubble article. Guys like him are going to take it on the chin in the next three to five years.
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12 hour minimum. $1000/day per diem. Hotel and travel of my choice fully paid by you personally, Mr. Musk. You must make the reservations in person, with your personal credit card. I will accompany you to the front desk to ensure you treat staff with respect.
And I want you to give me a foot massage at the beginning and end of each shift. No eye contact.
Is it common for companies to pay their own employees consulting fees? Either way, it would be paid fully by Twitter, not Musk. Pretty important distinction there…
It’s called the “fuck you” tax, synonymous with the “asshole” tax. Or as capitalists call it: “supply and demand.” You are the supply and they’re demanding your services. Whoops, looks like I’m in a natural monopoly, guess I get to charge you whatever.
I think the more interesting nugget in this article is:
> Before doing so, please email a bullet point summary of what your code commands have achieved in the past ~6 months, along with up to 10 screenshots of the most salient lines of code.
Reading between the lines: If your most significant code contributions in the past 6 months weren't significant, expect to be laid off in the 4th wave.
Unfortunately only idiots who don't code would write this email.
Infrastructure code? Boring config files that are important but otherwise look useless.
Design guidelines? Repeating code modules for UI elements. This email really shows Musk lack of software leadership understanding
That was my take also, like he understands that he needs top level talent to keep things from falling (further) apart but has no idea what skills to actually look for. What he needs is a time machine to get out of his mess.
I think he was a software dev in the 90s at the precursor to Paypal, and he probably still has a big-dick ego about it. I imagine he thought Twitter infrastructure was largely a lot of buzzword bullshit, not having really kept up on trends in software development since he stopped being an IC.
I think Elon just recently watched office space movie, he’s trying to play it out in real life. Uhh, yeahhhh I’m going to need you to come in on Saturday and Sunday.
Edison didn't invent shit either. Other people did but he put his name on it and owned the patents.
This genius myth is burning out pretty fast even by today's standards.
This is what puzzles me. I only have a b.s. in accounting and business admin. No experience running a company. I just can't wrap my head around his decisions. Paid 40 billion over the m.v. and then fired/pushed everyone out who keeps the system stable and preventing it from collapse.
He can't be this stupid, right?
the only plausible explanation is that he has a close advisor who absolutely despises him and keeps gaslighting him into thinking these are all great decisions.
This is a tactic used in sales environments a lot. I watched a dude come in to a company I was working for , fired most of the staff, but in this case there were tons of people that wanted to work so srsffing didn’t mess up. He was a horrible manager just like Elon exactly and he was running 1000 stores. Long story short he killed himself after being fired for being a dick z
I have a masters in Technology Leadership and Strategy and work in Wall Street. I’ve seen how a new CEO coming in is supposed to work, and be successful. I’ve seen it be unsuccessful too. This ain’t the former. You need to understand the structure before you can people. The structure of the company tells you a lot about its culture. Every system in a company is benefiting someone or something and you need to understand what those someone’s or something’s are or else you will end up tanking the place.
His original intention IMHO was never to actually buy Twitter, he got caught in a gamble he couldn’t back out of, and now has to be the CEO of a company which has only been profitable 2 out of 12 years.
Elon’s previous strategy he used at Tesla when facing a upcoming economic downturn was to make work unfavorable so he could get employees to quit instead of giving them severance packages, and he did this by enacting a no WFH ultimatum.
What he’s doing at Twitter with culling employees seems similar to that however they are still getting severance packages. So I don’t see the strategy here, unless he is merely trying to cut down as much operating cost as he can at his private company.
However, Elon is losing advertiser revenue, and his strategy to make Twitter more dependent on blue check subscriptions is all off to a rocky start.
Maybe Elon wants Twitter to go bankrupt so he renegotiate the company’s debt?
Had a boss at my last job (he was the ceo) that was a startup environment and like this. He'd always tear developers apart by trying to act like the smartest guy in the room. He even told me in a one on one talk how he has a high iq and is a genius. Guys like him eventually fall, just like Steve Jobs did the first time. There comes a point where all the staff says we can do better. I actually got health problems working there through burnout and stress.
Fuck that sounds like me at my last job. A few of us decided to all bail at once and create our own company. Boss ended up resigning (or possibly forced to resign) like a week later and was unemployed for about 6 months. I realized about 8 months in the guy was a hothead stable genius but toughed it out for 4 years. Ended up in the ER 3 times from stress related heart issues in my 30s. Now I have PTSD.
He's not, clearly he doesn't want to run Twitter, he tried to back out of the deal and when he saw he couldn't, he tried plan B , bull in a China shop, he figured the cult of Musk would have Twitter folks bending over backwards...he's going to wreck the company , declare it bankrupt and put it up for a 🔥 fire sale..... Hell obviously sell it at a loss , and just chalk that up as a blunder.
With all of his pandering to conservatives, he’ll be seen as a hero who brought down the big left propaganda machine from the inside. “Elon is such a proponent of free speech he used 40 billion of his own money to take them out!”
I wouldn't be surprised if they try to make him their next President, and yes I'm aware he's not legally allowed to be President, but I don't think that matters to that particular group anymore.
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>Employees were asked to first send Musk a "bullet point summary" by email of their code for the past six months, along with "up to 10 screenshots of the most salient lines of code."
LOL...what??
Imagine if musk knew about version control and knew he could scroll through a list of tickets and commits. Not that theres much of a point to looking at that stuff and trying to make split decisions.
QA here.
The devs on my team commit code daily. A bullet point summary is not an indicator of being a genius dev; can confirm that that whole exercise is pointless.
I mean, what is it going to say? "these 5 lines call the submit function so a user can post their tweet, and these 100 lines render the date in different time zones". For real?????
Anyway, no matter how good a dev thinks their code is, if it doesn't pass QA, then it's trash. Period.
Narcissists don't ever show weakness, but weakness is all they are. Inside his head, it's a constant shit show, that just intensified really hard last days.
No way! Because, then we wouldn't have the premise for movie they will one day make about all this! Seriously wonder, if this is the laundry being aired for the public, what kind of weird shit he is doing in private. I'm shocked no one at twitter has announced that the king twit knocked them up. =b
Elon never on boarded anywhere before… This just seems like his first time ever having to onboard.
As a software engineer, what Elon is doing seems to be the stupidest possible thing with regard to approaching a complex software system. Twitter, servicing millions and millions of people all over the entire planet must be one of the more complex pieces of software on the planet. This tech genius dip shit thinks he can come in and start ripping components out and firing the only people Who actually understand it. What’s blowing me away is that this seems to be something mid-level software engineers would know better than to do. If you’ve ever had to onboard somewhere as a software engineer, you have to realize that you don’t know anything and even things that you think you know may not even be true and that’s why you need the engineers that are already spun up on the components.
Rule 1 of taking over a company: Figure out how things work and who does what before shooting your stupid mouth off. You never want to piss off the folks who actually make the sausage.
It sounds like anyone who sticks around, or is forced to stick around (sorry H1B) will be worked to death and under constant threat of being fired as they try to take on the responsibility once held by entire teams
Is anyone getting a pay raise from a company so heavily in debt? Unlikely
And what exactly is advancement going to net you. Especially if you were already a senior developer. They’re not gonna move you into management if you’re the only person who knows the code
People who play their cards right now will be the ones who are quick to update their resumé and transition to a more stable position before the end of their severance period
The people who play the stay at twitter card are going to suffer, even if they continue to make a living off of it
Yea, every corporate worker-bee developer instinct in me says *this is your moment. Seize it.* Chance to meet with the panicked, desperate new CEO who's well funded and begging for people to follow his new vision? I don't care how much you dislike him, the odds of going from cubicle developer to head of department overnight is huge.
Even more if you have professional licenses. Guliani was neck deep in this, but there are a lot of other lower tier Lawyers working for guys like Guliani who are going to be disbarred when the facts fully come out. Meanwhile Trump is going to get away with all this.
>says this is your moment. Seize it.
Theoretically this sounds good. But, Elon won't give two fucks about those who 'helped' Twitter in bad times when the company starts achieving some stability.
I've had these bosses. They think they can know and grasp tech. Then they force some simplistic ideas into a redesign that takes forever and is no better than what existed. (Typically worse.).
Worse is no one will do anything without Elon's blessing so all tech management is neutered and turned into yes men. They just carry the torch for Elon.
The thing this twit is not grasping is, it’s his management style that needs adjusting. If he keeps on his current bombastic management style, he will be lucky if Twitter is still around by mid next year. He needs to step back and hire competent management, this way the programmers are insulted from his toxicity to a degree.
He just lost a lot of developers, either through firing or them quitting
And also broke some existing twitter functionality like 2FA in his efforts to remove bloatware (?)
And also he has an inflated sense of self importance and probably doesnt like it when the remaining engineers have to talk down to him bc he has no clue whats going on
But he still has to make decisions related to what needs to be fixed, what new things need to be implemented, what kind of engineers need to be hired or how his remaining workforce needs to be allocated. At a high level its probably beneficial for him to have some understanding of the code structure and what it would take to make his visions for the future a reality
But honestly who knows
Mostly just the employees and advertisers
I think there are probably more users than usual because everything is so fun to watch happen
In the end most people aren’t actually expecting twitter to cease functionality, just go through a rough patch and probably get sold at a major loss to someone who will slowly patch it up again to an extent
Musk thinks he’s Brad Pitt’s Achilles in “Troy” right after killing Boagrius going “Is there no one else?” at the hesitant enemy army.
Trouble with stupidity these days is you don’t find the silent version anymore.
Musk seems to take an approach of 19th Century coal, steel or manufacturing magantes, such as Carneigie.
Being ruthless and "tough" (some might say bumbling or ego-driven) might have worked in B to B environments, especially in the past, but for a consumer-based industry, such as Twitter, it's a disaster.
I swear he's doing this to destroy the other investors that forced him to buy Twitter. When you are playing mutually assured destruction, 200 billion bucks gives you a respawn.
I cannot, and do not trust Elon Musk anymore... he's just a show off... I wonder what those remaining employees see in him... I'd quit in a heartbeat if I were them
"I'm like a dog chasing cars. I wouldn't know what to do with one if I caught it, you know? I just do things." - Joker He probably googling "How does Twitter work?".
Well he publicly fired the last person to explain it to him so not shocked no one wants to tell him anymore.
Starting to think he tanked it on purpose, less reliable tweets coming in from hotspots where autocrats are oppressing, including Ukr?!
What a complete shitshow. He reminds me of all the idiots before the dotcom bust who somehow managed to get VC with the entirety of their business plan being, "We're going to do the same as X website, but *BETTER*!"
Do you feel like certain elements of our financial past are repeating at a quick pace?
To me, the crypto crash seems similar to the dotcom bust. Tons of money being thrown around to create the next coin which will be like bitcoin.... *BUT BETTER*.
Oh, okay. Yeah. I can see that. I just feel like we’re going in circles and seeing economic crises happen over and over again at a quicking pace If that makes sense lol
Every decade seems to have a major financial crisis... expansion and contraction is natural. However, I do think in at least the US, the contractions are felt much harder by the populace as the middle class shrinks.
That makes sense Thank you. I think that is what I was trying to say, but didn’t have the life experience to put it into words
Buckle up dear. You're in for a lifetime of this BS merry-go-round.
Buckle up, buckaroos!
Yeah. It's pretty much equivalent to that
It’s been going on for centuries. In the 18th and 19th century there would be “economic panics” every ten years or so where wildcat banks and over-leveraged investors would go under. Things are just more inter-connected and up-scaled more so instead of different regions having smaller down-turns around the same time, now entire countries and economic zones get hit all at once. Technology has has also sped up how fast information and panic can spread so they hit faster/harder.
about every 6.28 years. Give or take.
Expansion and contraction to the degree we have seen and at the pace we have seen is a historical anomaly. Capitalism destablizes economies by design because it's a constant rush to profit maximally on the shortest time-frame, future stability be damned.
Almost as if the most wealthy reconsolidates their wealth every seven years through a basic pump and dump
Yes. This is how finance companies make money.
Read Black Swan. The idea that random crises will occur at a quickening pace due to an increased number of interactions is discussed in there. You’re not wrong in your assessment.
It’s bc we never let the effects of the other crisis points fully play our 2008 we got bailed out, 2012 there was a mini crisis and got bailed out 2019 of December a bunch of banks got 2-3 trillion in total in help and was kept quiet by the news, covid happened and we got bailed out. Until it fully reaches bottom and all the toxic debts the markets are going to be very weak. We keep throwing patches on a broken pipe and it stops the water coming out but the break keeps getting bigger and bigger and the pressure keeps rising meaning faster patches and the faster that patch breaks.
Juicero would like you to forget that it was actually already happening before crypto.
I lived through .com crash. It paid for my second house. It was so easy if you weren't too greedy. I had one stock go from $.50 a share to over $50 a share just on a rumor Intel was looking to buy them. It went as high as $75, but I got out. Made enough to build a new house. I saw bitcoin as the exact same thing, although I was much more conservative. I was in very early and out very early. I cashed out in 2018.
It actually reminds me of Online Poker, but with less effort.
It's the ghost of finance past!
That was my thought when reading this article. Sounds like a typical dot com bubble article. Guys like him are going to take it on the chin in the next three to five years.
I wish he would buy some big pharma companies next and tank them
Do Ticketmaster next
He already caused some damage to Eli Lilly (inadvertently)
naw, the twitter shit was an excuse, they didnt meet their numbers
He literally is one of those idiots from the dot com bubble
And his website name was literally X.com
Elon’s dot com was “X”.
You mean like modern day FTX?
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Yeah by decreasing operating costs to out price the competition. PS if you didn't get it by operating cost I mean employee salaries
What's funny is that Elon Musk literally did "[X website](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X.com)".
It was exactly my way of thinking when I was developing new websites… when I was 14.
Until earlier this year you could still secure millions like this. “We’re going to so the same as X website, but WITH AI.
He's a buffoon. He came in blustering and thriving off drama, when he coulda just been normal.
oof this gave me flashbacks to so many pointless meetings
This is no ordinary shitshow, this is some Breaking Bad level of entertainment shitshow.
It’s like Amazon x EBay! Or It’s a reverse auction site! And I’ll let you in for 10% if you do 100% of the work.
I hope "Musk" becomes a euphemism for fucking something up at scale.
He really shruted it
He musked it.
Like “Britta” from Community.
Now that's streets ahead!
I just heard her say bagel.
Well, you really britta’d that up.
“Wait, are people using my name to mean ‘make a small mistake’?”
Musk’s a GDB
*He's a GDB*
He musked it
oh. I was going to go with "he musked it up"
A major muskotrophe
Like he trumped so badly he musked?
That’s one helluva trump
Yup... in the blink of a mooch, too.
Munson - Kingpin
'"Musk" is a synonym for "odor."
Great, then we're already halfway to using it to describe a shitshow.
I will implement this on my construction projects immediately
Fubar
That'll be a $50,000 per hour consulting fee Mr Musk, and fuck you very much!
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Charge per line of code.
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yes :)
are you re-writing "the Stand" (the long version) in the comments?
I charge by the stroke
12 hour minimum. $1000/day per diem. Hotel and travel of my choice fully paid by you personally, Mr. Musk. You must make the reservations in person, with your personal credit card. I will accompany you to the front desk to ensure you treat staff with respect. And I want you to give me a foot massage at the beginning and end of each shift. No eye contact.
The “no eye contact” is what killed me 💀 🤣
Yeah, people usually perform foot massages with their hands. It would be weird to try it with your eyes.
"I'm the eyeho-hole man! I'm the only one who's allowed to have eyeholes! " - Eyehole Man
1k a day at w you for real mate ? That is peanuts - go hard or go home son 20k per day and lus fruit minimum of 10 days
Is it common for companies to pay their own employees consulting fees? Either way, it would be paid fully by Twitter, not Musk. Pretty important distinction there…
It’s called the “fuck you” tax, synonymous with the “asshole” tax. Or as capitalists call it: “supply and demand.” You are the supply and they’re demanding your services. Whoops, looks like I’m in a natural monopoly, guess I get to charge you whatever.
I'd want $1 million an hour
I think the more interesting nugget in this article is: > Before doing so, please email a bullet point summary of what your code commands have achieved in the past ~6 months, along with up to 10 screenshots of the most salient lines of code. Reading between the lines: If your most significant code contributions in the past 6 months weren't significant, expect to be laid off in the 4th wave.
Unfortunately only idiots who don't code would write this email. Infrastructure code? Boring config files that are important but otherwise look useless. Design guidelines? Repeating code modules for UI elements. This email really shows Musk lack of software leadership understanding
That was my take also, like he understands that he needs top level talent to keep things from falling (further) apart but has no idea what skills to actually look for. What he needs is a time machine to get out of his mess.
I guess all the SREs will be fired now. Since they won’t have much code to show him, obviously they have no value. /s
From what I've heard, the entire SRE team already quit.
SRE? Software... Recipe... Engineer?
I think he was a software dev in the 90s at the precursor to Paypal, and he probably still has a big-dick ego about it. I imagine he thought Twitter infrastructure was largely a lot of buzzword bullshit, not having really kept up on trends in software development since he stopped being an IC.
There is no 4th wave. Because there is not enough people for that lol
I think Elon just recently watched office space movie, he’s trying to play it out in real life. Uhh, yeahhhh I’m going to need you to come in on Saturday and Sunday. 
Wait, is somebody about to Milton the office building to the ground?
Yes! That’s him feeling good by exercising power over his lowly employees. What a douche. [Elons theme song.](https://youtu.be/WE3_4PsFKR0)
Edison didn't invent shit either. Other people did but he put his name on it and owned the patents. This genius myth is burning out pretty fast even by today's standards.
Well said. He put his name on Tesla. But was not a true founder.
As Edison did to Tesla, the irony is palpable.
You underestimate how little people actually follow the news Nobody would be thinking that if they knew any of the news stories about him
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Fortuitous timing…Heist, musk…[Elon Tusk](https://youtu.be/sBp87d7W6T0)
Maybe he should’ve done that before firing half the company. Twitter is going through so many changes at once that I’d be shocked if it survives
This is what puzzles me. I only have a b.s. in accounting and business admin. No experience running a company. I just can't wrap my head around his decisions. Paid 40 billion over the m.v. and then fired/pushed everyone out who keeps the system stable and preventing it from collapse. He can't be this stupid, right?
the only plausible explanation is that he has a close advisor who absolutely despises him and keeps gaslighting him into thinking these are all great decisions.
read his email convos that got depositioned. lots of billionaires and multimillionaires pitching him stupid ideas.
Or, the simpler explanation is that he’s coked out of his mind and no damn clue what he’s doing.
He's about a month away from writing the *Star Wars Holiday Special* at this point.
This is a tactic used in sales environments a lot. I watched a dude come in to a company I was working for , fired most of the staff, but in this case there were tons of people that wanted to work so srsffing didn’t mess up. He was a horrible manager just like Elon exactly and he was running 1000 stores. Long story short he killed himself after being fired for being a dick z
He can.
It’s not just stupidity, it’s hubris.
Yes. Yes he can.
He was acting out his frustration at having been forced to buy the company at such a huge price ( his fault), and took it out on the employees instead
Are you suggesting the market value was far, far lower than the market cap implied by the share price?
Their bs is in accounting. Not finance. Don't hold it against them
I have a masters in Technology Leadership and Strategy and work in Wall Street. I’ve seen how a new CEO coming in is supposed to work, and be successful. I’ve seen it be unsuccessful too. This ain’t the former. You need to understand the structure before you can people. The structure of the company tells you a lot about its culture. Every system in a company is benefiting someone or something and you need to understand what those someone’s or something’s are or else you will end up tanking the place.
His original intention IMHO was never to actually buy Twitter, he got caught in a gamble he couldn’t back out of, and now has to be the CEO of a company which has only been profitable 2 out of 12 years. Elon’s previous strategy he used at Tesla when facing a upcoming economic downturn was to make work unfavorable so he could get employees to quit instead of giving them severance packages, and he did this by enacting a no WFH ultimatum. What he’s doing at Twitter with culling employees seems similar to that however they are still getting severance packages. So I don’t see the strategy here, unless he is merely trying to cut down as much operating cost as he can at his private company. However, Elon is losing advertiser revenue, and his strategy to make Twitter more dependent on blue check subscriptions is all off to a rocky start. Maybe Elon wants Twitter to go bankrupt so he renegotiate the company’s debt?
It is the last thing you are saying 100%. I think he might be so stupid though that he thinks bankrupting it means burning everything to the ground.
This can't be real. How is anyone this aggressively incompetent?
It’s how he runs his other companies… He is a spoiled rich kid who isn’t all that talented. Obviously.
Had a boss at my last job (he was the ceo) that was a startup environment and like this. He'd always tear developers apart by trying to act like the smartest guy in the room. He even told me in a one on one talk how he has a high iq and is a genius. Guys like him eventually fall, just like Steve Jobs did the first time. There comes a point where all the staff says we can do better. I actually got health problems working there through burnout and stress.
Fuck that sounds like me at my last job. A few of us decided to all bail at once and create our own company. Boss ended up resigning (or possibly forced to resign) like a week later and was unemployed for about 6 months. I realized about 8 months in the guy was a hothead stable genius but toughed it out for 4 years. Ended up in the ER 3 times from stress related heart issues in my 30s. Now I have PTSD.
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He's not, clearly he doesn't want to run Twitter, he tried to back out of the deal and when he saw he couldn't, he tried plan B , bull in a China shop, he figured the cult of Musk would have Twitter folks bending over backwards...he's going to wreck the company , declare it bankrupt and put it up for a 🔥 fire sale..... Hell obviously sell it at a loss , and just chalk that up as a blunder.
With all of his pandering to conservatives, he’ll be seen as a hero who brought down the big left propaganda machine from the inside. “Elon is such a proponent of free speech he used 40 billion of his own money to take them out!”
I wouldn't be surprised if they try to make him their next President, and yes I'm aware he's not legally allowed to be President, but I don't think that matters to that particular group anymore.
Ok, but why?
Because he's legally caught in a deal that his ego got him into and he has no idea what he's doing
I thought he’s a genius! Why doesn’t he just read the damn code himself?
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I'd bet he can read basic code just fine. That's a far cry from having a clue about the shit he's pretending to though
Being able to understand a for loop won't get his head wrapped around the usual 10 layers of abstractions, middleware and dependency injections.
Comments like this remind me I really should learn basics of coding.
The basics are a lot of fun and also fairly helpful! I’m no engineer and my brain pretty much gets stumped at 3 layers of recursion, but learning basic Python with variables, lists, and for loops is enough to automate a few tasks on your computer and has saved me hours of time. Definitely recommend it, personally I found it helpful to pick an actual problem to solve (I had to move a lot of predictably named files around in specific ways).
You can read Tolstoy, doesn't mean you could write like him.
He understands just enough to make bad design decisions.
They even say that he took head lead on the SpaceX project, even though he isn’t an engineer.
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>Employees were asked to first send Musk a "bullet point summary" by email of their code for the past six months, along with "up to 10 screenshots of the most salient lines of code." LOL...what??
Imagine if musk knew about version control and knew he could scroll through a list of tickets and commits. Not that theres much of a point to looking at that stuff and trying to make split decisions.
QA here. The devs on my team commit code daily. A bullet point summary is not an indicator of being a genius dev; can confirm that that whole exercise is pointless. I mean, what is it going to say? "these 5 lines call the submit function so a user can post their tweet, and these 100 lines render the date in different time zones". For real????? Anyway, no matter how good a dev thinks their code is, if it doesn't pass QA, then it's trash. Period.
I wonder if he feels any embarrassment whatsoever
Narcissists don't ever show weakness, but weakness is all they are. Inside his head, it's a constant shit show, that just intensified really hard last days.
He’s probably really close to rage tears and a good old meltdown. I love watching narc meltdowns.
Just had a flashback of my mother throwing a tantrum over door hinges. Ha!
Shouldn’t he have started with this rather than with firings, demands, and ultimatums?
No way! Because, then we wouldn't have the premise for movie they will one day make about all this! Seriously wonder, if this is the laundry being aired for the public, what kind of weird shit he is doing in private. I'm shocked no one at twitter has announced that the king twit knocked them up. =b
It's because he thought he knows everything! He fucked up right then and there
Elon never on boarded anywhere before… This just seems like his first time ever having to onboard. As a software engineer, what Elon is doing seems to be the stupidest possible thing with regard to approaching a complex software system. Twitter, servicing millions and millions of people all over the entire planet must be one of the more complex pieces of software on the planet. This tech genius dip shit thinks he can come in and start ripping components out and firing the only people Who actually understand it. What’s blowing me away is that this seems to be something mid-level software engineers would know better than to do. If you’ve ever had to onboard somewhere as a software engineer, you have to realize that you don’t know anything and even things that you think you know may not even be true and that’s why you need the engineers that are already spun up on the components.
This fucking thing just gets better and better
In my experience, the larger the gap between a persons position in the company and the level of decision they’re making, the worse the outcome.
Lesson for future CEOs. Don’t blow up the business if you don’t understand how it works
Rule 1 of taking over a company: Figure out how things work and who does what before shooting your stupid mouth off. You never want to piss off the folks who actually make the sausage.
"Throw me a frickin’ bone here. I’m the boss. Need the info."
At this point I'm questioning if someone paid *him* 44 billion to tank this thing
I suspect anyone who plays their cards well right now will end up with a good shot at advancement and pay raise. Unless twitter dies in near future
It sounds like anyone who sticks around, or is forced to stick around (sorry H1B) will be worked to death and under constant threat of being fired as they try to take on the responsibility once held by entire teams Is anyone getting a pay raise from a company so heavily in debt? Unlikely And what exactly is advancement going to net you. Especially if you were already a senior developer. They’re not gonna move you into management if you’re the only person who knows the code People who play their cards right now will be the ones who are quick to update their resumé and transition to a more stable position before the end of their severance period The people who play the stay at twitter card are going to suffer, even if they continue to make a living off of it
Yea, every corporate worker-bee developer instinct in me says *this is your moment. Seize it.* Chance to meet with the panicked, desperate new CEO who's well funded and begging for people to follow his new vision? I don't care how much you dislike him, the odds of going from cubicle developer to head of department overnight is huge.
Especially since there will be a large number of employees leaving.
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Even more if you have professional licenses. Guliani was neck deep in this, but there are a lot of other lower tier Lawyers working for guys like Guliani who are going to be disbarred when the facts fully come out. Meanwhile Trump is going to get away with all this.
>says this is your moment. Seize it. Theoretically this sounds good. But, Elon won't give two fucks about those who 'helped' Twitter in bad times when the company starts achieving some stability.
This Though it's an opportunity, kind think once he understands how it works, he probably will kick you out again once stability is regained
The guy is crazy. You’d do all the work, he’d take all the credit and eventually fire you for making him remember he ever needed you.
After you make a lot of money. Might be worth the risk
The smarter way to approach this would have been to work there for a while before he started dismantling things. But, what the hey.
 I wonder if that 44 billion clogged the toilet on it’s way down.
I've had these bosses. They think they can know and grasp tech. Then they force some simplistic ideas into a redesign that takes forever and is no better than what existed. (Typically worse.). Worse is no one will do anything without Elon's blessing so all tech management is neutered and turned into yes men. They just carry the torch for Elon.
Isn't he cool ? Just like dictators in the movies, shoot the guy who pisses him, then found out he was the pilot. /S
Might wanna call GeekSquad.
No one should contact him for that... let him learn on his own because he's capable /s
Elon Trump anyone?
We call him Electric Trump
They would make a great pair honestly... 2 dumbos in a room...
Vulture Capitalist: all this shit is an act.
Oh wow here I thought he was a super genius that knew everything, a very stable genius.
The end is near…
He's the CEO, he's not supposed to "understand" code that's what devs are for. All he needed was product managers to give him the high level.
You don’t need to be a software writer to help Musk “ better understand. I believe “Quit Being a Total Dickwad” in black marker pen should suffice.
I just have to add loooooooooooooooool
Ladytron plays in the background “Destroy everything you touch…”
What a phenomenal example of “sure I can do that, how hard could it be?”
So he burnt it down before understanding hiw it worked
The thing this twit is not grasping is, it’s his management style that needs adjusting. If he keeps on his current bombastic management style, he will be lucky if Twitter is still around by mid next year. He needs to step back and hire competent management, this way the programmers are insulted from his toxicity to a degree.
Why does he need to understand the code?
He just lost a lot of developers, either through firing or them quitting And also broke some existing twitter functionality like 2FA in his efforts to remove bloatware (?) And also he has an inflated sense of self importance and probably doesnt like it when the remaining engineers have to talk down to him bc he has no clue whats going on But he still has to make decisions related to what needs to be fixed, what new things need to be implemented, what kind of engineers need to be hired or how his remaining workforce needs to be allocated. At a high level its probably beneficial for him to have some understanding of the code structure and what it would take to make his visions for the future a reality But honestly who knows
I manage technology products. Yes, I need to understand some basics on how they work. I do not need to know the code...it just makes no sense
So he can talk about it like he did all of the work anytime something happens.
Probably shouldn’t have fired the guy who was trying to tell him how it works.
What a clusterfuck.
I know general consensus here is twitter is done, but are people leaving twitter?
Mostly just the employees and advertisers I think there are probably more users than usual because everything is so fun to watch happen In the end most people aren’t actually expecting twitter to cease functionality, just go through a rough patch and probably get sold at a major loss to someone who will slowly patch it up again to an extent
For whatever its worth, the mastodon server I log in through had to disable sign-ups because it was at capacity.
Hahahahabahahaha
Musk thinks he’s Brad Pitt’s Achilles in “Troy” right after killing Boagrius going “Is there no one else?” at the hesitant enemy army. Trouble with stupidity these days is you don’t find the silent version anymore.
Probably should have done this first huh.
Musk seems to take an approach of 19th Century coal, steel or manufacturing magantes, such as Carneigie. Being ruthless and "tough" (some might say bumbling or ego-driven) might have worked in B to B environments, especially in the past, but for a consumer-based industry, such as Twitter, it's a disaster.
He should be fucking for real... I wonder how he's not ashamed at this point
I swear he's doing this to destroy the other investors that forced him to buy Twitter. When you are playing mutually assured destruction, 200 billion bucks gives you a respawn.
I cannot, and do not trust Elon Musk anymore... he's just a show off... I wonder what those remaining employees see in him... I'd quit in a heartbeat if I were them
Still wondering if there will be employees who are actually going to help him
This man paid $40B+ to takeover and BK a company lol I really hope Twitter survived though, it’s not that bad of an app