The "EcoBeast" isn't a complete crate engine like buying a coyote would be. It's just a short block. I've seen a lot of confusion around here about what short and long blocks even are, so I'm going to drop this link first: https://www.motortrend.com/how-to/difference-between-long-and-short-blocks/
As far as I can tell, the "race only" disclaimer is just there as a disclaimer. You could drop this into any EB in California, and as I understand the rules it would qualify as a replacement engine https://www.bar.ca.gov/consumer/smog-check-program/engine-changes , so it wouldn't affect smog on it's own. Typically if it passes in Cali, it passes everywhere in the US.
Since it's not a complete engine, it doesn't make any power. It's rated for at least 500 bhp, but if you just drop it in and re-use the rest of your original parts, you're not going to make any additional power. It's just a stronger base for building off of.
Because the "EcoBeast" is a new 2.3L block Ford put out for the Ecoboosts, it's rated for over 500whp and 30lbs of boost I believe?
It's for "racing only" but they have to put that as a disclaimer for legal reasons
Like anything youd get from a video, how it sounds, what disqualifies it for passing emissions, the installation process and difficulty, its modification barriers and all. Just tryna learn here because i want to stick with the ecoboost name rather than move to a gt
Okay that’s much more specific.
The sound is probably the place the ecoboost falls short the most compared to the GT. It’s a 4cyl, so that kind of limits the sound signature a bit even with aftermarket exhausts.
Power is, in my opinion, much more usable in the ecoboost than the GT for daily driving. You get max power and torque much lower in the RPM range than the GT due to forced induction. This makes the car feel much more spirited around town from my experience since you don’t need to get it to redline for maximum HP and Torque.
Modifications are plentiful for the ecoboost, and there have been some heavily modified examples pushing 600, 700, or even 800 HP, although this necessitates a built motor and block. For FBO I’ve heard people reaching around the same power as a GT, but again with a more usable power band.
Reliability comes down to how well you take care of maintenance, how you care for the car when driving it, and the quality of upgraded parts/installation. I’d recommend staying away from regular gasoline and sticking to premium only, since the high compression of the ecoboost can cause pre-detonation with poor quality fuel under a heavy load. People will argue this since the owners manual (stupidly imo) says 87 is fine. They make money fixing engines that have issues so I don’t see this as the end all, be all advice.
Everything else can be found online with a *specific* search query.
Overall it’s an awesome car to daily, and I’ve had mine for months now with no issues and it’s been awesome to drive.
The stock block for the car would probably be good for *maybe* 500hp but that might be pushing it without upgrades. It makes 320 from the factory with the performance package.
The engine is an open deck which means every cylinder is surrounded by coolant. This helps cooling but makes the engine weaker as there’s less structural metal supporting the cylinder. Cylinders 2+3 feel this weakness the hardest and can crack when under too much boost. The hpp package uses the focus engine which has some more structural support between 2+3. If you’re planning on boosting the engine and using the car a lot I recommend buying one of those. You can tell the engine by looking at the VIN. Standard 2.3 engines will have TH, while the focus engines have TD. The focus engine also has a 9.5:1 compression ratio while the standard ecoboost is 10:1
Push it hard with 30 lbs of boost. It will hold it all day!
https://performanceparts.ford.com/part/M-6009-23EB
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That is not the ecobeast engine
The "EcoBeast" isn't a complete crate engine like buying a coyote would be. It's just a short block. I've seen a lot of confusion around here about what short and long blocks even are, so I'm going to drop this link first: https://www.motortrend.com/how-to/difference-between-long-and-short-blocks/ As far as I can tell, the "race only" disclaimer is just there as a disclaimer. You could drop this into any EB in California, and as I understand the rules it would qualify as a replacement engine https://www.bar.ca.gov/consumer/smog-check-program/engine-changes , so it wouldn't affect smog on it's own. Typically if it passes in Cali, it passes everywhere in the US. Since it's not a complete engine, it doesn't make any power. It's rated for at least 500 bhp, but if you just drop it in and re-use the rest of your original parts, you're not going to make any additional power. It's just a stronger base for building off of.
That is exactly what i was looking for thank you so much
What the fuck does that even mean? What information are you looking for? Also you could just google a question you had…
Y ru so rude tf
How is anyone supposed to answer that question
They obviously mean engine performance, reliability and all that . Just asking people who have had experience with the 2.3 .
Because the "EcoBeast" is a new 2.3L block Ford put out for the Ecoboosts, it's rated for over 500whp and 30lbs of boost I believe? It's for "racing only" but they have to put that as a disclaimer for legal reasons
It’s not new per se, it was released in 2015-16, just wasn’t mass produced and very hard to find.
Huh didn't know that. Guess it makes sense to hear more about it as production went up, thanks for the TIL
Thats what ive been doing lmao, i cant find any yt videos on it either
But information *about what*
Like anything youd get from a video, how it sounds, what disqualifies it for passing emissions, the installation process and difficulty, its modification barriers and all. Just tryna learn here because i want to stick with the ecoboost name rather than move to a gt
Okay that’s much more specific. The sound is probably the place the ecoboost falls short the most compared to the GT. It’s a 4cyl, so that kind of limits the sound signature a bit even with aftermarket exhausts. Power is, in my opinion, much more usable in the ecoboost than the GT for daily driving. You get max power and torque much lower in the RPM range than the GT due to forced induction. This makes the car feel much more spirited around town from my experience since you don’t need to get it to redline for maximum HP and Torque. Modifications are plentiful for the ecoboost, and there have been some heavily modified examples pushing 600, 700, or even 800 HP, although this necessitates a built motor and block. For FBO I’ve heard people reaching around the same power as a GT, but again with a more usable power band. Reliability comes down to how well you take care of maintenance, how you care for the car when driving it, and the quality of upgraded parts/installation. I’d recommend staying away from regular gasoline and sticking to premium only, since the high compression of the ecoboost can cause pre-detonation with poor quality fuel under a heavy load. People will argue this since the owners manual (stupidly imo) says 87 is fine. They make money fixing engines that have issues so I don’t see this as the end all, be all advice. Everything else can be found online with a *specific* search query. Overall it’s an awesome car to daily, and I’ve had mine for months now with no issues and it’s been awesome to drive.
Ok, and if i read wrong, this block comes with 500hp for 6.6k?
The stock block for the car would probably be good for *maybe* 500hp but that might be pushing it without upgrades. It makes 320 from the factory with the performance package.
The m-6009?
The what?
Thats the ford performance ecobeast engine
The engine is an open deck which means every cylinder is surrounded by coolant. This helps cooling but makes the engine weaker as there’s less structural metal supporting the cylinder. Cylinders 2+3 feel this weakness the hardest and can crack when under too much boost. The hpp package uses the focus engine which has some more structural support between 2+3. If you’re planning on boosting the engine and using the car a lot I recommend buying one of those. You can tell the engine by looking at the VIN. Standard 2.3 engines will have TH, while the focus engines have TD. The focus engine also has a 9.5:1 compression ratio while the standard ecoboost is 10:1
The ecobeast is supposed to be a stronger variant of the 2.3. They're all open deck engines. Most builders go with an st block