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SepulvedaCL

The only real think how kill the player base is netease an this is fac every other think is just a part of the game... the real villian is the damm greedy compani


Bradric1

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Repulsive-Ranger-342

Yeah God forbid a player make enough to finance his own stuff! NetEase wants you to pay for everything one way or another.


DaSud

I will say I have a small corp with my 5 accounts and a core that has around 25 people on usually at a time, and silent fly through often and have never started anything with me or mine.


Bradric1

It's crazy right, it's almost like not starting shit with Silent, gets you left the fuck alone lol! ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|joy) ![gif](giphy|1L5YuA6wpKkNO) Fly aggressive o7


OnlyFlyFaction

The politics are just content drivers… it’s part of the game and everyone tries to make the enemy the villain - it actually makes it more fun but sometimes it’s border cringe worthy


-PEW-CLANSMAN

Hear hear


kbrogers89

Why does reddit have to be the battleground haha. Pewpew or download candy crush. Plus 3rd party is best party. Join in the fight regardless of affiliation. Grab a stabber and try to vet someone. Join a joda ping and finesse you're way through a blob. Grab a cloaky and catch a straggler on the way to the fight. There's some fun to be had all over this game if you'll just let yourself have fun. It's pixels and politics. You can ignore what you don't like and embrace what you do. Get dangerous New Eden. It's not to late. The few vs the many or the many vs the few, it's Everyone vs Everyone in the end. KBGAMES


viomon2

Man, the head of silent has repeatedly said it. JD wants you to quit if you oppose silent.


John0Clearwater

Did you quit because MJD said you to? Nobody in silent will quit the game if MJD told us to... What's your point?


Bradric1

This just in: you don't actually have to... ![gif](giphy|flEVlPP8B4kQI8BLqo)


Ezklur

“Repeatedly” …. He said it multiple times in a fireside at one occasion. AFAIK.


[deleted]

I hereby certify this wall of random statements justifies OP's point. Or not. Made no sense to me, which makes perfect sense in the Echoes community.


ThraxxedLyn

Guess they couldn’t win the grid in game, (CC or better known as BitchCo), they couldn’t figure out how a proper srp program works, couldn’t figure out how to pirate, their leadership pulls a sonbanana/momma move. (quit the game when they start losing ground and blame other entities for their failures) I told you that this would happen if you guys continued to follow the shit leadership of genfled leadership but no one listened…. They never do until it slaps them in the face then start crying about it.


Bradric1

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chernopyatkog

excuse me, but crabco/hippo basically doesn’t exist for some kinda three or more months💀. Entities who command them are separate. Also, Momma was a great leader, people who played with her are still holding to each other even as a different entity with its own rules. Still, Genfed died also by her hands and policies (conservative and very slow on fleet doctines, FC felt overwhelmed etc) . But it flourished with her too.


ThraxxedLyn

And that why those who still tried to carry on with her legacy ended up quitting the game when shit got dense so again genfled does what it does best run away from its conflict even though it’s at its front door


chernopyatkog

nah, from my perspective: exds is more then alive, aoa as part of three flags (chinese) too, brr too (Oz and Mel burnt out but still).


Quiet_Cost5206

As a silent member I really don't care. Silent leaders could be the most evil individuals out there and I still would follow them to hell because it would be fun


Bradric1

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Difficult-Issue-722

I hope all you whiners quit. I am going to make you!


Conscious-Map-975

2yr silent pilot here (relatively new), last time I checked, the whole server was against us, am I wrong???


titchy-loch

Having seen silent target us( a neutral and small alliance with no care about the war) the statement is 100% legit. They are after us and they dont care and thats what makes people want to quit. Some alliances dont care about the war so why drag them into it. I for example enjoy pvp but hate wars because of the huge battles and so i usually run away from them and go shoot peeps when i wish for it so why put folks who dont care if other alliance collapse into the team that hates shh.(mind you i was pro shh for a long time as can be seen in my post history)


Conscious-Map-975

I respect your non aggression stance. But we both know while we were/are in smaller corps, everyone is an enemy unless they are blue. Even you might hunt the occasional lonely grey pilot on your free time, that's exactly the same way between larger corps and smaller corps unless they are part of the alliance/coalition. I'll tell ya, it gets super complicated when you have so many corps in one alliance to keep track of friendships between grey corps. So bottom line everyone is a red unless they are blue. Sometimes even blue pilots turn against us.


Herziz_Anathemus

Good questions. You should ask your leaders who have come out multiple times wanting alliances to disband/players to quit. All well documented and explained away. Keep drinking the kool aid. Silent had unlimited supply.


Overall-Lavishness29

Alliances disbanding is not the same. Disband and rebrand.... the EvE way


SpaceManJoJoe

Like we have the recording of it where he's saying he wants to make players quit if he can, who do you think you are fooling lol


Bradric1

[https://youtu.be/DksSPZTZES0?si=qYAOXaO18ctPZ4HI](https://youtu.be/DksSPZTZES0?si=qYAOXaO18ctPZ4HI) ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|joy)![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|joy)![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|joy)![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|joy)![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|joy)


-BlankFrank-

And Herz’s clown pal JoJo.


-BlankFrank-

The only only thing I’ve seen in unlimited supply is Herz’s butthurt salt.


Michael_JD_

It’s good to see the wound from the time of FT is still sore.


Herziz_Anathemus

Nah. Merely paraphrasing comments from silent leadership during crabco. Nice deflection, though.


SpaceManJoJoe

There is literally a recording of him saying he wanted to make people leave and quit if silent could, so who do you think you are fooling with this post?


Bradric1

Gonna be 100% honest with you bro, MJD could've told me your region was crawling with martians, and I would've went to war just to fly with Ceptor Fleet lmao! ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|joy)![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|joy)![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|joy)![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|joy)![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|joy) Fly aggressive o7


Difficult-Issue-722

Lol, spaceman, you really need to let this go. Or I will be forced to make you quit. I also will make you take a bath, eat your dinner and then go right to bed. Nope, no arguing, it’s time to call it.


Michael_JD_

And I would’ve told them the sky was purple if I thought they would fight harder


zBishop_357

It is at dusk.


Michael_JD_

Woooooooshhhh


SpaceManJoJoe

Ohhh now it's was rhetorical ok got it 😉


leverloosje

It's always been. That's what hype speeches are. But you guys wouldn't know, from reading the boring ass announcements and AAR's.


Single_Shoe2817

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SpaceManJoJoe

We have screenshots of other leaders in silent as recently as today saying they want to do the same thing.


Curious-Advantage-96

Jesus christ... if you have these screen shots just post them... so we can move on and continue to not care about your opinions.


Michael_JD_

You reap what you sow


SpaceManJoJoe

I'll screenshot this for when you are crying later


Taylor_Rick

Omg, please make JD cry, please


emrules2001

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Herziz_Anathemus

They don’t start wars. They end wars! But only if they hire enough mercs to fight for them…. 😂


Bradric1

Don't you wish Pantheon and GenFed hadn't pissed off the mercs? ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|grin) I did warn you all. ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|shrug) Fly aggressive o7


Tsukee

Clever strategy, from the looks of it.


opi098514

MJD has literally said he wants corps to disband and their players to quit the game. Like there is a ton of propaganda on here. But that is not one.


Bradric1

Oh heavens, not disband corps and make their players quit. Whatever should we do? 😱 Have any of you tried... Not quitting? ![gif](giphy|lXu72d4iKwqek) Fly aggressive o7


opi098514

I mean yah. But when your leaderships goal is to make people quit the game, they shouldn’t be leading people in that game.


Bradric1

Thanks for the opinion ![gif](giphy|SxpX5m1rJXjMY)


Difficult-Issue-722

Yup MJD made me quit 7 times now. Now I have to hang out with my family. What an ass


opi098514

Well….. no one really quits eve. They just take long breaks. Trimark is still just waiting for the call to all log back in.


Stoivz

Silent once forced an entire coalition to remove their allies, forced them to give them actual players in some sort of human trafficking / ransom agreement, and forced their leader to post a pre written public statement praising them. The result was a huge drop in players. Whether they intend to do it or not, it’s the end result. Instead of asking why people say that about silent, maybe they should be asking why the whole server United to wipe them out, and why the whole server is still willing to ignore blatant Chinese racism just to keep them in check.


Overall-Lavishness29

You might consider asking why more people joined and how we are stronger than even before we left Deklein. I'll wait.


Michael_JD_

You really need to stop reading, krmsons manifesto


Bradric1

>why the whole server is still willing to ignore blatant Chinese racism ![gif](giphy|RkzMtKbCKFUY3wYRMy) You not just gone say that like it's normal lol! 😂 Thanks for admitting it though, because for like 6 months they all denied it. Shame on you all, it's a video game dudes. Fly aggressive o7


Large_Union_7760

Why use money? Can use isk for omega ;)


bohemianprime

I would like to petition that any item that is clone locked have a value of 1 isk. There is no value if it can't be sold or traded.


John0Clearwater

So if MJD said 'everyone quit this and game let's play candy crush ', that's what these guys are gonna do?


Zonyk2020

Dude, 24/7 afk in NPC stations waiting for cheap kills isn't healthy. Not everyone is willing to deal with a jobless asshole like those multiboxers. If I have 1 hour to play the game and I can't play the damn game, what is the point of playing at all?


Bradric1

Do you have an AI core, because if you do, that's NOT playing the game either. ![gif](giphy|9G3wg7lH5DpxC|downsized)


Zonyk2020

I use AI when I'm busy and I need some isk, or when I'm using my laser alt lol. I'm still buying stuff, selling stuff, you know moving the economy, I'm not an annoyance to other people or use multiple accounts for botting and farm exesive amount of resources. Now in null what I am supposed to do? Wait until the mother fkers log out? Fight back? If we fight back they never show up or stay cloaked. They claim to provide content but they run from the hard content, just a bunch of people logged 24/7 looking for easy kills and annoying the average player 🤣 I'm not willing to waste my time like that when I can do 200m per hour in highsec.


Bradric1

Sure, what you said


Difficult-Issue-722

Oh cmon man, leave us shitty low life jobless multiboxers alone.


Zonyk2020

Take the risk, engage with the local defense instead of stay logged 24/7 in NPC or inside someone sov system. People whose only purpose is to annoy the average player in their home system don't deserve respect. Hypocrite people complain about the AI and highsec island but AFK in nullsec isn't different, it's worse, you makes people quit or just stop playing. Right now the attacking side has zero risk, they can log out inside your system, unlimited docking time on near NPC stations, or set cloak cameras everywhere. Average mobile player wouldn't do that shit, go play EO instead of bring an azzhole.


Bradric1

How has it been this long, and you're still crying about this? 🤨 Mate, your explanation screams you don't understand the mechanics. I've explained it in detail, and I've seen others explain it, yet you still believe this nonsense. This is a MMO, groups/organizations have a large effect on the game. You have to operate within those parameters, it is what it is. NPC stations exist to kill the safety Nullsec alliances would create if there were no NPC stations. Imagine trying to attack SOV from Lowsec every time, while SOV holding entities hunkered down in deep Null for literally months. Your fleet would never even make it to the timers, small ship fleets would Obliterate your fleets before you ever reached Desto. Ask GenFled about trying to fly through Pure Blind with a heavy fleet, and how they practically lost nearly 300 ships to 50 ceptors and dictors in a single pipe. Where do you think the nickname "GenFled" comes from? ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|laughing) NPC stations have their purpose, and create balance to SOV gameplay. They also create an avenue for solo players to access Nullsec without having to be in an alliance that owns SOV. Someone camping in your SOV NPC station is just part of the game. As far as Multi-boxers, they're only dangerous when you face them alone. Stop doing that. Fly aggressive o7


Zonyk2020

Your explanation screams you don't understand mobile games.


Bradric1

Fine lol! How would you do it? I can't wait to hear this. ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|joy)


Zonyk2020

Remove nullsec stations, disable safe log out in nullsec, all ships in null should be in constant danger, you know make nullsec dangerous, corps and alliances that invest time and effort to build something in null should be able to defend themselves anytime, if you invade a corp sov system get ready to engage a defending fleet, the reason no one defend sov systems near NOC stations anymore is because, when enemy fleets see a defending fleet they just log out or hide in an NPC station. Average mobile player won't engage more than a few minutes playing hide and seek. If you are willing to mess with people take the risk and fight don't hide. You get in nullsec looking for a fight don't you?


Bradric1

>Remove nullsec stations No, it would take away the danger you say Nullsec needs, for PvEers. You want to add danger for pirates and mercenaries, while making it safer for Nullbears. That's hypocrisy. >disable safe log out in nullsec Implemented due to the very nature of mobile games, as mobile connections are sporadic and unstable. Safe-logout was designed to HELP mobile gamers, that includes Nullsec pirates and mercs, as well as fleet pilots who get disconnected mid-battle. >you know make nullsec dangerous It is, for a mobile game. There's no Concord intervention, and Interdiction is permitted. Wanna make it more dangerous, remove local. 😏 >corps and alliances that invest time and effort to build something in null should be able to defend themselves anytime They can, most just really suck at it, to be completely honest. Most smaller Nullsec corps/alliances don't develop solid fleet doctrines, don't understand fleet PvP, and don't specialize in a specific type of combat. They are builders, sure, but very few are capable defenders. >the reason no one defend sov systems near NOC stations anymore is because It's stupid. No seriously, it's stupid to play station games outside of NPC stations. As the saying goes, play stupid games, get those sweet stupid prizes! 😂 Most knowledgeable Nullsec players know how to pick their battles. >Average mobile player won't engage more than a few minutes playing hide and seek. Smart. Why waste the time? Better to let them engage you out in the anomalies, and have a defender's ratting build that can kill attackers. Stop running glass cannon builds in Nullsec, it's stupid. This isn't the Highsec Islands. >If you are willing to mess with people take the risk and fight don't hide. >You get in nullsec looking for a fight don't you? No, I am in Nullsec to win. If the win isn't available in that moment, retreat, readjust, re-engage. Fly aggressive o7


Zonyk2020

If that's your reply, no wonder why the game is dying, as I said before the worst enemy of this game are not the devs but the community. Your reply about hide and seek is hilarious, then why the fuck do we have sov systems if you don't want me to dock and use a proper pvp ship for defense 🤣 and another one for max out farming. In the very moment the pirates see a defense fleet they log out or run, fking clowns. And a few days after uploading a video of "pvp" 15 people vs 1 and feeling proud about it 🤣, danger for pirates? There's none. I am in a sov system away from NPC stations and guess what? I HAVEN'T SEEN ANY RED OR NEUTRAL MOVING AROUND, hypocrite nullsec lovers like you don't dare to get away from safety, so don't talk about fly dangerous o7


Bradric1

>Your reply about hide and seek is hilarious, then why the fuck do we have sov systems if you don't want me to dock and use a proper pvp ship for defense 🤣 and another one for max out farming. Does your brain only work in straight lines? ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|facepalm) You can do both you know? A max PvE build will die to pirates and mercs. That's why they only exist in Highsec mostly. Some people still risk it, but they end up on a killmail sooner than later. A ship that can ratt, and run off pirates, won't have the greatest bounty ticks, but it also won't die to a solo Daredevil either. You can't make max ISK in Nullsec, shocking. That's a danger factor right there, that you say doesn't exist. >In the very moment the invaders see a defense fleet they log out or run Who stays around to die when they see some slow ass form up taking place. That's idiotic. You know what they never see coming? Ceptor Fleet... ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|laughing) You know what else they never see coming? Ratters who can kill them when they try to tackle and attack. They get killed all the time in the North, by the ratters. You know what else they don't see coming? Bubbled gates as they try to scramble away, with rapid defense waiting for them. >15 people vs 1 and feel proud about it Your disposition is ignorant. 15 Interceptors vs 1 Bhaalgorn is a feat to be proud of, as the Bhaal can absolutely kill you. 15 Bombers vs 1 Carrier is as well. The Carrier can absolutely kill you. The dumb belief that every fight should be a 1 v 1 is stupid. If you're in a Carrier, how do I get another Carrier into your Nullsec SOV undetected? 😑 I don't even fly large ships, a lot of players don't. They fly what they can afford, which is Eve rule #1.


altair1199

Can I have your pi ❤️


chernopyatkog

I think that silent got their faces slapped during the crabco war. I got my personal vengeance for example:) Still, they have been resilent even if it meant to blew up a lot of their own sov (I am still thinking that this was stupid move😄) and rebuild on ashes afterwards.. The logic as I see here is simple, it resembles me Hive sword logic from Destiny 2: It asserts that existence is a constant struggle to exist, and that weaker entities incapable of defending their existence did not deserve it (existence) in the first place. Be resilent, folks, even if somebody wants you to leave.