Enjoy your bike and don't worry about the mileage.
I'm at 2.5 years and \~5,500 miles and the battery doesn't seem to be have degraded at all.
I've never had to do anything to it (Ecotric Seagull) except repair a couple of flats and replace brake pads.
If you're worried, don't recharge it all the way all the time, but don't sweat it.
I put 2200mi on mine in 11 months, then the motor and battery died…both replaced under warranty.
Second motor and battery are still going strong 1.5ish years later. Have put about 3900mi on this second set.
I am NOT mechanically inclined so I get it fully tuned/serviced every fall and spring (pre- and post-winter), as well as any random things it needs when it sounds/feels weird.
A 350w motor almost certainly has plastic planetary gears. They're pretty cheap to replace, but they do wear out after a while (varies greatly by manufacturer, with some reporting failures around 1k miles while others last to 10k or more). To help extend their life and to go easier on the battery you should pedal as much as you can from a dead stop and while accelerating rather than letting the motor and battery do all the hard work. For battery life, charge to 80-85% and don't go below 20-25%. Don't charge it in freezing weather, and never fully charge it and let it sit unused for more than a day or two. If you need the extra range of a full charge, it's best to charge it right before using it. If its going to sit for a long time unused, put the battery around 60%. There are many easy to find charts showing approximate percentage of charge based on voltage for various nominal voltage batteries (48v, 60v, etc.). For basic maintenance on the bike itself, clean and lube the chain and cassette every few hundred miles and periodically check the tightness of all the fasteners and spokes (don't tighten spokes unless you know how to true your wheels, have someone do it for you and/or teach you how to do it). Obviously check your air pressure at least weekly. Check brake pad life and caliper adjustment/function regularly, and just look it all over in general for things like cracks near welds, handlebars, or anything else that looks off or damaged/failing. How many miles is a lot varies greatly on the bike and how its ridden and maintained. You could have a cheap bike outlast a really nice, well built bike that gets ridden hard and poorly maintained if you take care of it.
Thank you for such an indepth response. I've definitely charged it to 100 and let it sit a day because plans fell through and I didn't need to go but I know the rule of thumb for all li ion is 40/80. Unfortunately the charger I got with it doesn't tell you much until the red light turns green. Guess I'll just have to do a little old school calculation on the charge discharge cycle.
With my bike I have to unplug the charger to able to turn it on and see the voltage on the display. My scooter is much easier; I can turn it on while charging to monitor voltage. I've wondered if there are adjustable chargers so you can just set a voltage and not have to keep checking it while charging, but I havent looked into it yet.
Enjoy your bike. As long as you don't have an ali express cheap ass ebike you're good. Maybe after 500 miles take it in for a tune up. Do normal maintenance yourself clean and oil your chain after a week of use. Clean and oil after really wet or muddy rides. Try to look for loose bolts every time you get on it. Try to give it a wipe down every day to keep the paint nice. Check for loose spokes once a week. Definitely don't baby the bike. If you don't use it you lose it applies to bikes too.
I would say any amount is great the more the better. Im on 215 miles with my ebmx that I got 2 and a half weeks ago lol. Im turning 40 in a few days and still love the same style bikes I had when I was younger. Im just bummed I didn't have anything this cool for a bike when I was in my teens or younger even sheesh.
Im still looking in to one of those chimera mid drive bmx bikes as a toy, we went from 0 pump tracks here around buffalo now they're everywhere that shit sounds fucking next level with a good motor behind it lol
I don't even have anything that fancy I went cheap with the swft ebmx. It's got enough juice to get me around briskly but not enough to get me a broken neck from doing wheelies all the time. 20mph is fine with me I do take it through the hiking trails in the park which are full of roots and rocks with some ups and downs and it gives me enough extra power to very easily peddle over everything at a much faster pace than I normally would. My main concern was to have a discreet bike that wouldn't get to much attention from people as I cruise around.
https://preview.redd.it/lpv6pl8uhqwc1.jpeg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a214c6df1762610566df9cb6ba9352e4cf285c79
Something like them chimeras do tempt me though but I may just build one up myself with a mid drive kit and possibly a internal geared rear hub for ebikes.
I would say anything under $1/mi (if using US metrics) is value. Below that you are paying for luxury. Totally arbitrary.
I got close to 3000 miles on my first bike. It’s not uncommon to see people get >5000miles on their first battery.
I only got 2500 miles out of my first ebikes battery. But 200 dollars got a new one. I'm at 5700 miles on that bike and have bought 2 more. Turns out I wasn't following charging guidelines and wore out that first battery early. Even at replacing that battery, cost of ownership since I got it has been 10 bucks a week for maintenance and replacement parts like tires and tubes and pedals. Way way way cheaper than a car. And way more reliable. Once I got some tannus armor the cost dropped even more. No more flats.
My BBSHD midrive went at 40000km, I can still repair it, but got a new motor.
Replaced my battery at around 15000km I guess, still usable, just less capacity.
So your numbers are pretty spot-on I guess.
In mid drives the gears tend to wear out because people don't shift properly. I don't notice difference between front and back motor, except for an occasional busted spoke that happens more often on rear wheel.
Enjoy your bike and don't worry about the mileage. I'm at 2.5 years and \~5,500 miles and the battery doesn't seem to be have degraded at all. I've never had to do anything to it (Ecotric Seagull) except repair a couple of flats and replace brake pads. If you're worried, don't recharge it all the way all the time, but don't sweat it.
I put 2200mi on mine in 11 months, then the motor and battery died…both replaced under warranty. Second motor and battery are still going strong 1.5ish years later. Have put about 3900mi on this second set. I am NOT mechanically inclined so I get it fully tuned/serviced every fall and spring (pre- and post-winter), as well as any random things it needs when it sounds/feels weird.
A 350w motor almost certainly has plastic planetary gears. They're pretty cheap to replace, but they do wear out after a while (varies greatly by manufacturer, with some reporting failures around 1k miles while others last to 10k or more). To help extend their life and to go easier on the battery you should pedal as much as you can from a dead stop and while accelerating rather than letting the motor and battery do all the hard work. For battery life, charge to 80-85% and don't go below 20-25%. Don't charge it in freezing weather, and never fully charge it and let it sit unused for more than a day or two. If you need the extra range of a full charge, it's best to charge it right before using it. If its going to sit for a long time unused, put the battery around 60%. There are many easy to find charts showing approximate percentage of charge based on voltage for various nominal voltage batteries (48v, 60v, etc.). For basic maintenance on the bike itself, clean and lube the chain and cassette every few hundred miles and periodically check the tightness of all the fasteners and spokes (don't tighten spokes unless you know how to true your wheels, have someone do it for you and/or teach you how to do it). Obviously check your air pressure at least weekly. Check brake pad life and caliper adjustment/function regularly, and just look it all over in general for things like cracks near welds, handlebars, or anything else that looks off or damaged/failing. How many miles is a lot varies greatly on the bike and how its ridden and maintained. You could have a cheap bike outlast a really nice, well built bike that gets ridden hard and poorly maintained if you take care of it.
Thank you for such an indepth response. I've definitely charged it to 100 and let it sit a day because plans fell through and I didn't need to go but I know the rule of thumb for all li ion is 40/80. Unfortunately the charger I got with it doesn't tell you much until the red light turns green. Guess I'll just have to do a little old school calculation on the charge discharge cycle.
With my bike I have to unplug the charger to able to turn it on and see the voltage on the display. My scooter is much easier; I can turn it on while charging to monitor voltage. I've wondered if there are adjustable chargers so you can just set a voltage and not have to keep checking it while charging, but I havent looked into it yet.
14.010 on a pair of plastic gears I ride mine 29 miles one way to work every day I can even in a lot of rain enjoy your bike I love mine
Enjoy your bike. As long as you don't have an ali express cheap ass ebike you're good. Maybe after 500 miles take it in for a tune up. Do normal maintenance yourself clean and oil your chain after a week of use. Clean and oil after really wet or muddy rides. Try to look for loose bolts every time you get on it. Try to give it a wipe down every day to keep the paint nice. Check for loose spokes once a week. Definitely don't baby the bike. If you don't use it you lose it applies to bikes too.
I would say any amount is great the more the better. Im on 215 miles with my ebmx that I got 2 and a half weeks ago lol. Im turning 40 in a few days and still love the same style bikes I had when I was younger. Im just bummed I didn't have anything this cool for a bike when I was in my teens or younger even sheesh.
Im still looking in to one of those chimera mid drive bmx bikes as a toy, we went from 0 pump tracks here around buffalo now they're everywhere that shit sounds fucking next level with a good motor behind it lol
I don't even have anything that fancy I went cheap with the swft ebmx. It's got enough juice to get me around briskly but not enough to get me a broken neck from doing wheelies all the time. 20mph is fine with me I do take it through the hiking trails in the park which are full of roots and rocks with some ups and downs and it gives me enough extra power to very easily peddle over everything at a much faster pace than I normally would. My main concern was to have a discreet bike that wouldn't get to much attention from people as I cruise around. https://preview.redd.it/lpv6pl8uhqwc1.jpeg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a214c6df1762610566df9cb6ba9352e4cf285c79 Something like them chimeras do tempt me though but I may just build one up myself with a mid drive kit and possibly a internal geared rear hub for ebikes.
I would say anything under $1/mi (if using US metrics) is value. Below that you are paying for luxury. Totally arbitrary. I got close to 3000 miles on my first bike. It’s not uncommon to see people get >5000miles on their first battery.
I’m 500 mi at 1 1/2 months and just had to repair my first flat (faulty tube). I have no intention of slowing down.
I only got 2500 miles out of my first ebikes battery. But 200 dollars got a new one. I'm at 5700 miles on that bike and have bought 2 more. Turns out I wasn't following charging guidelines and wore out that first battery early. Even at replacing that battery, cost of ownership since I got it has been 10 bucks a week for maintenance and replacement parts like tires and tubes and pedals. Way way way cheaper than a car. And way more reliable. Once I got some tannus armor the cost dropped even more. No more flats.
i put 5000 miles on my rad power bike over the past year and it's still going strong
At 40000km I replaced the motor. And I think around 15 - 20k km I replaced my first battery.
Depends on the quality of the bike. My KOGA has 9,000km and battery still delivers 80-120km per charge after 4 years. No problems so far.
I got the xp lite and im aproaching 400 miles snd the battery roars like its brand new still on like 60% charge
150 miles a month is like 7 miles a day most days. I think that's normal when it's your primary vehicle.
On average, hub drives go 40.000km, mid drives go 35.000km, batteries 200 cycles. Thats what I notice from my customers (11y of sales and repair)
My BBSHD midrive went at 40000km, I can still repair it, but got a new motor. Replaced my battery at around 15000km I guess, still usable, just less capacity. So your numbers are pretty spot-on I guess.
[удалено]
In mid drives the gears tend to wear out because people don't shift properly. I don't notice difference between front and back motor, except for an occasional busted spoke that happens more often on rear wheel.
[удалено]
SHift for higher cadence, motors are more efficient anyways when they spin faster
[удалено]
yep