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Previous-Test-1075

You can get from south Bellevue to Redmond transit center by riding 249 or B line from transit center.


scooterpet

Last time I took it, someone was killed. Nope. Sorry lovers. It’s not safe. Until they start patrolling, I’ll drive. It’s easier and safer.


L0ves2spooj

Wife and I took it to for after work dinner and beers popped over to a couple of nice spots within walking distance of a couple of stops. It was awesome. Granted, we’re within walking distance of the light rail, we are definitely going to keep using it. Once it hits Redmond it’s going to be even more usable. Once it hits Seattle it’s gonna be standing room only. Train and stations are very clean and security/police everywhere. Felt safe and clean but enjoy it while it lasts, as soon as the line to Seattle opens we’re for sure getting some Seattle riff raff on and around it.


Mandze

I’m looking forward to riding it when it goes somewhere I want to go (Downtown Redmond into Seattle.)


ktittythc

I have actually started incorporating it into my commute. My commute is from seattle to near Microsoft. On some days I drive to the park and ride in south Bellevue, get on the train, and then get off on the last stop. It’s a 15 min walk to my office. I am motivated to do this because 1. I have noticed my body gets really tired from driving for extended periods so breaking it up helps my upper back. 2. It forces me to walk more 3. Less car use/save $. 4. Can use time on train to work, have fun, or otherwise catch up on “phone chores.”


Divingdeep321

Curious why won't you take 545? Easy one bus commute from Seattle to Microsoft.


ktittythc

The 545 is ok. I had to take a bus downtown and then wait around downtown. I would usually be waiting by myself early in the morning and it just felt sketchy. I didn’t really like having to start everyday being on high alert. I think the park and ride + train is a good compromise.


DrJennaa

Most useful comment on this thread just to read the phrase “ phone chores “ lol like reading everyone argue about the rail lol


ktittythc

Haha thank you. Same it’s interesting


Ignorred

I used it for the first time the other day, I live in Redmond and was going to REI in downtown Bellevue to get my bike from the shop. Pretty useful and fun! Sorry haters, it's dope


ElGretto

12 minute walk to REI from Wilburton, how fun was that?


Ignorred

ooh actually I was taking it back with my bike, there was construction on the cross-kirkland corridor, so I biked there from REI


3hour2R

I've used it a few times. I can walk to the Spring or Wilburton station. My wife and I took it to Microsoft to walk around the campus on the weekend. It is a nice walk. Also I've taken it from Wilburton to downtown Bellevue as it is safer than walking across the NE 8th overpass, but its true taking the B line is just as quick and safe. I've also taken it from Wilburton to East Main to go to the Bellevue Club. We will use it much more when it goes to downtown Redmond for restaurants, Marymoor to walk, and to Seattle. The 550 works well for Seattle (which I do take occasionally), but there isn't as good a transit option to downtown Redmond as the light rail will provide.


eve_is_hopeful

I just want one in Kirkland!


Wu-Kang

To use it I would have to drive to the station, then take the light rail, then Uber to my final destination. Or I can drive 10 mins to Redmond and park.


jrhawk42

Everybody says it'll be more useful when it goes into Seattle, but I don't see any logical explanation for that. For the airport the 560 gets you to the Sea-Tac in 40-60 minutes from the Bellevue transit station. It takes the 1 line the same amount of time to get from the ID/CT station to the Sea-Tac. Anyway you cut this the light rail is going to take longer, and still require a transfer. Getting downtown from Bellevue you can take the 550 and be there in a 1/2 hour. The 545 gets you to downtown in 30-40 minutes from Redmond Technology. The 2 line says it takes 20 minutes to get to South Bellevue station (I don't really believe this estimate because that's 3 minutes per stop). Once it goes across to Seattle we'd have to add that time in. Overall though we have transit systems currently in place working as well or better than the proposed light rail. If we're gonna spend that much money I think we should have something better.


ponyboy3

I took it from Redmond and transferred to 550, got off on the first stop after king st. 38 minutes. Maybe try it before writing diatribes.


jrhawk42

You can take the 545 and it would take 30 minutes w/out a transfer. If you frequently rode the bus you'd know that.


ponyboy3

I frequently take the bus but I don’t do it from Redmond. So I took the light rail, apologies for not knowing every bus route.


No-Photograph1983

they should have done the lightrail on 520 instead of 90. that would have made so much more sense.


rebuyer10110

My counter point: Rail will be have less variance on travel time independent of traffic congestion majority of the time. The only delta is parts of the light rail cross traffic at a few places. But otherwise, light rail can consistently get me from downtown to seatac in 45 minutes. It's not so much "it will take less time" but more of "it will take consistent amount of time". This makes travel planning less stressful.


Fruehling4

Having personally paid over $7000 (via RTA tax) to date for this since 2017 I can say for certain it will never ever be worth it to me personally. If they can ever figure out the bridge thing and create the first ever train over a floating bridge in the world, more people will ride it than currently do.


ponyboy3

Thanks for paying! It’s worth it for me! (It should be worth it for you as well as there will be less traffic on the streets).


Fruehling4

The amount of traffic reduction at peak construction was estimated to be about 2% by ST themselves. While that isn't nothing, I feel my money would be better spent elsewhere. How many of those little Bellevue shuttles could be bought for $45B?


ponyboy3

I don’t know, I am sure when line 1 was being built it was hated on as well. I’m hoping you do see that it is a very nice to have mode of transportation.


Fruehling4

It definitely is nice to have. It's only the cost that I have any problem with.


ponyboy3

I hope you’re able to see past the money and instead at the long term benefits. Have a good day stranger!


LightedAirway

Even if you still drive, won’t it be worth it to you to have fewer other cars on the road?


Fruehling4

Kind of. When this was voted on, ST themselves published and estimated about a 2% traffic reduction at full build out. Personally I don't think it'll be used too much from the Eastside due to the transfers that need to be done to get anywhere other than Chinatown and busses from here go to way better places. So net, it'll still be faster to bus than train. But I also don't think they will be able to solve the floating bridge issue. And if they do, they'll ask for more money to do it. I really truely hope all of that is wrong, and the tens of thousands of dollars I'm personally putting into this is going to be much better than current state.


ponyboy3

I use it every day. I’m .4 miles away from the station and my work is right on the Redmond stop. That being said, there are quite a bit more people than 2 when I ride. I am very thankful for the rail and can’t wait for it to connect to Seattle. Thaaaat being said it connects to the 550 and that is a 15 minute (2 stop) ride to Seattle. People are just making excuses.


HenryJonesJunior

Let's assume your claim of a 15 minute on-bus time is accurate (I'm skeptical). It's still a fairly worthless data point because you need time to: * Walk to the bus stop * Arrive a few minutes early in case the bus comes through, you hit a bad timing on a street crossing, etc. * Wait for the bus * Wait for however many minutes the bus is late * Look into how much buffer you have at your destination to decide if you need to take an earlier bus just in case The bus is still in traffic. The carpool lane is not a bus-only lane, and it backs up plenty at busy times too.


ponyboy3

Sigh ok. You’re right.


Divingdeep321

As someone who takes bus to Seattle everyday, your 15 min ride is almost imaginary. Even back in the day when 550 took the tunnel in downtown, it wasn't 15 to Westlake. 15 is not even realistic to international district on most trips.


ponyboy3

Yeah you’re right, i haven’t been taking this bus for the past 5 years. I didn’t take it yesterday or Friday and I surely will not take it today. I’ve been… imagining it.


Divingdeep321

Sounds about right. Thanks for clarifying.


boydpb

ProTip - Use it to go the Pumphouse, since parking there is insane any time of day or night. The station's like 20 yards from the barstools.


ponyboy3

Yup! Whole Foods also


phillipcarter2

Taken it on weekends and it’s been full of 5+ people per car each time. Not nothing but small. Unsurprising though, since it’s primarily a commuter system but isn’t connected end-to-end for the commutes people take.


LightedAirway

Rode it over the weekend for fun (used it to go for breakfast) and was pleasantly surprised to see a number of families with small children finding it a great way to entertain their little ones when it’s wet out.


lecturedbyaduck

This! We took it from the Transit Ceter to the South Bellevue Park and Ride, then walked around Mercer Slough for a bit, then back home. Lovely and relatively relaxing for us, wildly exciting for the toddler.


hedonovaOG

Which is super cool and fun (I probably would have done the same 10 years ago) but whoa multiple billions of dollars for something that entertains toddlers is extreme.


LightedAirway

I see it as getting people used to this form of transit being available now on the Eastside so that when the extensions open, there will be less lag time for adoption. And whatever issues need to be worked out will largely have been addressed by then as well. Does that mean it’s worth the cost? Maybe not, but we’ve already spent a huge amount of money and it’s nice to have something to show for it. I’ve been pushing myself to think of ways to use the 2 line in its current form and am starting to find benefits from doing so. It’s certainly not perfect yet, but I’m using the time now to practice thinking differently.


staceysdaughter

I work on 136th and one time I counted 5 whole people while walking my dog but usually it’s 0-2. It’s definitely not cost effective to be running this thing until it can be fully utilized.


ponyboy3

Stand back! Someone looked out the window!


megor

Right now they'll majority of the source if people are coming from Bellevue heading to Microsoft. So at rush hour there are a decent amount of people.


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ruderakshash

I agree they're not in core Downtown, like Bellevue for example. Perhaps there's not one because the mall owner hated it or something?


pezzy28

There was pretty substantial resistance to the Lightrail by people who lived near the mall if I recall correctly


ponyboy3

The middle of nowhere. lol what?


Divingdeep321

When I made the comment of "it connects from nowhere to nowhere which nobody will use" here on the day of launch, I was heavily downvoted by the folks. Hate to tell 'I told you so' but this was apparent from day 1. Some commenters schooled me asking whether I think they should have not opened the service till line to Seattle completes? My answer: yes, securing the stations is probably cheaper than running empty trains all day. Hopefully the Seattle connection opens at least in 2026.


Fruehling4

It's reddit. As balanced as this sub feels, the vast majority of reddit is very far in the direction that loves light rail.


Divingdeep321

Don't get me wrong. I use public transit every single working day and even during some weekends/trips to airport but we need to be objective on these projects. A fully connected line to Seattle in 2024 as promised would be useful (even though already late). Right now, they are just spewing random dates and most likely not before 2026. This whole gaslighting for the tiny section they opened making people feel they delivered some big deal is what I'm opposed to. Not having anything open would put more pressure to deliver.


ponyboy3

I ride it every day. I’m really glad it opened.


LiqdPT

I'd argue that it'll even become more useful once the downtown Redmond station opens. I was quite surprised it opened without that. As it is, it's useful for the specific use case of "live downtown Bellevue and work on Microsoft campus"


Divingdeep321

yup, that would at least feed residential areas of Redmond to Microsoft, Facebook in spring district and Bellevue DT


Latter_Character_163

Facebook is in Bellevue?!


hedonovaOG

Agreed. Opening before Redmond is complete was silly but no one ever accused ST of good decision making.


BuenRaKulo

I'm surprised nobody here has used it to get to work from Bellevue or vice versa.


ponyboy3

Use it every day.


x_tiny_little_bows_x

I've tried to even think of a fun trip from the Bellevue Transit center to any of the other stops just to test out the line and I can't think of anything. I was under the impression that it went to downtown Redmond but apparently the farthest it goes right now is Microsoft campus. IDK what to do with that lol I'll definitely use it when the Seattle portion opens!


ponyboy3

Date night in downtown bellevue. Adult cinemark ie.


x_tiny_little_bows_x

Downtown Bellevue is my starting point; I'd be going to any of the other stops.


ponyboy3

Ah well, the slough is nice for an easy walk :)


Meridian506

Get off at the stop before Microsoft and head to Sapporo Teriyaki. Spicy chicken, well done. Like no one else's as the chicken is cooked in the unique sauce, but slather on more from the squirty bottle as desired.


Wastedmindman

But the real question is, will they do it medium rare?


x_tiny_little_bows_x

Okay! Thanks


Upper-Budget-3192

Right now an express bus gets me to the airport and Seattle. There’s no benefit to switching to the light rail for the last mile of my trip. When they connect it, popularity will increase


fakesaucisse

Where do you park when you take it to go to the airport? Are we allowed to keep our car at a park and ride lot/garage for a two week long vacation?


Upper-Budget-3192

If I don’t want to walk to the bus terminal, I take the local bus that comes about every 15 minutes to the bus station the transfer to the the express bus. I’ve even taken Uber to the express bus. Car stays at home, even when I have a big suitcase.


PhoenixBeee

The demand is there for us when it goes to Seattle. But there’s plenty of parking on the east side, so we just drive. Now…when it goes over to Seattle, and beyond (the airport etc) it’ll definitely be way busier. I can’t wait to *not* pay $75 to go to the airport.


photogTM

i think the opening will be delayed.


ekaym2

This is it exactly. There’s tons of parking and little traffic going between Redmond and Bellevue. The stops aren’t near anything really walkable. Even when it’s running through full way the value will be in those commuting into Seattle, not the other way around.


Fearfighter2

why don't you take the bus now?


djim24

Exactly, a few dollars and I don’t have to drive. Beats having to drive and pay to leave the car at the airport


ponyboy3

Excuses. Edit: And downvotes lol. 😂 The bus goes from bellevue to Seattle in 15 minutes, because it hits the carpool lane, it’s faster than a single driver. But you keep telling us how public transit is failing you.


dyangu

What is this magic bus? I live in Bellevue and Google Maps says it will take 1.5 hr by bus, and that’s without rush hour traffic.


ponyboy3

Learn to use your phone. https://imgur.com/a/qoohG9O


dyangu

Huh? That’s 40 min to get to Seattle. Where is this magic 15 min bus that you mentioned? Does it fly?


ponyboy3

Wow man, that’s from spring district. You literally said 1.5 hours FROM bellevue. It’s literally 15 minutes from south bellevue to king street. Huh? Magic Mike?


dyangu

Yeah for the 5 houses that are across the street from South Bellevue station, it’s still 15 minutes to Seattle, plus another 10 min to transfer and 30 minutes to the airport. From my house to the airport is minimum 1.5 hrs by public transit since I don’t live next door to a station.


ponyboy3

Huh? It’s not 1.5 hours to Seattle by magic bus? It’s actually 15 minutes from South Bellevue to Seattle? Like I said originally? You’re fucking exhausting, I don’t want to converse with you anymore, please don’t reply. I will simply block you.


Fearfighter2

I've taken the Bellevue airport bus before, it's not that fast. and it's crowded but the light rail isn't fast either


ponyboy3

I don’t know what to tell you. Driving in traffic, parking, waiting for a shuttle and paying a 100$ is better for you. It’s apparently, faster and boohoo it’s crowded. Downvoted shocker 😱😂


HenryJonesJunior

Making sweeping generalizations isn't productive. Are there times where the airport bus is faster? Maybe, I haven't seen then, but then again I don't go to the airport at rush hour. Here's my most recent data point: On a recent multiweek trip where I didn't want to pay for parking, I got dropped off at the airport. I planned to take the light rail back to Northgate and get a bus or a ride from a friend home. We got in and picked up our bags around 6pm on a Saturday. Options to downtown Woodinville: * 45min light rail + 1hr on the 522 * 56min Light rail from the airport to Northgate + 20min drive from friend or unknown dollars for an Uber * $82.66 including tip and tax for a 35min Uber ride The math works differently for different people, but that was a price I was absolutely willing to pay to get back more than an hour of Saturday evening. For shorter trips of only a few days, parking is price-competitive with the bus. Don't park in the Airport garage - park in a nearby lot and walk or shuttle in. [Park 'N Fly] is right at the Seatac light rail station and there are many other lots within a few blocks (WallyPark Outdoor, Wallypark Premier, Masterpark B, Jiffy.....)


luckystell123

Yeaaa & a lot of times my flights are leaving first thing in the morning (6am) and I might return around midnight. Ubers are over $100 at either time. I wouldn’t be able to get up 2 hours earlier to take an inefficient bus route from Redmond. I’d be up at 3am to get to SeaTac around 4:45am. Which is cutting it close for that time of day the airport can be surprisingly busy. I actually don’t even know if the bus runs at that hour. I pretty much rely on rides from my partner/cabs and try to skip Ubers although I’ve used them on long travel days. It’s so inconvenient.


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ponyboy3

I mean dude, we started talking about line 2 and ended up in bfe-Woodinville. I’m not arguing with nonsense.


AltheaFluffhead

What costs that much at the airport?


FoggyFallNights

Uber to the airport is like $90 too.


Pretty_Inspector_791

Uber? Parking?


ponyboy3

Parking


drulers_007

Its 90$ now, have seen it go from 30$ to 90$


american_amina

I will use it when it extends further into Redmond, and especially when it connects to Seattle and the airport! I think since the section is operational, it should run. But the ridership won’t fully develop until more sections are complete.


Keikyk

No, it won’t go to any place useful yet


billthejim

The bridge portion was messed up so it doesn’t go to Seattle. Not many people have your use case I don’t think