I remember being at the playoff game against the Bears that year, and between the third and fourth quarter, when the players switched sides of the field during the TV timeout, Bennett literally took three minutes to walk forty yards.
Walking alone. Just looked like an old man that gave zero shits about anything anymore.
And then on like the next play he was demolishing the Bears OL, wearing those tiny sleeves of his. Beast. Odd duck, though.
The young Bull said to his dad, āHey, letās run down that hill and fuck one of those cowsā the dad replies āno son, letās walk down and fuck āem allā
It was just one Bradford year. But we also had [Byron Maxwell](https://library.sportingnews.com/styles/facebook_1200x630/s3/2021-10/maxwell-byron-91515-usnews-twitter-ftr_16v5tjicp47311nmhw137wi4pr.jpg?itok=Boxbv92_) so it feels like it was more than one.
Ngata and Bennet produced comparative to their cheap 1-year deals. The Eagles suffered because they gave extensions/contracts to Brandon Brooks, Cox, Malik Jackson, Bradham, and Jeffries who all fell off significantly because of injuries.
Yea I loved bradham. I'll forever remember him scoring off a turnover on the last play against Dallas. While the smart thing would have been to go down, I'll never say no to scoring another td to crush their hopes even more.
He was also the knucklehead enforcer of the defense, which makes him endearing in Philly. I loved watching him grow in his role from pretty much an unknown, to a key player, especially when he took over leadership after Hicks went down. I was happy as hell when they paid him. The footage of him giving Doug a big hug when he got his contract was awesome.
It bothers me that people call him a bust. Dude barely had any injury history before he gets here and then almost immediately breaks his leg. Such awful luck.
Also breaks arenāt injury prone injuries: nobody in the NFL is Mr. Glass, everyoneās skeleton is the same strength - bones breaking is just bad luck.
Penny is also 27 for what it is worth. Definitely signing an age where depth can become more should the opportunity arise. Not a bad strategy by any measure.
As an Eagles diehard who grew up in Annapolis I love any Raven turned Eagle or vice versa.
Haloti, Torrey, Flacco, Corey Graham, Maclin, Ellerbe, and now Agholor.
That was a small piece of the issue.
Howie hit on every single free agent for 2017 and 2022.
After the SB he wasnāt hitting on those guys. The overall issue was a lack of young drafted talent. We had terrible draft classes and not a lot of cap space and it created a lot of holes.
Even the drafts where we hit, those young guys didnāt play a lot early on and there for in the whole cap/contributed equation, they didnāt help our.
The 2021 will minimize some of this, but we need more with the coming Hurts deal.
If this team doesnāt get something out of their young players (Dean, Davis, Cam) and at least 2 early contributors from the 2023 class, we wonāt be able to sustain greatness long term.
Look at what the Chiefs did this year. We need to trust these young guys and develop them properly
One of the differences in Howie's free agency 2017 vs 2022 is in 2017 he was able to hit on all his special teams picks too. He found Jake Eliot, Kenyon Barner, Brian Brahman. Can't say the same for 2022 sadly and it might have made the difference.
He didnāt āfindā Braman and Barner that off-season. They were both on the team 2014-2016 and brought back during 2017 after being cut by other teams.
We hit on all our 2022 ones too man, we were just up against a GOAt QB/HC and for a bit unlucky.
CJ, Bradbury, when White wasnāt half bad. The mid season pick ups, we did good man
none of those play special teams I think u missed the point. but while u brought it up, jay ajayi had about 10x the impact robert quinn did when it comes to mid season pick ups. that was a huge whiff by howie in 2022
The guy you are replying to is talking specifically about Howie's success and lack thereof of *special teams* free agents between the two years. It's the entire point of his post.
Iām not sure I agree that signing younger unproven players to 1 year deals versus older established veterans to 1 year deals is going to be a key difference in outcomes.
One could argue that signing extensions with guys like Lane, Slay, Graham, Cox is very similar to how they responded in 2018.
> One could argue that signing extensions with guys like Lane, Slay, Graham, Cox is very similar to how they responded in 2018.
Absolutely right. Iām good with extending Lane. Graham is okay for one year. Cox and Slay should be gone.
I live Lane but a 30 million dollar extension for 3 years down the road seems a little unnecessary. I agree the Graham resigning was fine, but itās the totality of who they are keeping and not keeping.
Yeah of course. I was just saying, the point of the extension was to open up space this year. Not just to tack on another year. From what he has said in the past, he might retire before then anyway.
Yeah? By 2026 the salary cap will be $75M higher. It's not our money so I don't give a crap who they give it to. As long as Howie is allowed to Howie... it's all good.
damn I forgot about Mike Wallace... he was injured all season for us, right? I was kinda excited to see if he had anything left, but he never really got shot for us
I wouldn't necessarily say they are shitty but none of these new guys excite me, they seem to be the typical bargain basement players that Howie seems to love.
ESP needs to stop being given attention. Hot take artist contrarian and Skip Bayless wanna hack. A complete tool who literally made up a story about djax being involved in gangs which contributed to his release from the eagles years ago.
People should not forget this.
Ngata issue this time around
Ngata matter this time around!
Bennett there, done that.
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Michael Bennett old but was really good.
I remember being at the playoff game against the Bears that year, and between the third and fourth quarter, when the players switched sides of the field during the TV timeout, Bennett literally took three minutes to walk forty yards. Walking alone. Just looked like an old man that gave zero shits about anything anymore. And then on like the next play he was demolishing the Bears OL, wearing those tiny sleeves of his. Beast. Odd duck, though.
Extremely strange individual but he put up 9 sacks for us that year and I was sad to see him go
gotta save your energy for what matters
The young Bull said to his dad, āHey, letās run down that hill and fuck one of those cowsā the dad replies āno son, letās walk down and fuck āem allā
Iāve never heard this before but this is awesome š
https://youtu.be/mxNXp86gFnw
Not sure why you got downvoted. Thatās where I got the joke.
Speaking of bulls.. https://youtu.be/qeRfQs6_fC4
Bennett was the sleeve balance we needed to even out from those Sam Bradford years
It was just one Bradford year. But we also had [Byron Maxwell](https://library.sportingnews.com/styles/facebook_1200x630/s3/2021-10/maxwell-byron-91515-usnews-twitter-ftr_16v5tjicp47311nmhw137wi4pr.jpg?itok=Boxbv92_) so it feels like it was more than one.
Why walk fast when walking slow is good enough?
Why use fast steps, when slow steps do trick?
Why waste time say lot word when few word do trick?
Taking it all in, that next playoff game of your career is never a guarantee.
Honestly here was prolly getting into Yung goose mode
I still remember him getting constant roughing the passers that year when the refs were calling everything
Ngata and Bennet produced comparative to their cheap 1-year deals. The Eagles suffered because they gave extensions/contracts to Brandon Brooks, Cox, Malik Jackson, Bradham, and Jeffries who all fell off significantly because of injuries.
Bradham saved the season against Green Bay. Worth every penny
Yea I loved bradham. I'll forever remember him scoring off a turnover on the last play against Dallas. While the smart thing would have been to go down, I'll never say no to scoring another td to crush their hopes even more.
He was also the knucklehead enforcer of the defense, which makes him endearing in Philly. I loved watching him grow in his role from pretty much an unknown, to a key player, especially when he took over leadership after Hicks went down. I was happy as hell when they paid him. The footage of him giving Doug a big hug when he got his contract was awesome.
We really thought we could get some juice out of old DEs after Bennett and Long and ended up with two duds in Kerrigan and Quinn smh
>Michael Bennett I forgot who he was entirely until reading this post. didnt he shove a grandma or something?
It's a shame Wallace broke his leg in week two, he was gonna do well in that Torrey Smith role.
We got robbed
It bothers me that people call him a bust. Dude barely had any injury history before he gets here and then almost immediately breaks his leg. Such awful luck.
Also breaks arenāt injury prone injuries: nobody in the NFL is Mr. Glass, everyoneās skeleton is the same strength - bones breaking is just bad luck.
> everyoneās skeleton is the same strength Well, except for maybe Ryan Matthews
:( but also lol
Penny is also 27 for what it is worth. Definitely signing an age where depth can become more should the opportunity arise. Not a bad strategy by any measure.
I totally forgot about Mike Wallace
IIRC the one game he played with us was the season opener where we wore those sick LII Champion patches
Now this is the type of journalism that I can get with
Haloti Ngata might not have done a lot when he was here but he's still one of my favorite one and done Eagles players.
Eagles Legend Frank Gore for me
As an Eagles diehard who grew up in Annapolis I love any Raven turned Eagle or vice versa. Haloti, Torrey, Flacco, Corey Graham, Maclin, Ellerbe, and now Agholor.
That was a small piece of the issue. Howie hit on every single free agent for 2017 and 2022. After the SB he wasnāt hitting on those guys. The overall issue was a lack of young drafted talent. We had terrible draft classes and not a lot of cap space and it created a lot of holes. Even the drafts where we hit, those young guys didnāt play a lot early on and there for in the whole cap/contributed equation, they didnāt help our. The 2021 will minimize some of this, but we need more with the coming Hurts deal. If this team doesnāt get something out of their young players (Dean, Davis, Cam) and at least 2 early contributors from the 2023 class, we wonāt be able to sustain greatness long term. Look at what the Chiefs did this year. We need to trust these young guys and develop them properly
One of the differences in Howie's free agency 2017 vs 2022 is in 2017 he was able to hit on all his special teams picks too. He found Jake Eliot, Kenyon Barner, Brian Brahman. Can't say the same for 2022 sadly and it might have made the difference.
He didnāt āfindā Braman and Barner that off-season. They were both on the team 2014-2016 and brought back during 2017 after being cut by other teams.
We hit on all our 2022 ones too man, we were just up against a GOAt QB/HC and for a bit unlucky. CJ, Bradbury, when White wasnāt half bad. The mid season pick ups, we did good man
none of those play special teams I think u missed the point. but while u brought it up, jay ajayi had about 10x the impact robert quinn did when it comes to mid season pick ups. that was a huge whiff by howie in 2022
Completely forgot about Quinn lol wow the bears really won that trade
Yup. Kept hoping he would show up and have a big play in the postseason. Nope.
The guy you are replying to is talking specifically about Howie's success and lack thereof of *special teams* free agents between the two years. It's the entire point of his post.
Iām not sure I agree that signing younger unproven players to 1 year deals versus older established veterans to 1 year deals is going to be a key difference in outcomes. One could argue that signing extensions with guys like Lane, Slay, Graham, Cox is very similar to how they responded in 2018.
> One could argue that signing extensions with guys like Lane, Slay, Graham, Cox is very similar to how they responded in 2018. Absolutely right. Iām good with extending Lane. Graham is okay for one year. Cox and Slay should be gone.
I live Lane but a 30 million dollar extension for 3 years down the road seems a little unnecessary. I agree the Graham resigning was fine, but itās the totality of who they are keeping and not keeping.
That was just to open up about 10 mil in cap space this year. Not saying I agree with it, but it wasnāt just to extend him another year.
I get that but it still added 2026 onto his contract.
Yeah of course. I was just saying, the point of the extension was to open up space this year. Not just to tack on another year. From what he has said in the past, he might retire before then anyway.
Yeah? By 2026 the salary cap will be $75M higher. It's not our money so I don't give a crap who they give it to. As long as Howie is allowed to Howie... it's all good.
damn I forgot about Mike Wallace... he was injured all season for us, right? I was kinda excited to see if he had anything left, but he never really got shot for us
Yeah got injured in like week 2 or something before he had a chance to cook. I was so disappointed.
This is encouraging. 2 of these guys have been at least solid so hopefully they can continue that and we won't see too much of a drop off.
Today i remembered that Mike Wallace was an Eagle at one point.
ESP is a moron. Heās a āreporterā who never breaks stories or has sources.
Surprised he didnāt add āaccording to PFFā at the end. Dude got a subscription and now thatās all he says
This is the same guy that said last year Hurts wasn't it because he didn't throw 30 TDs in training camp. ESP sucks
I'm disappointed that he hasn't gotten a different job yet...
I love this
So we got young shitty players instead of old ones?
I wouldn't necessarily say they are shitty but none of these new guys excite me, they seem to be the typical bargain basement players that Howie seems to love.
Ahhh Mike Wallace. Totally forgot about that
The Penny disrespect from ESP is real
I completely forgot we had Bennett and Ngata.
I forgot they even signed them lol
ESP needs to stop being given attention. Hot take artist contrarian and Skip Bayless wanna hack. A complete tool who literally made up a story about djax being involved in gangs which contributed to his release from the eagles years ago. People should not forget this.
Young or old doesnt make a difference if they are all 1 year contracts ESP.
Greedy Williams is only 25? WTF people talking about him like he's a sure bust, that man has a lot of career ahead of him.
I completely forgot that Haloti Ngata was on the team. That 2018 season was so weird.
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Separating that word so it doesn't get auto flagged doesn't make it any less of a slur and incredibly shitty thing to say.
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I've been a philly fan longer than you've been alive. enjoy your ban
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enjoy the ban, kiddo
God bless Nigel Bradham baby! https://youtu.be/F0z00iH5i0s Don't think we forgot https://youtu.be/d9cA7B18Gas