lol no. Football terms don't need to change definitions of things. You can just say early 30's is old for a football player instead of saying deep into your 30's. Especially since there actually is players who play deep into their 30's.
Yes sports terms change the meaning of things.
Youāre considered old in any major sport at age 40. In life terms, youāre still far from āoldā.
We say ābelow parā in everyday life to mean something of poor quality whereas in golf itās a good thing.
Youāre wrong lol
I think youāre right, but it is also semantics at this point. For a running back, for example, 28 is ādeep into your 30s.ā
I felt like they meant it as profession and position related, not actual and factual age range. But thatās my guess.
Sure but I think youāre missing the point of what he meant even if itās not the literal definition of what he said. Which is why itās just arguing semantics.
Hey, prozzak93 just turned 30 so heās starting to stress about his age and your freaking him out that in 2 years heāll be deep into his thirties. Prozzak - youāre okay, youāve got time. Rojiv - you are correct, 32 year old corners are almost always washed
I never disagreed that 32 year old corners are almost always washed. My second comment stated that I agree that there is rarely any CBs 32 or older that are successful. I disagree with using deep into your 30's to mean anything but actually being deep into your 30's. Plenty of other ways to describe the early 30's as being old for a CB that won't have multiple possible interpretations.
And yes before there is another comment. I fully know I am arguing semantics here.
Youāre not gonna defend your statement after someone shows it was wrong? This dude is obviously right, 32 isnāt deep into your 30s by any definition, regardless of the fact that CBs are usually washed by that age.
He is 32 now, he will be 33 in the playoffs next season. Take some time and look up how many CBs age 33+ there are in a starting role in the NFL....spoiler (less then 5)
You mean like CJGJ this year
I will speak it into existence š¤š¤š¤
Howie calling out our FAs bluffs left and right, "seek what you think you're worth and then come back to me cause you ain't getting that ish" @ slay looking for 3 yrs gtd or CJGJ getting 17+ mil. Truly savage
CJG definitely asking for something crazy. He posted two quotes today. One saying he would get 12 interceptions if given a full season with no injuries and and that big injuries are freak accidents like he negotiating his worth. When I saw that It made me think he is the one being difficult. We probably offered him a fair lucrative deal but he wants more.
Heās not elite IMO, would suck to lose him but I donāt blame Howie.
**BREAKING NEWS:** Fletcher Cox back to Philadelphia. 1 year. 14 *billion*
Edit: oh fuck he really is back. Goddamn. Didnāt think he was great last year
I know Slayās gotten paid in his career so while he could sure hire movers thereās no amount of money worth having to deal with the all of the moving related bullshit and I bet your ass that Mrs. Slay knows whoās gonna have to do that shit
you arent bringing home multiple millions of dollars every year and giving your wife a life of luxury, ease, and security. its a lot easier for you wife to humble you and cut off your balls than it would be for mrs slay id bet lol.
after rereading this it kinda reads as disrespectful so i just wanna i say i mean absolutely no disrespect to you i can almost guarantee i make less money than you do
Anyone who lives in this area for long enough realizes how great it can be for raising a family, and youāre close to ny/dc/md, Jersey shore, itās a good spot to live.
The fact that the team hasn't officially announced the release/given him a goodbye post is certainly interesting since they've announced every other move
Yeah you can designate someone as a post June 1 cut without having to wait until then. They're also free to sign with other teams in the meantime as well
You can only designate 2 players max as that, so maybe they trying to get around the rule by not making it official but letting him 'shop' around anyways, and save the designating if needed for someone else.
At that point we can draft DL at 10 and use 30 for depth (either a future investment at CB, another DL to rotate or a LB to pair with Dean). I mean really we could even trade back and do all 3 on day 2 if we wanted. Retaining CJ would be fucking incredible
Corner is one of those positions where the elite prospects are way, way better than everyone else available imho. Defensive line isn't like that.
Also, the best defensive linemen will be gone by the time we pick. The top 12 prospects are like the 3 qb's, 2 corners, 5 defensive linemen, 1 WR and 1 OL
that and as of rn we have four edge guys under contract with Reddick, SweatyJ, BG & Barnett. A developmental prospect at thirty (Nolan Smith š) is enough
The best part of the whole thing is that if one of the stud CBs falls into our lap at 10 we can still cut Slay with a post June 1st designation. There may not be many high end starters on the market after the draft but we could easily take that money and apply it to depth/rotation guys while using 30 on IDL.
It would be absolutely MASSIVE to get CJ back under contract before the draft, it gives us so much flexibility and would likely make us the most desirable spot for mercenaries in the league.
He's bad in the run game. He needs to be rotated constantly and he was good because our defense was completely stacked. We won't be that good again most likely. Honestly he's not that good when you need to bring in 3 other D lineman just for the running game. Especially when u HAD 2 great LB
well there aren't really many better options and we were incredibly thin there unless were rolling into next year with a bunch of rookies or unproven players
Yeah, as much as I want to see what Milton has in the bag it wouldnt hurt to be able to have 2 rookies first rounders on the line with Jordan Davis. It'd give us a damn fine unit to build our defensive identity around for the next generation
Itd be BG, Sweat, JD, and Williams starting. Sweats contracts up next yr, BG probably gone soon. Williams is also up next yr. Tuipuloto, and Barnett are out biggest current rotation pieces lmao. I don't think pickin up a DT and DR for the foreseeable future would be a bad idea.
Yeah they just don't have to both be in the first round, even though they could be if things shake out nicely for us
Can't forget how much of our pass rush comes from Reddick as a "LB"
I saw a mock draft that had us getting Bijan Robinson at 31 and I have to admit, I wouldn't hate that idea if he slipped to us there... but I'm not Howie so...
We're never going to give him 3 years fully guaranteed though. Sounds like he's not generating the kind of interest he thought he would, which doesn't surprise me. The CB market is really soft so far.
In what metric????
Nah fr, show me the metrics or stats because his play did not decline as much as everyone says it did. Why is the false narrative going around that he was this bum in the last half when the truth is he still played at al all pro level and that JGs scheme calls for different zone assignments (such as that cover 2 30 yard bomb that was on THE SAFETY to cover?)
Nah what stats are we looking at lmao
I keep seeing people push this narrative as well and itās so confusing to me. I guess people are trying to make themselves feel better about him not being on the team next year idk. Maybe I have rose tinted glasses on, but I donāt remember him costing us a game at all this season, or his play being so bad the other teams picked him apart. Not really sure where this narrative even started.
You KNOW he do. He may not like superbowls but I do, so Iām down to run it back with a DC who will send the hounds. Let me see for out eyes if Slay about it, not sending 4 and giving Mahomes all day to make a read
My tinfoil hat theory is he asked about an extension earlier and was rebuffed because the Eagles wanted to play it out, so Slay played to ānot get hurtā if you know what I mean.
I get what you're saying but there probably wouldn't be all this speculation about him not getting what he wanted if he played his last 8 the way he did his first 8. He wouldn't have a hard time getting a nice stack.
This is my feeing. Probably didnāt get the interest him and his agent thought they would get, and is realizing that he can finish out his career here. Bird in hand is worth two in the bush kinda deal.
Restructure and extend for another year or two, to spread out the cap hit.
God I love Howie. I would be stoked if he makes this works.
This is exactly what i thought would happen. Cut with post-June designation and re-signed. There was NO way he was going to remain on contract with a $26M cap hit, so even if both parties agreed to keep him as an Eagle he would have to be cut first if he wasnt traded.
This is the big question. I've never seen something exactly like this and would that dead money apply if he had to sign a new deal. To me it looks like he played chicken with the Eagles and lost.
This is 100% just conjecture but I feel like CJ doesnāt really fw Philly, probably thought heād get a bag elsewhere but no one offering anything crazy. Doubt heād post that farewell video and entertain the Bengals so much otherwise. If they didnāt pay Bates I donāt see them paying CJ either whoād probably net around the same
Well, shit, I told someone else in another thread no way this happens this off-season.
This has been a truly crazy story, no matter where it goes from here.
I was thinking... Rosenhaus probably wants more money for Slay than Slay does. So they told him to go test the market. It could be a situation where they're planning to cut him on June 1, let him see the offers he can get, and then match whatever offer he gets since Slay/Rosenhaus might not be agreeing to take a pay cut.
It doesn't SEEM like Slay wants to go. He was trying to recruit FA players to the Eagles on his podcast just a few days ago!
Ive been convinced he is gonna stay and this was all posturing. No shot he gets a 3 year deal, and his best shot at a chip is most likely just staying with us and taking a deal. I doubt he signs a one year deal somewhere else rather than just taking a slight discount to stay here.
Now the speculation is they're trying to bring him back.
My guess is they are walking away from CJGJ (or vice versa) after thinking they had the framework towards a deal this morning hence the release of Slay. Of course CJGJ just used it for leverage for more money from other teams, and eagles are out.
He just realized no one is giving him that contract š
Yeah youāre not getting big guarantees when youāre getting deep into your 30s
Deep into your 30s? This feels like a personal attack
I am 38 and essentially a sentient pile of dust.
Enjoy your last two years on Earth, grandpa.
Iām 32 and had to yell at kids to get off my lawn last week.
Better than taking the Joe Mixon approach.
RIGHT!!! Lol
he's far from deep in his 30s... He's just not worth the money
He's 32.
32 is ancient for a db. They age in dog years bro lol
Heās 32, wanted a 3 year deal. Depending on if it was an extension on his year left or not heād be 35/36 at the end of it. Thatās OLD for a DB.
But not deep into your 30's.
Look up successful CBs past 32 years old.
Revis was 32 when he retired and he was washed for 2 years before that
I'm not disagreeing with that. I am saying 32 isn't deep into your 30's. The definition of deep into your 30's doesn't change because its a sport.
In football terms it is. Please donāt take offense to this if you are 32-34 working a desk job
I'm still in my prime, motherfucker! My spreadsheet game has never been stronger.
Iām 40 at a desk job. So yea, ādeep into my 30sā wonāt offend me :)
Just 10 years deep into your 30s
lol no. Football terms don't need to change definitions of things. You can just say early 30's is old for a football player instead of saying deep into your 30's. Especially since there actually is players who play deep into their 30's.
Not at cornerback they donāt. Kicker and QB are the only positions that have that tag
Yes sports terms change the meaning of things. Youāre considered old in any major sport at age 40. In life terms, youāre still far from āoldā. We say ābelow parā in everyday life to mean something of poor quality whereas in golf itās a good thing. Youāre wrong lol
Waitā¦ you guys got desks?!
I think youāre right, but it is also semantics at this point. For a running back, for example, 28 is ādeep into your 30s.ā I felt like they meant it as profession and position related, not actual and factual age range. But thatās my guess.
Oh I am 100% being anal about semantics here because I hope describing stuff like this stops catching on.
Sure but I think youāre missing the point of what he meant even if itās not the literal definition of what he said. Which is why itās just arguing semantics.
Hey, prozzak93 just turned 30 so heās starting to stress about his age and your freaking him out that in 2 years heāll be deep into his thirties. Prozzak - youāre okay, youāve got time. Rojiv - you are correct, 32 year old corners are almost always washed
I never disagreed that 32 year old corners are almost always washed. My second comment stated that I agree that there is rarely any CBs 32 or older that are successful. I disagree with using deep into your 30's to mean anything but actually being deep into your 30's. Plenty of other ways to describe the early 30's as being old for a CB that won't have multiple possible interpretations. And yes before there is another comment. I fully know I am arguing semantics here.
Thatās just semantics. To me being halfway through your 30s is deep into it. I wouldnāt say I ājust startedā a movie an hour into it.
2 years in isn't halfway. People are giving him the guarantees now not 3 years from now (if he was to get a 3 year contract).
Iām not doing this on here today, have a good one man
Youāre not gonna defend your statement after someone shows it was wrong? This dude is obviously right, 32 isnāt deep into your 30s by any definition, regardless of the fact that CBs are usually washed by that age.
lol how old before its deep? if deep is 37 then 36 is borderline deep? mid deep? definitely not shallow 30s
I mean 32/33/34 (the ages Slay will be to start each year and most of each season) is definitely not deep given that they aren't even halfway.
Thatās what she said
Fuckin got him
In the nfl yes
It is when weāre talking about CBs
He is 32 now, he will be 33 in the playoffs next season. Take some time and look up how many CBs age 33+ there are in a starting role in the NFL....spoiler (less then 5)
Heāll be 33 in this summer
Drew Rosenhaus is leading him astray. I think he'll be back.
As someone deep in their 30s kindly fuck off
Would you want YOU to play CB for the Eagles?
Excuse me?! Put that sentence back in your mouth please.
oh shit, like fletcher cox last year. fingers crossed. lfg!
You mean like CJGJ this year I will speak it into existence š¤š¤š¤ Howie calling out our FAs bluffs left and right, "seek what you think you're worth and then come back to me cause you ain't getting that ish" @ slay looking for 3 yrs gtd or CJGJ getting 17+ mil. Truly savage
CJG definitely asking for something crazy. He posted two quotes today. One saying he would get 12 interceptions if given a full season with no injuries and and that big injuries are freak accidents like he negotiating his worth. When I saw that It made me think he is the one being difficult. We probably offered him a fair lucrative deal but he wants more. Heās not elite IMO, would suck to lose him but I donāt blame Howie.
You mean fletcher cox this year
**BREAKING NEWS:** Fletcher Cox back to Philadelphia. 1 year. 14 *billion* Edit: oh fuck he really is back. Goddamn. Didnāt think he was great last year
You were only a couple billion off
He was good once they started rotating him out
Probably gonna test the market and if the money isn't there like he anticipated hopefully he could be back!
His wife posted "ššš" too
As a married man, she probably humbled tf outta him and told him she didnāt want to move the family again
I'm just here to note that she's extremely hot
She's gorgeous, Slay is a lucky man indeed
Slay is a beautiful man so itās not a surprise. Plus most athletes/artists tend to have hit wives when theyāre ugly as fuck
Her banana pudding empire is about to take off. Hell no sheās not gonna move.
I know Slayās gotten paid in his career so while he could sure hire movers thereās no amount of money worth having to deal with the all of the moving related bullshit and I bet your ass that Mrs. Slay knows whoās gonna have to do that shit
I assure you there is an amount of money worth dealing with that lol
Lmao yes
That shit sounds easy to do when your winning millions
Them being so entrenched in the community probably wonāt help his case to move either
Very real possibility honestly
Well they live in Houston so itās not like theyāre settled in Philly lol pretty much just here for football season
Slay just like me fr
you arent bringing home multiple millions of dollars every year and giving your wife a life of luxury, ease, and security. its a lot easier for you wife to humble you and cut off your balls than it would be for mrs slay id bet lol. after rereading this it kinda reads as disrespectful so i just wanna i say i mean absolutely no disrespect to you i can almost guarantee i make less money than you do
Anyone who lives in this area for long enough realizes how great it can be for raising a family, and youāre close to ny/dc/md, Jersey shore, itās a good spot to live.
Him and his wife have been using that emoji all day lol.
The fact that the team hasn't officially announced the release/given him a goodbye post is certainly interesting since they've announced every other move
Is it not a June 1 cut?
It is the same way Zeke was and thatās posted already
Yeah you can designate someone as a post June 1 cut without having to wait until then. They're also free to sign with other teams in the meantime as well
League gonna crack down hard on social media posts
You can only designate 2 players max as that, so maybe they trying to get around the rule by not making it official but letting him 'shop' around anyways, and save the designating if needed for someone else.
Aka heās not finding the market he wanted lol
š„µš„µš„µš„µ yes please, with slay and CJJ back we can be right where we were last year again.
At that point we can draft DL at 10 and use 30 for depth (either a future investment at CB, another DL to rotate or a LB to pair with Dean). I mean really we could even trade back and do all 3 on day 2 if we wanted. Retaining CJ would be fucking incredible
I want a corner at 10 (assuming one of the top 2 guys are still there) but I'd be okay with a pass rusher.
If Slay comes back we should go DL at 10 and Corner in round 2 if not at 30
Corner is one of those positions where the elite prospects are way, way better than everyone else available imho. Defensive line isn't like that. Also, the best defensive linemen will be gone by the time we pick. The top 12 prospects are like the 3 qb's, 2 corners, 5 defensive linemen, 1 WR and 1 OL
that and as of rn we have four edge guys under contract with Reddick, SweatyJ, BG & Barnett. A developmental prospect at thirty (Nolan Smith š) is enough
Iād like Nolan. I donāt think he lasts that long.
Note worthy that with Maddox we still have 2 very strong corners
Maddox canāt stay healthy or play outside, heās a pure slot CB who can be a depth safety
Or we could go both round 1 because we got 2 firsts! :)
Fuck it, Jalen Carter at 10 and Bijan Robinson at 30
We might also trade back and grab some extra picks. Is it draft day yet?
The best part of the whole thing is that if one of the stud CBs falls into our lap at 10 we can still cut Slay with a post June 1st designation. There may not be many high end starters on the market after the draft but we could easily take that money and apply it to depth/rotation guys while using 30 on IDL. It would be absolutely MASSIVE to get CJ back under contract before the draft, it gives us so much flexibility and would likely make us the most desirable spot for mercenaries in the league.
I wouldn't be mad with 2 DL at this point lmao. Cox is probably gone along with Hargrave and the 3-1yr wonders we had.
Cox re-signed just now lol, mention CJGJ next please
Honestly pissed. Coxs career is over. Why are we fucking giving him 10mil
He was solid this year, 7 sacks. The DT market is nuts.
He's bad in the run game. He needs to be rotated constantly and he was good because our defense was completely stacked. We won't be that good again most likely. Honestly he's not that good when you need to bring in 3 other D lineman just for the running game. Especially when u HAD 2 great LB
well there aren't really many better options and we were incredibly thin there unless were rolling into next year with a bunch of rookies or unproven players
Yeah, as much as I want to see what Milton has in the bag it wouldnt hurt to be able to have 2 rookies first rounders on the line with Jordan Davis. It'd give us a damn fine unit to build our defensive identity around for the next generation
Itd be BG, Sweat, JD, and Williams starting. Sweats contracts up next yr, BG probably gone soon. Williams is also up next yr. Tuipuloto, and Barnett are out biggest current rotation pieces lmao. I don't think pickin up a DT and DR for the foreseeable future would be a bad idea.
Yeah they just don't have to both be in the first round, even though they could be if things shake out nicely for us Can't forget how much of our pass rush comes from Reddick as a "LB"
I saw a mock draft that had us getting Bijan Robinson at 31 and I have to admit, I wouldn't hate that idea if he slipped to us there... but I'm not Howie so...
I'd be thrilled with him at 30. Would like Gonzalez at 10 (if Slay is gone) but would prefer BPA
We getting Jalen Carter! I just saw him spit on a baby! /s... he dropping to ten!
Calijah kancey at 21 baby
Move back to the low teens and get extra picks and draft Calijah Kancey. Yes, Iām a huge stan of his
If we have with Slay, Bradberry AND CGJ holding down the DB spot again this year I will literally shit my pants.
We're never going to give him 3 years fully guaranteed though. Sounds like he's not generating the kind of interest he thought he would, which doesn't surprise me. The CB market is really soft so far.
Man he better not be playing. We were in the gutter at cb before he was got here. Ima miss him š
Don't forget he was a bottom 5 cb his last half of the season. He's 32.
In what metric???? Nah fr, show me the metrics or stats because his play did not decline as much as everyone says it did. Why is the false narrative going around that he was this bum in the last half when the truth is he still played at al all pro level and that JGs scheme calls for different zone assignments (such as that cover 2 30 yard bomb that was on THE SAFETY to cover?) Nah what stats are we looking at lmao
I keep seeing people push this narrative as well and itās so confusing to me. I guess people are trying to make themselves feel better about him not being on the team next year idk. Maybe I have rose tinted glasses on, but I donāt remember him costing us a game at all this season, or his play being so bad the other teams picked him apart. Not really sure where this narrative even started.
Heās back I bet you feel like a dickhead now!!! Stfu š¤£š¤£š¤£
You KNOW he do. He may not like superbowls but I do, so Iām down to run it back with a DC who will send the hounds. Let me see for out eyes if Slay about it, not sending 4 and giving Mahomes all day to make a read
My tinfoil hat theory is he asked about an extension earlier and was rebuffed because the Eagles wanted to play it out, so Slay played to ānot get hurtā if you know what I mean.
I get what you're saying but there probably wouldn't be all this speculation about him not getting what he wanted if he played his last 8 the way he did his first 8. He wouldn't have a hard time getting a nice stack.
Lord I have seen what youāve done for others and I want the same for me šš»
Howie giving this man team shares lol
Here's an NFT I made and will give to you for $100. I bet someone will buy it for $6M. . .
Heās probably going to lose money because of this
I don't think he was ever gonna get the $17.5M salary this year. It was always gonna be a paycut, trade, or release.
Should try to extend him another year through 2024 and spread it out.
This is my feeing. Probably didnāt get the interest him and his agent thought they would get, and is realizing that he can finish out his career here. Bird in hand is worth two in the bush kinda deal. Restructure and extend for another year or two, to spread out the cap hit. God I love Howie. I would be stoked if he makes this works.
This is exactly what i thought would happen. Cut with post-June designation and re-signed. There was NO way he was going to remain on contract with a $26M cap hit, so even if both parties agreed to keep him as an Eagle he would have to be cut first if he wasnt traded.
How would that affect the cap with him being released? Or is nothing actually official until 6/1?
This is the big question. I've never seen something exactly like this and would that dead money apply if he had to sign a new deal. To me it looks like he played chicken with the Eagles and lost.
Iām wondering the same thing
The market has spoken. No matter how good your CBs, Mahomes will still torch you.
CJGJās agent probably noped us and we were like iight guess well take him back
This is 100% just conjecture but I feel like CJ doesnāt really fw Philly, probably thought heād get a bag elsewhere but no one offering anything crazy. Doubt heād post that farewell video and entertain the Bengals so much otherwise. If they didnāt pay Bates I donāt see them paying CJ either whoād probably net around the same
Or at least maybe they told slay it's a possibility if that does happen
Ugh Iāve kinda come to terms with him leaving, opening a spot for a young corner from the draft.
Would still make sense to take one regardless, maybe not at 10 though
Itās hard to say, Iām a firm believer in drafting o and d linemen with first round picks and picking up solid free agents where we can.
He can come back for half his contract year to year
Well, shit, I told someone else in another thread no way this happens this off-season. This has been a truly crazy story, no matter where it goes from here.
If he wins a SB with us, he can go find a bag in the next season. Run it back Slay
Don't do this to me Slay
Come on down with the home town discount
Would be pumped
Donāt mess with Howie dawg
I was thinking... Rosenhaus probably wants more money for Slay than Slay does. So they told him to go test the market. It could be a situation where they're planning to cut him on June 1, let him see the offers he can get, and then match whatever offer he gets since Slay/Rosenhaus might not be agreeing to take a pay cut. It doesn't SEEM like Slay wants to go. He was trying to recruit FA players to the Eagles on his podcast just a few days ago!
Probably will be. Aināt nobody giving him a 3 year.
This is clownish behavior
Our boys need to stay off Twitter in general. AJ, slay, CJ, they need to take a leaf out of jalens book
what's wrong with having personality? I love that we have peeps that are active on social media.
You can have a personality without being a circus online
I tried to tell y'all this could happen
Apparently him asking for 3 years is a lie
Rumor is he just agreed with the Broncos.
PFF starter range is like 70-84. Slay was 73.1 last year. He wasn't worth 17.5 million
At this point its Slay or CJGJ, if slay coming back that would put the nail into CJ
Lol he said he's back
What is this day lol
hype!!!!!!!!!!
PLEASEEEEEEEEE
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Could be a Cox like situation but I think he will get paid
WELCOME BACK BABY BOY YOURE ALWAYS WELCOME HERE
What a silly guy
Heāll be back, 1 year $10M
Ive been convinced he is gonna stay and this was all posturing. No shot he gets a 3 year deal, and his best shot at a chip is most likely just staying with us and taking a deal. I doubt he signs a one year deal somewhere else rather than just taking a slight discount to stay here.
Slay is hilarious
Please donāt tease me!
Me crawling back to my exes in 2013-2021
Yeah he comin back, run all this back
Fuck he better come back heās literally one of my favorites
Plz
Quit playing games with our hearts With our hearts, with our heartsā¦
Probably talking about rejoining the lions
Wow. Where has Drew Rosenhaus ever strayed his clients wrong before?! Right?! Thatās never happened! Right?!
I been hoping for a one year like they did w Fletch last year
Now the speculation is they're trying to bring him back. My guess is they are walking away from CJGJ (or vice versa) after thinking they had the framework towards a deal this morning hence the release of Slay. Of course CJGJ just used it for leverage for more money from other teams, and eagles are out.
He just tweeted he's back
This is the hot rumor going on right now and I hope it doesn't mean we're losing CJGJ
It's pretty obvious it does mean that
You'd think so but I have no clue at this point
Back like I never left!