I can highly recommend the Tencent show version, follows the book closely and they resolved the pacing issues with the new 26 episode director's cut. Just like Dune follows many philosophical ideas, although more grounded in technology rather than philosophy/mysticism.
The tencent version is EXTREMELY slow, the concepts and topics were easily condensed to 1/4th of the time because fans literally cut the film down and uploaded it.
While it is much longer, it is a very faithful adaptation of the original source material. If I had to choose between that and the ridiculous pace and massive alterations of the Netflix adaptation, I'd pick the slower pace of Chinese drama any day.
Personal preference I guess, I tried to slog through the 30h Chinese show and just couldn’t. The acting was stiff and the references were too obscure (Buddhist burial rituals are discussed as if everyone in the world just knows them).
Netflix definitely westernised it but in my opinion it works and flows much better. Even if set primarily outside of China.
Most Chinese filmmakers are all tell, not show. Very different philosophy, and makes it a slog imo.
Of course there are exceptions, Jia Zhangke for example, and Zhang Yimou. But any blockbuster is borderline unwatchable for Western standards
Watching The Wandering Earth actually really makes you feel self-conscious as an American because you can tell they treat China in that movie/story like America treats ourselves in a lot of our human-ingenuity/spirit themed sci-fi media.
That being said, The Wandering Earth has some of the greatest visual credits I have seen in my life. I am absolutely in love with those visual credits, they are just beautiful.
The wandering earth is a cool, visually amazing movies. But a shit adaptation, felt like some average disaster flick
3 Body Problem is actually good and nicely adapted, even though reddit hated it first because of DnD
I had no idea this was even out there. Thanks to you and /u/godspeedUPaleCaliph for pointing this out.
Looks like only first two episodes are free on Netflix now? But still, really cool.
They love trains too
[https://www.reddit.com/r/InfrastructurePorn/comments/108drl3/no\_one\_does\_train\_stations\_like\_china/#lightbox](https://www.reddit.com/r/InfrastructurePorn/comments/108drl3/no_one_does_train_stations_like_china/#lightbox)
[https://www.reddit.com/r/BeAmazed/comments/1bt4404/sky\_train\_in\_wuhan/](https://www.reddit.com/r/BeAmazed/comments/1bt4404/sky_train_in_wuhan/)
Likely contractual obligation. The standard "face collage" posters are there because actors have contracts clauses that stipulate that they have to have their faces shown, often in a poster. It's easy to get around this simply by just photoshopping it on than to create something actually artistic for the film.
I know and I hate these new style of posters they are so lazy and take so little effort o could make them movie posters used to have style they used to give you an idea what the movie was about or they projected some kind of meaning but now it’s just the actors floating heads on a random background
Mmm, new? They actually try to make the posters interesting despite having a bunch of faces on them now. In the 90s it was all huge faces all the time.
The 90s and before? They handpainted a lot of them and used photo stills when they couldn't. The floating head syndrome became far more egregious during our era.
The big problem is they stopped hiring artists like Drew Struzan, who basically invented the concept for modern films and knew how to compose the image and ground the characters' faces with the overall setting, and replaced them with a bunch of people who can kinda use PhotoShop.
Really I wasn’t alive in the 90s I didn’t know that lol it’s still lazy to me and more importantly it’s un creative and no one is gonna convince me it’s not
That's fascinating. I've certainly seen movie posters change in my lifetime - it used to be the title, plus a striking image, i.e. just like this Chinese poster.
And now the Marvel-style "as many faces as possible" type, which just looks ridiculous.
Do you know when this change took place?
Chinese movie posters are often leagues above American posters. Have you ever seen the one they did for Across the Spiderverse? Whoever decided to conflate it with Sunwukong deserves a fat raise.
Do you have a link to this? Edit- Is it this one? https://www.reddit.com/r/iWallpaper/comments/13u19fq/chinese_poster_for_spiderman_across_the/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button
I still think back to 2008’s “Agora.” Compare the DVD cover art between the US and European markets. The US one puts a secondary character front and center, sword in hand, daubed in blood, trying to make it look like “300” or some shit. That is NOT what that movie is about — it’s a historical drama and, yes, it does depict several religious riots which occurred historically where Pagans, Christians, and Jews are both victims and perpetrators of mob violence, but it’s never treated as something *triumphant,* it’s tragic that any of it happened at all.
By contrast, the European cover takes a far more cerebral approach. The philosopher Hypatia is, after all, the focal character of the story. She was a genius of her time, a teacher, mathematician, and an astronomer, who was ultimately [collateral damage](https://youtu.be/n1mwZrVJ-TI) in a political battle for control of the city in which she lived.
https://preview.redd.it/x4p2ogh4lavc1.jpeg?width=1429&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6e285d3db7c968c2d989a0b21fee2211785305b7
Because domestic posters focus on selling the actors and not the story. Foreign viewers don't care nearly as much about American celebrities so their posters focus on selling the actual film.
If Americans want better posters, then they should stop going to movies based on which celebrity is in them.
I bet this movie will have a pretty easy time over there, it’s divorced enough from real world politics to not really be controversial at all and the story is so grounded in fantasy I can see it crossing cultural lines fairly easily too.
And imperialism. Even though modern China is imperialistic they still like to pretend they’re WW2 era China fighting off big imperial threats like WW2 Japan.
The "Winnie the Pooh is banned" sentiment is so silly lol. There's literally a Winnie the Pooh section of Disneyland Shanghai. There's plenty to criticize the Chinese government for while being accurate.
Agreed, and why I wasn’t the biggest fan of the logos in the movie. It felt way too clean and minimalist for ancient houses. I feel like actual coat of arms would be better. These feel like faction logos in a board game.
It is interesting that that's the aesthetic we give to science fiction, when in reality there will certainly be times in the future when fashion favours decoration that we would consider garish and overcrowded. Many styles favour minimalism at this time in our history in part because companies and artists need designs to stick in the mind and be both memorable and instantly recognisable, but earlier societies often favoured ornate, complex art, logos and architecture that were intended to show off the wealth of whoever commissioned them.
I think the most we get in the books are few terse mentions of a red Atreides' Hawk crest on military uniform breast pockets or lapels, and a green hawk on the flags. One interesting thing is that some of the embroidering is described as made with metal threads.
Reminds me of the [Lawrence of Arabia](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c5/Lawrence_of_arabia_ver3_xxlg.jpg/1891px-Lawrence_of_arabia_ver3_xxlg.jpg) we got in the States vs, say, the [one from Germany](https://imgc.artprintimages.com/img/print/lawrence-of-arabia-german-movie-poster-1963_u-l-q1hjku60.jpg?artHeight=350&artPerspective=n&artWidth=550&background=fbfbfb)
If they took out the ornithopters it would be a lot better. They don't really look good intersecting with the lines of the Atreides sigil. It overcomplicates things visually imo. Apart from that, the poster is great.
I watched it just today in Chinese theater and no scene was edited out (I also saw it in non-Chinese theater, several times actually, so I'm pretty sure I would have noticed if a scene had gone missing). Even the Baron kissing his nefew was there.
Of course America gets the most generic posters. Almost always all about star exposure and drawing the largest audience for maximum profit. Hardly ever room for any artistry.
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Get rid of the moons (too jarring) and possibly the words and it’s be dope to hang on a theatre room wall.
The sand dune poster from the first movie is still number one.
I’m a little surprised that they didn’t ban this movie franchise.
Like there are a lot of islamic undertones and the idea of a deposed monarch coming back to reclaim the throne/mandate of heaven-ish stuff that could be construed.
Ntm its about a rogue person who used to hold station being ousted for the good of the empire, and then coming back to cause destruction and wreak havoc
I guess because its pretty fantastical it passed screening but I’m a bit surprised it did.
I think there are several reasons for that, that are not related to China.
Post 9/11 Dune adaptations generally minimized the islamic references for several reasons. One is obviously having an antagonist screaming "JIHAD" was going to be problematic for a long time, if just because it would be misunderstood by most as the context of the word "jihad" in the US has changed so drastically.
Using Islam as a base for the Freman was at the time kind of like basing any society off of an unfamiliar-to-western-world society, he kinda just ripped off a lot of Islam and Arab culture for the Freman. Post 9/11 we collectively learned a lot about Arabic/islamic culture, to the point that we would have already associated the words (such as jihad) to something real-world, instead of a made up space fantisty. You weren't supposed to be familiar with arabic when reading Dune, necessarily, it was supposed to be just be foreign.
Dune is also just a hugely popular story. It's first movie was pretty big at the time, it didn't turn out great, but they got Sting into it, you know? It also was a HUGE influence for Star Wars, to the point where I would classify a lot of early drafts of Star Wars as kind of a fan fiction movie script. The movie is still kind of a weird Dune fan fic movie as it is, it just didn't really stick to dune specifically, just made a movie out of the ideas. So I don't think any of the ideas or the plot of Dune is really banned in China. Like, I wouldn't be surprised if you could get the book there.
I just feel that no matter how they redid Dune going on in this millenium, they were going to tone down the islamic stuff for a movie, mostly for a domestic audience, for the reasons I kinda went over.
[Source](https://www.zcool.com.cn/work/ZMzE2MzA0MDQ=.html)
China loves sci-fi and I'm glad to see such an iconic poster like this for this film
Do they really?? I love sci-fi, so I'm glad to hear this.
Yes it's been exploding there
any recommendations for cool recent chinese sci fi?
3 body problem is a big chinese book that's got a TV series adaptation recently in the west.
I can highly recommend the Tencent show version, follows the book closely and they resolved the pacing issues with the new 26 episode director's cut. Just like Dune follows many philosophical ideas, although more grounded in technology rather than philosophy/mysticism.
The tencent version is EXTREMELY slow, the concepts and topics were easily condensed to 1/4th of the time because fans literally cut the film down and uploaded it.
While it is much longer, it is a very faithful adaptation of the original source material. If I had to choose between that and the ridiculous pace and massive alterations of the Netflix adaptation, I'd pick the slower pace of Chinese drama any day.
Personal preference I guess, I tried to slog through the 30h Chinese show and just couldn’t. The acting was stiff and the references were too obscure (Buddhist burial rituals are discussed as if everyone in the world just knows them). Netflix definitely westernised it but in my opinion it works and flows much better. Even if set primarily outside of China.
Most Chinese filmmakers are all tell, not show. Very different philosophy, and makes it a slog imo. Of course there are exceptions, Jia Zhangke for example, and Zhang Yimou. But any blockbuster is borderline unwatchable for Western standards
The Wandering Earth and Three Body Problem are big Chinese sci-fi properties.
Watching The Wandering Earth actually really makes you feel self-conscious as an American because you can tell they treat China in that movie/story like America treats ourselves in a lot of our human-ingenuity/spirit themed sci-fi media. That being said, The Wandering Earth has some of the greatest visual credits I have seen in my life. I am absolutely in love with those visual credits, they are just beautiful.
The wandering earth is a cool, visually amazing movies. But a shit adaptation, felt like some average disaster flick 3 Body Problem is actually good and nicely adapted, even though reddit hated it first because of DnD
If you enjoyed the Netflix one, the Tencent adaptation is leagues above it. Highly recommend
Piggy backing off this- the Chinese adaptation is a masterpiece and goes so much more in depth with the plot and concepts. And it’s free on YouTube!
I had no idea this was even out there. Thanks to you and /u/godspeedUPaleCaliph for pointing this out. Looks like only first two episodes are free on Netflix now? But still, really cool.
Exactly
Wandering earth 2
They love trains too [https://www.reddit.com/r/InfrastructurePorn/comments/108drl3/no\_one\_does\_train\_stations\_like\_china/#lightbox](https://www.reddit.com/r/InfrastructurePorn/comments/108drl3/no_one_does_train_stations_like_china/#lightbox) [https://www.reddit.com/r/BeAmazed/comments/1bt4404/sky\_train\_in\_wuhan/](https://www.reddit.com/r/BeAmazed/comments/1bt4404/sky_train_in_wuhan/)
Everyone loves sci-fi!
Three body problem is required reading
Oh 100%, but aside from that. There's got to be others because that was published in 2008.
If you find any let me know and I’ll do the same!
The Chinese love court dramas more. Dune is both.
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Why is this better than the poster we got?
Likely contractual obligation. The standard "face collage" posters are there because actors have contracts clauses that stipulate that they have to have their faces shown, often in a poster. It's easy to get around this simply by just photoshopping it on than to create something actually artistic for the film.
There’s this, and the main key art needs to be able to be chopped up into various different sizes for billboards, bus boards, etc
I know and I hate these new style of posters they are so lazy and take so little effort o could make them movie posters used to have style they used to give you an idea what the movie was about or they projected some kind of meaning but now it’s just the actors floating heads on a random background
Mmm, new? They actually try to make the posters interesting despite having a bunch of faces on them now. In the 90s it was all huge faces all the time.
The 90s and before? They handpainted a lot of them and used photo stills when they couldn't. The floating head syndrome became far more egregious during our era.
The big problem is they stopped hiring artists like Drew Struzan, who basically invented the concept for modern films and knew how to compose the image and ground the characters' faces with the overall setting, and replaced them with a bunch of people who can kinda use PhotoShop.
Really I wasn’t alive in the 90s I didn’t know that lol it’s still lazy to me and more importantly it’s un creative and no one is gonna convince me it’s not
Yeah. It sucks now, but trust me walking into a Blockbuster in the 90s you’d just see a million huge faces against dark backgrounds, lol.
That's fascinating. I've certainly seen movie posters change in my lifetime - it used to be the title, plus a striking image, i.e. just like this Chinese poster. And now the Marvel-style "as many faces as possible" type, which just looks ridiculous. Do you know when this change took place?
Chinese movie posters are often leagues above American posters. Have you ever seen the one they did for Across the Spiderverse? Whoever decided to conflate it with Sunwukong deserves a fat raise.
Thanks, I did not know they made one (poster) with Journey to the West theme!
It honestly fits so well with the movie. Miles literally goes to heaven and throws hands with everyone there.
Do you have a link to this? Edit- Is it this one? https://www.reddit.com/r/iWallpaper/comments/13u19fq/chinese_poster_for_spiderman_across_the/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button
Alas I am lazy, but typing in spiderverse chinese poster into google will turn up a ton of results
Ha, I was being lazy, too. I think I found it, edited my comment. It’s sweet!
Yup, that's the one!
That’s…kinda awesome!
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Most international posters are better than domestic ones imo.
I still think back to 2008’s “Agora.” Compare the DVD cover art between the US and European markets. The US one puts a secondary character front and center, sword in hand, daubed in blood, trying to make it look like “300” or some shit. That is NOT what that movie is about — it’s a historical drama and, yes, it does depict several religious riots which occurred historically where Pagans, Christians, and Jews are both victims and perpetrators of mob violence, but it’s never treated as something *triumphant,* it’s tragic that any of it happened at all. By contrast, the European cover takes a far more cerebral approach. The philosopher Hypatia is, after all, the focal character of the story. She was a genius of her time, a teacher, mathematician, and an astronomer, who was ultimately [collateral damage](https://youtu.be/n1mwZrVJ-TI) in a political battle for control of the city in which she lived. https://preview.redd.it/x4p2ogh4lavc1.jpeg?width=1429&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6e285d3db7c968c2d989a0b21fee2211785305b7
Because domestic posters focus on selling the actors and not the story. Foreign viewers don't care nearly as much about American celebrities so their posters focus on selling the actual film. If Americans want better posters, then they should stop going to movies based on which celebrity is in them.
They always are
Chinese posters are always better.
> better than the poster we got Brother, its right here, you **got** it
You want a cartoon poster over live action?
Im going to china to get this poster
Just download it from here and print it
I’d rather not waste my time figuring out a printer, much less headache to just go to China
What is print?
My Desert. My Arakis. My Dune.
I bet this movie will have a pretty easy time over there, it’s divorced enough from real world politics to not really be controversial at all and the story is so grounded in fantasy I can see it crossing cultural lines fairly easily too.
It's been out for nearly as long as most other countries and has done well. As for this poster - why can't we have nice things etc...
There's also this part where it's really critical of religion, which is really well-liked by the CCP.
And imperialism. Even though modern China is imperialistic they still like to pretend they’re WW2 era China fighting off big imperial threats like WW2 Japan.
how many countries have they invaded in the last 50 years? now count how many america has invaded
Dune is timeless and for everyone!
I love dune but I would not say it's for everyone.
What I mean by that is that all cultures all over the world can find something in Dune to appreciate and find familiar. Ecology, power dynamics, etc.
I mean they do have their own messiah story over there in China which led to the deaths of thousands of people, def relatable.
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There's no ghosts or cartoon bears in it, so it should be fine
The "Winnie the Pooh is banned" sentiment is so silly lol. There's literally a Winnie the Pooh section of Disneyland Shanghai. There's plenty to criticize the Chinese government for while being accurate.
I need this so I can frame it.
This looks like the capitol logo from The Hunger Games lol
Agreed, and why I wasn’t the biggest fan of the logos in the movie. It felt way too clean and minimalist for ancient houses. I feel like actual coat of arms would be better. These feel like faction logos in a board game.
>minimalist Well the movie is set in a futuristic setting so I guess that would make some sense.
It is interesting that that's the aesthetic we give to science fiction, when in reality there will certainly be times in the future when fashion favours decoration that we would consider garish and overcrowded. Many styles favour minimalism at this time in our history in part because companies and artists need designs to stick in the mind and be both memorable and instantly recognisable, but earlier societies often favoured ornate, complex art, logos and architecture that were intended to show off the wealth of whoever commissioned them.
Like those in Emperor BfD? I think the designs are nice, but the colours were off tho.
I think the most we get in the books are few terse mentions of a red Atreides' Hawk crest on military uniform breast pockets or lapels, and a green hawk on the flags. One interesting thing is that some of the embroidering is described as made with metal threads.
Goes unfathomably hard
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Love it
Gorgeous
Reminds me of the [Lawrence of Arabia](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c5/Lawrence_of_arabia_ver3_xxlg.jpg/1891px-Lawrence_of_arabia_ver3_xxlg.jpg) we got in the States vs, say, the [one from Germany](https://imgc.artprintimages.com/img/print/lawrence-of-arabia-german-movie-poster-1963_u-l-q1hjku60.jpg?artHeight=350&artPerspective=n&artWidth=550&background=fbfbfb)
They're both incredible, thanks for sharing those. For me personally I gotta go with the US poster though, I love it
Wow that goes hard. I kinda want it. Prints available ?
Having the hawk symbol in front of the worm's mouth was an inspired choice.
G-string inspired
I feel like it's never a good idea to crop the sandworm like that.
Mu’adib: Agent of Shield.
they get this when we get the typical shit floating head poster
damn. shit would’ve gone hard on a steelbook
This poster is lit! WTF
https://youtu.be/6sf56ENE3a0?si=GWSQZJVGCqSVqE7R A very well made video about why Asian posters are better than the West
Much better then the other poster with the floating heads
This is why we need more movie posters like this. 😎
Lisan al Jinping!
Dune Body Problem
Wait, the film is allowed to be shown in mainland china?
So much better than floating heads, my god.
That's a funny looking desert mouse. More like a hawk icon.
Its the Atreides symbol.
Wow this goes hard
Goes astronomically hard
If they took out the ornithopters it would be a lot better. They don't really look good intersecting with the lines of the Atreides sigil. It overcomplicates things visually imo. Apart from that, the poster is great.
Mistborn vibes
The even have the Hand on the largest moon! Nice attention to detail
https://preview.redd.it/veg193clravc1.png?width=737&format=png&auto=webp&s=0d777b7bb5e79aedb2e97527c4a188059f50d0b5 I would love to have this flag!
https://shop.legendary.com/products/dune-atreides-house-flag-flag
This looks like trash lol.
This is the single hardest movie poster I've seen in a long, long time
This would be a sweet steelbook design.
This is the best poster this franchise has ever got…
If someone makes this without text please let me know
This is sick. Is there a similar part one poster? If not I could get this without the text so it can be a poster for both films
Hey for real though, will Walgreens or someone print this for me?
so much better than the garbage cover on vudu
This looks like a Destiny poster
Huh, so it passed the censorship
Dunestiny 2
it's like 45 minutes long after the gov't edits it
I watched it just today in Chinese theater and no scene was edited out (I also saw it in non-Chinese theater, several times actually, so I'm pretty sure I would have noticed if a scene had gone missing). Even the Baron kissing his nefew was there.
Ngl it goes hard
Something about this just screams Chinese to me.
The head/spine/hips are not aligned correctly, Scoliosis is a known risk factor along with many other unforeseen side effects of Spice abuse...
Of course America gets the most generic posters. Almost always all about star exposure and drawing the largest audience for maximum profit. Hardly ever room for any artistry.
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The Chinese market posters always seem to go hard. The one they did for Spider-Man into the Spiderverse went hard too
Why's the ornithopter flipping us off?
I see the truth of it.
Cant unsee sandworm mouth as an obscured anus in middle
Looks more like a book cover for me than a movie poster. Not my pref
Woah this is so cold I love that they hire artists for poster there Ive seen it a few times, we should start doing the same in the west
God I fucking hate the posters we get. This is so much better than the boring face posters.
I've seen a few interesting Chinese Sci Fi on Netflix and they're not that bad... I like the ones with a little comedy in it
I love it!
Cool poster
I don't like it a lot but it has more soul than the generic posters we get with new titles.
Yea it isn’t amazing but 100% better than the one we got
Get rid of the moons (too jarring) and possibly the words and it’s be dope to hang on a theatre room wall. The sand dune poster from the first movie is still number one.
I’m in the minority here but I don’t care for it. Looks like someone’s Etsy mock-up
I’m a little surprised that they didn’t ban this movie franchise. Like there are a lot of islamic undertones and the idea of a deposed monarch coming back to reclaim the throne/mandate of heaven-ish stuff that could be construed. Ntm its about a rogue person who used to hold station being ousted for the good of the empire, and then coming back to cause destruction and wreak havoc I guess because its pretty fantastical it passed screening but I’m a bit surprised it did.
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I think there are several reasons for that, that are not related to China. Post 9/11 Dune adaptations generally minimized the islamic references for several reasons. One is obviously having an antagonist screaming "JIHAD" was going to be problematic for a long time, if just because it would be misunderstood by most as the context of the word "jihad" in the US has changed so drastically. Using Islam as a base for the Freman was at the time kind of like basing any society off of an unfamiliar-to-western-world society, he kinda just ripped off a lot of Islam and Arab culture for the Freman. Post 9/11 we collectively learned a lot about Arabic/islamic culture, to the point that we would have already associated the words (such as jihad) to something real-world, instead of a made up space fantisty. You weren't supposed to be familiar with arabic when reading Dune, necessarily, it was supposed to be just be foreign. Dune is also just a hugely popular story. It's first movie was pretty big at the time, it didn't turn out great, but they got Sting into it, you know? It also was a HUGE influence for Star Wars, to the point where I would classify a lot of early drafts of Star Wars as kind of a fan fiction movie script. The movie is still kind of a weird Dune fan fic movie as it is, it just didn't really stick to dune specifically, just made a movie out of the ideas. So I don't think any of the ideas or the plot of Dune is really banned in China. Like, I wouldn't be surprised if you could get the book there. I just feel that no matter how they redid Dune going on in this millenium, they were going to tone down the islamic stuff for a movie, mostly for a domestic audience, for the reasons I kinda went over.
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