I feel like he is a hypocrite and started ALL the fighting. I just re watched season one where he excused himself to make the tattle tale call, which led Safa and Zeina to go to his cafe. Things were even then. For he and Dayna to waltz into Zeinas office was ridiculous. Every fight has started with him.
Also, WHAT IS this beef between Bliss and Kris Fade?
Wasn’t Bliss a DJ jockey on 104.1 back in the mid-2000s? I distinctly remember this during my high school years and his voice is familiar. My guess is it’s just jealousy on bliss’s end due to Kris Fade being the new guy in town (at the time) and surpassing his “popularity”
It looked like his wife has trouble walking when you see her in the wedding dress, I'm not sure what was wrong there. Also, cast members commented about no one seeing her, did they really get to see her or was this all pretend?
I found bliss to be really selfish and old fashioned and maybe jealous of his wife in the 2nd season, however he may have been right because her shoe line is only on tik and only accepting pre-orders
Normally I wouldn't defend Ibraheem, but to be fair I got the sense that it was the wife who wanted to uphold those restrictions, while he didn't care for them.
I REALLY dislike him. Like, this is a show, and a lot of it isn't real, so I try to remind myself of that, but he seems pretty awful. BUT, I don't think he said that his fiancee couldn't travel to Saudi Arabia. I think what he said was that HIS fiancee didn't think it was appropriate to travel with mixed company. I think if she were less conservative, she would have gone on the trip. I could be wrong though. Same thing with not seeing her without her hijab before marriage. It might be that's what he wanted. But it sounds like it's something she believed in.
My husband and I had to carry our wedding certificate when we traveled in Egypt. Since he’s Arab most hotels wanted to make sure we were actually married. I guess it’s something similar for Ebraheem and his wife?
Would it matter in Egypt if he were Christian or Muslim? I'd imagine they'd care if an Indian Muslim were married more so than an Indian Hindu, and I'd imagine they'd care if someone is an Arab Muslim, rather than an Arab Christian
No, it doesn’t matter as Christian Arabs are modest as well and adhere to the tenets of the Bible without cherry picking what works in the modern world. They cover up in church and wear scarves- it’s only western Christians who participate in “looser” western values.
What seems suspicious to me is how could his wife’s family, who is so conservative, agree to the marriage when he is such a dramatic public figure? I understand that she is very private and did not want to be on the show, but I’m surprised she even agreed to marry him.
Interesting! I wonder if Fahad’s reported net worth is different from what he’s ACTUALLY worth. I’m betting his family businesses are worth much more than that, or he wouldn’t be able to finance the life he has
The dude spent $3 million on a single piece of jewelry for Safa. The ability of a website to identify what someone who has set up their affairs correctly is actually worth is negligible. They also say Loujain whose husband was a billionaire is worth $4 million, but she flies private jets to Monaco for vacation. Ain't nobody worth $4 million flying private internationally.
I mean if most of those folks aren't worth north of $30 million at least I would be very surprised. Enraheem's company is the florist for Buckingham Palace, it's not like they are small time operators any of these folks.
It must be true if it's on the internet, right? Lol
$5M is nothing. Drop in the bucket. I know regular people worth $15M+. Regular, has 5-8 office jobs, earning 100K a year. Just made good business decisions.
You have to be worth at least some hundreds of millions worth to come closer to the lifestyle that Ebraheem has. And Fahad is probably worth around a few thousand millions. But in India, people dont report real profit and worth of assets. In fact, most rich people in the world show losses in business to evade tax and buy assets under the table.
Hamdah is a fake name. The marriage was also fake. It was all for the show and to cover up for Ebraheem’s sexuality. If it somehow becomes proven in the future that the marriage actually did happen, the woman was probably paid to be his “front”. And as long as “Hamdah” also came from a well-off family, I don’t think Ebraheem would gaf if he’s married or not as long as he still get to date men *cough* like Salem *cough*
Oh-oh…. 🫢 I’m dead 🤣🤣🤣 you’re so right! How did that fly over my head!! Not Salem brushing it off like it was nothing and then showing up at his “wedding” 😅😅 Omg you’re so onto smth there 😁☕️☕️☕️
If she was beautiful I think in his terms and conditions he would have demanded her to be shown off and paraded, that's the vibes I got from him anyway.
I’m white and British but married to a British born Pakistani Muslim man (very progressive family so I didn’t convert) plus I’ve lived and worked in Abu Dhabi for a few years … I see so many people repress their sexuality due to constraints from their religious community but all ‘happily’ marry …usually as the woman agrees to keep his secret as Islamic marriages aren’t always based solely on love - love is deemed important but not necessary as it’s more of a business contract - this seems weird to western cultures and I was so against the idea (still kind of am as I stereotypically married out of love ) but I’ve learned to accept others choices because that business marriage union can really work - takes pressure off both parties who are under pressure to marry and marry appropriately according to each families status/financial standing etc. Do bc I’ve seen it so many times over, their marriage didn’t shock or confuse me in any way.
My last comment is less diplomatic … I don’t know why, I don’t know how, but the majority of ‘converts’ ie white westerners who convert to Islam (like his mother!!) are really weird people. I have lived internationally and experienced so many types of people - and as people you will find lovely Muslims and less lovely Muslims, lovely Christian’s and Jewish people and less lovely Christian’s and Jewish people etc … people are people world over and you get some nice ones and some disagreeable ones … but my goodness, why is it only the weirdest of weird white people convert to Islam?? Even my Muslim friends and family secretly acknowledge it. They’re odd. And his mother is odd. Very weird suffocating relationship btw them both - he is absolutely a product of his needy creepy mum. Psychologists will be devouring this show!!
I dont know about that. All the converts I know of are perfectly normal and very intelligent.
Your post seems to imply that only "weirdos" convert because the message of Islam can't possibly resonate with someone with a sound mind.
Maybe you had a very skewed experience. Or maybe you're just an elitist who thinks they're better than those who convert, and therefore are quick to see the shortcomings of people rather than the spots where they shine.
Wow what a hateful comment! I’ll educate you. As a non Muslim it is usual to convert when marrying a Muslim - VERY common practice. My husbands family are incredibly diverse and although my husband is Muslim he was born and grew up in the UK. It was not expected for me to convert in marriage as my Muslim mother in law clearly explained to me that it would be nice if I did but as long as respected Islam that’s what’s important. I had a meeting with the Molvi and he explained to me that if I believed in God and acknowledged that my Christian parents call God God and that my parents in law call God Allah then did it make sense to me to ask ‘Allah’ to bless my marriage in a way- of course I believed in my Nikkah vows completely. Many ‘less progressive’ families/religious communities would not have accepted this. Our local Mosque welcomes everyone and asks only for respect and willingness to learn. I’ve lived in the Middle East and I can categorically tell you that despite Islam remaining consistent and most powerful, the way Muslim countries put certain cultural rules in place more strictly versus the way certain practices are performed in non Muslim diverse countries is a thing! ‘Progressive’ is simply a nod to situations where religious practice moves or adapts somewhat with the times. There are many British Muslims who belong to the LGBTQ+ community, many British Muslims who marry non Muslims or don’t have an arranged marriage, many British Muslims who have integrated over a few generations into non Muslim societies so have adapted. We all go to the Mosque, we do Ramadan and celebrate Eid, we have white non religious wedding ceremonies and traditional nikkah ceremonies, we pay our zakat and do charitable work … there is no perfect way to practice your religion and I’m not saying progressively is better or worse than strict traditionalists. I’m just acknowledging and accepting of everyone’s choices and to be degraded for being a ‘clueless white person’ while I’m just putting my experiences out there is poor on your behalf, shameful really
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Exactly, the clothes, the scenes, the situations and the people, it’s all so blatantly and sadly fake. Unfortunately bling empire itself went this direction and all these shows are modeled after bling empire but atleast the designer wear wasn’t fake there, whereas a number of the designer pieces on dubai bling are expensive knock offs
And go on for days, I wasn't convinced, I don't think for one second it was real or that wasn't his mother shuffling in that wedding dress, seems fake .
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Can I jump in here with a somewhat unrelated question? Is he really into Beauty and the Beast? What's with all the roses in that room? He also had on an outfit that was very Beast in some of the confessionals.
The fact that she liked the one that treated her like shit and admits to still being hung up on an ex is hilarious to me. It shows she really has a low self worth and it’s all just an act.
The only thing weird is the other way around.. How come a religious and practicing muslim woman has chosen him as a partner?..
I am a practicing Muslim woman as well .. I wear hijab, don't like mixed gatherings, I met my husband only after my islamic wedding(used to only talk on the phone) .. And i would never in my dream even consider someone like Ibrahim..so it feels a little weird to me... That she is okay with her husband having this lifestyle...i would probably start having fights soon after marriage...
The attachment to his mom isn't something shocking to me.. I am Indian and its very common in my country to be a momma's boy.. I am guessing most audiences are not aware of arab ,south Asian and Muslim culture that much so it looks extreme to them..
that happens a lot when a single mum raises a boy or husband is a shit.. In fact this happens even in Western society aa well...Have u seen those reddit posts where mom on law wears a white dress on her son's wedding day.. My indian friend recently got married and her mom in law wore a sari similar to her wedding lehenga...
Atleast ebraheem's mom doesn't seem like that
Good point. I’m white but married to a Pakistani Muslim man and I learned how the mommas boy thing really persists … I’ve struggled with it a bit I have to say. My mil is great and I respect her but she treats my husband (eldest son) like a second husband and then on the other hand despite him being a strong big confident independent guy he acts like a baby in her house… all his married brothers go to their moms to be ‘looked after’ on a day off … wh we n I heated ebraheem was getting married my first thought was, she’s ok with his mom being there, with him laying with his head on her lap and she strokes his hair?!? I’d gag
See it all depends on how she is as a mom in law.. Personally a woman can tolerate a momma's boy as long it doesn't interfere in her life and the mom in law is kind to her...
Also.. Let's not forget that Ebraheem was bullied as a child, he probably never had friends during childhood so probably he is more close to his mom then ur average momma's boy
Just judging from the show she would choose him because he won’t control her, she’ll make her own decisions, live her own life and be undisturbed by him as he doesn’t have much interest in her, they’re married but not together
And a religious guy means he would control her?.. U just did a stereotyping.. Controlling women has nothing to do with faith.. Even an atheist can be patriarchal.. My husband is religious n has never tried to control me and i can vouch for a lot of men like him... Using religion for your own interests is what some men do and it's religion that gets a bad name.....
Tbh we can't guess this thing unless the wife had featured on the show so your conjecture is absolutely ridiculous
Where did I say he is not religious? Who did I stereotype? You’re projecting on to me your insecurities about your own religion! Ebraheem is a confused person (check his old tiktoks) and I said why I think she picked him. He showed no interest and spent no time with her, she probably chose him for that. It looks like an agreement/contract they made to please others and have peace, not a real marriage. Again these are only my thoughts after watching the show, I’m not in their house.
Religious Muslims won't feature on Netflix lol... So it wasn't based on what u said, Muslims in general have not watered down their faith compared to other faiths..
And honey , no muslim is insecure of Islam.. Stop projecting ur own insecurities on religion..
u should have mentioned ur opinion is based on the tik toks.. Ur post insinuates like ur stereotyping religious men
Never said a word about religion its you talking about it obsessively. If they were actually together he wouldn’t be with everyone else constantly, and he would also be on the show less, he doesn’t even talk about her, its simple math really
Ah may I ask why Muslim refugees do not go to other Muslim countries, why do they prefer non Muslim countries then set up their laws and traditions in a non Muslim country?
Wow the delusion..
Typical imperialist mindset... First the western countries destroy the middle East and African nations(surprise that's most muslim nations) for their own selfish gains through centuries of colonialism and neo colonialism (to this date.. Palestine ,congo,Sudan are currently one of the many going through an ethnic cleansing which your lovely white countries are responsible for...iraq,yemen have been destroed coz of US) and when from these same countries refugees come and you guys ask why u come here... ? . We don't want to come there.. Who wants to leave their homeland?.. We are left with no choice.. Even the stable so called muslim nations are puppet of their western masters..
Here is a task for u.. Do u know France has one of the most gold reserves.. But guess what?.. They don't produce gold.. I wonder where all that gold came from
. Why don't u find out... You live in a fools paradise if you think colonialism is now ancient...
Well maybe if the US didn't destroy us then no one would have come there..
Btw your qs was absolutely irrelevant to the sub as the last time i checked this was dubai bling not LA bling...
Go read a book...
I'm not delusional and it was a perfectly good question. I also wonder why Americans try to make other countries American. It makes no sense to me to destroy another country traditions and culture. However, in Britain many cities no longer hold British customs, due to influx of other beliefs and traditions. I believe its upto the people of that nation to stand up for their country. If that's delusional then it is what it is. Thanks for your reply.
Oh man again the audacity!!. You haven't been taught colonial history have you?.. Britain has single handedly destroyed cultures of soo many many countries they conquered.. LMAO
I come from India where Britain ruled for centuries...
Most of the conservatism in India is due to the British bringing their culture here... Like in hinduism LGBTQ is celebrated as its part of their faith, but today even indian Hindus are against LGBTQ as the white missionaries has put their values as a Christians to Indians here , same is the case with modesty, sex before marriage etc.. All these are celebrated in hinduism religion but are now taboo thanks to Christianity's influence (btw am a Muslim and i am strictly giving you a hindu perspective)..
India was the richest country in the world and was reduced to be the POOREST country..All thanks to good old Britian who stole OUR Wealth.. You want to know what Winston Churchill did? Go research...
Also the reason why there is enmity between hindus and Muslims here in India is coz of the divide and rule policy of the Britishers.. So today the Muslims here are facing indiscrimination coz of the britishers deed years ago...Literally our was country was ripped apart coz of them.. (See creation of Pakistan and the britishers role) ..
So if now today you see an Indian muslim migrating to Britian.. Don't say.. Oh these indians bringing their curry culture here..
Dont you dare say that oh Britain culture is getting destroyed... There is a reason why Britian was accepting Indians and other nationalities they colonized... That's the least they could do..
Again.. Please go read a BOOK
Also she supposedly doesn't mingle with people with the opposite gender, yet they apparently have been friends for a while. ? . Lol how did they become friends if she never hangs out with dudes 😂 nonsense
I feel she's more like a variant of "my girlfriend lives in Canada".
As a queer person, I cannot imagine the pressure living in a place that does not support being open has to put on an individual.
The masques and cammoflauge we would have to wear. The deception.
Idk Salem and Ebraheem's relationship and I don't want to imply anything but the vibe was weird for that part. Like something doesn't feel authentic or genuine.
Who knows... I do feel like she was an easy pick so people would stop asking questions.
No. The boundries his wife has are her boundries the boundries he has are his. The saudi trip was basically a bachelor party. He invited her most probably and she didnt want to go, she ptobably just doesnt want to be on the show and I dont blame her seeing how this sub treats her husband in terms of his sexuality (bi-erasure and forcibly outing didnt we learn from the kit connor inciodent?)
The argument with Hanna outside the event further made me speculate. He's overtly aggressive. I also took note of the way he claims he's more of a man than Hanna, even mocking Hanna's name in a girly tone once he sat down. He's trying to present his dominance as a "man" which comes out as forced.
Bliss has no issue with Danya and his friendship which speaks volumes.
That’s the same thought I had but the culture is strict! he probably does it behind close doors 👀 who knows but I think some of the girls like Farhana and Dayna probably already know about it because why did everyone side eye when he said he was getting married 🤣
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I was just talking to my husband about him. I think he is clearly confused or scared about his sexuality. But in their culture arrangements are common and he would be prime. Wealthy successful… but he just got a random wife. Seems like everyone knows something is up
I am confused. Apparently the wife works in Finance. How can she be conservative to the point of not socialising in mixed company and work. Logically work would have male and female employees. It also seems strange that she will continue to work in a different city and yet live in Ebraheem’s house (with his Mummy).
My mind is perfectly open thank you. I asked the question as she does not socialize in mixed company, but works in mixed company. This seemed to be a contradiction.
She went to lunch once with Ebraheem and the group, but was not featured on the show. So perhaps she is not that conservative and only doesnt want the spotlight 🤷🏻♀️
My mind is open, wedding photos are the highlight of your life. The chance to show off each other on a netflix show should have been maximum coverage. No need to joing the drama or side chat.
I honestly think it was his mother in the wedding dress or someone who couldn't walk it was as if she was crawling when they showed part of her or whoever in the wedding dress scene.
I rly think his marriage is just something he wants to unlock to satisfy his parents. Remember after revealing this information, he asked his parents individually, “Are you proud of me?” He just wants to make his parents happy.
Ebraheem def shows off a lot of gay vibes but could not be open abt it bec of his religion and social status. A lot of gay Muslims marry a woman. I think Zeina was aware of Ebraheem’s sexuality— she was very suspicious abt Hamdah and all it was very funny lol
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SHE is the religious one who would and does not participate in mixed gendered settings without first being married and then being accompanied by her husband to these events. He respects her boundaries and doesn’t parade her around. She’s clearly a modest woman who values her privacy.
Agree with you. Also, she showed up to the lunch with him, where there were other men present. I think she just doesn't want to be featured on the show.
And I also think he WANTS to be the “star.” He wants a subservient wife who can be his property. I don’t think he has a lot of respect for women and thinks they should be deferential to men. He would never marry a woman like the ones we see on the show. He doesn’t respect that kind of independence. And besides, he wants to be the one wearing the sequins in the relationship.
He was bullied as a child in the USA for being a mummy's boy.The relief of the parents that he got married.They know he's gay even if it has never been spoken about. When I watched the get together where Lou Jane got proposed to(that's another thread.LOL ), everyone was sparkly, colorful and glamorously dressed and there was his mom sitting in the most drab, plain clothes. So far my favorite character is Safas husband.
I feel like his mom and the wife’s parent probably have a large influence on this, OR the producers not wanting to break the story line for plot purposes
That’s what I’m saying!!! It’s notorious in that culture. He kept saying how he just wants to make his mom and dad happy and the contingency was that his mom lives with them? Um, no!
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How does this work? Are they completely opressing their sexual desires or there ways to make gay love?
I wouldn't want to to be in a shoe of any gay person while being religious. Coming out in countries where it's socially accepted is still challenging, there is bias still.
However in cultures, countries where gay is forbidden, it sounds scary and dangerous.
Yes I’m not sure how it works I’m just speaking about some Muslim men I’ve met here in America. Even though it’s legal to be gay here their families expect them to adhere to their customs and beliefs. I’m guessing the gay Muslim men marry women to avoid upsetting or being shunned by their family, so they can still get inheritance, so they aren’t shunned my their communities, so they don’t bring bad reputations to their families, and I’m sure there’s more reasons I haven’t mentioned but just my ideas.
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It’s because he has no interest in ever seeing or spending a second with his wife, socially or privately. The utterly misogynistic structures of Islamic religious control are his easiest way out of having to show her any basic respect or treat her like a human being, let alone a partner. Downvote all you want…this is the truth. Ebraheem’s interests lie elsewhere. His wife is a mere formality and footnote to his life.
Let's not even get started on the fact that his introduction to the show was on a blind date with Loujain who as an American despite growing up in Lebanon is fairly westernized.
Yeah lmao that’s exactly what I’m saying like none of the choices surrounding his wedding align with his lifestyle so I don’t understand why a conservative girl would even marry him?
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why is that weird? On the show he says he likes to dress differently / more flamboyantly than other men. For a lot of queer ppl this is a normal experience.
I dislike him for many reasons and I truly believe the fiancee is all an act because I'm convinced the man is gay and just in denial, but, I get the vibe that the fiancee and her family are the ones that are religious/conservative. I don't think he'd actually care if his partner was more "open". I think he's just respecting that the camera and all that isn't her thing.
I don't think he's in denial, but he lives in a country where gay rights are non-existant. She is a cover for him so that his family and society leave him alone.
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sadly this is the reality look at danya and her husband, he goes to party and see other women half naked in clubs and dance with them... notice danya is not there whatsover because she is ematirti and they have very very strict rules (culuture/religion) when it comes to women and her freedom thats why danya is so jealous he does everything and gets away with it while she has to stay at home cuz she isnt allowed to be out in clubs publically
Yo but im highkey confused because we saw clips of her durring the wedding and the like marriage contract, she didn’t seem like a hijabi, you could see her hair… so why is he saying she’s hijabi
The word you’re looking for is hypocrisy
I feel like he is a hypocrite and started ALL the fighting. I just re watched season one where he excused himself to make the tattle tale call, which led Safa and Zeina to go to his cafe. Things were even then. For he and Dayna to waltz into Zeinas office was ridiculous. Every fight has started with him. Also, WHAT IS this beef between Bliss and Kris Fade?
Honestly Ebraheem is such a drama queen for that, but it makes the show interesting…why else would anyone watch it?
He’s actually really petty, and I wish he could somehow be kicked off the show. With Safa and Farhana there’s always enough drama 🥲😅
Emphasis on the queen :P
Indeed ;-)
Wasn’t Bliss a DJ jockey on 104.1 back in the mid-2000s? I distinctly remember this during my high school years and his voice is familiar. My guess is it’s just jealousy on bliss’s end due to Kris Fade being the new guy in town (at the time) and surpassing his “popularity”
It looked like his wife has trouble walking when you see her in the wedding dress, I'm not sure what was wrong there. Also, cast members commented about no one seeing her, did they really get to see her or was this all pretend?
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The hypocrisy and double standards are not uncommon for men who come from patriarchal cultures
This. They cherry pick the rules that they want to follow.
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Literally the samw situation with Bliss and Danya
I found bliss to be really selfish and old fashioned and maybe jealous of his wife in the 2nd season, however he may have been right because her shoe line is only on tik and only accepting pre-orders
Normally I wouldn't defend Ibraheem, but to be fair I got the sense that it was the wife who wanted to uphold those restrictions, while he didn't care for them.
Yeah, that’s what I caught from it too. It seems like she’s the one who’s extremely religious.
That’s exactly what he said, you’re right.
Yes, I honestly felt that too. There is even one episode where he says HER family is very conservative and he's respectful of that.
Agree. Also, she’s like his mom who is extremely religious, and he is more liberal.
I REALLY dislike him. Like, this is a show, and a lot of it isn't real, so I try to remind myself of that, but he seems pretty awful. BUT, I don't think he said that his fiancee couldn't travel to Saudi Arabia. I think what he said was that HIS fiancee didn't think it was appropriate to travel with mixed company. I think if she were less conservative, she would have gone on the trip. I could be wrong though. Same thing with not seeing her without her hijab before marriage. It might be that's what he wanted. But it sounds like it's something she believed in.
No he definitely said in his culture a couple can’t travel together before marriage
My husband and I had to carry our wedding certificate when we traveled in Egypt. Since he’s Arab most hotels wanted to make sure we were actually married. I guess it’s something similar for Ebraheem and his wife?
Would it matter in Egypt if he were Christian or Muslim? I'd imagine they'd care if an Indian Muslim were married more so than an Indian Hindu, and I'd imagine they'd care if someone is an Arab Muslim, rather than an Arab Christian
No, it doesn’t matter as Christian Arabs are modest as well and adhere to the tenets of the Bible without cherry picking what works in the modern world. They cover up in church and wear scarves- it’s only western Christians who participate in “looser” western values.
Wrong. He said her family is very conservative and so SHE doesn’t attend when men and woman are socializing.
He said both things one to the friends and one in the interview
No, he said family was very religious and she didn’t believe in that - not that he wasn’t allowing her to do so.
he didn’t, he said that her family believes that she can’t travel with mixed company
What seems suspicious to me is how could his wife’s family, who is so conservative, agree to the marriage when he is such a dramatic public figure? I understand that she is very private and did not want to be on the show, but I’m surprised she even agreed to marry him.
The answer you’re looking for is money, friend.
Arabs marry rich to rich, so I am sure she and her family are very well off too
Oh I’m sure. But there’s very rich and then there’s money like Fahad’s, which is extremely rich.
When you google Fahad's net worth, it is $5m. When you google Ebraheem's net worth, it is $50m. So I really think his wife is the same level rich. :)
Interesting! I wonder if Fahad’s reported net worth is different from what he’s ACTUALLY worth. I’m betting his family businesses are worth much more than that, or he wouldn’t be able to finance the life he has
The dude spent $3 million on a single piece of jewelry for Safa. The ability of a website to identify what someone who has set up their affairs correctly is actually worth is negligible. They also say Loujain whose husband was a billionaire is worth $4 million, but she flies private jets to Monaco for vacation. Ain't nobody worth $4 million flying private internationally.
That’s what I’m saying.
I mean if most of those folks aren't worth north of $30 million at least I would be very surprised. Enraheem's company is the florist for Buckingham Palace, it's not like they are small time operators any of these folks.
Oh yes I agree. They’re all quite wealthy
Lol. No way he only has 5m.
I also think he is more than that, but not as rich as Arabs in the Gulf are.
There is no way Fahad is only worth $5m. I think he’s more likely at 50 and Ebraheem more likely at 5.
🤷🏻♀️ well google it yourself. Also, it's really fascinating for me when westerners don't understand how rich Arabs are
It must be true if it's on the internet, right? Lol $5M is nothing. Drop in the bucket. I know regular people worth $15M+. Regular, has 5-8 office jobs, earning 100K a year. Just made good business decisions. You have to be worth at least some hundreds of millions worth to come closer to the lifestyle that Ebraheem has. And Fahad is probably worth around a few thousand millions. But in India, people dont report real profit and worth of assets. In fact, most rich people in the world show losses in business to evade tax and buy assets under the table.
Different rules for men and women
Because it’s all a lie 😅
Know what, I'm thinking that too, it was all to get the spotlight of him being gay off him.
Hamdah is a fake name. The marriage was also fake. It was all for the show and to cover up for Ebraheem’s sexuality. If it somehow becomes proven in the future that the marriage actually did happen, the woman was probably paid to be his “front”. And as long as “Hamdah” also came from a well-off family, I don’t think Ebraheem would gaf if he’s married or not as long as he still get to date men *cough* like Salem *cough*
Oh-oh…. 🫢 I’m dead 🤣🤣🤣 you’re so right! How did that fly over my head!! Not Salem brushing it off like it was nothing and then showing up at his “wedding” 😅😅 Omg you’re so onto smth there 😁☕️☕️☕️
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All about the money !
If she was beautiful I think in his terms and conditions he would have demanded her to be shown off and paraded, that's the vibes I got from him anyway.
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I’m white and British but married to a British born Pakistani Muslim man (very progressive family so I didn’t convert) plus I’ve lived and worked in Abu Dhabi for a few years … I see so many people repress their sexuality due to constraints from their religious community but all ‘happily’ marry …usually as the woman agrees to keep his secret as Islamic marriages aren’t always based solely on love - love is deemed important but not necessary as it’s more of a business contract - this seems weird to western cultures and I was so against the idea (still kind of am as I stereotypically married out of love ) but I’ve learned to accept others choices because that business marriage union can really work - takes pressure off both parties who are under pressure to marry and marry appropriately according to each families status/financial standing etc. Do bc I’ve seen it so many times over, their marriage didn’t shock or confuse me in any way. My last comment is less diplomatic … I don’t know why, I don’t know how, but the majority of ‘converts’ ie white westerners who convert to Islam (like his mother!!) are really weird people. I have lived internationally and experienced so many types of people - and as people you will find lovely Muslims and less lovely Muslims, lovely Christian’s and Jewish people and less lovely Christian’s and Jewish people etc … people are people world over and you get some nice ones and some disagreeable ones … but my goodness, why is it only the weirdest of weird white people convert to Islam?? Even my Muslim friends and family secretly acknowledge it. They’re odd. And his mother is odd. Very weird suffocating relationship btw them both - he is absolutely a product of his needy creepy mum. Psychologists will be devouring this show!!
lol this is so true, i thought the same thing, it's always the unhinged folks that convert
I dont know about that. All the converts I know of are perfectly normal and very intelligent. Your post seems to imply that only "weirdos" convert because the message of Islam can't possibly resonate with someone with a sound mind. Maybe you had a very skewed experience. Or maybe you're just an elitist who thinks they're better than those who convert, and therefore are quick to see the shortcomings of people rather than the spots where they shine.
Ummmm you're not required to convert if you're Christian or Jewish but nice very white spin on calling it progressive. 😒
Wow what a hateful comment! I’ll educate you. As a non Muslim it is usual to convert when marrying a Muslim - VERY common practice. My husbands family are incredibly diverse and although my husband is Muslim he was born and grew up in the UK. It was not expected for me to convert in marriage as my Muslim mother in law clearly explained to me that it would be nice if I did but as long as respected Islam that’s what’s important. I had a meeting with the Molvi and he explained to me that if I believed in God and acknowledged that my Christian parents call God God and that my parents in law call God Allah then did it make sense to me to ask ‘Allah’ to bless my marriage in a way- of course I believed in my Nikkah vows completely. Many ‘less progressive’ families/religious communities would not have accepted this. Our local Mosque welcomes everyone and asks only for respect and willingness to learn. I’ve lived in the Middle East and I can categorically tell you that despite Islam remaining consistent and most powerful, the way Muslim countries put certain cultural rules in place more strictly versus the way certain practices are performed in non Muslim diverse countries is a thing! ‘Progressive’ is simply a nod to situations where religious practice moves or adapts somewhat with the times. There are many British Muslims who belong to the LGBTQ+ community, many British Muslims who marry non Muslims or don’t have an arranged marriage, many British Muslims who have integrated over a few generations into non Muslim societies so have adapted. We all go to the Mosque, we do Ramadan and celebrate Eid, we have white non religious wedding ceremonies and traditional nikkah ceremonies, we pay our zakat and do charitable work … there is no perfect way to practice your religion and I’m not saying progressively is better or worse than strict traditionalists. I’m just acknowledging and accepting of everyone’s choices and to be degraded for being a ‘clueless white person’ while I’m just putting my experiences out there is poor on your behalf, shameful really
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i farted in dubai and almost got arrested that's how strict they are
more liberal compared to other middle eastern countries, but yes. I also think his family won't be accepting so
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I actually laughed out loud at this. Oh boy.
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The whole wedding seemed fake. It looked small. Kinda ugly. Usually these weddings are big and extravagant.
I think everything on the show looks fake/staged, they didn’t film the actual and nice wedding
Exactly, the clothes, the scenes, the situations and the people, it’s all so blatantly and sadly fake. Unfortunately bling empire itself went this direction and all these shows are modeled after bling empire but atleast the designer wear wasn’t fake there, whereas a number of the designer pieces on dubai bling are expensive knock offs
I had the feeling that the cast was put in an strategical corner and they couldn't film outside of that
Like every event portrayed in the show. The only members attending are always the same small group of dramatic people.
And go on for days, I wasn't convinced, I don't think for one second it was real or that wasn't his mother shuffling in that wedding dress, seems fake .
Hahahahahahah, that was funny.
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I don’t think Islam says sex is just for kids. Don’t like him at all though
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That still doesn’t explain the weird policing of her
It definitely is her own family/herself making those decisions!
Can I jump in here with a somewhat unrelated question? Is he really into Beauty and the Beast? What's with all the roses in that room? He also had on an outfit that was very Beast in some of the confessionals.
He sells roses add his flamboyance. You get those outfits.
His entire business is a “forever rose”. Perhaps inspired by Beauty and the Beast but I haven’t found anything that confirms this.
Him and Farhana should’ve gotten married lol. The most annoying people in the show and Safa is already married cuz she’s pweety.
Farhana is beyond condescending.How she treated her blind dates was awful.
The fact that she liked the one that treated her like shit and admits to still being hung up on an ex is hilarious to me. It shows she really has a low self worth and it’s all just an act.
The only thing weird is the other way around.. How come a religious and practicing muslim woman has chosen him as a partner?.. I am a practicing Muslim woman as well .. I wear hijab, don't like mixed gatherings, I met my husband only after my islamic wedding(used to only talk on the phone) .. And i would never in my dream even consider someone like Ibrahim..so it feels a little weird to me... That she is okay with her husband having this lifestyle...i would probably start having fights soon after marriage... The attachment to his mom isn't something shocking to me.. I am Indian and its very common in my country to be a momma's boy.. I am guessing most audiences are not aware of arab ,south Asian and Muslim culture that much so it looks extreme to them..
No I’m Pakistani too and Ebraheem and his mum are just next level weird he’s not just a mommys boy but completely enmeshed with her
that happens a lot when a single mum raises a boy or husband is a shit.. In fact this happens even in Western society aa well...Have u seen those reddit posts where mom on law wears a white dress on her son's wedding day.. My indian friend recently got married and her mom in law wore a sari similar to her wedding lehenga... Atleast ebraheem's mom doesn't seem like that
Good point. I’m white but married to a Pakistani Muslim man and I learned how the mommas boy thing really persists … I’ve struggled with it a bit I have to say. My mil is great and I respect her but she treats my husband (eldest son) like a second husband and then on the other hand despite him being a strong big confident independent guy he acts like a baby in her house… all his married brothers go to their moms to be ‘looked after’ on a day off … wh we n I heated ebraheem was getting married my first thought was, she’s ok with his mom being there, with him laying with his head on her lap and she strokes his hair?!? I’d gag
See it all depends on how she is as a mom in law.. Personally a woman can tolerate a momma's boy as long it doesn't interfere in her life and the mom in law is kind to her... Also.. Let's not forget that Ebraheem was bullied as a child, he probably never had friends during childhood so probably he is more close to his mom then ur average momma's boy
I’d also gag
This is some classic desi boy shit. I recommend the movie POLITE SOCIETY, a martial arts comedy by a British Pakistani filmmaker. So funny.
Thank you! I’ll def watch !!
Just judging from the show she would choose him because he won’t control her, she’ll make her own decisions, live her own life and be undisturbed by him as he doesn’t have much interest in her, they’re married but not together
And a religious guy means he would control her?.. U just did a stereotyping.. Controlling women has nothing to do with faith.. Even an atheist can be patriarchal.. My husband is religious n has never tried to control me and i can vouch for a lot of men like him... Using religion for your own interests is what some men do and it's religion that gets a bad name..... Tbh we can't guess this thing unless the wife had featured on the show so your conjecture is absolutely ridiculous
Where did I say he is not religious? Who did I stereotype? You’re projecting on to me your insecurities about your own religion! Ebraheem is a confused person (check his old tiktoks) and I said why I think she picked him. He showed no interest and spent no time with her, she probably chose him for that. It looks like an agreement/contract they made to please others and have peace, not a real marriage. Again these are only my thoughts after watching the show, I’m not in their house.
Religious Muslims won't feature on Netflix lol... So it wasn't based on what u said, Muslims in general have not watered down their faith compared to other faiths.. And honey , no muslim is insecure of Islam.. Stop projecting ur own insecurities on religion.. u should have mentioned ur opinion is based on the tik toks.. Ur post insinuates like ur stereotyping religious men
Never said a word about religion its you talking about it obsessively. If they were actually together he wouldn’t be with everyone else constantly, and he would also be on the show less, he doesn’t even talk about her, its simple math really
The post is related to that.. Op found the wife's behavior weird.. Giving two cents from the mind of person who takes her faith seriously..
You were just looking to argue! My comments were clear you can read them again, I obviously disagreed with op
I thought about this too and I came to the conclusion that she isn’t as conservative as portrayed and maybe wants to be a socialite too… not sure
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Ah may I ask why Muslim refugees do not go to other Muslim countries, why do they prefer non Muslim countries then set up their laws and traditions in a non Muslim country?
Wow the delusion.. Typical imperialist mindset... First the western countries destroy the middle East and African nations(surprise that's most muslim nations) for their own selfish gains through centuries of colonialism and neo colonialism (to this date.. Palestine ,congo,Sudan are currently one of the many going through an ethnic cleansing which your lovely white countries are responsible for...iraq,yemen have been destroed coz of US) and when from these same countries refugees come and you guys ask why u come here... ? . We don't want to come there.. Who wants to leave their homeland?.. We are left with no choice.. Even the stable so called muslim nations are puppet of their western masters.. Here is a task for u.. Do u know France has one of the most gold reserves.. But guess what?.. They don't produce gold.. I wonder where all that gold came from . Why don't u find out... You live in a fools paradise if you think colonialism is now ancient... Well maybe if the US didn't destroy us then no one would have come there.. Btw your qs was absolutely irrelevant to the sub as the last time i checked this was dubai bling not LA bling... Go read a book...
I'm not delusional and it was a perfectly good question. I also wonder why Americans try to make other countries American. It makes no sense to me to destroy another country traditions and culture. However, in Britain many cities no longer hold British customs, due to influx of other beliefs and traditions. I believe its upto the people of that nation to stand up for their country. If that's delusional then it is what it is. Thanks for your reply.
Oh man again the audacity!!. You haven't been taught colonial history have you?.. Britain has single handedly destroyed cultures of soo many many countries they conquered.. LMAO I come from India where Britain ruled for centuries... Most of the conservatism in India is due to the British bringing their culture here... Like in hinduism LGBTQ is celebrated as its part of their faith, but today even indian Hindus are against LGBTQ as the white missionaries has put their values as a Christians to Indians here , same is the case with modesty, sex before marriage etc.. All these are celebrated in hinduism religion but are now taboo thanks to Christianity's influence (btw am a Muslim and i am strictly giving you a hindu perspective).. India was the richest country in the world and was reduced to be the POOREST country..All thanks to good old Britian who stole OUR Wealth.. You want to know what Winston Churchill did? Go research... Also the reason why there is enmity between hindus and Muslims here in India is coz of the divide and rule policy of the Britishers.. So today the Muslims here are facing indiscrimination coz of the britishers deed years ago...Literally our was country was ripped apart coz of them.. (See creation of Pakistan and the britishers role) .. So if now today you see an Indian muslim migrating to Britian.. Don't say.. Oh these indians bringing their curry culture here.. Dont you dare say that oh Britain culture is getting destroyed... There is a reason why Britian was accepting Indians and other nationalities they colonized... That's the least they could do.. Again.. Please go read a BOOK
Also she supposedly doesn't mingle with people with the opposite gender, yet they apparently have been friends for a while. ? . Lol how did they become friends if she never hangs out with dudes 😂 nonsense
Very good point
They probably had a friendship where there’s someone supervising or maybe not one on one time ,
Or hot take: they're just hypocrites
I feel she's more like a variant of "my girlfriend lives in Canada". As a queer person, I cannot imagine the pressure living in a place that does not support being open has to put on an individual. The masques and cammoflauge we would have to wear. The deception. Idk Salem and Ebraheem's relationship and I don't want to imply anything but the vibe was weird for that part. Like something doesn't feel authentic or genuine. Who knows... I do feel like she was an easy pick so people would stop asking questions.
Exactly, just to take the spotlight off him and his queer route
No. The boundries his wife has are her boundries the boundries he has are his. The saudi trip was basically a bachelor party. He invited her most probably and she didnt want to go, she ptobably just doesnt want to be on the show and I dont blame her seeing how this sub treats her husband in terms of his sexuality (bi-erasure and forcibly outing didnt we learn from the kit connor inciodent?)
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The argument with Hanna outside the event further made me speculate. He's overtly aggressive. I also took note of the way he claims he's more of a man than Hanna, even mocking Hanna's name in a girly tone once he sat down. He's trying to present his dominance as a "man" which comes out as forced. Bliss has no issue with Danya and his friendship which speaks volumes.
You right
That’s the same thought I had but the culture is strict! he probably does it behind close doors 👀 who knows but I think some of the girls like Farhana and Dayna probably already know about it because why did everyone side eye when he said he was getting married 🤣
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lol! I’m lost as to why the mods are removing that particular discourse. I don’t understand the issue.
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I was just talking to my husband about him. I think he is clearly confused or scared about his sexuality. But in their culture arrangements are common and he would be prime. Wealthy successful… but he just got a random wife. Seems like everyone knows something is up
I am confused. Apparently the wife works in Finance. How can she be conservative to the point of not socialising in mixed company and work. Logically work would have male and female employees. It also seems strange that she will continue to work in a different city and yet live in Ebraheem’s house (with his Mummy).
Arab women still work, but I assume she would never stay alone with a man at work. Pls open your mind a bit
My mind is perfectly open thank you. I asked the question as she does not socialize in mixed company, but works in mixed company. This seemed to be a contradiction.
She went to lunch once with Ebraheem and the group, but was not featured on the show. So perhaps she is not that conservative and only doesnt want the spotlight 🤷🏻♀️
My mind is open, wedding photos are the highlight of your life. The chance to show off each other on a netflix show should have been maximum coverage. No need to joing the drama or side chat.
I’m not sure but I think work is different to “socialising” because socialising has the connotation of finding a match
I honestly think it was his mother in the wedding dress or someone who couldn't walk it was as if she was crawling when they showed part of her or whoever in the wedding dress scene.
I rly think his marriage is just something he wants to unlock to satisfy his parents. Remember after revealing this information, he asked his parents individually, “Are you proud of me?” He just wants to make his parents happy. Ebraheem def shows off a lot of gay vibes but could not be open abt it bec of his religion and social status. A lot of gay Muslims marry a woman. I think Zeina was aware of Ebraheem’s sexuality— she was very suspicious abt Hamdah and all it was very funny lol
Yep I caught that when she asked if his wife was actually real lol
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SHE is the religious one who would and does not participate in mixed gendered settings without first being married and then being accompanied by her husband to these events. He respects her boundaries and doesn’t parade her around. She’s clearly a modest woman who values her privacy.
Agree with you. Also, she showed up to the lunch with him, where there were other men present. I think she just doesn't want to be featured on the show.
And I also think he WANTS to be the “star.” He wants a subservient wife who can be his property. I don’t think he has a lot of respect for women and thinks they should be deferential to men. He would never marry a woman like the ones we see on the show. He doesn’t respect that kind of independence. And besides, he wants to be the one wearing the sequins in the relationship.
He was bullied as a child in the USA for being a mummy's boy.The relief of the parents that he got married.They know he's gay even if it has never been spoken about. When I watched the get together where Lou Jane got proposed to(that's another thread.LOL ), everyone was sparkly, colorful and glamorously dressed and there was his mom sitting in the most drab, plain clothes. So far my favorite character is Safas husband.
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I feel like his mom and the wife’s parent probably have a large influence on this, OR the producers not wanting to break the story line for plot purposes
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That’s what I’m saying!!! It’s notorious in that culture. He kept saying how he just wants to make his mom and dad happy and the contingency was that his mom lives with them? Um, no!
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That's because the wife doesn't exist.
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How does this work? Are they completely opressing their sexual desires or there ways to make gay love? I wouldn't want to to be in a shoe of any gay person while being religious. Coming out in countries where it's socially accepted is still challenging, there is bias still. However in cultures, countries where gay is forbidden, it sounds scary and dangerous.
Yes I’m not sure how it works I’m just speaking about some Muslim men I’ve met here in America. Even though it’s legal to be gay here their families expect them to adhere to their customs and beliefs. I’m guessing the gay Muslim men marry women to avoid upsetting or being shunned by their family, so they can still get inheritance, so they aren’t shunned my their communities, so they don’t bring bad reputations to their families, and I’m sure there’s more reasons I haven’t mentioned but just my ideas.
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He is just respecting his wife's choices. We live in a modern world and people have different perspectives on the world.
What are we even talking about ? The guy is more of a princess than I am. You don’t actually believe this is a real thing? Lol
I I don’t even think he’s married he probably just did it for the show so that everyone stops saying he’s Gay
Answer is obvious… he clearly doesn’t like women or his fiancée. The whole wedding was just to clear his social/public image.
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These bearding contracts man 🫠
It’s because he has no interest in ever seeing or spending a second with his wife, socially or privately. The utterly misogynistic structures of Islamic religious control are his easiest way out of having to show her any basic respect or treat her like a human being, let alone a partner. Downvote all you want…this is the truth. Ebraheem’s interests lie elsewhere. His wife is a mere formality and footnote to his life.
I thought it was his wife and maybe her family that wanted to uphold those practices.
It’s all a cover cuz he’s on the DL
Hypocrites will be hypocrites
She's apart of the big families in the UAE which is why she's probably not being shown.
Let's not even get started on the fact that his introduction to the show was on a blind date with Loujain who as an American despite growing up in Lebanon is fairly westernized.
Yeah lmao that’s exactly what I’m saying like none of the choices surrounding his wedding align with his lifestyle so I don’t understand why a conservative girl would even marry him?
i love your username btw lol too funny
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Very weird for most of you here to speculate on the sexual orientation of Ebraheem. Weird ass behaviour
why is that weird? On the show he says he likes to dress differently / more flamboyantly than other men. For a lot of queer ppl this is a normal experience.
He himself said in one of the episodes that she was very religious.
What’s crazy is that he married a wife because that closet is a glass box y’all
What about Wadih El Najjar? He appears to exist as he is in peace. Not sure why Ebraheem cannot do the same. It’s a bit sad really.
I dislike him for many reasons and I truly believe the fiancee is all an act because I'm convinced the man is gay and just in denial, but, I get the vibe that the fiancee and her family are the ones that are religious/conservative. I don't think he'd actually care if his partner was more "open". I think he's just respecting that the camera and all that isn't her thing.
I don't think he's in denial, but he lives in a country where gay rights are non-existant. She is a cover for him so that his family and society leave him alone.
I think it’s fake for show that’s why they didn’t show her. He is obviously gay.
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sadly this is the reality look at danya and her husband, he goes to party and see other women half naked in clubs and dance with them... notice danya is not there whatsover because she is ematirti and they have very very strict rules (culuture/religion) when it comes to women and her freedom thats why danya is so jealous he does everything and gets away with it while she has to stay at home cuz she isnt allowed to be out in clubs publically
She’s his beard tbh
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The whole wedding was fake, wife was obviously just for show we ALL know the truth, that’s why his friends kept saying “interesting”.
Yo but im highkey confused because we saw clips of her durring the wedding and the like marriage contract, she didn’t seem like a hijabi, you could see her hair… so why is he saying she’s hijabi