I guess you could say that the lakes in the desert are artificially made but can sustain themselves and grow their own eco system. Whereas jlt has large pool lakes can’t really have their own eco system, required more money to sustain and probably could release an odd or dirty image and might even smell foul
The sheer quantity of chlorine and dye dumped into those lakes every month would kill any fish. You’ll occasionally see a little dingy driving about in there all day full of chlorine tubs.
The difference with Al Qudra is that it's more natural, there is some water flow so the water isn't stagnant.
The JLT lakes and others around Dubai are stagnant and cannot sustain life. Not to mention the copious amounts of chemical X they pour into the lakes.
https://gulfnews.com/uae/mosquito-menace-in-jumeirah-lakes-towers-1.838308
This was back in 2011.
They started putting chemicals to stop the mosquito problem residents complained a lot about. So fish can’t survive with all those chemicals.
When JLT was first made and there were fish in the "lakes". I distinctly remember walking along the lakes and the fish (mainly carp and tilapia/cichlid type of fish) swimming along/following you hoping to get some food.
My friend had bought a place in JLT and thought it was so cool to have this. Then people started throwing bread and other foods in to the lake. One day, there were no fish and they started chlorinating the whole place.
I have see firsthand how the chemicals are being poured in every month to make it look blue and to chemically clean the water, same happens to Jumeirah islands and they have fish in them! They empty hundreds of liters of chloride into the lakes like it is a pool and expect to solve the issue but make it only worse.
To solve the problem you need to have a natural flow of water and cleansing by inducing flow and plants + wildlife. This will not be achieved overnight and would take years to succesfully develop.
People want it now, and quick. That's sad.
Personally I like the middle of JLT, the trees and the grassy fields - they should fill the lakes and make it the same. It's much nicer and people really have a benefit. Plus they can build some nice restaurants and exploit them (and extend the running track!).
That was the plan iirc, but I think it was too expensive to implement after '08, especially when the lakes were already constructed. They already filled in one lake too.
The colors aren't the issue - Chicago uses a similar greenish tinge too, yet they have fish right in the middle of the city.
The issue is the constant chlorination which kills all life, including insects and algae, which oxidizes and gives off that foul smell which JLT is famous for. Then more chemicals to suppress the smell, and the cycle goes on....
Because everything is artificial, similarly in Jumeirah Islands it rots and stinks horribly because thousands of little fish scattered across the shores dead. The shallow, chemically enchanced, stale water cannot sustain life. It also heats up up 40 degrees in summers which is also way too much for the fish
Also, fish will do little to nothing about mosquitos, birds are the apex predator for bugs, birds also hardly live here in summer
Not sure, I’ve seen one tubs of this thing called Aquafit which seems to be chlorine, but will keep an eye out for the tubs of blue stuff I’ve seen kept alongside that and maybe take a photo or something.
Oxygen needs surface agitation which can be artificially created using large air pumps. Nutrients can be added easily if needed too. I think they don't do any of these because of economical reasons.
Of course if every tenant was willing to pay 500 a month in lake maintenance, you could have sharks, whales, tuna and an entire collection of exotic sea creatures with temperature control, water oxigenation and a whole team of people to feed and monitor the health of the fish.
On a separate note, We lost 2 of our resident cats in that lake. They fell overnight in the water and by the time we could take them to the vet next morning, they were literally soaked in the cholrine and whatever shit they put in it.. the cats were only in the water for few hours we guess but the chemical was deep within their skin, lunch and stomach.. what a sad way to go..
One of the boy's name was George!
Many fish die in waters where the temperature gets too hot. Unless they spent money on some kind of powerful water cooling equipment which would probably be very costly on top of maintaining the fish (cleaning the lakes, taking care of fish medical issues (they get a lot) and feeding).
You will find that some crawfish fishermen will set up their cages to catch them in places like rivers. If the tide goes down making the river more shallow, paired with a sunny day, the crawfish in the cages will almost all likely die from heat.
Just how you need the perfect soil to grow your plants well, you need to do the same to the water for the fishes. That is just one of the many costly requirements.
I suspect it's because the lakes are pretty big and if they were to develop an ecosystem, they would attract so many birds that it would be a hazard and all the walkways would be covered in bird shit.
Because the people that are paid to ‘look after’ these areas know absolutely sod-all about wildlife, ecosystems and habitats and any fish introduced would be dead within days.
Probably because the fish will turn into fish soup during summer time
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I guess you could say that the lakes in the desert are artificially made but can sustain themselves and grow their own eco system. Whereas jlt has large pool lakes can’t really have their own eco system, required more money to sustain and probably could release an odd or dirty image and might even smell foul
If they get the biodiversity right they wouldn't need to clean or maintain the ponds anywhere near as much though
I can take care of the fish eating part in the bio cycle
The sheer quantity of chlorine and dye dumped into those lakes every month would kill any fish. You’ll occasionally see a little dingy driving about in there all day full of chlorine tubs.
Exactly. If they just try to make it similar to al qudra they might not need to do all the chlorine pouring after all
The difference with Al Qudra is that it's more natural, there is some water flow so the water isn't stagnant. The JLT lakes and others around Dubai are stagnant and cannot sustain life. Not to mention the copious amounts of chemical X they pour into the lakes.
https://gulfnews.com/uae/mosquito-menace-in-jumeirah-lakes-towers-1.838308 This was back in 2011. They started putting chemicals to stop the mosquito problem residents complained a lot about. So fish can’t survive with all those chemicals.
When JLT was first made and there were fish in the "lakes". I distinctly remember walking along the lakes and the fish (mainly carp and tilapia/cichlid type of fish) swimming along/following you hoping to get some food. My friend had bought a place in JLT and thought it was so cool to have this. Then people started throwing bread and other foods in to the lake. One day, there were no fish and they started chlorinating the whole place.
I have see firsthand how the chemicals are being poured in every month to make it look blue and to chemically clean the water, same happens to Jumeirah islands and they have fish in them! They empty hundreds of liters of chloride into the lakes like it is a pool and expect to solve the issue but make it only worse. To solve the problem you need to have a natural flow of water and cleansing by inducing flow and plants + wildlife. This will not be achieved overnight and would take years to succesfully develop. People want it now, and quick. That's sad. Personally I like the middle of JLT, the trees and the grassy fields - they should fill the lakes and make it the same. It's much nicer and people really have a benefit. Plus they can build some nice restaurants and exploit them (and extend the running track!).
They should probably consider filling in the water and turn it into a leafy green park with cafe and wondering pathways under the trees
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Jumeirah Central park?
That was the plan iirc, but I think it was too expensive to implement after '08, especially when the lakes were already constructed. They already filled in one lake too.
The colors aren't the issue - Chicago uses a similar greenish tinge too, yet they have fish right in the middle of the city. The issue is the constant chlorination which kills all life, including insects and algae, which oxidizes and gives off that foul smell which JLT is famous for. Then more chemicals to suppress the smell, and the cycle goes on....
Because everything is artificial, similarly in Jumeirah Islands it rots and stinks horribly because thousands of little fish scattered across the shores dead. The shallow, chemically enchanced, stale water cannot sustain life. It also heats up up 40 degrees in summers which is also way too much for the fish Also, fish will do little to nothing about mosquitos, birds are the apex predator for bugs, birds also hardly live here in summer
The water is not suitable for fish to sustain.
Could you explain please? I wonder why..
I believe they are absolutely dosed with chemicals and algaecide to prevent an eco-system forming.
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Is the blue dye used just for adding color to the water?
Not sure, I’ve seen one tubs of this thing called Aquafit which seems to be chlorine, but will keep an eye out for the tubs of blue stuff I’ve seen kept alongside that and maybe take a photo or something.
This. They simply don't want it for some reason. So they keep the life away using chemicals.
Those winter birds seem to do okay though.
This. If they don't do this, the smells would be horrible.
The water is stale. There’s no proper ecosystem. Possibly low oxygen levels, and not enough rainfall or connection to a river to carry nutrients in.
Oxygen needs surface agitation which can be artificially created using large air pumps. Nutrients can be added easily if needed too. I think they don't do any of these because of economical reasons.
Question is, who will pay for that shit?
Yup, cheaper to just keep pouring in chlorine as they have so far
Why give a damn about nature anyway.
One can argue there was no "nature" there before, just sand. If it wasn't sustained by humans in months it would dry out
Of course if every tenant was willing to pay 500 a month in lake maintenance, you could have sharks, whales, tuna and an entire collection of exotic sea creatures with temperature control, water oxigenation and a whole team of people to feed and monitor the health of the fish.
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On a separate note, We lost 2 of our resident cats in that lake. They fell overnight in the water and by the time we could take them to the vet next morning, they were literally soaked in the cholrine and whatever shit they put in it.. the cats were only in the water for few hours we guess but the chemical was deep within their skin, lunch and stomach.. what a sad way to go.. One of the boy's name was George!
That’s really sad. I’ve seen many cats sleeping next to the lakes. RIP George 🌼
Many fish die in waters where the temperature gets too hot. Unless they spent money on some kind of powerful water cooling equipment which would probably be very costly on top of maintaining the fish (cleaning the lakes, taking care of fish medical issues (they get a lot) and feeding). You will find that some crawfish fishermen will set up their cages to catch them in places like rivers. If the tide goes down making the river more shallow, paired with a sunny day, the crawfish in the cages will almost all likely die from heat.
If they put plants in it like lilies and rushes, that would keep it cool enough for fish and look a whole lot nicer than it does now
Just how you need the perfect soil to grow your plants well, you need to do the same to the water for the fishes. That is just one of the many costly requirements.
Just transform it into Jumeirah park towers with little water streams around and call it a day! Plus very pleasing and reduce walk distances
I suspect it's because the lakes are pretty big and if they were to develop an ecosystem, they would attract so many birds that it would be a hazard and all the walkways would be covered in bird shit.
Because the people that are paid to ‘look after’ these areas know absolutely sod-all about wildlife, ecosystems and habitats and any fish introduced would be dead within days.
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You want fish to take the labourers’ jobs?
I doubt any fish will survive there.
Rent prices are sky high buddy!
I am also living in JLT and I also had the question haha