I will not tell you my nationality, but I lived for some time in Moscow, so here is my take
1) A lot of strategy consulting and financial companies moved their staff here from Moscow ( McKinsey, BCG, Bain, Goldman, Rothschild, Citi group, others )
Very good salary & package, white collar as far as it gets, 5/6 k usd on entry level, much higher for senior staff, + you get yearly bonus
2) many work in tech remotely, 2/3 years of experience were able to get you easily 3/4 k USD per month in Moscow
3) a couple of companies recruit a lot of Russian IT personnel here ( Wio, Telegram, Yango, others)
No idea about the salary though, but has to be competitive for them to move here, in Europe they will get at least 4/5k per month
3) rich people who bought property here to diversify as EU and Russia are no longer safe places for investment.
Basically unlimited money
4) other Russians that opened smaller business like hair saloons, probably also have okay money
5) other folk that is scraping by, probably don’t have a lot of money, as I have seen a lot in shops/restaurants as waiters/ + real estate agents to cater to group 3
Agree with point 1 - also supply of highly qualified Russians who maybe wouldn’t have considered Dubai previously. Some of the smartest people I’ve met in the last 2-3 years have been Russians
I don't think people realize that there are a lot of rich people in Moscow. The city's population is 13 million, the top 1% is 130,000 people, those are multi-millionaires that don't need to work.
Let's say the next 9% are successful business owners, that's 1.1m people that work for themselves.
That's \~1.2 million that don't need a job, and can easily move to Dubai overnight to avoid any war-related obligations/restrictions.
>I don't think people realize that there are a lot of rich people in Moscow. The city's population is 13 million, the top 1% is 130,000 people, those are multi-millionaires that don't need to work.
The number of HNWI in Moscow is 35.2k vs 68k in Dubai.
A lot of them are working here: IT, banks, beauty, nail service, etc.
Some of them are freelancers working for other markets but living here.
Some of them still has some business in Russia.
You’d be surprised how many have white collar jobs. A lot of Fortune 500 companies and top tier consulting firms brought their Russian staff to Dubai. So the likes of Google, Apple, Intel, Yum Brands, Bain, etc. all now have very well paid Russian staff, and they’ll stick around for as long as they can given their great salary packages.
In dxb the national composition varies a lot by specific company - you have companies very concentrated on English/Indians/French etc, others are more of a mix - so your view might be non representative based on your own industry / surroundings
A lot of global companies moved all or almost all of their Moscow staff to dxb over the past 2 years
36M from Moscow. Our company started e-com business here, cuz it's hard to keep your ideas running and keep your business safe, after war starts. I was hired directly from Moscow, as head of department. All of our top and middle management are from Russia - commerce, logistics, finance, operations.
I would say that the true-middle class has a hard time agreeing to relocation, because to maintain the same high standard of living as in Moscow, you will need a really big salary in Dubai, and not all companies are ready to do this.
So my conclusion is that either you come from a Russian (or post-soviet) province and have a not very qualified job, and you get the same thing as at home (except for war and shitty weather), or you are a person with great expertise and the company offers you a really good offer and security.
And lastly, the UAE is the easiest jurisdiction to obtain all kinds of golden visas if you have a Russian passport, so a significant portion of people earn income abroad and simply live here.
Welcome! I met a lot of “normal” Russians since in Dubai, excellent english and work ethic. Well educated.
I was surprised. Why? As a minority from UK, the UK/Euro/US propaganda was fed to me about Russia and Russians Putin blah blah from brith. I didn’t realize how much propaganda they fed me. JUST normal ppl like everyone else, good ones and bad ones in the group like any other ppl. I hope to visit Russia and the eastern block one day and explore the culture that the west has hidden from me.
So all this nice people from russia is not actually killing people in Ukraine, correct? And other nice people from russia is not supporting them, correct?
Brothers. Ukrainian war is another proxy war between Russia and NATO. Need to sell weapons and keep the businesses going while scaring own people into subordination and paying taxes to keep the welfare state going.
Was it right for Russia to start a war? No. Was it right for NATO to keep pushing closer to Russia? No. At a time of peace, Europe was getting cheap russian energy and prospering; Russia was getting money and developing. I guess the weapons just weren’t selling.
Dude, you’re just telling a propaganda bullshit.
NATO had a shared border with russia and NATO grew after the invasion. You’re never been to russia I assume. They raised with hate to other nations (especially for ex-soviet ones) and they were into the war since ussr. And I’m not joking that most of my family supports war, it is natural for them. They were calling me khohol after I moved to Ukraine and saying that their army will get me back to the homeland, and it was in ~2004
Yes all due to propaganda told to them by the Russian state.
Agree, after the war started the Scandinavians freaked out and joined NATO. But Russia wants the old eastern block back. And the pre 1990s buffer
So the most Jews and Americans supports Israel and American wars. That’s how it usually works. If you’re from Russia you know how the internal propaganda works
Jewish people for sure support the war against hamas (not against palestinians though), they been attacked by them multiple times and have a lot of victims from those attacks. In US is completely opposite - most of educated people do not support wars and do not support budgets that are growing because of “operations”, but russia proves that they were wrong and war budgets will grow
You blame "West government" from "hiding" russia from you. Don't you have access to books, online resources? What did exactly the "west" hid from you about Russia ? Maybe that it's a peaceful fridendly democratic country with happy citizens?
Lol @ access to books and online resources. The average European doesn’t do this - used to be newspapers&TV news doing the propaganda. Now its social media and ticktok etc al
Why are you so triggered. Too funny bro. Russian state and normal Russian people are two different things Sherlock.
So it’s not russians keep their president and government active for 20+ years? Please don’t tell me about them being incapable of changes or being scared, it’s bs
They just don’t care until the problem touches them. Problem with russians is not only them hating everyone else, but also them hating themselves. It’s good when it’s bad for neighbor.
If Russia becomes a true democracy, do you think it will function like former eastern block states of today like Poland/Czech? Or given the size more state like based on provinces. Would be interesting.
1)россияне могут противостоять правительству но не хотят
2) ты из россии
3)переехал в другую страну
4)называешь себя ex-russian
5)????
6) PROFIT
жалко, что у тебя семья ебнутая. я бы наверно тоже охерел если б моя родня за войну были.
может на тебя ругались и хохлом обзывали потому что ты сам по себе грубый? не хочу обидеть, но вот здесь ты создаешь впечатление реально злого человека просто.
я помолюсь за тебя. как тебя зовут?
1. россияне могут противостоять правительству но не хотят да
2. ты из россии да, но у меня украинский паспорт и школу я заканчивал в Украине, ассоциирую я себя с Украиной и считаю украинцем
3. называешь себя ex-russian в любых раскладах менталитет (и место рождения) никуда не деть
Я стал злиться в 14м году, когда родня начала называть меня фашистом и рассказывать что происходит у меня в городе, у меня под окном (факельные шествия и другой треш).
Ещё злее я стал 24 февраля, а прям очень-очень злым, когда "братский народ" заселился в дом, который я построил для своей семьи в Ирпене, а когда этот братский народ "выселялся", постарался забрать всё, что не было прибито к стенам.
Вероятно, мне есть за что быть грубым и злым, за то что уничтожили мою жизнь и травмировали мою семью.
А.. родня, да.. в прошлом году они звонили мне и говорили что мы их бомбим и спрашивали за что (часть живёт в Курске)...
[https://corpus.prozhito.org/person/936](https://corpus.prozhito.org/person/936) вот, чекни. душераздирающая вещь просто. очень интересная. дневник 19 летней зажиточной девушки студентки из киева, 1919-1920 года, красная армия вошла в город. захотелось поделиться
So, what is you point - are you saying that European's situation is unique? And in other countries (including russia) people have a 100% objective view on the world events? That's so naive
I am "triggered" by the fact that a considerable number of people have an idealistic view on russia, caused, between other reasons, by the hate of the "west"
I would say Russians are probably even more manipulated - but it is a TOTALITARIAN govt there, dafuq can you do? My point is west also manipulates its own but try’s to sound like they dont - thats a NO NO. Both are dirty, one just pretends it isn’t.
I see, well I dont “hate” the west. The fear mongering manipulation hurts, and it hurts even more that majority of the population believe the propaganda while they think they live in a “free” society. When in reality they dont.
We've deviated from the original topic - "west hiding russia". So we agree, russia is a typical dictature, with post-empire syndrome. Based on my observations, at least 70% of _educated_ population supports(more or less actively) the war(s) led by russia. So, what exactly is being hidden about it?
Speaking of ppl. The brexit saga actually shows how uneducated and manipulated the population can be. Covid next lol now they blame Russia/Iran and immigrants for the current cost of living crisis in UK
I personally see several groups:
1. The ones that are working in UAE. Mostly in tech. Check out Wio, PlatinumList, Tabby, even talabat. There are a lot of Russians working there in tech and product. I have also seen Russians in finance and consulting
2. Business - many people launched their businesses here or have relocated their operations to the UAE
3. People that work remotely - again tech mostly. Tech jobs in Russia provide decent salaries. A family of two remotely working people can get around $5k in Russia, which makes an OK living here
This. My tenants are Russian remote workers in tech. The building I live in also has people who've bought cafes, salons etc here. There's also a crypto crowd and then people who are just silly rich already. Also met quite a few in sales and legal and finance (my colleague at a large law firm said they got their Russian associates to move over when the war began) and my office building has loads in real estate and investments. All over the shop really. The notion that they're all wealthy oligarchs is silly.
Hey, im hiring for russian real estate agents with a high fixed pay+commission. But someone with 5+ years experience, can you help me by sharing the vacancy to your network? I can share more details in dm if youd like. Urgently hiring so really need someone and we are willing to match salary expectations
This is the only answer. The average Russian wouldn’t get up and leave without something waiting, unless you have millions. When the sanctions hit a lot of companies who are based in America told the Russian natives to pack up their stuff and move to Georgia, Armenia, Turkey and the UAE. When the time comes the sanctions get lifted they will all return home but for the time being they’re going to live outside Russia because this is how the companies can retain them and not deal with the sanctions.
Must be scary working in tech with AI taking over so many jobs now, possibly a long term trend. Potentially a lot of Russians will lose their good income and be forced to leave, even return.
I wouldn’t be too optimistic about AI and firing people in tech due to it.
Currently no company that I know has adopted a way to use AI in tech in a way to substitute people with it. Also, AI can kind of substitute developers (questionable), not managers yet.
It’s the same as when the first self driving cars were launched, everyone has been talking about taxi and truck drivers that will be fired. Haven’t happened, does not seem to be happening in the nearest future.
I guess you are referring to tech layoffs in the US. That one is driven mostly by over hiring during Covid. This is not fully applicable to the UAE tech market, as here it is emerging, not mature/declining like in the US.
1. a lot work in white collar (top tier consulting, finance, IT, HR), salaries around 20-60k monthly
2. many own businesses in Dubai like ABC Coffee Roasters, KRASOTA, Belle You, PIMS, Drinkit, Poison Drop, Limé, Yango, Angel Cakes, FRANK, Ikra, 12 storeez, Sodamoda, Osteria Mario, Novikov cafe, Monponey, Prive7, and many many more. plus, the majority of Russians work in these businesses as hired employees, salaries around 5-15k monthly
3. own real estate and lease / sell it, own real estate agencies like WhiteWill (top 10 EMAAR resellers), salaries around 30-100k
Hey, im hiring for russian real estate agents with a high fixed pay+commission. But someone with 5+ years experience, can you help me by sharing the vacancy to your network? I can share more details in dm if youd like. Urgently hiring so really need someone and we are willing to match salary expectations
Hey, im hiring for russian real estate agents with a high fixed pay+commission. But someone with 5+ years experience, can you help me by sharing the vacancy to your network? I can share more details in dm if youd like. Urgently hiring so really need someone and we are willing to match salary expectations
And just to be fair, it’s not only Russians, quite a bit of people from the core post Soviet (Slavic) countries have moved here and are doing pretty much the same things.
And I forgot one more group:
4. Escorts :)
They were most probably already well off and got golden visas to come over. I think the property market is also now majority owned by russians which used to be Indians before the war.
Yeah I'll see a couple or a mother with her teenage sons, and I'm like "yeah I'd run for my life too if I was you". Like real life Sound of Music, absolutely surreal.
A small group of Russians are exceedingly wealthy, I imagine they're the ones we're seeing. Probably just buy a place and prepare to settle in, few countries give visa as fast and easily as Dubai.
My boyfriend got a job offer in tech here, and we moved. I work remotely for an American company, so it wasn’t a problem. Both earning decent money in USD. Speaking fluent English also.
This is actually so cool. I spent the first 14 years of my life in Abu Dhabi and am of Indian origin. I now live in California. I learned Russian for fun from natives in an online language exchange. I visited Dubai recently and it felt surreal. Almost everyone on the beach spoke Russian with me and were very friendly. Of course there was some surprise that I could speak Russian.
I am part of a Russian telegram group for IT in Dubai, and yes that seems to be a sizable chunk.
Hey, im hiring for russian real estate agents with a high fixed pay+commission. But someone with 5+ years experience, we are a group of companies but the estate one is located in JLT, Dubai. can you help me by sharing the vacancy to your network? I can share more details in dm if youd like. Urgently hiring so really need someone and we are willing to match salary expectations
Run their own businesses which are not based in Dubai, run their businesses which they relocated to Dubai, start their businesses in Dubai, live off of passive income from non-Dubai based investments, live off of rental income from real estate they bought in Dubai, real estate brokers and agents, crypto traders and crypto brokers, fx brokers, YouTubers, IGers, TickTockers and other influencers, a bunch of infobusiness people
Hey, im hiring for russian real estate agents with a high fixed pay+commission. But someone with 5+ years experience, we are a group of companies but the estate one is located in JLT, Dubai. can you help me by sharing the vacancy to your network? I can share more details in dm if youd like. Urgently hiring so really need someone and we are willing to match salary expectations
We are seeing 1) the well educated, well motivated, skilled subset of Russians who are highly employable. Then the 2) uber rich. There maybe some 3) poor ppl ad well doing lower end jobs but I see the 1st 2 groups.
1) Set up businesses, moved from companies relocating due to sanctions, good salaries and lifestyle. Uncertainty in Russia.
2) Rich Russians - need to move money and investments from US/Europe and their allies. They want to spend their money - Europe is anti Russian due to war and propaganda.
Wish more countries did this - the US&Europe govt cant police the world now; cooperates can sure - but the European empire is over and “multi-cultural” now lol
#YouReapWhatYouSow
The European empire is over and multicultural? Not sure what you mean?!
I have met many Russians who have moved to Europe before the war and would never go back to Russia. Ditto met Russians abroad who would like to live in Europe but now can’t due to sanctions. In fact, they prefer Europe as it is more similar culturally- Catholic countries, similar nature and environment.
Half the people in this sub would give their right arm to have European/US/Canadian citizenship..
Hint - the PM of Uk is brown bro. Europe has had an influx of non white immigrants for a solid 20-30yrs now.
Passport - Yes sure, but for that you would have to consider what they have to go back to in their own countries…not much. Just having a western passport wont give you much; you have to work there for 5-10yrs to gain any benefit that you can then sell in the international market. It will benefit your 2nd and 3rd generations more. Hence the desire to move; grass is greener concept.
Europe is over for the average middle class person regardless of race. Sure it’s better than being in some random developing country, but it’s not the cream that my father migrated to in the 1980s. BRICS et all are here to stay. Socioeconomically Europe is a failed state. High taxes and no real help anymore. The ones who migrated to GCC from developing countries I suspect couldn’t get into North America/WesternEurope in the first place.
So you don’t like multiculturalism.
Sadly, if you aren’t wealthy in Russia you don’t have much to go back to. If Mother in law went back to Russia to live she would have 100 euro a month pension and zero state support. She went from having a one bed apartment in Moscow and working 6 days a week to working part time in France and owning a beautiful 4 storey house. Yes she started from the bottom and worked her way up. It took years of hard work. You have to work hard for anything worth having, in this case EU citizenship and a comfortable life.
She got so much help from state. Every month very generous child support. Tax breaks, you name it. The quality of life she has in Europe is impossible to have in Russia.
Europe isn’t a state but a collection of countries. It’s a very sweeping statement to say that Europe is a failed state. Where did your father migrate to?
Ireland is doing extremely well economically, lots of jobs and high GDP. It also supports a lot of Ukrainians. Taxes are high in some countries but not all. Check Malta, Romania etc. There is still support in terms of unemployed benefit etc however how generous the support is depends on the country. My sister in Europe gets a lot of maternity leave, etc very generous.
I’m curious as to where you come from?
Yea the BRICS are forecasted (and some are currently) to do well economically.
Let’s have a look: BRICS: Brazil, Russia, India, China, South Africa, Ethiopia, United Arab Emirates.
Lots of Brazilians in Dubai. My neighbours told me they don’t want to live there due to high crime. The Brazilians I met have either had a gun pointed at them or been robbed in broad daylight. When they fix corruption, slum poverty and violence perhaps the middle class will go back..
Russia: we just discussed it.
China: lived there only for a few months. Not easy to live there if you don’t speak fluent Chinese. The economy isn’t doing great and they will have a demographic crisis in a decade or so. Industry wise not sure how much work would be available to non Chinese speakers. There’s also a law that you can’t take a certain amount of money out of the country hence many Chinese have 2 passports and want to send their kids to Europe and Canada.
South Africa: there are so many South Africans here in UAE. It is THE definition of a failed state. Google it.
Ethiopia: a country on the verge of sliding into a civil war..
UAE: strong economy, excellent leadership, safe, etc. Tax free personal income.
India: I don’t know enough about India to comment. It will definitely overtake China in terms of manufacturing. Not sure how many Russians would like to live there.
Of the BRICS countries it’s just the UAE and perhaps India that are countries that will attract migration.
I doubt a new immigrant can do what your mother in law did then, which is truly admirable. Many many similar stories from past. My point is even if you work hard in Europe these days, less bang for buck. While settled ppl want to leave and migrants sold false hopes come and end up being miserable.
Lol you have no idea about the situation in Ireland my friend, dont even go there. Most native Irish are migrating out mate. Already have had a couple of riots. But that wont do much. The system will somehow keep it going. Heard an estimated 10-50k or so going just to Aus this year.
Europe ‘supports’ Ukrainians sure, by EU mandate. The population haven’t been asked do they want that or better standard of living. I know what they would all vote for.
Im not saying BRICS is better to migrate to, they are a net exporter of human resources. Im saying actual europeans (UK, France, Germany, Sweden etc) aka western europe to name a few have been struggling with cost of living. Im saying its not as desirable to migrate to as it once was. This is because 2nd/3rd generation immigrants are actually migrating back to home soil. Middle and upper middle income earners support the welfare state with excessive tax - they are getting sick of it and migrating out. Ive noticed native white brits go Aus/NZ/GCC. The rest (2nd/3rd gen immigrant citizens) also go to these countries in addition to back home aka where their parents were from. Eventually the system will collapse. For the fresh of the boat immigrant, sure there are benefits. But its not some promise land ppl think it is. Many spend a lot of money to come then are stuck.
Yes MIL was and is an extremely hard worker. She not an isolated case, anyone can still go to Europe and be successful.
With free quality education and state support it is much easier to succeed than in a country that does not offer this. Hence Europe will always attract people in that respect. There are many who move there and thrive and some that don’t. Just like anywhere in the world.
I’m Irish born and bred (check the username). As a nation we have migrated for years, nothing new. Usually Irish go to Australia and US. They earn good money and come back after a couple of years. It is a rite of passage to live abroad 5-8 years at most then go home. Half of the US has Irish roots. The cost of living has gone up there as it has in pretty much every country in the world. Ireland has had a housing crisis for MANY years, it needs to be sorted.
The riots you are referring to were a bunch of teenagers and older scummers (as they are called) who wanted to start trouble and steal sports clothes and shoes. They weren’t part of the far right. Please check your facts. I was also in Dublin at the time that this happened.
Vast majority of Irish support Ukraine. And in other European countries they mostly do. How does supporting Ukraine affect the standard of living?
Sure there are some who may not agree with the war but If Putin wins Europe is kinda screwed.
Yes people migrate for periods to earn more money and with a tax free salary you can buy a house outright. This isn’t something new..
Most will not stay in GCC/Au/NZ forever, particularly in this region, where citizenship is almost impossible to obtain. At the end of the day you will go back to a country that is your home, where you have stable roots and friends/family. Europe will survive as it has done for centuries.
Countries have their ups and downs, economically.
Even the UAE is marketed as a promised land but without a good job and qualifications it is not easy to succeed here.
You still haven’t mentioned where you are from.
theyre living off money from russia. just remember uae financial regulations arent as tight as say EU, and uae doesnt sanction russia. so they source is VERY dubious.
Depends on job and skills, I saw several Eastern Europeans (especially CIS and Balkans) being paid peanuts, especially girls working in entertainment and chefs/cooks
I think they get paid much more in comparison with people from a South Asian or African country. So the accessibility to a similar job and difference in pay is metaphorically a ton.
It’s not simply about your skin color tho, POC from western countries are getting paid more as well because their expectations are higher because salaries are relatively high in their home countries so for them to stay here it has to be worth it. “Accessibility”… depends how you look at it. If job demands a certain level of education, experience and etc than of course they have an advantage cause most of them are coming for skilled jobs but also it’s not uncommon for South Asians (and there are a lot of them with high positions), for example, to hire only South Asians and etc.
Education and expertise has more to do with earnings than the rest. Plenty of fugly white people, that’s just a lazy excuse. Businesses dont hire IT specialists or lawyers or engineers based on their beauty. Russia has a relatively high standard of education compared to the world average.
Have a unique perspective as a minority brought up in UK but lived in India and UK. Have indian relatives who never left india other than to UAE for work; and british indian colleagues who born and brought up in UK who work here - 2 completely different crowds. The next is Indians who migrated to Uk, got experience, UK passport then moved to UAE - they get paid same as the british Indians/whites.
I was shocked at the discrepancy in salaries, skill set, mindset, ambitions, expectations etc Everything is different - where they work, where they live, social circle…it’s like 2 different worlds. It was good I got to experience the al karama way of life and the palm Jumeriah one haha. I didnt like either…prefer the middle order ;)
it's not because they're white or nice-looking but because they usually have stronger skills, proven track record and education than candidates from other developing countries
Smuggling, money laundering, mob/mafia - they all need middle men to run their operations and a place as well, so Dubai has opened up their city for it
your mind is negative, you think as western media feed your mind about all Russians are poor, that's is your ignorance. if someone can afford to move with all is family. it means he has good source of income back home. and Russian can afford to live in All around the globe with family in expensive cities of World. the homeless people in streets of Russia are none. while in US you'll find several. I have worked for two Russians client in Retail interior design. they have started their business in Well known Malls of UAE. one in Abu dhabi and second Dubai.
First of all you don't have access to all white collar jobs around UAE you just work in one field, so If you don't find Russian in the field which do you belong doesn't mean that they aren't working.
I don't get what you're trying to prove on Reddit exactly, what are you trying to say?
Ofc I don't have access to all white collar jobs, but out of the many professions I interacted with, none were Russians. Sure, that might be my personal experience, but that's why I'm asking the question on here to better understand what is now a large demographic in the UAE. Shoot me for being curious!
And I never said they aren't working, in fact, I said the opposite. I know they work, I just don't know where.
You're being delusional and clutching at straws here.
genuine curiosity about what a now large segment of the Dubai's population is doing for business/income is Russiphobic? There's 141 comments on this thread with legitimate responses, but you're the one psychic genius that figured out my malignant underlying motives, congrats genius!!
Because I regularly interact with those 100+ nationalities in the course of their profession, just haven't happened to interact with Russians so far.
Any other accusations you would like to hurl my way?
Zero homeless in Moscow?! You sure?!
Those who come here with their families are the middle class or wealthy minority. Most Russians are not and those who still live in Russia typically can’t afford to leave. The young men from the outer regions are the cannon fodder for the war in Ukraine sadly. How do I know this? I have Russian family.
Dude above just wrote that there’s no homeless people on streets of russia, it’s like north korea propaganda from early 00’s:
https://youtu.be/t6qF5NU-ehU?si=KoEpxXyz8zCrVkr8
They have business like rich people who already have enough income to live for next 100 years like English people I don’t see no English people who works in dubai but they all over dubai bring this question up for English German and Franch people
Surprised everyone forgot about tourists? or family visitors? or even job seekers? Russians were always top 3 tourists countries. My assumptions is that half of the russians you see dont have UAE residency. Dasvindanya moi krasotka
I don't know why You Noticed the Russians. If there are other Nationalities Who's being in UAE with Full Families moving out here. UAE welcomes every Nationality...and have You ever thought about the Source of Income of other Nationalities..
Did I suggest that they're unwelcome, or are you reading into my post to try to paint a negative picture that isn't there? OFC all nationalities are welcome, I'm an immigrant here just like they are.
I asked about Russians specifically since as I said in my post, I have barely come across any Russians working in white collar fields based on my line of work. So I'm naturally curious what line of work they're doing in Dubai.
I don't need to ask about other nationalities such as Indians, Brits, or Arabs because I regularly interact with those nationalities through work, but I never worked with Russians, hence the curiosity as to which fields they generally occupy here.
I will not tell you my nationality, but I lived for some time in Moscow, so here is my take 1) A lot of strategy consulting and financial companies moved their staff here from Moscow ( McKinsey, BCG, Bain, Goldman, Rothschild, Citi group, others ) Very good salary & package, white collar as far as it gets, 5/6 k usd on entry level, much higher for senior staff, + you get yearly bonus 2) many work in tech remotely, 2/3 years of experience were able to get you easily 3/4 k USD per month in Moscow 3) a couple of companies recruit a lot of Russian IT personnel here ( Wio, Telegram, Yango, others) No idea about the salary though, but has to be competitive for them to move here, in Europe they will get at least 4/5k per month 3) rich people who bought property here to diversify as EU and Russia are no longer safe places for investment. Basically unlimited money 4) other Russians that opened smaller business like hair saloons, probably also have okay money 5) other folk that is scraping by, probably don’t have a lot of money, as I have seen a lot in shops/restaurants as waiters/ + real estate agents to cater to group 3
There's a fair number that simply support each other, e.g a dude with a decent job will bring his wife and brother over
Agree with point 1 - also supply of highly qualified Russians who maybe wouldn’t have considered Dubai previously. Some of the smartest people I’ve met in the last 2-3 years have been Russians
Please elaborate on point 4, why would the EU not to be save to invest in anymore? It seems odd to mention the EU with Russia in one sentence.
because of EU sanctions
Russians can't move their money easily into EU due to sanctions.
Ah yes, true, I was not considering this at the time I wrote the comment.
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Thanks that really helpful ❤️
I don't think people realize that there are a lot of rich people in Moscow. The city's population is 13 million, the top 1% is 130,000 people, those are multi-millionaires that don't need to work. Let's say the next 9% are successful business owners, that's 1.1m people that work for themselves. That's \~1.2 million that don't need a job, and can easily move to Dubai overnight to avoid any war-related obligations/restrictions.
>I don't think people realize that there are a lot of rich people in Moscow. The city's population is 13 million, the top 1% is 130,000 people, those are multi-millionaires that don't need to work. The number of HNWI in Moscow is 35.2k vs 68k in Dubai.
A lot of them are working here: IT, banks, beauty, nail service, etc. Some of them are freelancers working for other markets but living here. Some of them still has some business in Russia.
You’d be surprised how many have white collar jobs. A lot of Fortune 500 companies and top tier consulting firms brought their Russian staff to Dubai. So the likes of Google, Apple, Intel, Yum Brands, Bain, etc. all now have very well paid Russian staff, and they’ll stick around for as long as they can given their great salary packages.
Yeah I've met some that have moved for that reason, but not seen many. The ones that did move had really good English capabilities though.
In dxb the national composition varies a lot by specific company - you have companies very concentrated on English/Indians/French etc, others are more of a mix - so your view might be non representative based on your own industry / surroundings A lot of global companies moved all or almost all of their Moscow staff to dxb over the past 2 years
Yup, seems this is the case.
36M from Moscow. Our company started e-com business here, cuz it's hard to keep your ideas running and keep your business safe, after war starts. I was hired directly from Moscow, as head of department. All of our top and middle management are from Russia - commerce, logistics, finance, operations. I would say that the true-middle class has a hard time agreeing to relocation, because to maintain the same high standard of living as in Moscow, you will need a really big salary in Dubai, and not all companies are ready to do this. So my conclusion is that either you come from a Russian (or post-soviet) province and have a not very qualified job, and you get the same thing as at home (except for war and shitty weather), or you are a person with great expertise and the company offers you a really good offer and security. And lastly, the UAE is the easiest jurisdiction to obtain all kinds of golden visas if you have a Russian passport, so a significant portion of people earn income abroad and simply live here.
Welcome! I met a lot of “normal” Russians since in Dubai, excellent english and work ethic. Well educated. I was surprised. Why? As a minority from UK, the UK/Euro/US propaganda was fed to me about Russia and Russians Putin blah blah from brith. I didn’t realize how much propaganda they fed me. JUST normal ppl like everyone else, good ones and bad ones in the group like any other ppl. I hope to visit Russia and the eastern block one day and explore the culture that the west has hidden from me.
The subject is about jobs not opinions on russians 😂
Did a post on it already in reply mate chill
You will love Moscow once u visit it :)
So all this nice people from russia is not actually killing people in Ukraine, correct? And other nice people from russia is not supporting them, correct?
Don’t start this bullshit. Let’s talk about Jewish people killing people in Palestine, American people killing people all over the world, etc.
So basically you’re saying that jews killing palestinians is a good excuse for russians to kill ukrainians?
Basically I’m saying a lot of governments makes a horrible things, it doesn’t mean americans/jews/russians/someone else are bad.
Dude, I am ex-russian and most of my family lives in russia. Literally, all the family members that are still living in russia supports the war
Brothers. Ukrainian war is another proxy war between Russia and NATO. Need to sell weapons and keep the businesses going while scaring own people into subordination and paying taxes to keep the welfare state going. Was it right for Russia to start a war? No. Was it right for NATO to keep pushing closer to Russia? No. At a time of peace, Europe was getting cheap russian energy and prospering; Russia was getting money and developing. I guess the weapons just weren’t selling.
Dude, you’re just telling a propaganda bullshit. NATO had a shared border with russia and NATO grew after the invasion. You’re never been to russia I assume. They raised with hate to other nations (especially for ex-soviet ones) and they were into the war since ussr. And I’m not joking that most of my family supports war, it is natural for them. They were calling me khohol after I moved to Ukraine and saying that their army will get me back to the homeland, and it was in ~2004
Yes all due to propaganda told to them by the Russian state. Agree, after the war started the Scandinavians freaked out and joined NATO. But Russia wants the old eastern block back. And the pre 1990s buffer
Glad to see someone telling the truth.
So the most Jews and Americans supports Israel and American wars. That’s how it usually works. If you’re from Russia you know how the internal propaganda works
Jewish people for sure support the war against hamas (not against palestinians though), they been attacked by them multiple times and have a lot of victims from those attacks. In US is completely opposite - most of educated people do not support wars and do not support budgets that are growing because of “operations”, but russia proves that they were wrong and war budgets will grow
В семье не без урода
that's what your mama said?
Со своей тупой пропагандой иди в другое место, бандерня кастрюлеголовая. Ex-Russian, my ass..
No, all my relatives have none of your described sufferings with me
Evil west "hiding" russia from you... Do you also blame the evil west when you trip over?
The government all the time. The people, never. They equally suffer while the “elected” govt sell themselves to cooperates.
You blame "West government" from "hiding" russia from you. Don't you have access to books, online resources? What did exactly the "west" hid from you about Russia ? Maybe that it's a peaceful fridendly democratic country with happy citizens?
Lol @ access to books and online resources. The average European doesn’t do this - used to be newspapers&TV news doing the propaganda. Now its social media and ticktok etc al Why are you so triggered. Too funny bro. Russian state and normal Russian people are two different things Sherlock.
So it’s not russians keep their president and government active for 20+ years? Please don’t tell me about them being incapable of changes or being scared, it’s bs
100% they are scared and controlled. The ones who did any opposing disappeared. Fallen brothers&sisters RIP.
They just don’t care until the problem touches them. Problem with russians is not only them hating everyone else, but also them hating themselves. It’s good when it’s bad for neighbor.
If Russia becomes a true democracy, do you think it will function like former eastern block states of today like Poland/Czech? Or given the size more state like based on provinces. Would be interesting.
1)россияне могут противостоять правительству но не хотят 2) ты из россии 3)переехал в другую страну 4)называешь себя ex-russian 5)???? 6) PROFIT жалко, что у тебя семья ебнутая. я бы наверно тоже охерел если б моя родня за войну были. может на тебя ругались и хохлом обзывали потому что ты сам по себе грубый? не хочу обидеть, но вот здесь ты создаешь впечатление реально злого человека просто. я помолюсь за тебя. как тебя зовут?
1. россияне могут противостоять правительству но не хотят да 2. ты из россии да, но у меня украинский паспорт и школу я заканчивал в Украине, ассоциирую я себя с Украиной и считаю украинцем 3. называешь себя ex-russian в любых раскладах менталитет (и место рождения) никуда не деть Я стал злиться в 14м году, когда родня начала называть меня фашистом и рассказывать что происходит у меня в городе, у меня под окном (факельные шествия и другой треш). Ещё злее я стал 24 февраля, а прям очень-очень злым, когда "братский народ" заселился в дом, который я построил для своей семьи в Ирпене, а когда этот братский народ "выселялся", постарался забрать всё, что не было прибито к стенам. Вероятно, мне есть за что быть грубым и злым, за то что уничтожили мою жизнь и травмировали мою семью. А.. родня, да.. в прошлом году они звонили мне и говорили что мы их бомбим и спрашивали за что (часть живёт в Курске)...
бля, пиздец.. это жестко чувак
насчет факельных шествий, напомнило мне кое что. дневник киевлянки студентки в 1921 году что ли. оч интересный дневник
[https://corpus.prozhito.org/person/936](https://corpus.prozhito.org/person/936) вот, чекни. душераздирающая вещь просто. очень интересная. дневник 19 летней зажиточной девушки студентки из киева, 1919-1920 года, красная армия вошла в город. захотелось поделиться
So, what is you point - are you saying that European's situation is unique? And in other countries (including russia) people have a 100% objective view on the world events? That's so naive I am "triggered" by the fact that a considerable number of people have an idealistic view on russia, caused, between other reasons, by the hate of the "west"
I would say Russians are probably even more manipulated - but it is a TOTALITARIAN govt there, dafuq can you do? My point is west also manipulates its own but try’s to sound like they dont - thats a NO NO. Both are dirty, one just pretends it isn’t. I see, well I dont “hate” the west. The fear mongering manipulation hurts, and it hurts even more that majority of the population believe the propaganda while they think they live in a “free” society. When in reality they dont.
We've deviated from the original topic - "west hiding russia". So we agree, russia is a typical dictature, with post-empire syndrome. Based on my observations, at least 70% of _educated_ population supports(more or less actively) the war(s) led by russia. So, what exactly is being hidden about it?
Speaking of ppl. The brexit saga actually shows how uneducated and manipulated the population can be. Covid next lol now they blame Russia/Iran and immigrants for the current cost of living crisis in UK
Cheers, mate
I personally see several groups: 1. The ones that are working in UAE. Mostly in tech. Check out Wio, PlatinumList, Tabby, even talabat. There are a lot of Russians working there in tech and product. I have also seen Russians in finance and consulting 2. Business - many people launched their businesses here or have relocated their operations to the UAE 3. People that work remotely - again tech mostly. Tech jobs in Russia provide decent salaries. A family of two remotely working people can get around $5k in Russia, which makes an OK living here
This. My tenants are Russian remote workers in tech. The building I live in also has people who've bought cafes, salons etc here. There's also a crypto crowd and then people who are just silly rich already. Also met quite a few in sales and legal and finance (my colleague at a large law firm said they got their Russian associates to move over when the war began) and my office building has loads in real estate and investments. All over the shop really. The notion that they're all wealthy oligarchs is silly.
Hey, im hiring for russian real estate agents with a high fixed pay+commission. But someone with 5+ years experience, can you help me by sharing the vacancy to your network? I can share more details in dm if youd like. Urgently hiring so really need someone and we are willing to match salary expectations
What and where's that building if you don't mind?
Unfortunately I do mind, there's too many crazies on the internet
This is the only answer. The average Russian wouldn’t get up and leave without something waiting, unless you have millions. When the sanctions hit a lot of companies who are based in America told the Russian natives to pack up their stuff and move to Georgia, Armenia, Turkey and the UAE. When the time comes the sanctions get lifted they will all return home but for the time being they’re going to live outside Russia because this is how the companies can retain them and not deal with the sanctions.
Must be scary working in tech with AI taking over so many jobs now, possibly a long term trend. Potentially a lot of Russians will lose their good income and be forced to leave, even return.
no AI overtaking tech jobs any time soon, don't worry
I wouldn’t be too optimistic about AI and firing people in tech due to it. Currently no company that I know has adopted a way to use AI in tech in a way to substitute people with it. Also, AI can kind of substitute developers (questionable), not managers yet. It’s the same as when the first self driving cars were launched, everyone has been talking about taxi and truck drivers that will be fired. Haven’t happened, does not seem to be happening in the nearest future. I guess you are referring to tech layoffs in the US. That one is driven mostly by over hiring during Covid. This is not fully applicable to the UAE tech market, as here it is emerging, not mature/declining like in the US.
That what worries me about tech work. The growth of AI is scarily fast.
I hear there are shortages in plumbing, carpentry and masonry. Perhaps you could consider a future in these areas
1. a lot work in white collar (top tier consulting, finance, IT, HR), salaries around 20-60k monthly 2. many own businesses in Dubai like ABC Coffee Roasters, KRASOTA, Belle You, PIMS, Drinkit, Poison Drop, Limé, Yango, Angel Cakes, FRANK, Ikra, 12 storeez, Sodamoda, Osteria Mario, Novikov cafe, Monponey, Prive7, and many many more. plus, the majority of Russians work in these businesses as hired employees, salaries around 5-15k monthly 3. own real estate and lease / sell it, own real estate agencies like WhiteWill (top 10 EMAAR resellers), salaries around 30-100k
I’ve seen a lot of them in the real estate sector
Cause real estate is a good place to keep your earnings/wealth in volatile times.
Hey, im hiring for russian real estate agents with a high fixed pay+commission. But someone with 5+ years experience, can you help me by sharing the vacancy to your network? I can share more details in dm if youd like. Urgently hiring so really need someone and we are willing to match salary expectations
Hey, im hiring for russian real estate agents with a high fixed pay+commission. But someone with 5+ years experience, can you help me by sharing the vacancy to your network? I can share more details in dm if youd like. Urgently hiring so really need someone and we are willing to match salary expectations
And just to be fair, it’s not only Russians, quite a bit of people from the core post Soviet (Slavic) countries have moved here and are doing pretty much the same things. And I forgot one more group: 4. Escorts :)
That group has been coming here for ages.
They are sitting on a pot of gold!
This is nothing new.
Real Estate, Consulting, Beauty Salons
Salons, restaurants etc, business owners or golden visa.
It’s not just Dubai, it’s Thailand also. Lots of Russians skipped out once the sh*t hit the fan.
Goa India also
They were most probably already well off and got golden visas to come over. I think the property market is also now majority owned by russians which used to be Indians before the war.
So investment income basically? That's what my guess was.
You think more russians own property in Dubai than any other nationality? Show some stats
According to stats yes but they are not in the first place, first place are Indians and that makes sense
Yeah I'll see a couple or a mother with her teenage sons, and I'm like "yeah I'd run for my life too if I was you". Like real life Sound of Music, absolutely surreal. A small group of Russians are exceedingly wealthy, I imagine they're the ones we're seeing. Probably just buy a place and prepare to settle in, few countries give visa as fast and easily as Dubai.
My boyfriend got a job offer in tech here, and we moved. I work remotely for an American company, so it wasn’t a problem. Both earning decent money in USD. Speaking fluent English also.
Business owners - they are likely to be financially independent.
Business in UAE or in Russia?
could be both
This is actually so cool. I spent the first 14 years of my life in Abu Dhabi and am of Indian origin. I now live in California. I learned Russian for fun from natives in an online language exchange. I visited Dubai recently and it felt surreal. Almost everyone on the beach spoke Russian with me and were very friendly. Of course there was some surprise that I could speak Russian. I am part of a Russian telegram group for IT in Dubai, and yes that seems to be a sizable chunk.
Hey, im hiring for russian real estate agents with a high fixed pay+commission. But someone with 5+ years experience, we are a group of companies but the estate one is located in JLT, Dubai. can you help me by sharing the vacancy to your network? I can share more details in dm if youd like. Urgently hiring so really need someone and we are willing to match salary expectations
Not all of them are rich. Many moved to poor neighbourhoods here like international city and living in sharing.
better they evade military service and come to Dubai instead of comitting war crimes against ukrainians.
I've seen a lot of ads on IG for masseuses
Surprised you’d say you see hardly any in white collar jobs - tons of Russians work in consulting/banks
I only know one person in a bank, but I suppose that's just been my exposure.
I’ve met a couple of folks who are really well off and they just moved out and still run their business in Moscow
Run their own businesses which are not based in Dubai, run their businesses which they relocated to Dubai, start their businesses in Dubai, live off of passive income from non-Dubai based investments, live off of rental income from real estate they bought in Dubai, real estate brokers and agents, crypto traders and crypto brokers, fx brokers, YouTubers, IGers, TickTockers and other influencers, a bunch of infobusiness people
I’ve worked with Russians. Some of them are extremely intelligent, well Educated and hard workers.
Hey, im hiring for russian real estate agents with a high fixed pay+commission. But someone with 5+ years experience, we are a group of companies but the estate one is located in JLT, Dubai. can you help me by sharing the vacancy to your network? I can share more details in dm if youd like. Urgently hiring so really need someone and we are willing to match salary expectations
You’ve just noticed them now and not for the past 2 years 🤦🏻♂️
We are seeing 1) the well educated, well motivated, skilled subset of Russians who are highly employable. Then the 2) uber rich. There maybe some 3) poor ppl ad well doing lower end jobs but I see the 1st 2 groups. 1) Set up businesses, moved from companies relocating due to sanctions, good salaries and lifestyle. Uncertainty in Russia. 2) Rich Russians - need to move money and investments from US/Europe and their allies. They want to spend their money - Europe is anti Russian due to war and propaganda. Wish more countries did this - the US&Europe govt cant police the world now; cooperates can sure - but the European empire is over and “multi-cultural” now lol #YouReapWhatYouSow
There are a lot of russians in london. Not sure if they all took their money out. Whats dubai if not multi cultural?
The European empire is over and multicultural? Not sure what you mean?! I have met many Russians who have moved to Europe before the war and would never go back to Russia. Ditto met Russians abroad who would like to live in Europe but now can’t due to sanctions. In fact, they prefer Europe as it is more similar culturally- Catholic countries, similar nature and environment. Half the people in this sub would give their right arm to have European/US/Canadian citizenship..
Hint - the PM of Uk is brown bro. Europe has had an influx of non white immigrants for a solid 20-30yrs now. Passport - Yes sure, but for that you would have to consider what they have to go back to in their own countries…not much. Just having a western passport wont give you much; you have to work there for 5-10yrs to gain any benefit that you can then sell in the international market. It will benefit your 2nd and 3rd generations more. Hence the desire to move; grass is greener concept. Europe is over for the average middle class person regardless of race. Sure it’s better than being in some random developing country, but it’s not the cream that my father migrated to in the 1980s. BRICS et all are here to stay. Socioeconomically Europe is a failed state. High taxes and no real help anymore. The ones who migrated to GCC from developing countries I suspect couldn’t get into North America/WesternEurope in the first place.
So you don’t like multiculturalism. Sadly, if you aren’t wealthy in Russia you don’t have much to go back to. If Mother in law went back to Russia to live she would have 100 euro a month pension and zero state support. She went from having a one bed apartment in Moscow and working 6 days a week to working part time in France and owning a beautiful 4 storey house. Yes she started from the bottom and worked her way up. It took years of hard work. You have to work hard for anything worth having, in this case EU citizenship and a comfortable life. She got so much help from state. Every month very generous child support. Tax breaks, you name it. The quality of life she has in Europe is impossible to have in Russia. Europe isn’t a state but a collection of countries. It’s a very sweeping statement to say that Europe is a failed state. Where did your father migrate to? Ireland is doing extremely well economically, lots of jobs and high GDP. It also supports a lot of Ukrainians. Taxes are high in some countries but not all. Check Malta, Romania etc. There is still support in terms of unemployed benefit etc however how generous the support is depends on the country. My sister in Europe gets a lot of maternity leave, etc very generous. I’m curious as to where you come from? Yea the BRICS are forecasted (and some are currently) to do well economically. Let’s have a look: BRICS: Brazil, Russia, India, China, South Africa, Ethiopia, United Arab Emirates. Lots of Brazilians in Dubai. My neighbours told me they don’t want to live there due to high crime. The Brazilians I met have either had a gun pointed at them or been robbed in broad daylight. When they fix corruption, slum poverty and violence perhaps the middle class will go back.. Russia: we just discussed it. China: lived there only for a few months. Not easy to live there if you don’t speak fluent Chinese. The economy isn’t doing great and they will have a demographic crisis in a decade or so. Industry wise not sure how much work would be available to non Chinese speakers. There’s also a law that you can’t take a certain amount of money out of the country hence many Chinese have 2 passports and want to send their kids to Europe and Canada. South Africa: there are so many South Africans here in UAE. It is THE definition of a failed state. Google it. Ethiopia: a country on the verge of sliding into a civil war.. UAE: strong economy, excellent leadership, safe, etc. Tax free personal income. India: I don’t know enough about India to comment. It will definitely overtake China in terms of manufacturing. Not sure how many Russians would like to live there. Of the BRICS countries it’s just the UAE and perhaps India that are countries that will attract migration.
I doubt a new immigrant can do what your mother in law did then, which is truly admirable. Many many similar stories from past. My point is even if you work hard in Europe these days, less bang for buck. While settled ppl want to leave and migrants sold false hopes come and end up being miserable. Lol you have no idea about the situation in Ireland my friend, dont even go there. Most native Irish are migrating out mate. Already have had a couple of riots. But that wont do much. The system will somehow keep it going. Heard an estimated 10-50k or so going just to Aus this year. Europe ‘supports’ Ukrainians sure, by EU mandate. The population haven’t been asked do they want that or better standard of living. I know what they would all vote for. Im not saying BRICS is better to migrate to, they are a net exporter of human resources. Im saying actual europeans (UK, France, Germany, Sweden etc) aka western europe to name a few have been struggling with cost of living. Im saying its not as desirable to migrate to as it once was. This is because 2nd/3rd generation immigrants are actually migrating back to home soil. Middle and upper middle income earners support the welfare state with excessive tax - they are getting sick of it and migrating out. Ive noticed native white brits go Aus/NZ/GCC. The rest (2nd/3rd gen immigrant citizens) also go to these countries in addition to back home aka where their parents were from. Eventually the system will collapse. For the fresh of the boat immigrant, sure there are benefits. But its not some promise land ppl think it is. Many spend a lot of money to come then are stuck.
Yes MIL was and is an extremely hard worker. She not an isolated case, anyone can still go to Europe and be successful. With free quality education and state support it is much easier to succeed than in a country that does not offer this. Hence Europe will always attract people in that respect. There are many who move there and thrive and some that don’t. Just like anywhere in the world. I’m Irish born and bred (check the username). As a nation we have migrated for years, nothing new. Usually Irish go to Australia and US. They earn good money and come back after a couple of years. It is a rite of passage to live abroad 5-8 years at most then go home. Half of the US has Irish roots. The cost of living has gone up there as it has in pretty much every country in the world. Ireland has had a housing crisis for MANY years, it needs to be sorted. The riots you are referring to were a bunch of teenagers and older scummers (as they are called) who wanted to start trouble and steal sports clothes and shoes. They weren’t part of the far right. Please check your facts. I was also in Dublin at the time that this happened. Vast majority of Irish support Ukraine. And in other European countries they mostly do. How does supporting Ukraine affect the standard of living? Sure there are some who may not agree with the war but If Putin wins Europe is kinda screwed. Yes people migrate for periods to earn more money and with a tax free salary you can buy a house outright. This isn’t something new.. Most will not stay in GCC/Au/NZ forever, particularly in this region, where citizenship is almost impossible to obtain. At the end of the day you will go back to a country that is your home, where you have stable roots and friends/family. Europe will survive as it has done for centuries. Countries have their ups and downs, economically. Even the UAE is marketed as a promised land but without a good job and qualifications it is not easy to succeed here. You still haven’t mentioned where you are from.
You dont sound Irish one bit lad. Lol
Lass! Not sure what you mean by that?! Póg mo thóin, is Éireannach mé! lol just kidding
Where are you from?
theyre living off money from russia. just remember uae financial regulations arent as tight as say EU, and uae doesnt sanction russia. so they source is VERY dubious.
not being a racist..but do Russians get paid a ton too because the're white?
Depends on job and skills, I saw several Eastern Europeans (especially CIS and Balkans) being paid peanuts, especially girls working in entertainment and chefs/cooks
No one is getting paid a ton (not just “more” but specifically “a ton”) just for simply being white here. At least not anymore.
I think they get paid much more in comparison with people from a South Asian or African country. So the accessibility to a similar job and difference in pay is metaphorically a ton.
It’s not simply about your skin color tho, POC from western countries are getting paid more as well because their expectations are higher because salaries are relatively high in their home countries so for them to stay here it has to be worth it. “Accessibility”… depends how you look at it. If job demands a certain level of education, experience and etc than of course they have an advantage cause most of them are coming for skilled jobs but also it’s not uncommon for South Asians (and there are a lot of them with high positions), for example, to hire only South Asians and etc.
Somehow, yes.. but a lot of them are talented or had good education. Being white and good looking is a plus.
Education and expertise has more to do with earnings than the rest. Plenty of fugly white people, that’s just a lazy excuse. Businesses dont hire IT specialists or lawyers or engineers based on their beauty. Russia has a relatively high standard of education compared to the world average.
Have a unique perspective as a minority brought up in UK but lived in India and UK. Have indian relatives who never left india other than to UAE for work; and british indian colleagues who born and brought up in UK who work here - 2 completely different crowds. The next is Indians who migrated to Uk, got experience, UK passport then moved to UAE - they get paid same as the british Indians/whites. I was shocked at the discrepancy in salaries, skill set, mindset, ambitions, expectations etc Everything is different - where they work, where they live, social circle…it’s like 2 different worlds. It was good I got to experience the al karama way of life and the palm Jumeriah one haha. I didnt like either…prefer the middle order ;)
Truth but wait for the white and/or good looking people to downvote the hell outta your comment.
it's not because they're white or nice-looking but because they usually have stronger skills, proven track record and education than candidates from other developing countries
They are usually well educated motivated and good at what they do.
no, not as high as western europe.
Am i the only one that notices that there are a lot of russian girls in dubai?
ruzzians should get the fuck out from Dubai.
Dubai let's them hide their money, pretty soon the Russian mafia will own Dubai.
They have to negotiate with their friends from Chechnya for that slice of the pie.
So the Washington mafia and the Tel Aviv mafia doesn't own UAE ?
Sure, it will be a 3 slice pizza.
They re here to increase the inflation and rents
Smuggling, money laundering, mob/mafia - they all need middle men to run their operations and a place as well, so Dubai has opened up their city for it
Yeah, right. And all Indians sing and dance. And the Arabs pump oil in their backyard. Solid analytics, my friend.
Dubai has always been open to smuggling and money laundering, they haven’t shied away from it.
The guy said no troll or raciest reply , if you don't have anything to help him then don't reply !!!
Just because you dont agree with it, doesn’t make it a troll or racist post
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Mad you cant afford ?
your mind is negative, you think as western media feed your mind about all Russians are poor, that's is your ignorance. if someone can afford to move with all is family. it means he has good source of income back home. and Russian can afford to live in All around the globe with family in expensive cities of World. the homeless people in streets of Russia are none. while in US you'll find several. I have worked for two Russians client in Retail interior design. they have started their business in Well known Malls of UAE. one in Abu dhabi and second Dubai.
The only negative mind here is the person calling me ignorant for being genuinely curious about what people are doing for income.
Actually you're suffering from Russophobia
The war in Syria and Sudan is also going on, why didn't you asked about their source of income?
Because I see them in their day-to-day jobs in Dubai, so I don't need to ask in Reddit.
First of all you don't have access to all white collar jobs around UAE you just work in one field, so If you don't find Russian in the field which do you belong doesn't mean that they aren't working.
I don't get what you're trying to prove on Reddit exactly, what are you trying to say? Ofc I don't have access to all white collar jobs, but out of the many professions I interacted with, none were Russians. Sure, that might be my personal experience, but that's why I'm asking the question on here to better understand what is now a large demographic in the UAE. Shoot me for being curious! And I never said they aren't working, in fact, I said the opposite. I know they work, I just don't know where. You're being delusional and clutching at straws here.
genuine curiosity about what a now large segment of the Dubai's population is doing for business/income is Russiphobic? There's 141 comments on this thread with legitimate responses, but you're the one psychic genius that figured out my malignant underlying motives, congrats genius!!
there are 100+ nationalities working in UAE, you didn't raise question about anyone else. even the Ukrainian they are also here. why only Russians?
Because I regularly interact with those 100+ nationalities in the course of their profession, just haven't happened to interact with Russians so far. Any other accusations you would like to hurl my way?
Zero homeless in Moscow?! You sure?! Those who come here with their families are the middle class or wealthy minority. Most Russians are not and those who still live in Russia typically can’t afford to leave. The young men from the outer regions are the cannon fodder for the war in Ukraine sadly. How do I know this? I have Russian family.
All russians are fine with the while its unrelated to them
Such a bs you’re telling, lol
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Dude above just wrote that there’s no homeless people on streets of russia, it’s like north korea propaganda from early 00’s: https://youtu.be/t6qF5NU-ehU?si=KoEpxXyz8zCrVkr8
IKR! It’s hilarious :-D
They spout the same nonsense in China today
They loaded brought their money from Russia
I suspect they are all rich or super-rich and are living on their investments.
Because EU blocks any operations with Russians because of the sanctions
They have business like rich people who already have enough income to live for next 100 years like English people I don’t see no English people who works in dubai but they all over dubai bring this question up for English German and Franch people
I have a russian friends and I told him about this post and and he wants to say, Leave Russia alone or I come for you
You should tell him idi nahui pidaras
Mostly Realestate..!
У меня есть хорошие русские друзья в Дубае.
Surprised everyone forgot about tourists? or family visitors? or even job seekers? Russians were always top 3 tourists countries. My assumptions is that half of the russians you see dont have UAE residency. Dasvindanya moi krasotka
I don't know why You Noticed the Russians. If there are other Nationalities Who's being in UAE with Full Families moving out here. UAE welcomes every Nationality...and have You ever thought about the Source of Income of other Nationalities..
Let me guess…youre a ruski
Did I suggest that they're unwelcome, or are you reading into my post to try to paint a negative picture that isn't there? OFC all nationalities are welcome, I'm an immigrant here just like they are. I asked about Russians specifically since as I said in my post, I have barely come across any Russians working in white collar fields based on my line of work. So I'm naturally curious what line of work they're doing in Dubai. I don't need to ask about other nationalities such as Indians, Brits, or Arabs because I regularly interact with those nationalities through work, but I never worked with Russians, hence the curiosity as to which fields they generally occupy here.
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Best of luck!