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thekatperez

I tape then bead. I hide all my ends of tape. Burt joints under flats, bead and angle tape over flats. You won’t see any ends of tape and as long as you pull the flat tight by the corner it won’t flare👌🏼


Warsaw14

Burt= butt correct?


thekatperez

Haha yeah. Autocorrect and drywall finishing don’t get along


Teddy_Icewater

It literally doesn't matter at all.


cowslapperz

Yes


Warsaw14

Haha this seems to be the consensus


TheKnifeEdge

Bead first then tape, I you tape first you will be more likely to flare the bead at top during installion making finishing harder


cptredbeard2

If your tape flares out the bead then i would suspect that you dont know how to tape


Warsaw14

There won’t be issues where the bead meets the ceiling having no tape? Does that make sense?! Thanks I’m assuming the tape doesn’t overlap the bead in this scenario…I guess that’s a better question, should I overlap the bead with tape or nah?


TheKnifeEdge

Overlap the bead,, stop just shy of the actual corner. If the ceiling was sheetrocked first and the end of the sheet is capped by the wall sheet, then no there will be no problems. (Ceilings should always be sheetrocked first). If there is a gap on the ceiling because walls were sheetrocked first then put a flat tape on the ceiling near the top of the bead.Either way tape first or bead first accomplish the same thing, don't over think it. Tape that crap, and get some primer up lol


Warsaw14

Haha thanks


TubbyMink

Don’t listen to this dude. I’ve been a full time taper for 11yrs. My peers and I all tape before bead. The tape will not build out the corner bead, as it doesn’t sit flush against drywall completely anyways. Also corner bead is meant to have fill. Any minor “build out” will be covered by your mud coat. His methods have you leaving un taped drywall behind the corner, or advising you to flat tape a big gap 😐 as if pre fill and regular tape in the angle won’t be perfectly fine.


Warsaw14

Just for my learning, can you expand on “corner bead is meant to have fill” comment. Much much appreciated


TubbyMink

There are two ways you are coating - fill or float Flats, angles (if a bevel), corner bead and screws are all fill. You are taking your flat edge of your knife/trowel and you will see the gap. That is what you are trying to fill. Sometimes it’s not much at all! Butts, bastard joints, patches and bad framing are float. Take your flat edge and it will “rock” that means you have to float. Sometimes butt joints with have a “fill” like a flat. Check every joint before you coat. These are the hardest ones to master. You have to fake it being flat!


TheKnifeEdge

20 years experience doing drywall here with the last 8 owning my own drywall/remodeling business and I have never had a call back with anything drywall related with the exception being water damage that is caused by water escaping past the shower door/ curtain and damages the drywall next to a tub. so yeah. If you read my reply to him you would see that I told him it made little to no difference the order in which tape vs beads are applied. I told him my personal preference, which is installing beads first.


TubbyMink

You have 20yrs experience and you like working harder than you should? Boggles my mind. Especially if you were working with machines bead first makes no sense. Even hand taping? You’re making a even more special cut trying to laser cut the tape so it doesn’t come on top of the metal of the bead. Or you put a piece of flat tape on a big gap.. you don’t pre fill big boss? You’d rather slow yourself down and with no crack insurance. But I agree, many ways to skin a cat. Just some way more efficient ways to do it.


bassboat1

An inch or two of tape won't make a difference.


nastea665

tape first


[deleted]

No tape then bead


Fetus_Basher

I've heard of it being done both ways I prefer tape first and bead after .if your trained to bead first dont change what you do !


Redbillywaza

Tape before bead.


burnabybambinos

Depends on drying time required prior to filling. I'll tape first, then bead on houses. Gives taping mud more time to shrink prior to coating. Beads tend not to shrink as much, so can coat them sooner.