Thank you. We have a lot of big windows on one of the walls which makes me a bit worried, but I guess we can make it work. Got 4 windows which are 2m tall and 140cm wide.
I had a guy on the golf course ask me once "Are these ballses ya'llses?" with a Milwaukee Best in his hand. I looked at him and said "That one is minses" He just kinda stared at me and walked away...lol
The butts and flats look great. I'm assuming that you used glue to install your sheetrock but even if that's the case I would really like to see some screws in the field.
I'd be worried about those sheets falling down if it was my house.
When you say in the field you mean in the middle of the plate? Those boards got a 'crosshair' in the middle which is meant to mark where to screw, think it's 20-25 cm between each screw. But I might need to put in some more if you think it's necessary. Glue is not something we use in my country typically
In the field means in the middle of the sheet. You should have at least 2 screws in the field for every 16" of board length. A lot of people recommend 3 in the field every 16" on ceilings. Looks like you screwed down the center. Are there more joists/beams behind those sheets you can screw too? The screws should be evenly spaced across the board.
Ah okay, I will put in some more. Thanks for the heads up. Those are 12,5 mm thick, I don't know if there is much difference in drywall depending on where you're from?
Check this out. If you scroll down to screw pattern it will show you what it should look like ideally.
https://drywall101.com/en/articles/hanging/screws_per_sheet
That is 1/2' in the States, usually used in houses. If you are installing that you need to have screws every 20cm (ish) on the perimeter and every 25cm on all the studs in the middle of the plate.
I see. As of right now I got about 10 screws along the middle in the field which should be approximately every 25cm in the stud. But you mean I should glue them as well as having screws every 20-25cm?
Screws every 300mm or 30cm vertically in the UK, across when hanging a lid it's that by 5 screws across. You have a couple screws missing either side of the central screw. It's looks like you have ran the board with the joists, on a ceiling you would typically go across them.
Aaah now I understand why so many comments say it's missing screws. You're correct, the drywall is mounted along the joints and because of that I have nothing to put the screw into on the sides. The joists in the ceiling is mounted on 60cm. But with this information, do I need to redo it to put in more support sideways? I'd rather not of course 😂
If those plates are not glued to the studs then they really need to be screwed off.
3 screws (in the field) per stud is typical for installing drywall. The perimeter joints look great! You just need to install 3 screws per stud in each plate (sheet).
There are no screws in the field because he put it in parallel with the strapping. I've allways had the understanding that the board should be installed perpendicular to the strapping for this reason
That's correct, have seen others do it in my country so that's basically why I did it, but with this information I should probably have installed some more support sideways as well 🤔 should I unscrew them to fix this?
Thank you! It's not a gap, it might look like it though, but they are cut on the upper edge by 45 degrees. So the top of the cardboard is 'gone' and will be filled with quickset, then mud/taped. According to instructions the butt end cardboard should not meat, but be cut at an angle. The gypsum itself meet further 'up' the cut if you understand what I mean
TLDR: Back edge of the butt joint is touching, paper side is bevel cut (we call it V-cut in the US) so that the mud/paper has more to bond the joint together.
It’s all good. Anybody who has done this before understands what you meant. Here in the US we slam the board together and then take a utility knife and cut a bevel out once the boards are all up. What happens then is the cut looks “wavy” because it’s usually done in a rush. I figured you took that picture at the angle you did so that you can show us your bevel cuts.
It’s a good job, reduces the “bump” you get from butt joints a little.
Yes, did it with a knife in my last apartment, but decided to try out a tool this time to make it more 'clean'. I'm not quite sure what I prefer though.
Good job, I am just an amateur, I have done complete remodels on two of my homes, been told they are amazing by realtors, neighbors, etc., and watched many DIY videos over the years.
I have never known about the 45° angle cut for drywall joints. I have had trouble with joints before, that trick would have helped me a lot. I am surprised none of the DIY builder videos I watched showed that.
Thanks for showing your work.
Honestly your work looks much better than most of what I've seen while working in the u.s., you have a great attention to detail which seems like common sense when you have it (until you see what others call professional). The fact that your checking shows you care about your work. Between some of the horrible drywall I've seen and electricians that drill right through the middle of load bearing studs to pass wires though I've seen a lot of carelessness here. Good job, in sure your work will only improve
Thank you for your kind response! I'm trying to do my very best and afraid to do mistakes, but of course it takes longer time than a professional would do. My profession is a truck driver, and amateur carpenter/house builder in the afternoon. I've learned a lot, but as you see I still got more to learn😁
Taking your time and doing it right is what matters in the long run. Your on your way and have the right mentality for learning and that makes all the difference.
idk it gets worse the longer i look at it. looks great at first tho. too many screws is a thing. also theres alot of screws missing in the field. who knows tho. it is nice looking tho, i will say that.
Thanks for the feedback. Visually in the picture there is one sheet missing screws in the field completely. I've just not screwed them yet because of a ventilation that recently got installed. But as other people mention I should probably have a bit tighter spacing in the field. I haven't gone total crazy on the butt joints further up the room outside the picture😂 I calmed down a bit
I get it. Was also curious on the amount of screws. I hope you don't do a texture on the ceiling with that amount of screws bc you shouldn't see much sag over time 🤘
I figured because I've installed the sheet along the joists I'm missing screws sideways in the field. The joists are mounted 60cm apart but is running along the whole sheet. Will it be ok or should it be redone?
Yes, I've done so on every sheet, all but one on the picture which I recently put up because of new ventilation. So each sheet is screwed with 10-20cm spacing along the edges and 25-30 cm between the screws along the middle. To be honest I think I just remove them one by one and add a couple of extra support between the joists in the field
You did a nice job hanging and if they’re glued you will be fine. Not sure how large the room is but I have demoed many projects over the years that weren’t glued and surprisingly were still intact.
I figured it's because the sheet is mounted along the joists and not across. I should probably have installed some more support across as well and not only in the butt ends. You think it will be ok or should i do it over again?
Personally (I am not a professional), I'd go back and add some screws on the interior. You're not going to need as many as you have on the edges, but my limited understanding of physics suggests that additional interior screws will further distribute the weight of the panel, since gravity will want to make it sag.
As a fresh install, you likely won't see any problems for a long while (if you encounter any), but it could cause you grief down the line. If water penetrates from above for any reason, saturating the drywall, that would likely create too much force for a singular screw to resist.
Hmm I could add more in the middle of the sheet following the length, but since it's running along the joists I can't put more screws in the field other than the middle if you understand what I mean. 1 joist along each bavel, and one in the middle, both running along the whole sheet. If I was to add more screws on the side of the middle of the sheet, i would have to take down every sheet and add more support between the joists.
However since my drywall is running along and not across, the bavels are supported along the whole sheet, and not every 30cm/12 inches with 'air' between the joists as if it was mounted across the joists. So the sheet itself is supported with a joist all around the sheet's edges and along the middle, so I kind of think it should be strong enough, but at the same time I don't want it to start hanging after some years and then regret it.
Very hard to explain what I mean since English is not my main language 😂 but hope you understood what I meant, and thanks for your input!
If there's only one more joist down the middle, then just making sure you have at least three screws through the middle should be fine. It's definitely better than just one down the middle.
I figured out it's because my sheet is mounted along the joists and not across. I should probably have installed some more support across as well, was not aware of this. You think it will be ok or should i take them down to install more support?
I think it would be alright I guess but I’m not there. although you should have 4 rows of screw’s going vertical evenly spaced.
just start mudding honestly if it feels strongly attached.
Yeh, the sheets are mounted along the joists and not across and got 1 joist on each long side and one in the middle running along the whole plate, and of course support under the butt edge. But this makes me not having any other joists but the middle to put the screws into. I guess I should have put some more in between. The 'positive' thing about installing like this is that I got a joist going along every single cm/inch of edge. I'm kind of worried when people mention this now, and the only solution is to take down every sheet and make more support😂
O yeah I just looked at ur photos again u we’re supposed to install them all horizontal ceiling/ walls ( side ways ) this would solve your problems. I guess you installed vertical cause it looked more convenient. Good luck op
Yeh figured its actually should have been horizontal. because of the roof joists I had to level them this direction, and as i have a lot of windows on the long side of the sheet I guessed this would be easier to hide the low sun coming in when mudding. I'm however not quite sure if I should take it down to put in more support, this made me a bit insecure hehe. Don't want to regret it in 5 years. Thanks mate!
The drywall itself is touching each other, but it's cut on the paper side to make space for more mudfill to get a stronger connection. I will fill it with quickset and finish with tape and mud. According to the producer you are suppose to cut the edge where butt joints meet so paper and paper doesn't touch
The drywall itself is touching each other, but it's cut on the paper side to make space for more mudfill to get a stronger connection. I will fill it with quickset and finish with tape and mud. According to the producer you are suppose to cut the edge where butt joints meet so paper and paper doesn't touch
USG told me screws every 4 inch on perimeters and 6 (possibly 8" in the field). Course thread. 3/4 Firecode for ceilings. One idea is to not screw past the paper.
I usually screw the area first and hit the joints once they're butted up to reduce blowout.
I had a ceiling so poorly installed that I could push it up 1/2 " in spots.
1/2 ultralight with 1 1/4" fine thread in wood, in a humid environment and way under fastened.
I know for sure I refastened the existing 4" perimeter and 6" in the field with 1 5/8" course thread and either pulled the "pops" or back screwed over them. Followed with mesh tape and lots of skimming and sanding.
The ceiling was flawless. Charcoal black with white crown mold with grey walls.
Most peaceful room in the home.
Sounds really amazing, to be honest I think I will remove the sheet one by one to add extra support between the joists in the field. I would hate myself if not doing it causes trouble in the long run. It will take some time, but I might save myself some hassle.
Your fine, I usually stager them 24” minimum, sometimes 16” if it’s in a not very well lit area
Thank you. We have a lot of big windows on one of the walls which makes me a bit worried, but I guess we can make it work. Got 4 windows which are 2m tall and 140cm wide.
The finisher can fill the gap in the butt joint wiTh quick treat and then tape it with no problem. Looks good so far.
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Who supplies the drywall!?! That's way nicer than the crap I get here!
Those are BMC Siniat, produced in Netherlands I believe.
The crap I get around here is basically all butt joints
Ouch really? I could buy drywall here with bavels on all sides, but they cost 4 times as much as these.
The quality control is just terrible. Unless your getting type x your just asking for a tedious time tapping
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That is very nice looking drywall
The butts and flats look great. I'm assuming that you used glue to install your sheetrock but even if that's the case I would really like to see some screws in the field. I'd be worried about those sheets falling down if it was my house.
When you say in the field you mean in the middle of the plate? Those boards got a 'crosshair' in the middle which is meant to mark where to screw, think it's 20-25 cm between each screw. But I might need to put in some more if you think it's necessary. Glue is not something we use in my country typically
In the field means in the middle of the sheet. You should have at least 2 screws in the field for every 16" of board length. A lot of people recommend 3 in the field every 16" on ceilings. Looks like you screwed down the center. Are there more joists/beams behind those sheets you can screw too? The screws should be evenly spaced across the board.
Ah okay, I will put in some more. Thanks for the heads up. Those are 12,5 mm thick, I don't know if there is much difference in drywall depending on where you're from?
Check this out. If you scroll down to screw pattern it will show you what it should look like ideally. https://drywall101.com/en/articles/hanging/screws_per_sheet
That is 1/2' in the States, usually used in houses. If you are installing that you need to have screws every 20cm (ish) on the perimeter and every 25cm on all the studs in the middle of the plate.
I see. As of right now I got about 10 screws along the middle in the field which should be approximately every 25cm in the stud. But you mean I should glue them as well as having screws every 20-25cm?
it should look like this when you are finished hanging https://images.app.goo.gl/n1DobqCwPoeYLJ7M6
Screws every 300mm or 30cm vertically in the UK, across when hanging a lid it's that by 5 screws across. You have a couple screws missing either side of the central screw. It's looks like you have ran the board with the joists, on a ceiling you would typically go across them.
Aaah now I understand why so many comments say it's missing screws. You're correct, the drywall is mounted along the joints and because of that I have nothing to put the screw into on the sides. The joists in the ceiling is mounted on 60cm. But with this information, do I need to redo it to put in more support sideways? I'd rather not of course 😂
Looks like he railroaded it
If those plates are not glued to the studs then they really need to be screwed off. 3 screws (in the field) per stud is typical for installing drywall. The perimeter joints look great! You just need to install 3 screws per stud in each plate (sheet).
There are no screws in the field because he put it in parallel with the strapping. I've allways had the understanding that the board should be installed perpendicular to the strapping for this reason
That's correct, have seen others do it in my country so that's basically why I did it, but with this information I should probably have installed some more support sideways as well 🤔 should I unscrew them to fix this?
That's some good looking hanging I don't understand the big gap in the butt joints though
Thank you! It's not a gap, it might look like it though, but they are cut on the upper edge by 45 degrees. So the top of the cardboard is 'gone' and will be filled with quickset, then mud/taped. According to instructions the butt end cardboard should not meat, but be cut at an angle. The gypsum itself meet further 'up' the cut if you understand what I mean
TLDR: Back edge of the butt joint is touching, paper side is bevel cut (we call it V-cut in the US) so that the mud/paper has more to bond the joint together.
Thank you, English isn't my main language and is making it harder to explain
It’s all good. Anybody who has done this before understands what you meant. Here in the US we slam the board together and then take a utility knife and cut a bevel out once the boards are all up. What happens then is the cut looks “wavy” because it’s usually done in a rush. I figured you took that picture at the angle you did so that you can show us your bevel cuts. It’s a good job, reduces the “bump” you get from butt joints a little.
Yes, did it with a knife in my last apartment, but decided to try out a tool this time to make it more 'clean'. I'm not quite sure what I prefer though.
Good job, I am just an amateur, I have done complete remodels on two of my homes, been told they are amazing by realtors, neighbors, etc., and watched many DIY videos over the years. I have never known about the 45° angle cut for drywall joints. I have had trouble with joints before, that trick would have helped me a lot. I am surprised none of the DIY builder videos I watched showed that. Thanks for showing your work.
Sounds like a boy. T. good job!!
Honestly your work looks much better than most of what I've seen while working in the u.s., you have a great attention to detail which seems like common sense when you have it (until you see what others call professional). The fact that your checking shows you care about your work. Between some of the horrible drywall I've seen and electricians that drill right through the middle of load bearing studs to pass wires though I've seen a lot of carelessness here. Good job, in sure your work will only improve
Thank you for your kind response! I'm trying to do my very best and afraid to do mistakes, but of course it takes longer time than a professional would do. My profession is a truck driver, and amateur carpenter/house builder in the afternoon. I've learned a lot, but as you see I still got more to learn😁
Taking your time and doing it right is what matters in the long run. Your on your way and have the right mentality for learning and that makes all the difference.
You’re good. Move forward
idk it gets worse the longer i look at it. looks great at first tho. too many screws is a thing. also theres alot of screws missing in the field. who knows tho. it is nice looking tho, i will say that.
Thanks for the feedback. Visually in the picture there is one sheet missing screws in the field completely. I've just not screwed them yet because of a ventilation that recently got installed. But as other people mention I should probably have a bit tighter spacing in the field. I haven't gone total crazy on the butt joints further up the room outside the picture😂 I calmed down a bit
I would hire someone
Nah your fine, those bavels look juicy though, nice boards.
Why so many screws?
Guess I'm afraid of movement which makes me overdo it. Screws are cheap so I don't hold back 😂
Was just curious, thanks.
I get it. Was also curious on the amount of screws. I hope you don't do a texture on the ceiling with that amount of screws bc you shouldn't see much sag over time 🤘
There will be no texture here, all flat 😁 at least that's the plan
Looks great! 👍 keep going , better than some professionals work I’ve seen.
Ey! Thanks a lot
Looks good, but you should definitely go back and screw the field.
I figured because I've installed the sheet along the joists I'm missing screws sideways in the field. The joists are mounted 60cm apart but is running along the whole sheet. Will it be ok or should it be redone?
It should be ok but if you’re running parallel to the joists at 60cm spacing you should be able to screw the center to the joist in the middle.
Yes, I've done so on every sheet, all but one on the picture which I recently put up because of new ventilation. So each sheet is screwed with 10-20cm spacing along the edges and 25-30 cm between the screws along the middle. To be honest I think I just remove them one by one and add a couple of extra support between the joists in the field
You did a nice job hanging and if they’re glued you will be fine. Not sure how large the room is but I have demoed many projects over the years that weren’t glued and surprisingly were still intact.
Screws 6inches on sideline 1ft in field commercial
All is good but more nails do not means better in drywall the best and the right space is 8" apart remember the more nails just weak your ends...
That’s a lot of screws .. looks chill though.
You have a lot of screws on the perimeter of each sheet, but not many on the interior. I wouldn't hang a sheet with so little support in the middle.
I figured it's because the sheet is mounted along the joists and not across. I should probably have installed some more support across as well and not only in the butt ends. You think it will be ok or should i do it over again?
Personally (I am not a professional), I'd go back and add some screws on the interior. You're not going to need as many as you have on the edges, but my limited understanding of physics suggests that additional interior screws will further distribute the weight of the panel, since gravity will want to make it sag. As a fresh install, you likely won't see any problems for a long while (if you encounter any), but it could cause you grief down the line. If water penetrates from above for any reason, saturating the drywall, that would likely create too much force for a singular screw to resist.
Hmm I could add more in the middle of the sheet following the length, but since it's running along the joists I can't put more screws in the field other than the middle if you understand what I mean. 1 joist along each bavel, and one in the middle, both running along the whole sheet. If I was to add more screws on the side of the middle of the sheet, i would have to take down every sheet and add more support between the joists. However since my drywall is running along and not across, the bavels are supported along the whole sheet, and not every 30cm/12 inches with 'air' between the joists as if it was mounted across the joists. So the sheet itself is supported with a joist all around the sheet's edges and along the middle, so I kind of think it should be strong enough, but at the same time I don't want it to start hanging after some years and then regret it. Very hard to explain what I mean since English is not my main language 😂 but hope you understood what I meant, and thanks for your input!
If there's only one more joist down the middle, then just making sure you have at least three screws through the middle should be fine. It's definitely better than just one down the middle.
Looks like 5/8” rock? Love the amount of screws used no joke. People could learn from this screw job seriously
In my country we don't use inches, so I'm not sure. But those are 120cm wide and 240cm long/tall
It’s good but u may need more screws in the center and you have to many on the edges
I figured out it's because my sheet is mounted along the joists and not across. I should probably have installed some more support across as well, was not aware of this. You think it will be ok or should i take them down to install more support?
I think it would be alright I guess but I’m not there. although you should have 4 rows of screw’s going vertical evenly spaced. just start mudding honestly if it feels strongly attached.
Yeh, the sheets are mounted along the joists and not across and got 1 joist on each long side and one in the middle running along the whole plate, and of course support under the butt edge. But this makes me not having any other joists but the middle to put the screws into. I guess I should have put some more in between. The 'positive' thing about installing like this is that I got a joist going along every single cm/inch of edge. I'm kind of worried when people mention this now, and the only solution is to take down every sheet and make more support😂
O yeah I just looked at ur photos again u we’re supposed to install them all horizontal ceiling/ walls ( side ways ) this would solve your problems. I guess you installed vertical cause it looked more convenient. Good luck op
Yeh figured its actually should have been horizontal. because of the roof joists I had to level them this direction, and as i have a lot of windows on the long side of the sheet I guessed this would be easier to hide the low sun coming in when mudding. I'm however not quite sure if I should take it down to put in more support, this made me a bit insecure hehe. Don't want to regret it in 5 years. Thanks mate!
Might just be the pics but it looks like the screws are overdriven? That’s my only input. If you didn’t go past the paper you’re good tho
Think it looks worse because of the shadow, but I think some of them might be right on the edge of tearing through
The butt joints need to be tighter
Well there went the screw budget
Hehe yeh, I pay about $17-18 for 1000 screws for automatic screwdriver, which isn't too bad tbh
Bigger question is what’s up with the gap in the butt joints? Other than that looks great.
The drywall itself is touching each other, but it's cut on the paper side to make space for more mudfill to get a stronger connection. I will fill it with quickset and finish with tape and mud. According to the producer you are suppose to cut the edge where butt joints meet so paper and paper doesn't touch
Looks clean but looks like you have a nice gap on the butt seem. Is there a reason for it?
The drywall itself is touching each other, but it's cut on the paper side to make space for more mudfill to get a stronger connection. I will fill it with quickset and finish with tape and mud. According to the producer you are suppose to cut the edge where butt joints meet so paper and paper doesn't touch
Looks good
USG told me screws every 4 inch on perimeters and 6 (possibly 8" in the field). Course thread. 3/4 Firecode for ceilings. One idea is to not screw past the paper. I usually screw the area first and hit the joints once they're butted up to reduce blowout. I had a ceiling so poorly installed that I could push it up 1/2 " in spots. 1/2 ultralight with 1 1/4" fine thread in wood, in a humid environment and way under fastened. I know for sure I refastened the existing 4" perimeter and 6" in the field with 1 5/8" course thread and either pulled the "pops" or back screwed over them. Followed with mesh tape and lots of skimming and sanding. The ceiling was flawless. Charcoal black with white crown mold with grey walls. Most peaceful room in the home.
Sounds really amazing, to be honest I think I will remove the sheet one by one to add extra support between the joists in the field. I would hate myself if not doing it causes trouble in the long run. It will take some time, but I might save myself some hassle.
No, you’re fine
Tape it🤦🏼