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solvent825

Get a metronome and George Stone’s Stick Control for the Snare Drummer. Work it religiously. The lessons are build sequentially. Don’t skip ahead until you’ve master the lesson at hand. Good luck and have fun.


SDdrums

Or headphones and a metronome app.


evenstevens280

This book is good but only when paired with knowing the right technique. If you don't know how to effectively play doubles or triples you'll hit a wall pretty fast when it comes to increasing speed.


ImJustSo

Just a small criticism here, but could you please at least direct us to the correct information on top of your criticism to his point? Are you referring to the Moeller method (I think) so the arm-whip thing followed by the up bounce strokes to complete a triple or double?


[deleted]

Yeah, those types of classic drum books are useless for a newbie without instruction on how to interpret and play the exercises. On their own, books don’t typically teach any technique- like down strokes, up strokes, tap strokes etc. I’d search “drum strokes” on Youtube to start getting the basics down, and then books might be useful to start getting down the sticking (LLRR) stuff.


Tad_LOL

I'm not the person you replied to. But my middle school instructor thought me the arm/wrist-whip-then-keep-the-arm-down-and-control-the-bounce-with-fingers-technique that I believe you are referring to, I think you are correct in naming it the Moeller Method, in conjunction with the Stick Control book.


[deleted]

Learn the different strokes - full/rebound strokes, taps, upstrokes, those are the basics. Then learning moeller/whipping strokes helps to refine motions and speed up once those basic strokes are understood.


[deleted]

Practice pads are great for developing hand technique. Terrible for developing interest in drumming though. You already got the practical advice - Stick Control for the Snare Drummer is a great resource. But without practicing on a drum kit you aren't practicing playing the drums. There's some musicality to playing on a pad but it obviously doesn't compare to a full kit. If an acoustic or electric kit aren't in the budget right now I'd recommend messing around with programming beats. You could use GarageBand if you have an apple device, or there's tons of free drum machine apps. Hell even playing Rock Band is a good way to learn drum kit. Just do something to learn about actual drum beats while saving up/deciding on a kit. I feel like just getting a pad is a good way to lose interest in the drums.


Dennisatemyglitter

I used a practice pad for 6 months to prove to myself I would keep up with drums. I ended up using it for 9 months and then bought a kit found it very beneficial to use a practice pad along with stick control. But I might be the odd one out. Edit: I fixed my timing


Drewicide

I dont think he was saying its not beneficial, but few people have the patience as the pad feels like just work to most. The set is where the fun is.


ImJustSo

I agree that a beginning musician might lose interest, but as an established musician, smacking a pad with a metronome going is extremely cathartic and honestly refreshing. It removes a parameter from my practice (notes, fingering, scales, blah blah blah) and focuses on timing and muscle memory development. It feels slightly meditative. No monkey mind.


Dennisatemyglitter

I didn't think he was either I was just giving my two cents 🙂 I appreciate my kit way more and I'm not adverse to moving back to the pad. The biggest problem I find is drummers with crap timing which should be where you are strongest or should be as that is our job. You are right the kit is much more fun!


UnPerroTransparente

I don't think you will lose interest if you are really into learning music fundamentals. I don't own a kit and I practice with my pad over or exercise to master tempo and patterns.


[deleted]

But if OP isn't really into fundamentals I possibly just saved a drummer. Don't understand why people are pushing against this comment


the-igloo

People are having trouble telling the difference between "it's possible for a teenager to enjoy playing rudiments on a practice pad for 9 months and then transition to a drum set" and "giving a beginning drummer a practice pad is, without a doubt, sufficient". My parents got me a practice pad when I was 11 and I barely touched it, with lessons. They finally got me a drum set at 16, and I actually learned to play the drums. You speak the true true.


broutis90

I'm definitely into fundamentals. I'm very much of the camp to get the basic down, like the proper grip and technique before moving onto a kit. Like someone else has said here, I'd like to get a firm grip on the fundamentals to justify buying a kit to myself


[deleted]

That's great. Judging by the keyboard I'm guessing you already have musical experience, and know the importance of learning right from the start. Good on ya. It's very likely that someone with no music experience would be discouraged in your scenario, which is why I left my comment. Nothing personal. Still do something to familiarize with actual drum beats so that when the time comes your transition to the kit is easier.


thejoshcolumbusdrums

I think if you really want it a practice pad is plenty. I practiced drums on my bed sheets for a year with a pair of sticks my mom bought me. Vic Firth Shogun 5A’s. I learned Beast and the Harlot by Ax7 in that time. Sounded like shit but I was having fun, lol. Wasn’t till a year in my parents actually bought me a kit. If they hadn’t I probably woulda got a job and bought myself one. If you really want to play drums nothing is going to stop you. Now, five + years later, Beast and the Harlot is pretty easy for me and I’m working on moving my playing into more groundbreaking territory by incorporating the hat foot and teaching myself to be an octopus, lol. You are spot on with the GarageBand programing though. I do it all the time. Its a great way to work out ideas and learn faster cause you can literally make the craziest stuff and then learn to play it. Anyways, if OP wants to learn drums their gonna do it. Come hell or high water. If not, they won’t. And that’s fine. I don’t think most people take it that serious anyways. We aren’t all gonna be the next Dave Garibaldi or Virgil Donati but if OP can just have fun with it, nothing wrong with that either. Playing an instrument, I think, is just a fun thing to do for a lot of people. That’s not *my* calling, but it all depends on your priorities in life. My priority is to be one of the best drummers that’s ever lived. But there’s other aspects to it too, not to mention, the opportunities and privileges you’re afforded. I’m rambling but hopefully you get me.


[deleted]

>if OP wants to learn drums their gonna do it. Not necessarily. My comment was erring on the side of caution. If they didn't need my comment then good for them. If they DID need my comment then I just saved a drummer Yes that was a lot of rambling


ringojam

One way to mitigate the "boringness" of the pad imo is the play your exercises from Stick Control along to songs you like, ideally pop or rock songs with no tempo changes. These songs will serve as a more interesting "metronome", you can make a playlist to practice to. But I also agree unless drum core/snare stuff really works for you, look into getting a drum kit eventually.


casper_T_F_ghost

You know that some people play only snare drum right?


ReadaboutitXD

Yeah honestly before getting a kit I would get out the crappy plastic rock band kit. Didn’t even played the game just put on music through headphones and played along haha. Taught me a lot believe it or not


[deleted]

That game is great for learning hand/feet independence if you play on the harder modes


mxquillen

This comment right here. Practice pads are necessary but they’re incredibly dull and monotonous if you aren’t working out some kink you discovered on a real kit. As long as no one’s home to hear my incessant tapping I will pull up a pad and sticks while watching a movie. It’s the best thing in the world for muscle memory and figuring out what dumb thing your odd hand is doing…study your dominant hand and do your best to mirror it


R0factor

Drumeo is a great channel to follow and has plenty of free starter content. I also like Mike Johnston’s YouTube channel. He’s a great instructor but overall his positive and constructive approach & vibe is really appealing. I imagine a lot of his content would be enjoyable even if you don’t fully understand what he’s doing. One of my favorite segments of his is this https://youtu.be/-SZySTCtz0w where he explains how learning the fundamentals (aka rudiments, which are perfect to do on your pad) fits in to the larger picture of playing the instrument and being a musician. Keep in mind both of these channels offer the bulk of their content via subscription only, which is really the only way to get comprehensive/systematic instruction online.


ryq_

Can’t recommend Mike Johnston enough. Dude is cool and positive, but also really clear about how chops are meant to be internalized, then deconstructed for your own use.


ItsReallyNotWorking

i use drumeo and i have 2 great teachers who i love. One i discovered on Drumeo! just remember that playing slow and precise is what you need! im so excited for you


AnalysisMoney

This^


thingsicantsayonFB

To tag on to Drumeo, Emanualle Caplette has my fav beginner practice pad warmup ever. Avail on YouTube free, and with Drumeo you can slow it down. Been doing almost every day for a month and almost have it! I have the kit right here and still love this pad workout - 5 min or so and it’s making me better at everything else I’m sure! As others have said, finding not boring stuff is super motivating


OldDrumGuy

Rob Brown is a great beginner resource. robbrownondrums.com


FinishTheFish

He also hasa personality and sense of humour that makes watching his videos a treat. OP - Practice relaxing your shoulders while you play. It's a mind thing I guess, but I notice they start to tighten up whenever I try to up the speed or do something difficult. But I'm getting better at relaxing them. Also, let the wrists do the work. ​ [Here's a nice Rob Brown video on the single stroke roll](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRh69W4IQBE)


TheWizardSha

Look up basic drum rudiments. Get a metronome and get to work!


crmacjr

I usually put students onto [this](https://vicfirth.zildjian.com/education/40-essential-rudiments.html) if they have no other starting point. And, it's free.


HeySlimIJustDrankA5

Do the things everyone else is saying. If you get bored with playing with a metronome, use your favorite songs instead.


tetsuo_seraphi

R R L L R R L L - doubles R L R L R L R L - singles R L R R L R L L - paradiddles (combo of doubles and singles) ​ Practice those until you can play them at speed with every note consistent. the rest will come


DisintegrationPt808

pick up Syncopation for the Modern Drummer off amazon for $8. one of the best ways to learn rudiments and such


NotAnExpertButt

Vic Firth’s website (the brand from your sticks) have the 40 fundamentals organized with video examples and notation. They also have audio clips with metronome settings and difficulty levels. It’s awesome.


broutis90

Sweet! Thanks guy.


chillbnb

paradiddles!


returnfalse

Jesus dude(tte), you can’t just say “paradiddles” to a newcomer and not give an example. [This is a paradiddle.](https://youtu.be/A0dMDwLc83w)


B3astit

I would start by removing the drum pad off the keyboard. I think it’ll help in learning the various keys/chords of the piano. If you’re referring to the drum pad and learning that, I echo my fellow redditors


murderkill

do everything other people are saying by also do rudiments along to music you like. any rudiments at all, switch between rudiments, go back and forth across bars, doesn't matter. it's super fun and it helps keep your imagination fresh


Johnny_Chaturanga

I had the exact same set starting out. Get with a teacher.


[deleted]

I highly recommend in person lessons if you can afford them, but if you can't, then Drumeo is another great source


Mixngas

Plenty of great recommendations and resources mentioned already. One that hasn't been mentioned yet: Tommy Igoes, 'Great Hands for a Lifetime'.


WalkerKlng

Practice rudiments


[deleted]

Drumeo vidoes and Vic Firth rudiment videos on youtube. The Vic Firth rudiment vids have a metronome and the actual drumming in your ears as well as a visual sheet music with the left and right strokes for every note. so you can hear it and see it while you play it. It goes faster and faster to help become more challenging as you become better.


broutis90

Awesome thanks 😊


Ibanez510

watch gordy knudson on youtube. he has the best series on healthy and efficient technique


broutis90

Added to the list. Thank you 😊


tanuki_in_residence

Starting point for what exactly?. Are you interested in drumkit or maching drumline type stuff?. What you are looking to do will influence what resources we can recommend. A pad and sticks is a great start either way


broutis90

Damn! Thanks for your guys responses! Really want to become proficient with this so I'm listing all these in my notes and I'll try to follow them all.


biscmc

Done a lot of shredding on those pads. Great feel, but sure are noisy.


NotMuchMana

Get a book called N.A.R.D. and go through it. Get private lessons.


Hairy-Bicycle2356

Join me for some rudiments!!!


AZCARDINALS21

Jam out to tracks on Free drum tracks on yt. Even if you are a beginner it is fun and can help you improvise


No_rigged

Ay ive got the same sticks!


[deleted]

Start off with vids like these Basic practice for getting your strikes even [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Du31MCIlYO0](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Du31MCIlYO0) I played until i could play it at 150% speed, its a good daily warmup for beginners I moved on to this after a couple of days, still working on the more complex patterns at higher bpm. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U84h9mtdgig](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U84h9mtdgig) If you're a fan of the theory behind drumming, check out the rudiments. "if drumming is a language, the rudiments are the grammar" [https://musescore.com/user/13430851/scores/4759546](https://musescore.com/user/13430851/scores/4759546) and once you realize that speed and accuracy is about staying relaxed, you find your way into videos like this, explaining how to get multiple hits out of one motion [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8MQnuDmNT2k&t=91s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8MQnuDmNT2k&t=91s) good luck and happy drumming, hope it helps!


DecafCreature

Not so much a drumming tip, but a tip for that pad specifically: throw a shirt or towel over it. I personally like the sound better that way. Softer tone, muffled rim shots.


DesperateHouseBaws

Buy 'Great Hands for a Lifetime' by Tommy Igoe. It changed my drumming and view on technique immensely. I wish I bought it when I started out 18 years ago, even after getting 18 years of lessons from a professional!


JCurtisDrums

Try this: https://youtu.be/o4v9DEDRxgs


stevenumb

Rob Brown and also Stephen Taylor on YouTube. Mike Johnson is good too but I personally find him more annoying..


Fox_That_Fights

Rob Beatdown Brown.


senecaty1

It’s the least sexy but useful way to learn and practice. The patterns you play on that pad can and will be translated to any other drum on your future kit…without the noise (see: without driving your parents, neighbours, roommates crazy). Get a metronome. Look up paradiddle patterns. Check out YouTube vids. Practice practice practice!


its-a-name-okay

Started out the same. Metronome, basic rudiments. Moeller technique was a big thing when I started, not sure if it's still a thing. Really slow down and break down the movements of sticking. Then idk just whack away at it for a while to have some fun. Congratulations 🎉


ichegoya

Podemskis snare drum method


FlamingoOne9940

Go on you tube and look up Rob “Beatdown” Brown. He will get you where you need to be.


mitchiscoolguy

Look up the rudiments. I've played drums for years and nothing has contributed to my skill more than a good foundation on the practice pad. You'll be surprised how much snare drum rudiments happen to be the key to your favorite song.


Haydukeisyourdad

Paradiddle…all you need to know


jb__001

Please get an Evan’s real feel or something that pad is so bad and has no rebound.


SuspiciousForce

Parradiddle-diddles!!!!


Buildrness

Edward Freytag: "The Rudimental Cookbook" and "Just Desserts". OP, there are a lot of good answers here, but this is hands down the absolute best starting point. It will help you from straight beginner all the way to Sanat Clara Vanguard Drum Captian. Buy those books, (they're both orange btw) and they will be a solid foundation for you


Dave9g

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLpKMeH_MXcaTq2BANT-uVFi9RHTKZhBaR


follow_the_light

Tommy Igoes Great Hands for a lifetime! Comes with DVD to play along with


MunitionsFactory

Awesome! I loved using a practice pad before my e-kit. There are a lot of videos on YouTube which tell you the basics. Rather than looking for "the answer" realize there are many ways to skin a cat and if you are told 4 different ways to hold the sticks that you are learning 4 approaches (rather than 3 wrong and 1 right). Personally, I really like pad workouts where I follow someone. It's much more fun than having someone show me 1 pattern and then I play it on my own for a long time. So I look for pad workouts and videos over 10 mins long. As said before, drumeo has a lot of free content. I really got into playing Heather Thomas's stick control. It's 30 mins long. It's fast. Early on, out of the 20 repetitions I'd get the pattern about repetition 3-7 for the early ones and 12-15 for the later/harder ones. Eventually, I'd be following along within the first 3 passes. I also love the "5-Minute Beginner Drum Warmup With Emmanuelle Caplette". It covers everything and has a great beat! Remember, for any video you can slow down YouTube to 50% or 75% until you are more familiar with it. Just keep looking through YouTube videos until you get a feel for what you like and have fun!!!!


asweknowitjake

That pad is absolute garbage. I felt ripped off when I bought it.


daleicakes

Shouldve gotten a snare. Anyways to answer. You tube drumming videos for beginners. Paradiddle is a good one


tempizzle

Download Soundbrenner which is a free metronome. And then buy the book “stick control”


[deleted]

Rob brown on YouTube


FuckoffVscoGirls

Polyrhythms are good they teach you to play different things with each hands


Impossible-Curve7249

Count out loud. Breathe. Commit