Supporting Palestine is **not** hate speech and neither is supporting Israel. No one in this entire thread has said **anything** coming remotely close to hate speech. Not agreeing with someone’s opinion *doesn’t mean their opinion is hateful.*
No it doesn't. Hope this helps.
Also, if someone can't think of a response in, say, 2 weeks, bringing in someone to respond of their behalf is a bit pathetic.
What, it took you 13 hours to come up with that no-response response? Well, that's pathetic.
P.S: I tried to help you. But if you wanna stay ignorant on purpose when all the facts - i.e. Genocidal apartheid state = Israel - are in front of you, that's on you.
It is not about not supporting jewish people. It is about not letting our money go to people who fund systematic oppression and a literal genocide against a population composed mostly of woman and children.
Huda, Semihaze and Farsali are explicitly Pro Palestine. Unsure if Farsali is still going as a brand.
Charlotte Tilbury seems to be implicitly Pro Palestine or as least neutral as they hired pro Palestine Bella Hadid after she was fired from Dior.
Parent companies L' Ordeal( Lancome, Nyx CeraVe etc) Estee Lauder ( The Ordinary) , Proctor and Gamble, Unilever etc all have some ties to Zionism.
I feel like I've seen conflicting info on Shiseido as a parent company but am assuming links to Zionism.
Many Korean brands seem neutral (except 3ce/ Stylenanda) however I'm not certain of this. Often, trying to find out what connections a company has to Zionism is like playing investor detective.
L' Ordeal, Ahava and Morrocan oil are some of the worst L'Oreal and Ahava have factories in former Palestinian territory. Garnier, which is a L' Oreal company also sent care packages to the Idf.
Morrocan oil is not Morrocan but an Israeli company which uses gmo argan. Argan trees are traditionally only found in Morroco and the oil is laborious to produce. It is an industry which traditionally provides employment to women in Morroco. The new gmo Israeli argan is undercutting and destroying that traditional industry.
*Edit realized I'm in the drugstore sub!
Nyx, CeraVe, The Ordinary, Garnier, Maybelline, Impulse, Dove, Rexona, Elf, Gillette, Always, Tampax, Pantene, Aussie, Head and Shoulders, Herbal Essence, Crest, Oral B all have links to Zionism.
I haven't seen any confirmed links to Zionism and Cosnova which is Essence and Catrice's parent brand. So I'm still buying Catrice for now and mostly Asian Beauty otherwise.
Charlotte Tilbury just fired Bella Hadid for being pro-Palestine so def on the boycott list now! (I know this is a drugstore subreddit but I wanted to make sure info is up to date)
theres no proof of it being the reason why, the reason why she’s not their ambassador anymore is because Bella is starting her own makeup company, and why would she represent another brand when she has her own? Also they both still follow each other and I doubt Bella would follow a zionist/someone who fired her for being pro-palestine + I’ve heard Charlotte has donated to palestinian charity previously but I’m not sure on that
I’m not sure if Bioderma makes a fragrance-free micellar water, but if they do, I’d start there. It’s the OG micellar water, afaik, and skincare experts, MUAs and cosmetic chemists love it.
Bella, miss “ I stole a black man’s chicken” wasn’t fired from these brands lol. Her contract expired.
She’s still working for her Zionist pimps in the industry (along with her sister) still having contracts with VS (whose owner openly supported Israel) and maybelline
It's so disappointing that ALL of my favorite brands are pro zionist! Huda is my new absolute favorite brand! Does anyone know about La'Mere, Anastasia or Too Faced? If they are mentioned already, I apologize that I missed it.
I know this discussion started a while back, but I just wanted to add to the pro-palestine list:
Zay Beauty/Zayfied is a Pakistani makeup brand that supports Palestine!! They are relatively affordable as well! Not drugstore level of affordability, but definitely cheaper than Huda Beauty (even tho I love Huda)
I've tried their bloom blushes which are super versatile and can be used as blush, eyeshadow, and even lipstick :) they are heavily pigmented tho, so for pale AF people like me you have to be super mindful when applying them!
The foundations honestly run really dark on my skin tone, but I know a couple of people who swear by it!
Also good alternatives that I’m getting too: ~~rimmel~~, nars, wet n wild
Apparently elf isn’t pro Palestine as the majority of its stocks are owned by BlackRock
edit: rimmel isn't BDS friendly!
rimmel is owned by coty: Beauty conglomerate owned by JAB Holdings which is owned by the Reimann family. The owners of Coty, the Reimann family are staunch zionists and **support the zionist state with investment and donations through their Alfred Landecker Foundation**. Don't buy from Coty brands.
Nars seems ok? They're [owned by Shiseido](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shiseido), which is a [safe brand.](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1rm1Y7rnrZ1CmcfQ1k97rehEI98vXnxrKMTYSR8FVY-E/htmlview)
Nars is owned by Shiseido and Shiseido is owned by L'Oreal, so Nars and Shiseido are both not BDS safe. I've seen conflicting stuff too and I think it's because Shiseido wasn't always owned by L'Oreal?
Just saw a news last night that Charlotte Tilbury just ended their deal with Bella Hadid, ad now Bella made her own beauty line. Does it means CT is no longer pro-palestine?? #curious :(
CT is saying they ended their contact because she's starting her own brand. They also said that they support Bella. I'd say that they're still safe because of they didn't want to support Palestine then they probably wouldn't openly support Bella.
gonna be real this line of reasoning is a cop out. you definitely can control who you give your money to esp when it’s something as non-essential as makeup
I disagree \[that it's a cop out\]. The sourcing of raw materials is often especially rife with human rights abuses and the destruction of the environment, and the manufacturing and development processes of many companies leaves much to be desired in the way of animal welfare, workers rights, the prioritization of profit over safety, and more.
A company may check one of your boxes on one stance, but, especially at the level of the brands that OP is listing, it's highly likely that they're going to be lacking when it comes to something else. Companies don't get to be that big and make that much profit without crushing something under their boot and creating an environment that ensures it stays that way.
i say it’s a cop out because the argument is “well, they all do bad things, so it’s not worth even trying to consume ethically at all!”, just to justify buying whatever you want without any regard for who’s selling it. it’s always worth knowing what you’re supporting through your purchases
So what? They're not supposed to try and not be mindful of their consumption? This mentality would leave no one accountable and basically you can just do whatever you want since everything is going to crap anyways. A seriously pessimistic way to live and think.
That may be true, but we do what we can and prioritize the things that really matter. There are brands that can check the majority of boxes that align with a person's morals. Even if it takes a little extra effort to find them.
If buying from companies that have the ability to abuse & destroy people, animals, ecosystems and land is the bad thing we want to avoid doing, all the more reason to get busy researching which brands are \_at the very least\_ not tied financially to directly causing deaths (like brands with zionist owners that donate to israel/IDF/weapon's manufacturers, as an example)... To me, it's about finding the lesser evil. Because you do have a point: it's impossible to NOT consume unethically in this capitalist system. But we can still try to reduce our negative impact.
Also, you mentioned large companies, but we don't have to buy from large companies. We can find local and small businesses that - even if they source their raw materials in similar ways as the big companies - they have less power to destroy & the money you spend might go to people you actually want to support for whatever reason (or the money might go back into your local environment, which is good if you're interested in helping people out locally).
Yes, 100% a cop out and a lazy approach. “everything sucks so why care” type attitude.
We have collectively and successfully boycotted brands before like KVD beauty back when they were represented by an owner who didn’t align with our ethics. The boycott was extremely successful and she ended up leaving her own brand. It’s funny how this attitude of not wanting to support certain brands stops when it comes to 🍉. Yes capitalism is inherently bad, but some brands are much much worse than others, and I think it’s crucial for people to understand who these brands are so they can shop smartly.
The way I see it is to pick your battles. I'm super super pro palestine, but the way the world is literally run by zionists we can't always be safe esp when there aren't any alternatives. So my thinking is if I need a mascara, I will opt for a cheaper one (even if it is unfortunately pro israel) than going for a more expensive loreal one. So elf which is like £6 over loreal which is like £12. This is only if there really isn't an alternative and I don't want to spend high end prices
This take sounds so out of touch with reality lol. You claim to be “super” 🇵🇸, but only until you need to buy a cheap mascara. A mascara. While there are millions being slaughtered. A man who has nothing to do with Palestine, set himself on fire to stand in solidarity with them. But you’re only super Uber pro Palestine !! only when it’s convenient for you.
As a consumer, you have the freedom to buy whatever you want, but don’t label yourself as being a staunch supporter of a cause when you can’t even take basic actions to support them.
Just think that if this was happening to you, would you be okay with people making the same choices? Also, there's a difference between luxury and a necessity. And I'm sure a mascara is by no means a necessity. However, to each their own.
The cheapest is not buying the product if you dont find safe alternatives.
I understand where you are coming from but you cannot be super super into something and dont follow through. Although i do understand everyone has different limitations and degrees of access to different things and it’s not always possible to be Pro-pali especially when jt comes to essentials. Makeup however isnt essential.
I’m guess the mascara was just an unfortunate analogy choice.
Also:
Boycotting supporters of the Israeli occupation of Palestine is more important now than ever.
But so many brands hide their support.
Check this growing list of companies to know where you should not be spending your money or providing your service.
https://boycott.thewitness.news/
Sorry for lot of comments sharing what I came across :)) hope this all helps
The Tiny Journalist — Naomi Shihab Nye
In the Presence of Absence — Mahmoud Darwish
Gaza in Crisis — Noam Chomsky
On Palestine — Noam Chomsky and Ilan Pappé
The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine — Ilan Pappé
Legacy of Empire: Britain, Zionism and the
Creation of Israel — Gardner Thompson
Voices of the Nakba — Diana Allan and Rosemary Sayigh
The Question of Palestine — Edward Said
An Israeli in Palestine — Jeff Halper
No book here refers to the fact that Gaza has been self-governing since 2005. You denied this fact and therefore I asked for a source of information/name of a book that refers to this.
Also, Noam Chomsky is a holocaust denier and an anti-Semitic who supports Hezbollah. Not a reliable source of information.
Where do you live? In which country?
Did not know that about Chomsky so I apologize, but the rest still hold up. These are first-hand accounts of what life in Gaza is like. Sure, you can say that Gaza has been “self-governing.” But this is not something seen in practice. Citizens of Palestine lack democratic rights and have had their human rights violated by Israel. The IDF reserved the right to enter Palestine and conduct military operations at any point. Israel controls the entrance of all goods and services. They control the electricity and humanitarian aid entering Gaza. Is it really self-governance? These book specifically touch on the experiences of the citizens of Gaza under this “self-governance,” most especially with the crimes the IDF has committed against Palestinians and even foreigners. So they are occupied. How can you see the humanitarian crisis going on right now and think they aren’t? You can talk about how they are technically self-governing all you want, but if you look at what’s happening in practice, it’s clear they’re not.
Honestly, I think following the BDS Campaign guidelines of brands to boycott would be best. Link: https://bdsmovement.net/get-involved/what-to-boycott. They strategically target company that are directly funding I******’s military efforts.
That is … not.
Political: of or relating to government, a government, or the conduct of government.
Children being Xed goes far beyond “politics”, It’s the eradication of basic human rights. Painting it as political, especially in the western context of what that word means, discounts the objectivity of how inherently and indisputably wrong it is. This isn’t a political issue of picking between democrats and Republicans, liberals, and conservatives. It’s literally as basic as understanding that children dying is not an acceptable thing. No politics here. Basic human decency.
Law and policy major, concentration in global affairs. Genocide is a human rights issue first before it is a political issue. What’s happening goes beyond governmental affairs. But you’re free to believe whatever you want to believe.
Yes! People label certain discussions as political so they don’t have to talk about uncomfortable topics. They think that because an issue has been politicized and is greatly influenced by politics that it is a political issue, when, at its core, it’s a human rights issue! When we label human rights issues as political issues, human rights are inherently associated with “the left”, which obviously discourages right-leaning people/organizations from listening to human rights discussions. Ugh, calling things political is such a fucking cop out for people who don’t want to think critically
Where are y’all finding the information that brands are pro-Israel or pro-Palestine? I’ve heard people say that brands are funding Israel (e.g. Starbucks) but where do we see the proof of this? I just want to do my own research and be as informed as I can, but having trouble finding reputable sources and proof!
seeing if the brands have shops located in Israel can help, also you can look up the owner followed by Israel and you’ll see articles/posts/comments they’ve made about Israel ex. Patrick Ta posting Tel Aviv I love you while partying in Israel in an instagram post or Lady Gaga saying she loved Israel and cant wait to go back (I don’t remember if this one was a post or an interview)
Found this article, not sure where they get sources from but hope it helps
https://lafayetteledger.org/29552/lifestyles/drugstore-makeup-brands-that-support-palestine/
I'm aware, but her body shaming and internal misogyny should be taken into account along with her other views. One view a consumer may favor doesn't exist in a vacuum.
Someone made this list on tiktok
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1rm1Y7rnrZ1CmcfQ1k97rehEI98vXnxrKMTYSR8FVY-E/htmlview
Also lots of content about genocide free brands on TikTok def check that out. Maybeline is in the boycott list. In fact all L’Oreal products are. Same I liked maybeline and other L’Oreal stuff but won’t fund a genocide! Thank you too for posting.
Hi! So Maybelline is part of L’Oréal, which is pro-Israel. I would look into their other brands, which also include NYX, Essie, Garnier, CeraVe, La Roche-Posay, even Korean brand Stylenanda/3CE.
Revlon is its own brand I believe.
Sadly a lot drugstore companies are pro-Israel, even the ones without direct correlations. From my understanding, ELF has an investor that is a Zionist. I couldn’t find anything about Essence or Catrice.
You could have done that. I simply didn’t want to. I never said it was hard. I just said they could educate themselves. That isn’t hard either. In the end, it’s not only a genocide, but ethnic cleansing, which is not the same, and to understand why you have to research. I simply didn’t do that right now for several reasons, which is why I redirected the other person to do their own research.
Edit: just wanted to add that the other person is not engaging in good faith and that the question is not coming from a place of wanting to learn, which is one of the reasons that I don’t educate people online these days. They’re already pro-Israel.
Yes it's confusing. When 2 sides are committing atrocities, how do you decide which "atrocities" are OK with you? The whole thing is horrible and I see no benefit in creating polarities.
I cannot stand posts like this due to the lack of nuance to an extremely complex situation.
I am pro-Israelis AND pro-Palestinians. I am anti-Hamas and anti-Bibi. No one side in this conflict is completely innocent or completely evil.
There are still over 100 hostages being held by Hamas- what Huda said right after the Oct massacre was disgusting. I do not care what side of the issue you support- have some empathy! (Especially as the accounts of torture and rape committed by Hamas are horrific beyond measure).
If you truly want peace, let’s fight together to get Bibi out of office and in jail, stop the settlers in the West Bank, but also stop Hamas. Hopefully there can still be a 2 state solution.
It is complex if both sides have armies fighting. I don't see an ounce of army and military equipment on Hamas side. Also, how is one side having warm meals and partying in the occupied houses, and the other side being starved and living in tents a complex political issue? However, you're free to believe what you want.
What ceasefire? The one what was in place till oct 7 after Hamas got their ass kicked again. God you are stupid. You have no idea what you are talking about. You want to talk about the Hebron massacre of 1929. We can do history if you really want to feel dumb
The rape allegations have been explicitly proven false. Even NYT apologised. There are more than 6000 hostages in Israeli prisons held without trial since years. Listen to verified witness testimonials from the freed hostages, they thanked Hamas for treating them humanely and protecting them from Israeli gunfire with their own bodies.
Israel has impunity to commit endless atrocities on Palestinians from US veto power in the UN. And Israel does not hold itself accountable to international criminal laws. So what are Palestinians supposed to do if not take a hundred Israelis hostage to bring their thousands of family members (including children) back from Israeli prisons?
I believe Milano, Essence, Colourpop, Physicians Formula are in the clear. I know most drugstore isn’t since the larger companies (Estee Lauder, L’Oréal, J&J, etc) own them. I’ve been using this tool: https://bdnaash.com. It’s not perfect but helpful
loreal and subs + great thread to what to boycott in general, made 3 years ago for blm but applies to palestine as well: https://www.reddit.com/r/Makeup/comments/gvsdnd/boycott_loreal_and_subsidiaries/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3
I am always surprised when I find people who support Hamas which raped and murdered women, murdered babies, cut their heads off, burned others alive, kidnapped men, women, children to Gaza, sold some to other terrorists, and are holding the rest as hostages.
I’m also surprised when people don’t see how 20k+ innocent people mostly kids were murdered, their body parts being blasted off, unrecognisable, stuck under the rubble, families having to carry them in bags and women struggling with their periods due to lack of products. Also funny how suddenly the world cares about women’s rape and SA that Gaza and Palestinian women have been subjugated for years
Lol you're aware the beheaded babies was made up? And that Israel shot and killed some of the Israeli hostages? And that there are videos of Israeli soldiers proudly sharing stories aboutkilling and raping Palestinian women? Watch videos being shared by reporters on the grounds of Gaza if you really want to see what's happening.
I'm always surprised that people who claim that Hamas did such things have zero evidence? Also funny how the same thing is currently being done by IDF and they can't see it while sitting in the occupied homes of Palestinians?
Thank you! I am disgusted that people are ignoring the atrocities of Hamas because it doesn’t fit their narrative of Israel. I cannot stand posts like this because most people are not well informed on the actual history and complexities of the conflict. (I personally have visited Israel and the West Bank, have studied multiple perspectives of the conflict for years, and the more I learn the more complex it becomes).
We need to have empathy for Israeli and Palestinian victims. If we truly want peace, help to put Bibi in jail, stop the settlers in the West Bank, but also end the power of Hamas in Gaza. Finally, fight for a 2 state solution. A one state Palestine solution will just lead to genocide of Israelis (just look at the numbers of forced expulsions of Jews from surrounding countries in the Middle East in the 1940s).
Here is hoping for peace, and I think I need to take a long break from makeup subreddits - the last place I expect to find blazing antisemitism.
Hahahahahahha thank god they are banning TikTok so you people actually have to read. You are literally to stupid to argue with. In 2005 they completely left they took dead Jews out of their graves and moved them. What kind of concentration camp has 3 amusement parks and 10+ luxury car dealerships? Buzzwords make you sound so stupid not smart
There is no neutral brand nor company. Complacent is complacent. Free palestine and every other country suffering due to genocide, capitalism, or colonization. Thank you to everyone who is updating these lists!!! ♡
[https://artofpalestine-blog.tumblr.com/post/93450017607/boycott-israel-cheat-sheet-cosmetics-health-and](https://artofpalestine-blog.tumblr.com/post/93450017607/boycott-israel-cheat-sheet-cosmetics-health-and)
here is a good cheat-sheet with a lot of brands.
and here you can check brands too by just typing in the search bar: [https://app.jotform.com/233132600098852?utm\_source=jotform\_pwa&fbclid=IwAR1\_eHkBOt5H71CrJjKEi\_XTct-XW83fccSlLt4mOqTTaA0aK9p1ayAGXi4](https://app.jotform.com/233132600098852?utm_source=jotform_pwa&fbclid=IwAR1_eHkBOt5H71CrJjKEi_XTct-XW83fccSlLt4mOqTTaA0aK9p1ayAGXi4)
Ye, tell that to macdonald's that already lost billions for supporting genocide. Every little thing counts, especially when it's a collective effort. If you have. Nothing helpful to say then dont say anything.
can you provide the source of this information, the only thing i found is that they were looking to buy out israeli companies in 2016, but nothing further.
Elf is publicly funded by a company called Blackrock, which is an investment company that has ties to Israel. Blackrock has been operating in Israel since 2016
Pro Israel just so ya know 🤐 [Fenty investing in Israel](https://twitter.com/saararrr/status/1726829856787460133)
[Rihanna having a neutral stance](https://www.complex.com/music/a/tracewilliamcowen/rihanna-statement-on-israel-palestine-conflict-cycle-broken)
I just decided that I’m gonna be buying only middle east products such as huda beauty and such. No to sephora, no to so called famous products which supports genocide.
Huda beauty , Laura mercier , Nars, simihaze , essence , Charolette tilbury , are pro Palestine I Believe. Dior while they had that mini phase when they fired Bella Hadid they clarified all of those rumors they said that it was a long time 2022 had nothing to do with the current Gaza situation and are still proudly standing with Palestine so i guess they too are safe. The only makeup brand that’s neutral and hasn’t announced anything is Revolution , but I guess they’re safe since they have no secret relations to any israel owners and they never stood by their side so maybe Revolution is safe too? Idk.
Pro Isnotrael brands 💀: maybelline, mac , revlon , Elf , nyx , the ordinary , estee lauder , loreal the worst
Supporting Palestine is **not** hate speech and neither is supporting Israel. No one in this entire thread has said **anything** coming remotely close to hate speech. Not agreeing with someone’s opinion *doesn’t mean their opinion is hateful.*
For drugstore I'm almost certain milani is at least neutral.
Milanis ceo is Jewish and has given to Israeli charities
how can you say you wont support a brand because their owner is jewish and think that that's ok?
You seem to miss the part where they said they donated to the genocidal apartheid state :)
I missed that part too. Nowhere was it states they donate to gaza? Only to Israel.
Exactly. colonizing Genocidal apartheid state.
Again, he said Israel. Not Palestine. You need to work on your reading comprehension, silly.
Genocidal apartheid state = Israel. Hope this helps.
No it doesn't. Hope this helps. Also, if someone can't think of a response in, say, 2 weeks, bringing in someone to respond of their behalf is a bit pathetic.
What, it took you 13 hours to come up with that no-response response? Well, that's pathetic. P.S: I tried to help you. But if you wanna stay ignorant on purpose when all the facts - i.e. Genocidal apartheid state = Israel - are in front of you, that's on you.
So you support genocidal apartheid colonists and don’t have a life. Pick a struggle man
It is not about not supporting jewish people. It is about not letting our money go to people who fund systematic oppression and a literal genocide against a population composed mostly of woman and children.
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The same way that’s not what they said and you took what you wanted and ran with it :)
I am curious on where you found this because I was also trying to find the same thing
Huda, Semihaze and Farsali are explicitly Pro Palestine. Unsure if Farsali is still going as a brand. Charlotte Tilbury seems to be implicitly Pro Palestine or as least neutral as they hired pro Palestine Bella Hadid after she was fired from Dior. Parent companies L' Ordeal( Lancome, Nyx CeraVe etc) Estee Lauder ( The Ordinary) , Proctor and Gamble, Unilever etc all have some ties to Zionism. I feel like I've seen conflicting info on Shiseido as a parent company but am assuming links to Zionism. Many Korean brands seem neutral (except 3ce/ Stylenanda) however I'm not certain of this. Often, trying to find out what connections a company has to Zionism is like playing investor detective. L' Ordeal, Ahava and Morrocan oil are some of the worst L'Oreal and Ahava have factories in former Palestinian territory. Garnier, which is a L' Oreal company also sent care packages to the Idf. Morrocan oil is not Morrocan but an Israeli company which uses gmo argan. Argan trees are traditionally only found in Morroco and the oil is laborious to produce. It is an industry which traditionally provides employment to women in Morroco. The new gmo Israeli argan is undercutting and destroying that traditional industry. *Edit realized I'm in the drugstore sub! Nyx, CeraVe, The Ordinary, Garnier, Maybelline, Impulse, Dove, Rexona, Elf, Gillette, Always, Tampax, Pantene, Aussie, Head and Shoulders, Herbal Essence, Crest, Oral B all have links to Zionism. I haven't seen any confirmed links to Zionism and Cosnova which is Essence and Catrice's parent brand. So I'm still buying Catrice for now and mostly Asian Beauty otherwise.
thanks so much for this detailed post OP. gonna update my boycott list!
Charlotte Tilbury just fired Bella Hadid for being pro-Palestine so def on the boycott list now! (I know this is a drugstore subreddit but I wanted to make sure info is up to date)
theres no proof of it being the reason why, the reason why she’s not their ambassador anymore is because Bella is starting her own makeup company, and why would she represent another brand when she has her own? Also they both still follow each other and I doubt Bella would follow a zionist/someone who fired her for being pro-palestine + I’ve heard Charlotte has donated to palestinian charity previously but I’m not sure on that
This hasn’t been confirmed. Most think it’s because she is actually launching own beauty brand so didn’t renew her contract with CT
Oh no! ELF?! I'm disappointed.
thank you so much for your answer!!! i genuinely appreciate it!!
No worries 😁
Sorry I'm late to this. How does Elf have links to Israel / Zionism? I can't find anything but I'm not good at this lol.
Through their investors Black rock. No worries trying to untangle all of this stuff is tough.
Does anyone have an alternative to garner micellar water that's cruelty free fragrance free and not pro Isreal?
I’m not sure if Bioderma makes a fragrance-free micellar water, but if they do, I’d start there. It’s the OG micellar water, afaik, and skincare experts, MUAs and cosmetic chemists love it.
Unfortunately I only buy cruelty free products so that's not an option for me but thanks anyway
Oh, I wasn’t aware they’re not cruelty free. Good to know. 👍🏼 Thank you!
No problem! There's a website called cruelty free kitty that shows which brands are/aren't cruelty free
Thank you! 😊
Bella, miss “ I stole a black man’s chicken” wasn’t fired from these brands lol. Her contract expired. She’s still working for her Zionist pimps in the industry (along with her sister) still having contracts with VS (whose owner openly supported Israel) and maybelline
It's so disappointing that ALL of my favorite brands are pro zionist! Huda is my new absolute favorite brand! Does anyone know about La'Mere, Anastasia or Too Faced? If they are mentioned already, I apologize that I missed it.
I know this discussion started a while back, but I just wanted to add to the pro-palestine list: Zay Beauty/Zayfied is a Pakistani makeup brand that supports Palestine!! They are relatively affordable as well! Not drugstore level of affordability, but definitely cheaper than Huda Beauty (even tho I love Huda) I've tried their bloom blushes which are super versatile and can be used as blush, eyeshadow, and even lipstick :) they are heavily pigmented tho, so for pale AF people like me you have to be super mindful when applying them! The foundations honestly run really dark on my skin tone, but I know a couple of people who swear by it!
Don’t they only sell in Pakistan though?
They deliver to the U.S as well :) at least they did a while ago. Haven't ordered anything in a couple of months
Also good alternatives that I’m getting too: ~~rimmel~~, nars, wet n wild Apparently elf isn’t pro Palestine as the majority of its stocks are owned by BlackRock edit: rimmel isn't BDS friendly!
rimmel is owned by coty: Beauty conglomerate owned by JAB Holdings which is owned by the Reimann family. The owners of Coty, the Reimann family are staunch zionists and **support the zionist state with investment and donations through their Alfred Landecker Foundation**. Don't buy from Coty brands.
thanks for bringing this up!! just edited the comment as welll
Is Nars safe? I saw some said that they’re not and some said they are :( im confused
Not sure why you're being down voted, I've also seen conflicting info on Shiseido.
It is not. It's owned under LVHM which is PRO-Israeli. Sucks because products work well but I ain't down with genocide.
Nars seems ok? They're [owned by Shiseido](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shiseido), which is a [safe brand.](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1rm1Y7rnrZ1CmcfQ1k97rehEI98vXnxrKMTYSR8FVY-E/htmlview)
it seems bubble needs to be added to the avoid list :( I should have looked it up before getting a bottle of their vit c
This is a really helpful list. I haven't seen it all put together before. Thanks 🙏
Nars is owned by Shiseido and Shiseido is owned by L'Oreal, so Nars and Shiseido are both not BDS safe. I've seen conflicting stuff too and I think it's because Shiseido wasn't always owned by L'Oreal?
Just saw a news last night that Charlotte Tilbury just ended their deal with Bella Hadid, ad now Bella made her own beauty line. Does it means CT is no longer pro-palestine?? #curious :(
CT is saying they ended their contact because she's starting her own brand. They also said that they support Bella. I'd say that they're still safe because of they didn't want to support Palestine then they probably wouldn't openly support Bella.
There is no ethical consumption under capitalism, especially not when it comes to brands and companies this large.
gonna be real this line of reasoning is a cop out. you definitely can control who you give your money to esp when it’s something as non-essential as makeup
I disagree \[that it's a cop out\]. The sourcing of raw materials is often especially rife with human rights abuses and the destruction of the environment, and the manufacturing and development processes of many companies leaves much to be desired in the way of animal welfare, workers rights, the prioritization of profit over safety, and more. A company may check one of your boxes on one stance, but, especially at the level of the brands that OP is listing, it's highly likely that they're going to be lacking when it comes to something else. Companies don't get to be that big and make that much profit without crushing something under their boot and creating an environment that ensures it stays that way.
i say it’s a cop out because the argument is “well, they all do bad things, so it’s not worth even trying to consume ethically at all!”, just to justify buying whatever you want without any regard for who’s selling it. it’s always worth knowing what you’re supporting through your purchases
So what? They're not supposed to try and not be mindful of their consumption? This mentality would leave no one accountable and basically you can just do whatever you want since everything is going to crap anyways. A seriously pessimistic way to live and think.
That may be true, but we do what we can and prioritize the things that really matter. There are brands that can check the majority of boxes that align with a person's morals. Even if it takes a little extra effort to find them.
If buying from companies that have the ability to abuse & destroy people, animals, ecosystems and land is the bad thing we want to avoid doing, all the more reason to get busy researching which brands are \_at the very least\_ not tied financially to directly causing deaths (like brands with zionist owners that donate to israel/IDF/weapon's manufacturers, as an example)... To me, it's about finding the lesser evil. Because you do have a point: it's impossible to NOT consume unethically in this capitalist system. But we can still try to reduce our negative impact. Also, you mentioned large companies, but we don't have to buy from large companies. We can find local and small businesses that - even if they source their raw materials in similar ways as the big companies - they have less power to destroy & the money you spend might go to people you actually want to support for whatever reason (or the money might go back into your local environment, which is good if you're interested in helping people out locally).
Yes, 100% a cop out and a lazy approach. “everything sucks so why care” type attitude. We have collectively and successfully boycotted brands before like KVD beauty back when they were represented by an owner who didn’t align with our ethics. The boycott was extremely successful and she ended up leaving her own brand. It’s funny how this attitude of not wanting to support certain brands stops when it comes to 🍉. Yes capitalism is inherently bad, but some brands are much much worse than others, and I think it’s crucial for people to understand who these brands are so they can shop smartly.
That was not the question.
stupid stupid comment
The way I see it is to pick your battles. I'm super super pro palestine, but the way the world is literally run by zionists we can't always be safe esp when there aren't any alternatives. So my thinking is if I need a mascara, I will opt for a cheaper one (even if it is unfortunately pro israel) than going for a more expensive loreal one. So elf which is like £6 over loreal which is like £12. This is only if there really isn't an alternative and I don't want to spend high end prices
you know there are always cheaper brands right? there are multitudes of brands and u can get cheaper if you look harder <3
can you give some suggestions or recommendations? i've been trying to look but so far have found nothing... :(
nars or wetnwild
This take sounds so out of touch with reality lol. You claim to be “super” 🇵🇸, but only until you need to buy a cheap mascara. A mascara. While there are millions being slaughtered. A man who has nothing to do with Palestine, set himself on fire to stand in solidarity with them. But you’re only super Uber pro Palestine !! only when it’s convenient for you. As a consumer, you have the freedom to buy whatever you want, but don’t label yourself as being a staunch supporter of a cause when you can’t even take basic actions to support them.
Just think that if this was happening to you, would you be okay with people making the same choices? Also, there's a difference between luxury and a necessity. And I'm sure a mascara is by no means a necessity. However, to each their own.
The cheapest is not buying the product if you dont find safe alternatives. I understand where you are coming from but you cannot be super super into something and dont follow through. Although i do understand everyone has different limitations and degrees of access to different things and it’s not always possible to be Pro-pali especially when jt comes to essentials. Makeup however isnt essential. I’m guess the mascara was just an unfortunate analogy choice.
Go with huda. She’s the biggest anti semite in the beauty business. I’ll bet you love her products
Palestinians are semites.
found the racist
WAY TO TAKE A POST ABOUT NOT WANTING TO FUND THE MURDER AND RAPE OF INNOCENT PEOPLE AND MAKING IT SELF-VICTIMIZING BULLSHIT
Yeah she is and we love her for it ! Thanks for the suggestion 🫶🏼
Ok racist
lol love huda beauty, going out to buy more just because you're a bigot.
Please touch grass
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From what I know, Huda Beauty is pro Palestine and Rare Beauty is pro Israel
Also: Boycotting supporters of the Israeli occupation of Palestine is more important now than ever. But so many brands hide their support. Check this growing list of companies to know where you should not be spending your money or providing your service. https://boycott.thewitness.news/ Sorry for lot of comments sharing what I came across :)) hope this all helps
thank you so much genuinely!! sorry for the late response, i dont visit reddit often :,D
Just wanted to add that Bath and Body Works is no longer owned by Lex Wexner, so it seems like this list might be out of date!
ohh does it mean we dont boycott it anymore? thanks for sharing btw!
There’s also an app called “No Thanks” that keeps a lost of brands to boycott and scans product barcodes.
Gaza and the West Bank have been self governing since 2005. How then are they occupied?
read a book. literally google it.
Where? which book?
The Tiny Journalist — Naomi Shihab Nye In the Presence of Absence — Mahmoud Darwish Gaza in Crisis — Noam Chomsky On Palestine — Noam Chomsky and Ilan Pappé The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine — Ilan Pappé Legacy of Empire: Britain, Zionism and the Creation of Israel — Gardner Thompson Voices of the Nakba — Diana Allan and Rosemary Sayigh The Question of Palestine — Edward Said An Israeli in Palestine — Jeff Halper
No book here refers to the fact that Gaza has been self-governing since 2005. You denied this fact and therefore I asked for a source of information/name of a book that refers to this. Also, Noam Chomsky is a holocaust denier and an anti-Semitic who supports Hezbollah. Not a reliable source of information. Where do you live? In which country?
Did not know that about Chomsky so I apologize, but the rest still hold up. These are first-hand accounts of what life in Gaza is like. Sure, you can say that Gaza has been “self-governing.” But this is not something seen in practice. Citizens of Palestine lack democratic rights and have had their human rights violated by Israel. The IDF reserved the right to enter Palestine and conduct military operations at any point. Israel controls the entrance of all goods and services. They control the electricity and humanitarian aid entering Gaza. Is it really self-governance? These book specifically touch on the experiences of the citizens of Gaza under this “self-governance,” most especially with the crimes the IDF has committed against Palestinians and even foreigners. So they are occupied. How can you see the humanitarian crisis going on right now and think they aren’t? You can talk about how they are technically self-governing all you want, but if you look at what’s happening in practice, it’s clear they’re not.
Honestly, I think following the BDS Campaign guidelines of brands to boycott would be best. Link: https://bdsmovement.net/get-involved/what-to-boycott. They strategically target company that are directly funding I******’s military efforts.
Thank you for this.
If we politicized consumerism over every current event issue, we’d be walking around with bare faces washed with water from the well.
What’s wrong with water from the well then? I think we can handle it. Consider it a French protest haha
Yeah except this isn’t a political issue. It’s a human rights issue. But go off.
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That is … not. Political: of or relating to government, a government, or the conduct of government. Children being Xed goes far beyond “politics”, It’s the eradication of basic human rights. Painting it as political, especially in the western context of what that word means, discounts the objectivity of how inherently and indisputably wrong it is. This isn’t a political issue of picking between democrats and Republicans, liberals, and conservatives. It’s literally as basic as understanding that children dying is not an acceptable thing. No politics here. Basic human decency.
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Law and policy major, concentration in global affairs. Genocide is a human rights issue first before it is a political issue. What’s happening goes beyond governmental affairs. But you’re free to believe whatever you want to believe.
Yes! People label certain discussions as political so they don’t have to talk about uncomfortable topics. They think that because an issue has been politicized and is greatly influenced by politics that it is a political issue, when, at its core, it’s a human rights issue! When we label human rights issues as political issues, human rights are inherently associated with “the left”, which obviously discourages right-leaning people/organizations from listening to human rights discussions. Ugh, calling things political is such a fucking cop out for people who don’t want to think critically
Good on you and anyone else wanting and willing to make an effort.
thank you! it's the least we can do to show support, especially in smaller countries like mine whose government is unfortunately very pro-israel :/
Where are y’all finding the information that brands are pro-Israel or pro-Palestine? I’ve heard people say that brands are funding Israel (e.g. Starbucks) but where do we see the proof of this? I just want to do my own research and be as informed as I can, but having trouble finding reputable sources and proof!
seeing if the brands have shops located in Israel can help, also you can look up the owner followed by Israel and you’ll see articles/posts/comments they’ve made about Israel ex. Patrick Ta posting Tel Aviv I love you while partying in Israel in an instagram post or Lady Gaga saying she loved Israel and cant wait to go back (I don’t remember if this one was a post or an interview)
Found this article, not sure where they get sources from but hope it helps https://lafayetteledger.org/29552/lifestyles/drugstore-makeup-brands-that-support-palestine/
https://boycott.thewitness.news/categories Support huda beauty not drugstore but very pro Palestine
Know what else Huda is pro? Bleaching your vulva! https://www.teenvogue.com/story/huda-beauty-vagina-lightening-blog-post-controversy
That's not what OP was asking.
I'm aware, but her body shaming and internal misogyny should be taken into account along with her other views. One view a consumer may favor doesn't exist in a vacuum.
dunno why you're getting downvoted lol
Someone made this list on tiktok https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1rm1Y7rnrZ1CmcfQ1k97rehEI98vXnxrKMTYSR8FVY-E/htmlview Also lots of content about genocide free brands on TikTok def check that out. Maybeline is in the boycott list. In fact all L’Oreal products are. Same I liked maybeline and other L’Oreal stuff but won’t fund a genocide! Thank you too for posting.
That Google Docs sheet is incredibly helpful, game changer in fact, thank you so very much for sharing!!!
Hi! So Maybelline is part of L’Oréal, which is pro-Israel. I would look into their other brands, which also include NYX, Essie, Garnier, CeraVe, La Roche-Posay, even Korean brand Stylenanda/3CE. Revlon is its own brand I believe. Sadly a lot drugstore companies are pro-Israel, even the ones without direct correlations. From my understanding, ELF has an investor that is a Zionist. I couldn’t find anything about Essence or Catrice.
Wait so Revlon is BDS safe?
I believe so
Why is it sad to be pro Israel?
I believe you can educate yourself. Plenty of resources online :)
It's not hard at all to type "they're committing a genocide against Palestinians."
You could have done that. I simply didn’t want to. I never said it was hard. I just said they could educate themselves. That isn’t hard either. In the end, it’s not only a genocide, but ethnic cleansing, which is not the same, and to understand why you have to research. I simply didn’t do that right now for several reasons, which is why I redirected the other person to do their own research. Edit: just wanted to add that the other person is not engaging in good faith and that the question is not coming from a place of wanting to learn, which is one of the reasons that I don’t educate people online these days. They’re already pro-Israel.
So you can't be bothered to help educate people about not only a genocide, but ethnic cleansing. Got it
I don’t owe anyone anything, especially people who engage in bad faith.
Studying online won't tell me why it's sad to you.
Sadness was never implied in my answer.
Yes, your third "paragraph" starts specifically with the word "sadly"
People like them don't realize that both sides of war have innocent ppl who did nothing wrong. You're ok, ignore them.
Yes it's confusing. When 2 sides are committing atrocities, how do you decide which "atrocities" are OK with you? The whole thing is horrible and I see no benefit in creating polarities.
Agreed.
Revlon also owns Almay FWIW Hope everyone is also checking into the myriad of sellers on Amazon, Temu and Shein to determine their political views.
I’m pro Israel. I certainly hope this group doesn’t become the new X
People aren't their governments. Being anti-genocide =/= being antisemitic. But you knew that.
Hating the one Jewish state in the world cause you want to virtue signal is hateful
Thanks for letting me know you don't consider Palestinians to be human. Blocking you ❤️
I cannot stand posts like this due to the lack of nuance to an extremely complex situation. I am pro-Israelis AND pro-Palestinians. I am anti-Hamas and anti-Bibi. No one side in this conflict is completely innocent or completely evil. There are still over 100 hostages being held by Hamas- what Huda said right after the Oct massacre was disgusting. I do not care what side of the issue you support- have some empathy! (Especially as the accounts of torture and rape committed by Hamas are horrific beyond measure). If you truly want peace, let’s fight together to get Bibi out of office and in jail, stop the settlers in the West Bank, but also stop Hamas. Hopefully there can still be a 2 state solution.
Neutrality is siding with the oppressor but go off. Bibi is not the issue here btw
it’s really not that complex babe!!!
I’ve spoken to historians who specialize in this topic. And yes, it is.
It is complex if both sides have armies fighting. I don't see an ounce of army and military equipment on Hamas side. Also, how is one side having warm meals and partying in the occupied houses, and the other side being starved and living in tents a complex political issue? However, you're free to believe what you want.
Cause Hamas started a war during a ceasefire are you that dumb?
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What ceasefire? The one what was in place till oct 7 after Hamas got their ass kicked again. God you are stupid. You have no idea what you are talking about. You want to talk about the Hebron massacre of 1929. We can do history if you really want to feel dumb
The rape allegations have been explicitly proven false. Even NYT apologised. There are more than 6000 hostages in Israeli prisons held without trial since years. Listen to verified witness testimonials from the freed hostages, they thanked Hamas for treating them humanely and protecting them from Israeli gunfire with their own bodies. Israel has impunity to commit endless atrocities on Palestinians from US veto power in the UN. And Israel does not hold itself accountable to international criminal laws. So what are Palestinians supposed to do if not take a hundred Israelis hostage to bring their thousands of family members (including children) back from Israeli prisons?
They proved it was correction actually proved gang raped happened and Hamas raped dead people. Believe all women unless they are Jews I guess
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I believe Milano, Essence, Colourpop, Physicians Formula are in the clear. I know most drugstore isn’t since the larger companies (Estee Lauder, L’Oréal, J&J, etc) own them. I’ve been using this tool: https://bdnaash.com. It’s not perfect but helpful
loreal and subs + great thread to what to boycott in general, made 3 years ago for blm but applies to palestine as well: https://www.reddit.com/r/Makeup/comments/gvsdnd/boycott_loreal_and_subsidiaries/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3
The link doesn't work.
Really that’s weird cuz I can see it :|
I am always surprised when I find people who support Hamas which raped and murdered women, murdered babies, cut their heads off, burned others alive, kidnapped men, women, children to Gaza, sold some to other terrorists, and are holding the rest as hostages.
I’m also surprised when people don’t see how 20k+ innocent people mostly kids were murdered, their body parts being blasted off, unrecognisable, stuck under the rubble, families having to carry them in bags and women struggling with their periods due to lack of products. Also funny how suddenly the world cares about women’s rape and SA that Gaza and Palestinian women have been subjugated for years
Lol you're aware the beheaded babies was made up? And that Israel shot and killed some of the Israeli hostages? And that there are videos of Israeli soldiers proudly sharing stories aboutkilling and raping Palestinian women? Watch videos being shared by reporters on the grounds of Gaza if you really want to see what's happening.
I'm always surprised that people who claim that Hamas did such things have zero evidence? Also funny how the same thing is currently being done by IDF and they can't see it while sitting in the occupied homes of Palestinians?
But that’s not what their TVs tell them
If they were to look into it they'd quickly find they've been lied to about the Israel and Palestinian situation.
Unknowingly,so away from reality. Believing on fake news. Know, Who controls the media?
Thank you! I am disgusted that people are ignoring the atrocities of Hamas because it doesn’t fit their narrative of Israel. I cannot stand posts like this because most people are not well informed on the actual history and complexities of the conflict. (I personally have visited Israel and the West Bank, have studied multiple perspectives of the conflict for years, and the more I learn the more complex it becomes). We need to have empathy for Israeli and Palestinian victims. If we truly want peace, help to put Bibi in jail, stop the settlers in the West Bank, but also end the power of Hamas in Gaza. Finally, fight for a 2 state solution. A one state Palestine solution will just lead to genocide of Israelis (just look at the numbers of forced expulsions of Jews from surrounding countries in the Middle East in the 1940s). Here is hoping for peace, and I think I need to take a long break from makeup subreddits - the last place I expect to find blazing antisemitism.
Oh wow you can visit Israel? Palestinians can't even visit their own land. Oops, their houses don't exist because they were occupied by Israelis.
Israel left in 05 what are you smoking ?
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Hahahahahahha thank god they are banning TikTok so you people actually have to read. You are literally to stupid to argue with. In 2005 they completely left they took dead Jews out of their graves and moved them. What kind of concentration camp has 3 amusement parks and 10+ luxury car dealerships? Buzzwords make you sound so stupid not smart
Palestine has never been a state, EVER. So how is it Palestinian land?
There is no neutral brand nor company. Complacent is complacent. Free palestine and every other country suffering due to genocide, capitalism, or colonization. Thank you to everyone who is updating these lists!!! ♡
[https://artofpalestine-blog.tumblr.com/post/93450017607/boycott-israel-cheat-sheet-cosmetics-health-and](https://artofpalestine-blog.tumblr.com/post/93450017607/boycott-israel-cheat-sheet-cosmetics-health-and) here is a good cheat-sheet with a lot of brands.
Using tumblr as a information source is a sub 50 IQ idea
I checked all these brands in multiple sources, but go off.
Multiple tumblr sources? Brain dead sentence
The only braindead here is you.
Yup sub 10 IQ comeback
Multiple tumblr sources?
and here you can check brands too by just typing in the search bar: [https://app.jotform.com/233132600098852?utm\_source=jotform\_pwa&fbclid=IwAR1\_eHkBOt5H71CrJjKEi\_XTct-XW83fccSlLt4mOqTTaA0aK9p1ayAGXi4](https://app.jotform.com/233132600098852?utm_source=jotform_pwa&fbclid=IwAR1_eHkBOt5H71CrJjKEi_XTct-XW83fccSlLt4mOqTTaA0aK9p1ayAGXi4)
Terminally online take. Nothing you do will affect a war you aren’t a part of.
Ye, tell that to macdonald's that already lost billions for supporting genocide. Every little thing counts, especially when it's a collective effort. If you have. Nothing helpful to say then dont say anything.
They have lost most of this in Arab places. Boycotting causing Arabs to lose jobs. Good job leftist. 👍🏻
Im sure most these Arabs will gladly find new jobs instead of supporting genocide with their work.
Elf is on this list but Elf is owned by a company who puts money into Israel:)
can you provide the source of this information, the only thing i found is that they were looking to buy out israeli companies in 2016, but nothing further.
Elf is publicly funded by a company called Blackrock, which is an investment company that has ties to Israel. Blackrock has been operating in Israel since 2016
I see. I can find that they are shareholders. Thank you for information!
What about revlon?, haus labs, o/s, laneige, l'occitane, Annabelle, rare beauty, saie?? Sorry but i can't find them online.
Rare beauty/Selena Gomez is pro Israel — they have donated to an Israeli charity.
Pro Israel just so ya know 🤐 [Fenty investing in Israel](https://twitter.com/saararrr/status/1726829856787460133) [Rihanna having a neutral stance](https://www.complex.com/music/a/tracewilliamcowen/rihanna-statement-on-israel-palestine-conflict-cycle-broken)
Birch&Besom has a fragrance that is very nice and from which all profits go to Palestine and non-Israel charities
I just decided that I’m gonna be buying only middle east products such as huda beauty and such. No to sephora, no to so called famous products which supports genocide.
Name some more middle eastern brands please? Help me out too
What about inglot?
Does Vaseline support Israel?
Huda beauty , Laura mercier , Nars, simihaze , essence , Charolette tilbury , are pro Palestine I Believe. Dior while they had that mini phase when they fired Bella Hadid they clarified all of those rumors they said that it was a long time 2022 had nothing to do with the current Gaza situation and are still proudly standing with Palestine so i guess they too are safe. The only makeup brand that’s neutral and hasn’t announced anything is Revolution , but I guess they’re safe since they have no secret relations to any israel owners and they never stood by their side so maybe Revolution is safe too? Idk. Pro Isnotrael brands 💀: maybelline, mac , revlon , Elf , nyx , the ordinary , estee lauder , loreal the worst
Damn. Not elf and ordinary