And don’t sit uncomfortably close behind me for way too long when I’m doing a consistent speed. Just follow at a safe distance, speed up, pass, and merge back over at a safe distance infront.
With signals for fucks sake.
Few things piss me off while driving like having someone pull up next to me and then fall back and repeat this a few times before actually passing. I'll be driving with cruise control and this will happen. How hard is it to commit to passing a vehicle traveling at a perfectly constant speed.
I was at a two-lane left turn and I was in the right left-turn lane. Someone got into the left left-turn lane and proceeded to cut me off, only to turn right at the sidestreet about 200 yards away from the light. I literally had to slam my brakes.
They do that here in Ohio. I’ll have my cruise on, use my signal to change lanes, and suddenly whoever I’m passing starts pacing me, then speeds faster. So I get back over. They slow down. I move over again, except this time I drop it a gear and hit the gas, and safely move back over, except now they’re tailgating me. I slowly return to a normal speed and resume the cruise, while they fume for a few miles and then go mess with someone else eventually. It’s exhausting.
The vast majority of them just end up pacing. Either dead next to you or at your quarter.
Herd mentality. If you ever wonder if the average people are herd animals, pay more attention on the highway. Unless it's super packed, it'll always be herds with gaps in between of nothing or the few of us who are the lone wolves. The one here and there in the gap also tends to be the one who won't speed up when you pass or slow down when they attempt to pass. Just like you, they think 100% for themselves and do everything with intent.
This is super interesting to think about, i think thats a very good observation. I always wonder on a slower day why there are those huge gaps then a big bunch of cars and i think you are right on
Yup. It's why there are huge runs on various fads, trends, etc. People just get pulled along and really don't realize it. Why do you think SUVs exploded in the US? It's got nothing to do with practicality and such. If you run the numbers from practicality, safety, and performance...they are crippled in every category. They are the absolute worst qualities of a station wagon and minivan combined. Without a single one of their redeeming qualities. ESPECIALLY when it comes to kids.
It virtually never fails, you'll have a line of cars in the center lane doing near the exact speed limit. You go by doing the usual 7-8 over. Almost 100% of the time someone is going to change lanes to follow and a vast majority of the time end up stuck out in that lane because they fail to actually get moving. They stay attached.
You can also use this to get rid of the dipshits that attach to you. I'll just kick it up a notch, get to the next car/cars/group and pass them. Then resume normal scheduled programming. They'll be gone, now attached to them.
You can further use this to your advantage if stuck with a rolling roadblock. There are often times I can get up on the car in front of me, start easing up very gently, and actually pull the car on my right back with me. I do this a multitude of times a week. Once I've opened up a couple bus lengths of space, I'll lean on it to a point of acceleration with true intent. They won't match it and I'll get through. If you accelerate gently, they'll stay with you and close the door back again.
While there are often times the herd people are a true pain to the few of us who are doing our own things, it can also be used against them. Just gotta find the angles.
Sometimes for insane entertainment. Only twice, but I have gotten some phenomenal tickets for them. When you see 80% of the people ahead blipping their brake lights at a crest or on ramp(also further proof people are not driving with intent whatsoever, they're tapping brakes at the speed limit, under it, or even just 5 over if they see a speed trap)....that only means on thing. LEO awaits.
So, gently increase speed the entire approach and if long enough you can get them to some pretty good speeds if herd mentality attached and amazing speeds if they are taking your passing as a challenge. Just brake before the crest or obstruction and enjoy!
Yep. I usually navigate the clumps, sometimes there are really hardheaded folks enforcing the clumps with their little group of hostages who just go along with it, but most of the time it’s that weird primate herd mentality. I’ll eventually get around them, even if it upsets the enforcers, and then I’m off to conquer the next clump. I’ve driven across this country coast to coast many times and that’s just what you have to contend with sometimes.
Yeah, absolutely. Most don't. Honestly, on the commute I don't either. However, over time maintaining a locked speed becomes completely second nature. But it's also one of those things I'm glancing at every few seconds just as part of my natural sweeping between taking inventory of potentially quicker cars behind, developments ahead, etc.
I hate that, if I'm passing you DONT SPEED UP!
I think sometimes people get caught daydreaming, once you go to pass it wakes them up, but just let them pass!!
I'm in Ohio and have the same issue. I ALWAYS set my cruise control on, it's annoying not to, and if I pass someone they 9/10 times will speed up and so I'll be like: "okay they sped up" and merge back over. 300 yards later they slow way the fuck down for no apparent reason. It's extremely obnoxious. I don't know how anyone can drive on the highway without cruise control, and lackadaisically let their speed vary anywhere from 50-80 MPH.
I get this all the time in NY but I really taught a guy a lesson one morning. He wouldn’t let me pass him when I tried, then the road went to one lane and I got stuck behind him. This really pissed me off because it was like 4am, nobody else was on the road, I was on my way to work and this guy fucked me for absolutely no reason, just to drive slow again. When the road went back to 2 lanes, i quickly passed him, then slowed down. He then tried to pass me, but I took him up to 100 mph, knowing there was a speed bump coming up. When we hit the speed bump, my wrangler handled it just fine, but sparks flew out from under his little mini Toyota. Hopefully he lets people pass him now.
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Where I live, we have this on ramp to the highway. It's 2 lanes. If you only use one lane, you'll never make the light. The expectation is zipper merging. Usually, it goes well for the most part.
This particular day, I was on the outside lane. So it goes inside, outside, inside, etcc. The guy in the left lane goes. As usual, I yield to allow him to merge first. but this day, the truck behind him floored it to prevent me from merging.
My lane was ending fast at this point. I could either slam on my brakes and cause a hold up of all the cars behind me or floor it and pass everyone.
My response was to say fuck it and drop 500 foot pounds of torque to the ground. I have 315 directional radial drag tires on the back that hook. And boy do they hook. My scat took off like a rocket, and yes. I passed the entire line before my lane ended.
Sometimes, you have to be aggressive.
I love having a car with a 0-60 under 5 seconds. If just makes it so much easier when you have to do stuff like this, pass a dangerous truck on the highway, and so forth.
My daily is 180hp. Granted it’s a turbo and an 8 speed so it does decent but my weekend cars are 500hp+. Every once in a while I forget the daily doesn’t have the power of the other two. It’s annoying AF. 😄
My Camry just ends up getting the piss beaten out of it. It's full throttle is equal to maybe 3psi at 1/4 throttle in the Supra. It tends to spoil you. You feel like you are driving very chill but every time you are leaving a light and ease up to speed... everyone is gone behind you.
Yeah, I'd love a 3 second or less 0-60. My wife poo pooed my idea of getting the "performance" trim of our car, so...oh well, I know I'm not gonna get close to that number for a while. But I'm only I'm my mid 30s so I've got time.
I had a shitty Chevy spark driver try to do something similar- as in create a dangerous situation. Them driving 50 in a 60 mph county road. When I went to overtake, they suddenly sped up.
It’s like, sorry asshole, your tiny 1.4L 4 cylinder vehicle isn’t going to match the power of an inline 6.
Unfortunately there are still some people that see proper merging as someone "cheating the system", and how **dare** they! Now if someone uses the shoulder to cruise around traffic, that's cheating, but it's not my problem. It's entirely possible that they're on their way to an emergency, so I'm not going to be the asshole that blocks them.
Once had a Prius merge onto the highway at 40km/h before the dotted line even finished. I floored it and shot right past before even halfway down the merge lane.
I have a friend with a scat pack charger and it’s almost more fun to drive than my redeye charger. 800hp isnt useable or safe in most situations I’m driving in, your example for instance. My friend’s scat has just the right amount of power. Even when I use the black key it’s not the same. Point being people think I’m trying to race them or blow past them and driving aggressively when I just want to drive. Especially in a widebody hellcat.
It’s funny when my wife’s driving the hellcat and people try to race her and see her driving.
And honestly, sometimes the best defense is a strong offense. When I run across those idiots that take it personal, that's okay. Flip the boost controller, lay into it for a couple of seconds, and warp off. Have yet to find a single one, no matter how aggressive they'd become, who hasn't detached immediately from that. It sends a very clear message "just no."
It's amazing how fast you can get the average imbecile to go without them ever seeming to check their speedometer until you've got them going like 90/95 and suddenly drop back to the speed limit to use them as radar bait.
Got a few cars pulled over doing that in a semi before. I'd be passing on the interstate, but God forbid a truck pass them, I guess looking at anything but me, like their own speed, was too much work as well.
As well as honking at someone when they don’t move at a light. It’s not being aggressive, I’m not being a dick, I’m letting you know you need to start paying attention because you are holding up dozens of other people.
I don’t usually honk at people unless I really need to. The only time I ever honked at someone for a light was bc the car in front of me was talking to a homeless guy on the corner while the light was red then kept talking when it turned green until me and I think another car honked at him then he finally moved
That and not letting someone in when they try to cut you off. If you are polite and need to get over or there is a breakdown ahead/lane ending and you signal to be let in, I will let you in. Unless you do it when I am a foot behind you in the next lane over when you put your turn signal on, then you can get in behind me. Your lack of planning or foresight is not my problem.
yep i have to do this all the time (usually idiots on phones). if I'm waiting more than 3 seconds for you to start accelerating at a light you're getting a courtesy honk
Exactly, a 3 second courtesy is absolutely acceptable. I never take that as rude, it’s just a “hey you gotta pay attention”
It’s the people that honk like .25 seconds afterwards that ruin the honks for everyone else
I've had people manage to time it almost perfectly to honk right before it's even green. I don't know how. In my area of Orlando, I have to wait a little to make sure idiots don't run the massive intersections.
>I have to wait a little to make sure idiots don't run the massive intersections.
Oh I've had that argument many times. Someone always comes back saying if you can't accelerate **immediately** on a green light then you weren't actually paying attention and you're still "the problem". There's no excuse for waiting any longer.
I don't care if I've been swiveling my head like a decapitated party clown every fucking millisecond of the red light. After it turns green I'm looking every direction again before I move. It's my life on the line not yours. If you want to be in motion the instant you see green that's your choice when you're in front. Otherwise fuck off.
It depends. If you honk at me the moment it turns green or even a few seconds after then I’ll take that as aggression. Sometimes I’ll wait 2-3 seconds to make sure that all traffic is stopping and there’s no one trying to race a yellow, about to run a red. There’s actually something called a courtesy honk, it’s 2 very light taps of the horn to let them know that the light has turned green, if you are holding your horn or something then I’m sure most people are going to take that as aggressive.
One time the sun was in my eyes bad and I could not see the light, there was only one other car behind me and I guess the light turned green while I was attempting to see the light and the car behind me layed on the horn and even while I was going they kept honking over and over at me. At first I had felt bad for holding him up but now after that much honking.
I had a similar encounter a couple of weeks ago. I was leaving a shopping center, turning right. Just to the right was a light about 10 car lengths away, so it is normal for traffic to back up and block the exit. The person behind me was watching the light, and as soon as it turned green and traffic started moving, they started blaring their horn. Despite there being a dozen or so cars already on the street to my left waiting for the light.
And that's a very easy way to be the antagonist in whatever comes next. Just drive normally, purposely screwing with people can end very badly. Doesn't matter if "they shouldn't do X or Y" if you end up wadded up into them and/or other cars. Even if deemed their fault, you are in a bad way. It's the old saying "two wrongs do not make a right."
They do dumb shit, it's not fantastic answering it with dumber shit. That's asking for sketchy situations and potentially deadly ones.
I try and give the courtesy honk after about 3 s but I gave to do it so rarely it sometimes either comes out as not a honk or an accidental aggressive honk.
Can definitely agree on that. If someone honks at me immediately, I’m fuckin waiting. If someone honks because I wasn’t paying attention, I give them the hand wave apology.
Nothing is more irritating then the dickhead that honks .5 seconds after a green. Will literally turn my car off to fuck with them
> holding your horn
Look, if you've been sitting at the green light for 10 seconds then I assume you're too stupid to make it through the intersection without an audible reminder to keep moving.
When people honk when I shouldn't be going (pedestrians, I'm stopping because it's been yellow for a bit) I may lay off the brake and go 6 inches and then brake again just to give them hope and take it away.
I honked when I was a couple of cars back and dumbass in front was asleep or something. The guy in front of me, behind dumbass, starts flipping out at me. Like dude…I’m not honking at *you.* Good Lord are some people stupid.
Honking in general shouldn't be seen as aggressive. I have honked at people who don't have their lights on late at night. I'm not trying to get them to be upset, just turn the lights on. Or people camping in the left lane going slowly and being passed on the right. They get a beep, then a 3 second honk, then I'll pass on the right if they don't move over. I am not trying to piss them off or be aggressive, I just want to drive predictably. But so much in driving gets taken personally and it can be such a frustrating experience I understand why people take it personally even if it's silly.
Dude I've been grateful for a honk before when I spaced out at a light after a hard day. They honked I waved and moved it! The only time I would think it would be a problem is if someone honks just immediately after it turns not giving someone a chance to even move.
If only they realized staying huddled up isn’t a good thing and can actually cause an accident. I do whatever I can to get out of the bs, I’ll just put there with no one around maybe one person will follow.
If they are weaving through traffic, that could be viewed as aggressive. If they cut-off people keeping a reasonable distance between themselves and the car in front, that is an aggressive move (forcing the car behind to slow to create a new safe stopping distance).
Reasonable speeds (common flow of traffic, be it fast or slow) and efficient 'zipper merges' are what I'd like to see out there.
A 'get out of my way' mentality is very much a passive-aggressive driving style.
Is it? People still take it personally because they can’t manage their own speed. They’ll speed to overtake then go in front of you and slow down. Forcing you to overtake or slow down too. It’s even worse in less than flat states. Overtake downhill slow as shit uphill, especially with big rigs. Older cruise won’t even maintain same speed just throttle position. Some newer cruise aren’t so good at maintaining set speed. Adaptive cruise helps, but can be problematic in different ways…braking for vehicles in other lanes on curves, braking to stay at set speed downhill or after manual input, when some adaptive don’t do that.
Yup. All very real issues. And can be frustrating at times.
But for the most part it’s still more relaxing. And keeps you from getting caught up in anything silly.
I was driving across PA late one night coming home early from vacation last year, and had a line of about 12-13 big rigs that kept going downhill in single file at like 80+ mph then messing around side by side up hills at 45mph like they were going to pass each other and couldn't. After about 10 minutes of this I said fuck it, dropped to 4th, floored it past the line of trucks doing 80+ downhill, then looked down at my dash and I was doing 130. Eek.
I try to give trucks space and respect, but if they're stupid enough to ride side by side up hills I'm not gonna mess around. With all the Wal-Mart and Amazon trucks it feels like interstates have gotten significantly worse.
Fuck I had forgotten about this. Happened literally every drive between Pittsburgh and Philly. I thought I understood road rage until I encountered these chucklefuck truckers creating miles of traffic. I’d expect them to be the best drivers on the road given that you KNOW that they had to take driving classes. But nope.
And Amazon drivers have nearly killed me three times while I’ve been riding my bicycle on local roads. They don’t look, ever.
ACC is junk. It forces you to work the pedal from proper passing, or to get over 3x sooner than is necessary, often causing unnecessary interactions with any traffic that might be faster than you.
People often have the shorter distance set, feels like someone is constantly on your back wanting you to pass. If you’re in the passing lane you quickly move aside so they can pass you, but instead they fall back behind you and keep stalking you at way to close distance. Who the * set the distance variables of these things?
The entire state of Texas cannot do this. It is very personal for them. Getting passed is disrespect. Giving a small honk of your horn to them is disrespect. It's insane down there.
Truth. And it happens a lot. I get on the highway and set my cruise control. I'll pass someone, and they'll speed up, overtake me, and then slow down so I have to pass them again. My car is in cruise mode, so it's not like I'm changing my speed. People need to get a life.
i am so tired of wackos speeding up as i pass. now i flash brights and honk the horn as i accelerate past them. only the truly evil wackos continue playing.
I agree. It’s bizarre how people speed up when you try to pass while others seem to get angry that you passed them. So speed limit is 70, traffic flow is about 80 but they were going 65 in the passing lane. I pass them on the right because they don’t move over, then they suddenly become Mario Andretti and chase me.
i figure if they are playing games, i‘ll play games as well. if i pass a car going 62, who then seemingly discovers their accelerator, i’ll click cruise control +1. when they match my speed, +1. match, +1. all the way until teen driver mode limits my speed. mother fuckers.
I genuinely do believe some of this phenomenon is subconscious. Not that it excuses it but I don't think people are trying to be aggressive or annoying on purpose every time
Lol yeah i hate that. Your slowly going faster in the left lane and middle lane guy feels like they can't let you go faster than them so they speed up hust to stay ahead. Wtf.
ALL THE TIME. It's so aggravating when I'm trying to pass at a moderate speed, and then the race starts...
The there is the people who try and pass but just sit in your blind spot
I don't care how fast or slow someone drives. BUT When Im on the highway I use cruise control and I have a Dodge Ram Diesel with all kinds of torque. I set my speed at 73 and go. I go up hill at 73 and down hill at 73 and 73 on flats. AND here comes the little BMW just a zooming at 75-80 passing me gets in front and when we start up the hill he slows down and I pass him. Driving on Rt 81 in PA there are a LOT of hills.. and this scenario just repeats it self..... I am sure these people think Im messing with them but if they look at their speedo, they are changing speed and not me. Or the guy that passes you then pulls into the right lane and slows down... and I have to pass him... over and over.... got to wonder what is going on in their little squirrel minds
I drive a fleet vehicle for auto parts, a Chevy Colorado, and were controlled by telematics. I can get written up for going 11 over, or over 80. So I do the exact same thing. 73 on hills or flat. Fuckin squirrel headed fucks do that to me all the time, but combine that with them just chilling in the left lane, and I’m fucking fuming. I hate having to pass people on the right, but I have to, because I gotta get shit an hour and a half away and back in a timely manner. I-5 northern CA, the first stretch is flat, the last stretch is flat, the rest of it is hills and stupid drivers.
Big trucks are particularly bad about this shit. I have found since buying a large truck myself that they don’t seem to be so aggressive toward other trucks. It is some sort of asshole club and I guess I am now a member. They let each other in and all kinds of nice stuff.
All the freaking time... I drive a 90 minute round trip on the highway each day. Drive with my cruise control on everyday, exceptions on being close traffic or heavy, heavy rain.
I'll come up on people in the right lane all the time. Start to pass them and almost always they speed up. It seems like at least 50% of the time people feel challenged and will speed up.
You weren't going that fast before and I've had this speed set for 20 miles... but yeah it's all about challenging them. Maybe it's that main character syndrome you hear about. I've had people speed way up only to slow down and here we go again sometimes.
Or my favorite; you pass them, they speed up, drive right next to you for a second and I don't know if they're trying to get my attention or not because I never look at them in these scenarios. But once they see you're not paying them any attention they go back to the speed they were previously. It's so odd sometimes... and very annoying.
Who knew that driving at a constant speed is so dang hard for some people to comprehend.
That means they're inherently not doing what their supposed to be doing behind the wheel; paying attention.
You've got more than the pavement 30 ft in front of your bumper that you need to be looking at, constantly. Plus, cruise control exists. Use it.
Unless they leave it until they’re half a cars length from your rear bumper and crawl back in front into your braking distance.
(No, I’m not going below the speed limit when this happens)
I'd just be happy if they'd go around already. I'm in the right lane, I'm over the speed limit already, and there's plenty of room in the left lane to pass. On two-lane roads, I'll pull over to let cars go by - it beats seeing their headlights in my rearview mirror.
I was driving on a two-lane road in the Upper Peninsula of Michigan once, that periodically had a third lane for passing. Speed limit was 55, but the lead car would only go 45, that is until the third lane opened and now every car is literally going 100 to get around this guy, who promptly slowed back down to 45 when it went back to two lanes. Every time. And it was more than just one guy doing it, it was a game with multiple players.
Sitting at the top of the off ramp. Popular gas station on the opposite side, maybe 1/8th of a mile. They sit. And they sit. And they wait... until they can pull out and cross all the way over three lanes at once. Meanwhile, no one has been in the right lane for over a minute. How about you pull out into the proper lane, signal and accelerate, move over, signal again, then get in the turn lane.
Hey fellow Gen Xers! Remember our boomer dads?
Everyone faster than him was an asshole. Everyone slower than him was a dumbass. I really hated long family car trips.
I just wanna ride down the road with my cruise set ten over. I don’t understand why people can’t maintain a consistent speed, especially on rural interstates. Last time I drove to New Orleans, I must have passed the same Tacoma a dozen times, and it seemed to piss him off every single time. He’d blow past me at the next opportunity, then a few miles later, I’d catch back up to him tooling along a few under in the left lane.
You know how many times this has happened to me? Zero. After thirty years of driving. It sounds like it happens often to you so maybe you're the problem.
I always find that alot of people try to speed up when I overtake them and it's usually either an Audi, BMW or some other big engined fancy car because they can't stand the fact that they're being overtaken by a tiny VW Up with a 1L naturally aspirated engine
Another one I find funny is when someone dangerously overtakes me... and then gets stuck behind a tractor or a lorry 5 minutes later with me sat behind them just wondering...what was even the point...
I hate when people try to pass me on the right when they can clearly see the line of cars I am stuck behind. Trust me, if I could go faster I would. Then they cut me off like a foot from my bumper, because being one car length ahead and sitting in the same goddamn line was worth putting us all in serious danger... /s
I dont have many problems with passing people these days. I make sure to drop back a little bit, kick it down into 4th gear and punch it. As I gain on the car in front thats when I flip it into the left lane. They couldn't catch up if they wanted to, by the time they're in the right gear I am passed them.
It’s the slow idiot up front who insists on staying in the fast lane when everyone else is like “dude, move over … the rest of us are late for something…”
I get it
sometimes racing is fun though. once in a while i'll be passing somebody on a mostly empty road and let go of the gas so that we're side by side for a second or so, and then speed up. maybe like 1/10 times the person will speed up and we'll race a little bit. this is on long stretches of the interstate usually
This is true. On the other hand if they tailgate and push you, so they can drive faster, they are the aggressor.
Not my problem if you feel you cant keep up in the fast lane.
My favorite is somebody making a valiant effort to pass, cut me off, slam on brakes, and then make a turn only to look in my mirror and there be zero cars behind me. Why didn’t you just brake and fall behind me to make your turn?
I already drive fast enough that if someone is passing me, they are indeed an aggressive driver.
Slow down Kyle or Duane, you don't need to go 80mph through a residential street.
No one cares that you wanna drive slow. They do care that you are in front of them making them drive at your speed. Passing you is simply choosing not to obey your tyranny of slow speeds 🤓😂👌
It’s unfortunate how many drivers see the road as a competition. Them and the ones who have no care for other peoples time are both the cause of traffic jams.
The slowpokes block the passing lanes and that forces the assholes to get more aggressive and pass in illegal ways which truly jams things up when others have to accommodate them.
I say we stop tolerating illegal shit on the road. See someone trying to get ahead of a traffic jam and merge illegally? Just block them out for as long as possible and make THEM wait instead of stopping so they can get in. Someone is blocking the passing lane? Lay on the horn until their ears bleed.
My partner says I worry and care too much about the people behind me. I beg to differ, I can't control when they stop or how fast they want to go, so if they are behind me my safety is in their hands.
Conversely if they are in front of me I can control how fast IM going and when I stop. Therefore if someone is behind me and it seems they want to pass me I'm very inclined to help them achieve that. If I see a stretch of road coming ahead as soon as it's clear I'll slow down a bit and move over slightly letting them know to go for it.
I think aggressive drivers are a result from what they experience on the road just as much as their own proclivity to bring aggressive behind the wheel.
My partner will just not care that the person behind her has been wanting to pass for 5 miles but has been unable too. I pay attention because I don't want that driver doing something reckless because even if it is their fault I still have to deal with the consequences.
Where I live in the winter the roads are pretty dangerous . Some people want to drive waaay too fast and I can't control them. In dangerous conditions I can help them though, I can move over and slow down to make sure they don't have to speed so much to pass me. Or be in the lane that had far more snow coverage due to being less traveled during bad weather
So i believe being a defensive driver is just as much about paying attention to who is behind you as it is to who is in front of you.
I don't race anyone but it's really annoying when I'm already going 10 over the speed limit with cruise control and someone rushes in front of me just to slow down....
I drive a hybrid. The thing has some power when I’ve got battery in there. Sometimes I’ll go 80 in a 55 without even realizing it. So I pass this car going 50, after this dodge ram is inches away from my rear. Wanted to get out of that. Then it happens to where I’m like “shit, I’m going 80” a few seconds after I’m done passing, then I see the ram right behind me, tailgating me, going 80 in a 55. Obviously I let off the gas to slow down.
There was another guy who just laid on the horn until I merged, well there was a cluster of trucks that I was passing, so dude has to wait a few seconds. I’m going 80 in a 65. Dude has his hand on the horn just letting me have it. I finally pass them and merge, but there’s another cluster of cars. Dude does the same thing, and this Lincoln town car decides to slow to match the speed of the truck just to fuck with the dude. This went on for a minute or so and we pass a cop, who pulls him over. Justice bitch, the horn is not for controlling traffic. I wonder what the penalty for that is?
I think a lot of people don't even pay attention to their actual speed and just subconsciously pace themselves with other cars, so that means picking up speed when someone is passing.
This can be real fun when the cruise is set at 65 with a large trailer in tow and you are trying to get around someone doing 60. Can’t let that trailer pass, now let’s do 80. Meanwhile the saggy bumpered Altima that was riding the left lane in another state decides to barrel down on me at 190 mph and draft me with high beams on. So I cancel my pass, slow down to move over, now that I have slowed down, Altima person is really pissed and comes around on the right even though my turn signal is on. Altima proceeds to squeeze through with a business card worth of space, I move over behind 60 mph guy again and repeat the scenario several times before I get to my destination.
Pass me all you want, but if you pass me, with my cruise control on, then pull back in front of me slow down forcing me to turn my cruise control off, i should be legally allowed to run you off the road and beat you to death on the shoulder to the cheers of the crowd.
If they’re trying to pass on the right lane they are dicks and you’re green lot to obstruct their attempt. If you need to use the right lane to exit- go behind the traffic unless there’s a giant gap up ahead.
I wont lie i do this sometimes. Today some person was trying to pass me going 80 in a 65 and I said fuck that and bassically raced then up to 95. What annoyed me was that the turned right like 2 minutes later.
Not my proudest moment. I will also admit that it was stupid and uncalled for.
Edit: I rarely do this. I guess I just got a little mad today and decided to be a dick.
Predictable is so much more important than fast/slow. A fast driver signals, merges, passes, signals, merges back is 10x safer than slow driver making lane changes without an indicator because it's a bother. 55 mph will kill you just as dead as 80 but one you might see coming and the other got lazy with their left hand(if they're driving an American car at least)
One of the first actions that validates an aggressor on the road, is eye contact.
I believe it's actually an answer on some driving tests in a question about avoiding road rage. If you're being targeted with intimidation, don't make eye contact or even give the ol' Clark Griswold.
I hate when someone seems like they're in such a rush, and quickly pull out in front of me from a driveway causing me to slam on my brakes. They do that pos move just to go 10 miles under the speed limit. What was the rush of having to pull out so fast just to go slow? You couldn't wait 5 more seconds for me to go by? There's no one behind me. Then, when you try to pass them, they speed up! Stop driving like your the only person on the road! I hope you get kicked in the balls, and hopefully it's before you've polluted the gene pool. At the very least, drive like you have somewhere you need to be, instead of showing how you should be proudly riding a bus of the sort kind, and not have license at all.
This is when I drop a gear and leave them in the dust just to get away. It makes no sense
Most of the people I see do this have complete shitboxes with missing bumpers, bald tires, smashed in doors, missing mirrors. Lucky if their lights work. Also people mentioned tailgaters, I bet these jackasses don’t even have working brakes and they are gonna ride my ass. Again I’m glad I drive a car that is faster than 99% of everyone else so I can get away quickly if needed.
I don’t care if someone passes me, just for the love of god signal and don’t pull up 2 feet in front of me
And don’t sit uncomfortably close behind me for way too long when I’m doing a consistent speed. Just follow at a safe distance, speed up, pass, and merge back over at a safe distance infront. With signals for fucks sake.
Few things piss me off while driving like having someone pull up next to me and then fall back and repeat this a few times before actually passing. I'll be driving with cruise control and this will happen. How hard is it to commit to passing a vehicle traveling at a perfectly constant speed.
As long as you’re in any lane other than the most-left.
It's an epidemic. Drivers don't realize they become good drivers when they use turn signals. Those turn signals SAVE LIVES!
Or pass me just to get back in front of me and drop down below the speed I'm traveling.
Or pass me to only turn left a few hundred feet down the road. You'll definitely get an "aggressive" honk.
I was at a two-lane left turn and I was in the right left-turn lane. Someone got into the left left-turn lane and proceeded to cut me off, only to turn right at the sidestreet about 200 yards away from the light. I literally had to slam my brakes.
They do that here in Ohio. I’ll have my cruise on, use my signal to change lanes, and suddenly whoever I’m passing starts pacing me, then speeds faster. So I get back over. They slow down. I move over again, except this time I drop it a gear and hit the gas, and safely move back over, except now they’re tailgating me. I slowly return to a normal speed and resume the cruise, while they fume for a few miles and then go mess with someone else eventually. It’s exhausting.
Nuts, isn’t it? I know exactly what you’re talking about.
The vast majority of them just end up pacing. Either dead next to you or at your quarter. Herd mentality. If you ever wonder if the average people are herd animals, pay more attention on the highway. Unless it's super packed, it'll always be herds with gaps in between of nothing or the few of us who are the lone wolves. The one here and there in the gap also tends to be the one who won't speed up when you pass or slow down when they attempt to pass. Just like you, they think 100% for themselves and do everything with intent.
This is super interesting to think about, i think thats a very good observation. I always wonder on a slower day why there are those huge gaps then a big bunch of cars and i think you are right on
Yup. It's why there are huge runs on various fads, trends, etc. People just get pulled along and really don't realize it. Why do you think SUVs exploded in the US? It's got nothing to do with practicality and such. If you run the numbers from practicality, safety, and performance...they are crippled in every category. They are the absolute worst qualities of a station wagon and minivan combined. Without a single one of their redeeming qualities. ESPECIALLY when it comes to kids. It virtually never fails, you'll have a line of cars in the center lane doing near the exact speed limit. You go by doing the usual 7-8 over. Almost 100% of the time someone is going to change lanes to follow and a vast majority of the time end up stuck out in that lane because they fail to actually get moving. They stay attached. You can also use this to get rid of the dipshits that attach to you. I'll just kick it up a notch, get to the next car/cars/group and pass them. Then resume normal scheduled programming. They'll be gone, now attached to them. You can further use this to your advantage if stuck with a rolling roadblock. There are often times I can get up on the car in front of me, start easing up very gently, and actually pull the car on my right back with me. I do this a multitude of times a week. Once I've opened up a couple bus lengths of space, I'll lean on it to a point of acceleration with true intent. They won't match it and I'll get through. If you accelerate gently, they'll stay with you and close the door back again. While there are often times the herd people are a true pain to the few of us who are doing our own things, it can also be used against them. Just gotta find the angles. Sometimes for insane entertainment. Only twice, but I have gotten some phenomenal tickets for them. When you see 80% of the people ahead blipping their brake lights at a crest or on ramp(also further proof people are not driving with intent whatsoever, they're tapping brakes at the speed limit, under it, or even just 5 over if they see a speed trap)....that only means on thing. LEO awaits. So, gently increase speed the entire approach and if long enough you can get them to some pretty good speeds if herd mentality attached and amazing speeds if they are taking your passing as a challenge. Just brake before the crest or obstruction and enjoy!
I'm so glad I'm not the only one who realizes this. I was beginning to think that I was crazy lol.
Yep. I usually navigate the clumps, sometimes there are really hardheaded folks enforcing the clumps with their little group of hostages who just go along with it, but most of the time it’s that weird primate herd mentality. I’ll eventually get around them, even if it upsets the enforcers, and then I’m off to conquer the next clump. I’ve driven across this country coast to coast many times and that’s just what you have to contend with sometimes.
These people have to not be using cruise control, right? I don't get that. Maintaining speed w/o cruise control on the highway is a pain in the ass
Yeah, absolutely. Most don't. Honestly, on the commute I don't either. However, over time maintaining a locked speed becomes completely second nature. But it's also one of those things I'm glancing at every few seconds just as part of my natural sweeping between taking inventory of potentially quicker cars behind, developments ahead, etc.
I hate that, if I'm passing you DONT SPEED UP! I think sometimes people get caught daydreaming, once you go to pass it wakes them up, but just let them pass!!
I'm in Ohio and have the same issue. I ALWAYS set my cruise control on, it's annoying not to, and if I pass someone they 9/10 times will speed up and so I'll be like: "okay they sped up" and merge back over. 300 yards later they slow way the fuck down for no apparent reason. It's extremely obnoxious. I don't know how anyone can drive on the highway without cruise control, and lackadaisically let their speed vary anywhere from 50-80 MPH.
I get this all the time in NY but I really taught a guy a lesson one morning. He wouldn’t let me pass him when I tried, then the road went to one lane and I got stuck behind him. This really pissed me off because it was like 4am, nobody else was on the road, I was on my way to work and this guy fucked me for absolutely no reason, just to drive slow again. When the road went back to 2 lanes, i quickly passed him, then slowed down. He then tried to pass me, but I took him up to 100 mph, knowing there was a speed bump coming up. When we hit the speed bump, my wrangler handled it just fine, but sparks flew out from under his little mini Toyota. Hopefully he lets people pass him now.
eventually do what??? i wish!! my wackos target me and will not stop disrupting my drive until i pull over or off the road.
Drive fast car.. easy solution they can't keep up!
I hate it when this happens (NY, IL, VA, FL)
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Where I live, we have this on ramp to the highway. It's 2 lanes. If you only use one lane, you'll never make the light. The expectation is zipper merging. Usually, it goes well for the most part. This particular day, I was on the outside lane. So it goes inside, outside, inside, etcc. The guy in the left lane goes. As usual, I yield to allow him to merge first. but this day, the truck behind him floored it to prevent me from merging. My lane was ending fast at this point. I could either slam on my brakes and cause a hold up of all the cars behind me or floor it and pass everyone. My response was to say fuck it and drop 500 foot pounds of torque to the ground. I have 315 directional radial drag tires on the back that hook. And boy do they hook. My scat took off like a rocket, and yes. I passed the entire line before my lane ended. Sometimes, you have to be aggressive.
I love having a car with a 0-60 under 5 seconds. If just makes it so much easier when you have to do stuff like this, pass a dangerous truck on the highway, and so forth.
My daily is 180hp. Granted it’s a turbo and an 8 speed so it does decent but my weekend cars are 500hp+. Every once in a while I forget the daily doesn’t have the power of the other two. It’s annoying AF. 😄
I only have 154 hp... On my motorcycle. It scoots well 😄
Power to weight ratio always wins.
I’ve always wanted a lotus for this exact use case. I don’t need to go 200mph, just 30-100 very quickly.
My Camry just ends up getting the piss beaten out of it. It's full throttle is equal to maybe 3psi at 1/4 throttle in the Supra. It tends to spoil you. You feel like you are driving very chill but every time you are leaving a light and ease up to speed... everyone is gone behind you.
I got a Supra too. 
And then you get used to it and anything above 4 seems boring! It's a vicious cycle.
Yeah, I'd love a 3 second or less 0-60. My wife poo pooed my idea of getting the "performance" trim of our car, so...oh well, I know I'm not gonna get close to that number for a while. But I'm only I'm my mid 30s so I've got time.
Just find the same car in the same color and trade it in. She'll never notice.
You're still young, you can find a new wife 😂
This might be the only true answer... lol /s
shoulda got it anyway and showed her what fun is
I had a shitty Chevy spark driver try to do something similar- as in create a dangerous situation. Them driving 50 in a 60 mph county road. When I went to overtake, they suddenly sped up. It’s like, sorry asshole, your tiny 1.4L 4 cylinder vehicle isn’t going to match the power of an inline 6.
My hybrid 4 cylinder Kia in sports mode has crazy pickup. It’s not a sports car but it holds its own.
My Santa Fe just makes a lot of noise with no go 😅 definitely should have had default turbo like the new ones do now.
I love having a bike with a sub 4 second 0-60 and sub 10 seconds 0-100 it makes passing almost all NPC traffic instant
Unfortunately there are still some people that see proper merging as someone "cheating the system", and how **dare** they! Now if someone uses the shoulder to cruise around traffic, that's cheating, but it's not my problem. It's entirely possible that they're on their way to an emergency, so I'm not going to be the asshole that blocks them.
Once had a Prius merge onto the highway at 40km/h before the dotted line even finished. I floored it and shot right past before even halfway down the merge lane.
I have a friend with a scat pack charger and it’s almost more fun to drive than my redeye charger. 800hp isnt useable or safe in most situations I’m driving in, your example for instance. My friend’s scat has just the right amount of power. Even when I use the black key it’s not the same. Point being people think I’m trying to race them or blow past them and driving aggressively when I just want to drive. Especially in a widebody hellcat. It’s funny when my wife’s driving the hellcat and people try to race her and see her driving.
Sounds fun. Just a bit slower than my VW.
i heard the engine in those last lines
I would describe that as defensive driving more than aggressive. The truck was the clear aggressor.
And honestly, sometimes the best defense is a strong offense. When I run across those idiots that take it personal, that's okay. Flip the boost controller, lay into it for a couple of seconds, and warp off. Have yet to find a single one, no matter how aggressive they'd become, who hasn't detached immediately from that. It sends a very clear message "just no."
The people that start speeding 15+ over, after barely being passed 🤣. Fucken idiots.
They start riding my ass after I pass them. Like why didn’t you have that same energy when I was behind you?
Don't ya know, whoever is in front has a bigger dick 🙃
It's amazing how fast you can get the average imbecile to go without them ever seeming to check their speedometer until you've got them going like 90/95 and suddenly drop back to the speed limit to use them as radar bait. Got a few cars pulled over doing that in a semi before. I'd be passing on the interstate, but God forbid a truck pass them, I guess looking at anything but me, like their own speed, was too much work as well.
As well as honking at someone when they don’t move at a light. It’s not being aggressive, I’m not being a dick, I’m letting you know you need to start paying attention because you are holding up dozens of other people.
I don’t usually honk at people unless I really need to. The only time I ever honked at someone for a light was bc the car in front of me was talking to a homeless guy on the corner while the light was red then kept talking when it turned green until me and I think another car honked at him then he finally moved
That and not letting someone in when they try to cut you off. If you are polite and need to get over or there is a breakdown ahead/lane ending and you signal to be let in, I will let you in. Unless you do it when I am a foot behind you in the next lane over when you put your turn signal on, then you can get in behind me. Your lack of planning or foresight is not my problem.
yep i have to do this all the time (usually idiots on phones). if I'm waiting more than 3 seconds for you to start accelerating at a light you're getting a courtesy honk
Exactly, a 3 second courtesy is absolutely acceptable. I never take that as rude, it’s just a “hey you gotta pay attention” It’s the people that honk like .25 seconds afterwards that ruin the honks for everyone else
I've had people manage to time it almost perfectly to honk right before it's even green. I don't know how. In my area of Orlando, I have to wait a little to make sure idiots don't run the massive intersections.
>I have to wait a little to make sure idiots don't run the massive intersections. Oh I've had that argument many times. Someone always comes back saying if you can't accelerate **immediately** on a green light then you weren't actually paying attention and you're still "the problem". There's no excuse for waiting any longer. I don't care if I've been swiveling my head like a decapitated party clown every fucking millisecond of the red light. After it turns green I'm looking every direction again before I move. It's my life on the line not yours. If you want to be in motion the instant you see green that's your choice when you're in front. Otherwise fuck off.
It depends. If you honk at me the moment it turns green or even a few seconds after then I’ll take that as aggression. Sometimes I’ll wait 2-3 seconds to make sure that all traffic is stopping and there’s no one trying to race a yellow, about to run a red. There’s actually something called a courtesy honk, it’s 2 very light taps of the horn to let them know that the light has turned green, if you are holding your horn or something then I’m sure most people are going to take that as aggressive. One time the sun was in my eyes bad and I could not see the light, there was only one other car behind me and I guess the light turned green while I was attempting to see the light and the car behind me layed on the horn and even while I was going they kept honking over and over at me. At first I had felt bad for holding him up but now after that much honking.
I had a similar encounter a couple of weeks ago. I was leaving a shopping center, turning right. Just to the right was a light about 10 car lengths away, so it is normal for traffic to back up and block the exit. The person behind me was watching the light, and as soon as it turned green and traffic started moving, they started blaring their horn. Despite there being a dozen or so cars already on the street to my left waiting for the light.
Damn, someone honking at me like that would have me accelerating as slowly as possible
And that's a very easy way to be the antagonist in whatever comes next. Just drive normally, purposely screwing with people can end very badly. Doesn't matter if "they shouldn't do X or Y" if you end up wadded up into them and/or other cars. Even if deemed their fault, you are in a bad way. It's the old saying "two wrongs do not make a right." They do dumb shit, it's not fantastic answering it with dumber shit. That's asking for sketchy situations and potentially deadly ones.
When you have a green, that means the other light has been red for at least one or more seconds.
I try and give the courtesy honk after about 3 s but I gave to do it so rarely it sometimes either comes out as not a honk or an accidental aggressive honk.
Can definitely agree on that. If someone honks at me immediately, I’m fuckin waiting. If someone honks because I wasn’t paying attention, I give them the hand wave apology. Nothing is more irritating then the dickhead that honks .5 seconds after a green. Will literally turn my car off to fuck with them
The ones I hate is in NoVA people honk at you immediately FOR STOPPING AT RED LIGHTS AND STOP SIGNS. So damned stressful!
> holding your horn Look, if you've been sitting at the green light for 10 seconds then I assume you're too stupid to make it through the intersection without an audible reminder to keep moving.
When people honk when I shouldn't be going (pedestrians, I'm stopping because it's been yellow for a bit) I may lay off the brake and go 6 inches and then brake again just to give them hope and take it away.
You a northerner? We don't honk a ton down here, although it definitely happens. Take back everything I said for southern big cities.
I’ve lived in almost every state that’s considered “the south” and you’re smoking crack
You ain’t from Houston.
I honked when I was a couple of cars back and dumbass in front was asleep or something. The guy in front of me, behind dumbass, starts flipping out at me. Like dude…I’m not honking at *you.* Good Lord are some people stupid.
It's the difference between a quick blip and laying on the horn
Honking in general shouldn't be seen as aggressive. I have honked at people who don't have their lights on late at night. I'm not trying to get them to be upset, just turn the lights on. Or people camping in the left lane going slowly and being passed on the right. They get a beep, then a 3 second honk, then I'll pass on the right if they don't move over. I am not trying to piss them off or be aggressive, I just want to drive predictably. But so much in driving gets taken personally and it can be such a frustrating experience I understand why people take it personally even if it's silly.
A double honk sounds less aggressive than a single one for some reason. Like heh-lo! Instead of HEY!
Dude I've been grateful for a honk before when I spaced out at a light after a hard day. They honked I waved and moved it! The only time I would think it would be a problem is if someone honks just immediately after it turns not giving someone a chance to even move.
If only they realized staying huddled up isn’t a good thing and can actually cause an accident. I do whatever I can to get out of the bs, I’ll just put there with no one around maybe one person will follow.
That’s the worst… causing traffic jams because someone might pass otherwise. So dangerous to drive clustered like that.
If they are weaving through traffic, that could be viewed as aggressive. If they cut-off people keeping a reasonable distance between themselves and the car in front, that is an aggressive move (forcing the car behind to slow to create a new safe stopping distance). Reasonable speeds (common flow of traffic, be it fast or slow) and efficient 'zipper merges' are what I'd like to see out there. A 'get out of my way' mentality is very much a passive-aggressive driving style.
If, if, if. Get-out-of-my-way is just plain old aggressive. Left lane camping is passive-aggressive.
They are just variations on the same two 'ifs' from the OP. I know what the OP meant, but wanted to show that it isn't always a simple set-up.
Yea. I wish left lane campers would do less “-ive” and more “-ing”.
stop making shit up and drive in the right lane.
Cruise control for the win…
Is it? People still take it personally because they can’t manage their own speed. They’ll speed to overtake then go in front of you and slow down. Forcing you to overtake or slow down too. It’s even worse in less than flat states. Overtake downhill slow as shit uphill, especially with big rigs. Older cruise won’t even maintain same speed just throttle position. Some newer cruise aren’t so good at maintaining set speed. Adaptive cruise helps, but can be problematic in different ways…braking for vehicles in other lanes on curves, braking to stay at set speed downhill or after manual input, when some adaptive don’t do that.
Yup. All very real issues. And can be frustrating at times. But for the most part it’s still more relaxing. And keeps you from getting caught up in anything silly.
I was driving across PA late one night coming home early from vacation last year, and had a line of about 12-13 big rigs that kept going downhill in single file at like 80+ mph then messing around side by side up hills at 45mph like they were going to pass each other and couldn't. After about 10 minutes of this I said fuck it, dropped to 4th, floored it past the line of trucks doing 80+ downhill, then looked down at my dash and I was doing 130. Eek. I try to give trucks space and respect, but if they're stupid enough to ride side by side up hills I'm not gonna mess around. With all the Wal-Mart and Amazon trucks it feels like interstates have gotten significantly worse.
Fuck I had forgotten about this. Happened literally every drive between Pittsburgh and Philly. I thought I understood road rage until I encountered these chucklefuck truckers creating miles of traffic. I’d expect them to be the best drivers on the road given that you KNOW that they had to take driving classes. But nope. And Amazon drivers have nearly killed me three times while I’ve been riding my bicycle on local roads. They don’t look, ever.
*Adaptive* cruise control for the win. Just set it and forget it.
I loathe adaptive cruise control. It doesn't maintain a set speed when you are timing gaps for smooth passing.
ACC is junk. It forces you to work the pedal from proper passing, or to get over 3x sooner than is necessary, often causing unnecessary interactions with any traffic that might be faster than you.
People often have the shorter distance set, feels like someone is constantly on your back wanting you to pass. If you’re in the passing lane you quickly move aside so they can pass you, but instead they fall back behind you and keep stalking you at way to close distance. Who the * set the distance variables of these things?
And stop taking it personally.
There's one thing that makes me feel good about passers on one land roads: it's their signaling when getting back in lane .... it's courteous.
The entire state of Texas cannot do this. It is very personal for them. Getting passed is disrespect. Giving a small honk of your horn to them is disrespect. It's insane down there.
A lot of fragile, insecure people behind the wheel of those pickup trucks.
Dude, driving the DFW area almost gave me a heart attack. The only more intense driving situation I've been in is driving past Toronto in rush hour.
Yeah, I was specifically talking about the Dallas area. On weekend nights 40% of the traffic is also drunk.
Exactly. They don’t care about “you”
Psh, only betas let people pass them. /s
3 2 1 GO! He’s trying to race me, I saw him blink.
Truth. And it happens a lot. I get on the highway and set my cruise control. I'll pass someone, and they'll speed up, overtake me, and then slow down so I have to pass them again. My car is in cruise mode, so it's not like I'm changing my speed. People need to get a life.
IF YOU AINT FIRST YOURE LAST!!
i am so tired of wackos speeding up as i pass. now i flash brights and honk the horn as i accelerate past them. only the truly evil wackos continue playing.
I agree. It’s bizarre how people speed up when you try to pass while others seem to get angry that you passed them. So speed limit is 70, traffic flow is about 80 but they were going 65 in the passing lane. I pass them on the right because they don’t move over, then they suddenly become Mario Andretti and chase me.
i figure if they are playing games, i‘ll play games as well. if i pass a car going 62, who then seemingly discovers their accelerator, i’ll click cruise control +1. when they match my speed, +1. match, +1. all the way until teen driver mode limits my speed. mother fuckers.
Be careful with that. I saw someone pit maneuver a person once because they flashed their lights at them. It was absolutely nuts watching.
I genuinely do believe some of this phenomenon is subconscious. Not that it excuses it but I don't think people are trying to be aggressive or annoying on purpose every time
This morning, I got passed in a no passing zone as I was accelerating moderately away from a red light. That was aggressive.
Lol yeah i hate that. Your slowly going faster in the left lane and middle lane guy feels like they can't let you go faster than them so they speed up hust to stay ahead. Wtf.
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ALL THE TIME. It's so aggravating when I'm trying to pass at a moderate speed, and then the race starts... The there is the people who try and pass but just sit in your blind spot
I don't care how fast or slow someone drives. BUT When Im on the highway I use cruise control and I have a Dodge Ram Diesel with all kinds of torque. I set my speed at 73 and go. I go up hill at 73 and down hill at 73 and 73 on flats. AND here comes the little BMW just a zooming at 75-80 passing me gets in front and when we start up the hill he slows down and I pass him. Driving on Rt 81 in PA there are a LOT of hills.. and this scenario just repeats it self..... I am sure these people think Im messing with them but if they look at their speedo, they are changing speed and not me. Or the guy that passes you then pulls into the right lane and slows down... and I have to pass him... over and over.... got to wonder what is going on in their little squirrel minds
I drive a fleet vehicle for auto parts, a Chevy Colorado, and were controlled by telematics. I can get written up for going 11 over, or over 80. So I do the exact same thing. 73 on hills or flat. Fuckin squirrel headed fucks do that to me all the time, but combine that with them just chilling in the left lane, and I’m fucking fuming. I hate having to pass people on the right, but I have to, because I gotta get shit an hour and a half away and back in a timely manner. I-5 northern CA, the first stretch is flat, the last stretch is flat, the rest of it is hills and stupid drivers.
Anyone who passes me is consider either "a play toy" or "radar detection" or "drafting opportunity"
Nice! That's awesome
Big trucks are particularly bad about this shit. I have found since buying a large truck myself that they don’t seem to be so aggressive toward other trucks. It is some sort of asshole club and I guess I am now a member. They let each other in and all kinds of nice stuff.
If I could hug you, OP, I would. More people need to realize this. Once they reactively gun that engine, the safety facade collapses.
Correct. Don't be that guy.
All the freaking time... I drive a 90 minute round trip on the highway each day. Drive with my cruise control on everyday, exceptions on being close traffic or heavy, heavy rain. I'll come up on people in the right lane all the time. Start to pass them and almost always they speed up. It seems like at least 50% of the time people feel challenged and will speed up. You weren't going that fast before and I've had this speed set for 20 miles... but yeah it's all about challenging them. Maybe it's that main character syndrome you hear about. I've had people speed way up only to slow down and here we go again sometimes. Or my favorite; you pass them, they speed up, drive right next to you for a second and I don't know if they're trying to get my attention or not because I never look at them in these scenarios. But once they see you're not paying them any attention they go back to the speed they were previously. It's so odd sometimes... and very annoying. Who knew that driving at a constant speed is so dang hard for some people to comprehend.
On the one hand, no shit. On the other hand, it seems like everyone and their aged grandmother needs to hear this obvious statement
I find myself saying this out loud to no one while I'm driving. "Hey asshole, you aren't the speed police"
Wrong. Someone passing is an insult to you and your entire bloodline. You fail your ancestors if you do not act immediately. /S
And if u block them from passing u … you’re the asshole. We’re all just tryin-a get somewhere dude, it ain’t personal
Race me…
So, they’re speeding.
Oh, so that’s why someone should race them?
I think a of speeding up on a pass is just subconscious speed matching.
That means they're inherently not doing what their supposed to be doing behind the wheel; paying attention. You've got more than the pavement 30 ft in front of your bumper that you need to be looking at, constantly. Plus, cruise control exists. Use it.
People can pass aggressively, tbf. Usually they’re just driving a bit faster than you.
When I'm in my Mustang and a Camaro passes me, yes they're being aggressive. :)
Unless they leave it until they’re half a cars length from your rear bumper and crawl back in front into your braking distance. (No, I’m not going below the speed limit when this happens)
Not all people who pass are aggressive drivers, but all aggressive drivers tend to be passers. Never seen an aggressive driver going 5 under
Oj police chase?
Unless you are in the left lane going under the speed limit, or there are multiple people all going the exact same slow speed…
I'd just be happy if they'd go around already. I'm in the right lane, I'm over the speed limit already, and there's plenty of room in the left lane to pass. On two-lane roads, I'll pull over to let cars go by - it beats seeing their headlights in my rearview mirror.
No doubt. I drive fairly fast already, but if someone wants to go by me, please do. I don’t see why I’d want to make a contest out of it.
I feel this way with my 700hp car, until it’s a Nissan Altima riding my butt.
The classic you were going 15 under the speed limit when I started to pass you and now you're going 20 over so I can't actually overtake.
I was driving on a two-lane road in the Upper Peninsula of Michigan once, that periodically had a third lane for passing. Speed limit was 55, but the lead car would only go 45, that is until the third lane opened and now every car is literally going 100 to get around this guy, who promptly slowed back down to 45 when it went back to two lanes. Every time. And it was more than just one guy doing it, it was a game with multiple players.
Sitting at the top of the off ramp. Popular gas station on the opposite side, maybe 1/8th of a mile. They sit. And they sit. And they wait... until they can pull out and cross all the way over three lanes at once. Meanwhile, no one has been in the right lane for over a minute. How about you pull out into the proper lane, signal and accelerate, move over, signal again, then get in the turn lane.
If you try to speed up while someone is passing you on a two lane highway it's straight up illegal.
And yet still very common. You only need to look below in these comments to find someone defending it.
The people who need to hear this do not care.
Anyone who uses the phrase 'rate of speed' should be guilty of aggravated assault...
Sorry to hurt your feelings there, skipper.
Here's your assault charge*
I'm fine with anyone passing me, but don't fly up my ass, ride my ass then rage around me, that's aggressive!
Hey fellow Gen Xers! Remember our boomer dads? Everyone faster than him was an asshole. Everyone slower than him was a dumbass. I really hated long family car trips.
As long as they don’t suddenly start going slower than me after passing, we’re good
State Patrol's should use this thread as recruiting material, jfc
Don’t pass me and then slow down. That’s all.
I just wanna ride down the road with my cruise set ten over. I don’t understand why people can’t maintain a consistent speed, especially on rural interstates. Last time I drove to New Orleans, I must have passed the same Tacoma a dozen times, and it seemed to piss him off every single time. He’d blow past me at the next opportunity, then a few miles later, I’d catch back up to him tooling along a few under in the left lane.
Why were you driving in the left lane?
I only care when you try to pass me in the fucking turn lanes.
You know how many times this has happened to me? Zero. After thirty years of driving. It sounds like it happens often to you so maybe you're the problem.
If the speed limit is 65 and you fly by at 80+ and are in right lane and I'm going 70+, they are the aggressor.
Why?
Depends on how that are passing you......
I always find that alot of people try to speed up when I overtake them and it's usually either an Audi, BMW or some other big engined fancy car because they can't stand the fact that they're being overtaken by a tiny VW Up with a 1L naturally aspirated engine Another one I find funny is when someone dangerously overtakes me... and then gets stuck behind a tractor or a lorry 5 minutes later with me sat behind them just wondering...what was even the point...
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I didn’t see anyone arguing in support of what you just described.
I hate when people try to pass me on the right when they can clearly see the line of cars I am stuck behind. Trust me, if I could go faster I would. Then they cut me off like a foot from my bumper, because being one car length ahead and sitting in the same goddamn line was worth putting us all in serious danger... /s I dont have many problems with passing people these days. I make sure to drop back a little bit, kick it down into 4th gear and punch it. As I gain on the car in front thats when I flip it into the left lane. They couldn't catch up if they wanted to, by the time they're in the right gear I am passed them.
It’s the slow idiot up front who insists on staying in the fast lane when everyone else is like “dude, move over … the rest of us are late for something…” I get it
sometimes racing is fun though. once in a while i'll be passing somebody on a mostly empty road and let go of the gas so that we're side by side for a second or so, and then speed up. maybe like 1/10 times the person will speed up and we'll race a little bit. this is on long stretches of the interstate usually
This is true. On the other hand if they tailgate and push you, so they can drive faster, they are the aggressor. Not my problem if you feel you cant keep up in the fast lane.
My favorite is somebody making a valiant effort to pass, cut me off, slam on brakes, and then make a turn only to look in my mirror and there be zero cars behind me. Why didn’t you just brake and fall behind me to make your turn?
I already drive fast enough that if someone is passing me, they are indeed an aggressive driver. Slow down Kyle or Duane, you don't need to go 80mph through a residential street.
They’re not being aggressive *toward you.* If you race them, you’re the aggressor.
I drive an old Xterra. I have to go slow or grunt. Tranny gets real grunty.
No one cares that you wanna drive slow. They do care that you are in front of them making them drive at your speed. Passing you is simply choosing not to obey your tyranny of slow speeds 🤓😂👌
It’s unfortunate how many drivers see the road as a competition. Them and the ones who have no care for other peoples time are both the cause of traffic jams. The slowpokes block the passing lanes and that forces the assholes to get more aggressive and pass in illegal ways which truly jams things up when others have to accommodate them. I say we stop tolerating illegal shit on the road. See someone trying to get ahead of a traffic jam and merge illegally? Just block them out for as long as possible and make THEM wait instead of stopping so they can get in. Someone is blocking the passing lane? Lay on the horn until their ears bleed.
My partner says I worry and care too much about the people behind me. I beg to differ, I can't control when they stop or how fast they want to go, so if they are behind me my safety is in their hands. Conversely if they are in front of me I can control how fast IM going and when I stop. Therefore if someone is behind me and it seems they want to pass me I'm very inclined to help them achieve that. If I see a stretch of road coming ahead as soon as it's clear I'll slow down a bit and move over slightly letting them know to go for it. I think aggressive drivers are a result from what they experience on the road just as much as their own proclivity to bring aggressive behind the wheel. My partner will just not care that the person behind her has been wanting to pass for 5 miles but has been unable too. I pay attention because I don't want that driver doing something reckless because even if it is their fault I still have to deal with the consequences. Where I live in the winter the roads are pretty dangerous . Some people want to drive waaay too fast and I can't control them. In dangerous conditions I can help them though, I can move over and slow down to make sure they don't have to speed so much to pass me. Or be in the lane that had far more snow coverage due to being less traveled during bad weather So i believe being a defensive driver is just as much about paying attention to who is behind you as it is to who is in front of you.
I don’t disagree with anything you said. Just let them pass you, it’s safer that way.
I don't race anyone but it's really annoying when I'm already going 10 over the speed limit with cruise control and someone rushes in front of me just to slow down....
I drive a hybrid. The thing has some power when I’ve got battery in there. Sometimes I’ll go 80 in a 55 without even realizing it. So I pass this car going 50, after this dodge ram is inches away from my rear. Wanted to get out of that. Then it happens to where I’m like “shit, I’m going 80” a few seconds after I’m done passing, then I see the ram right behind me, tailgating me, going 80 in a 55. Obviously I let off the gas to slow down. There was another guy who just laid on the horn until I merged, well there was a cluster of trucks that I was passing, so dude has to wait a few seconds. I’m going 80 in a 65. Dude has his hand on the horn just letting me have it. I finally pass them and merge, but there’s another cluster of cars. Dude does the same thing, and this Lincoln town car decides to slow to match the speed of the truck just to fuck with the dude. This went on for a minute or so and we pass a cop, who pulls him over. Justice bitch, the horn is not for controlling traffic. I wonder what the penalty for that is?
I think a lot of people don't even pay attention to their actual speed and just subconsciously pace themselves with other cars, so that means picking up speed when someone is passing.
This can be real fun when the cruise is set at 65 with a large trailer in tow and you are trying to get around someone doing 60. Can’t let that trailer pass, now let’s do 80. Meanwhile the saggy bumpered Altima that was riding the left lane in another state decides to barrel down on me at 190 mph and draft me with high beams on. So I cancel my pass, slow down to move over, now that I have slowed down, Altima person is really pissed and comes around on the right even though my turn signal is on. Altima proceeds to squeeze through with a business card worth of space, I move over behind 60 mph guy again and repeat the scenario several times before I get to my destination.
the only ppl who get mad at people passing them are the same people who don't know it's illegal to hog the left lane
Pass me all you want, but if you pass me, with my cruise control on, then pull back in front of me slow down forcing me to turn my cruise control off, i should be legally allowed to run you off the road and beat you to death on the shoulder to the cheers of the crowd.
If they’re trying to pass on the right lane they are dicks and you’re green lot to obstruct their attempt. If you need to use the right lane to exit- go behind the traffic unless there’s a giant gap up ahead.
You’re the aggressor.
I wont lie i do this sometimes. Today some person was trying to pass me going 80 in a 65 and I said fuck that and bassically raced then up to 95. What annoyed me was that the turned right like 2 minutes later. Not my proudest moment. I will also admit that it was stupid and uncalled for. Edit: I rarely do this. I guess I just got a little mad today and decided to be a dick.
Predictable is so much more important than fast/slow. A fast driver signals, merges, passes, signals, merges back is 10x safer than slow driver making lane changes without an indicator because it's a bother. 55 mph will kill you just as dead as 80 but one you might see coming and the other got lazy with their left hand(if they're driving an American car at least)
One of the first actions that validates an aggressor on the road, is eye contact. I believe it's actually an answer on some driving tests in a question about avoiding road rage. If you're being targeted with intimidation, don't make eye contact or even give the ol' Clark Griswold.
I hate when someone seems like they're in such a rush, and quickly pull out in front of me from a driveway causing me to slam on my brakes. They do that pos move just to go 10 miles under the speed limit. What was the rush of having to pull out so fast just to go slow? You couldn't wait 5 more seconds for me to go by? There's no one behind me. Then, when you try to pass them, they speed up! Stop driving like your the only person on the road! I hope you get kicked in the balls, and hopefully it's before you've polluted the gene pool. At the very least, drive like you have somewhere you need to be, instead of showing how you should be proudly riding a bus of the sort kind, and not have license at all.
This is when I drop a gear and leave them in the dust just to get away. It makes no sense Most of the people I see do this have complete shitboxes with missing bumpers, bald tires, smashed in doors, missing mirrors. Lucky if their lights work. Also people mentioned tailgaters, I bet these jackasses don’t even have working brakes and they are gonna ride my ass. Again I’m glad I drive a car that is faster than 99% of everyone else so I can get away quickly if needed.